Boston proves what we use to do...defense wins championships.

[BadMotorscooter]

Celtics go into Miami and win with defense. A pivotal game 5 on the road. We have become the Phoenix Suns part II and it will be our downfall. Remember when the Suns would win 50+ games a year and we would all laugh because we knew they couldnt win a championship without defense? Well....here we are.....

[honestfool84]

Boston hasn't - and probably won't - win a championship.

[Leetonidas]

Chris Bosh.


/thread

[BadMotorscooter]

Boston hasn't - and probably won't - win a championship.

If Boston makes the Finals....I like their chances alot. Us or the Thunder dont play any defense at all.

[Sean Cagney]

YEP, Spurs are hitting shots and getting back into it but they can't make the key stops anymore.

[Keepin' it real]

They won the championship? Dang, I thought for sure OKC would have beaten them.

[Arcadian]

I don't know about you guys, but Boston winning tonight makes me feel better about the Spurs' situation. It can happen to Miami, it can happen to us...it happens. Both series are not over.

[dunkman]

The C's are a terrific team. They are so poised playing at road, they execute, Rondo gets them all easy baskets, they are clutch, play great defense and seldom panic.

Hopefully the Spurs will play like that in OKC.

[eyeh8u]

I don't know about you guys, but Boston winning tonight makes me feel better about the Spurs' situation. It can happen to Miami, it can happen to us...it happens. Both series are not over.

i feel the same way. if they control the turnovers they could have won each game, and will win in game 6 and 7

[Legacy]

I don't know about you guys, but Boston winning tonight makes me feel better about the Spurs' situation. It can happen to Miami, it can happen to us...it happens. Both series are not over.


:tu

*snickers*

[Richie]

Players like Pietrus and Cook stepping up and hitting 3s have made them big difference makers in the last few days.

In comparison, Green and Neal have consistently missed wide open shots

[Sean Cagney]

I don't know about you guys, but Boston winning tonight makes me feel better about the Spurs' situation. It can happen to Miami, it can happen to us...it happens. Both series are not over.

That is true.


If Boston makes the Finals....I like their chances alot. Us or the Thunder dont play any defense at all.

Thunder for sure are playing better D right now though, not great D but still they get stops. Boston would have a shot though.

[MI21]

If Ginobili makes that 3 at the end, then we may be talking about something similar with the Spurs and there ability to fight back from 13 with 5 minutes left.. Difference with this one was that Pierce splashed it..

[100%duncan]

Yah.

[417]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsDdIByh8A

[417]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsDdIByh8A

[weebo]

big reason the spurs are losing is that our role players are choking while the celts and okc role players are clutching up

[Keepin' it real]

I don't know about you guys, but Boston winning tonight makes me feel better about the Spurs' situation. It can happen to Miami, it can happen to us...it happens. Both series are not over.

I knew someone would say this! I want to understand how/why this makes you feel better. Can you explain?

I could see someone feeling better about the Spurs' situation if Miami had just won game 6 on the road. But I fail to see how another team blowing a home game 5 gives you any solace.

[HI-FI]

big reason the spurs are losing is that our role players are choking while the celts and okc role players are clutching up

true, plus Rondo >>>> Parker

[KDtrey5]

If Boston makes the Finals....I like their chances alot. Us or the Thunder dont play any defense at all.

Thunders don't play defense ahahahha. Thunder was ranked top 5 in defensive team this year in crunch situations. Thabo, Ibaka, Perkins and Collison are the top defensive players on okc. Durant always shits on Pierce when they face each other.

[BadMotorscooter]

Guys....none of the first 3 quarters went over a combined 45....that is defense at its best. It was on a pace after the 3rdQ to only be a 175 total type game.

[dbreiden83080]

OKC has as good an offense as i have ever seen.. Who the hell can stop them from putting up these numbers? Spurs are IMO the only team that can play with them because our offense is so good. Spurs can beat them when they take care of the ball in a high scoring affair. Trying to grind out a win against OKC will not happen for Boston or anyone else. They just have too many weapons..

[dbreiden83080]

If Boston makes the Finals....I like their chances alot. Us or the Thunder dont play any defense at all.

Your nuts.. OKC in 5 at most...

[Brazil]

true, plus Rondo >>>> Parker

true, btw KG >>>>>Duncan

[SpurPadre]

i feel the same way. if they control the turnovers they could have won each game, and will win in game 6 and 7

We only had 10 turnovers in Game 4 and still lost by 6. That's not our only problem.

[BadMotorscooter]

OKC has as good an offense as i have ever seen.. Who the hell can stop them from putting up these numbers? Spurs are IMO the only team that can play with them because our offense is so good. Spurs can beat them when they take care of the ball in a high scoring affair. Trying to grind out a win against OKC will not happen for Boston or anyone else. They just have too many weapons..


And here we go....sound famaliar Spurs fans? I remember Phoenix fans saying the same thing when they were averaging 110+/gm. People said...who can stop that? Its impossible. But our Spurs did with defense. Boston would do the same with the young Thunder.

[SpurPadre]

OKC has as good an offense as i have ever seen.. Who the hell can stop them from putting up these numbers? Spurs are IMO the only team that can play with them because our offense is so good. Spurs can beat them when they take care of the ball in a high scoring affair. Trying to grind out a win against OKC will not happen for Boston or anyone else. They just have too many weapons..

And they keep pulling off crazy shots out of their asses. They can play blindfolded and still hit most of their jumpers.

[BadMotorscooter]

Look I remember Phoenix winning 60 games in a season...Amare averaging 35+/gm in the playoffs on us...Nash tearing it up...Marion...Bell...they had weapons galore. We beat them with defense. Boston is what we use to be. If Boston makes the Finals against the Thunder...I take Boston....easily.

[Keepin' it real]

Look I remember Phoenix winning 60 games in a season...Amare averaging 35+/gm in the playoffs on us...Nash tearing it up...Marion...Bell...they had weapons galore. We beat them with defense. Boston is what we use to be. If Boston makes the Finals against the Thunder...I take Boston....easily.

I agree with this, and when we all thought the Spurs were headed to the Finals, Boston is the only eastern conference team I feared. Their D can beat anyone in a 7-game series.

[KDtrey5]

And here we go....sound famaliar Spurs fans? I remember Phoenix fans saying the same thing when they were averaging 110+/gm. People said...who can stop that? Its impossible. But our Spurs did with defense. Boston would do the same with the young Thunder.

Defensively we are better then boston and offensively we totally outmatched them. Ibaka would shut down brandon bass. Perkins the best low post defender can i think shut down Garnett. Thunders are similar to the Heat but we shot and score better than them. Celtics went seven games against philly and you think they will give okc problems? hahahahahaha :rollin

[BadMotorscooter]

Defensively we are better then boston and offensively we totally outmatched them. Ibaka would shut down brandon bass. Perkins the best low post defender can i think shut down Garnett. Thunders are similar to the Heat but we shot and score better than them. Celtics went seven games against philly and you think they will give okc problems? hahahahahaha :rollin


Defensively...you are better than Boston? Seriously?

[dbreiden83080]

And here we go....sound famaliar Spurs fans? I remember Phoenix fans saying the same thing when they were averaging 110+/gm. People said...who can stop that? Its impossible. But our Spurs did with defense. Boston would do the same with the young Thunder.

No they won't.. Have you watched these playoffs?? Celts need 7 games to get bye the 76ers who have ZERO offensive weapons but they are beating the Thunder with Durant, Westbrook and Harden plus a deep bench..


Lend me some of what you are smoking...

[SA210]

Celtics go into Miami and win with defense. A pivotal game 5 on the road. We have become the Phoenix Suns part II and it will be our downfall. Remember when the Suns would win 50+ games a year and we would all laugh because we knew they couldnt win a championship without defense? Well....here we are.....

Starts at the top, tbh

[BadMotorscooter]

No they won't.. Have you watched these playoffs?? Celts need 7 games to get bye the 76ers who have ZERO offensive weapons but they are beating the Thunder with Durant, Westbrook and Harden plus a deep bench..


Lend me some of what you are smoking...


As much as I want the Spurs in the Finals...I dont see it happening now. It looks like Thunder/Boston...stick around for the Finals and lets see who was right...I got defense...you got offense.

[dbreiden83080]

Look I remember Phoenix winning 60 games in a season...Amare averaging 35+/gm in the playoffs on us...Nash tearing it up...Marion...Bell...they had weapons galore. We beat them with defense. Boston is what we use to be. If Boston makes the Finals against the Thunder...I take Boston....easily.

That was Tim Duncan in his prime and in 2005 so was Manu.. 2007 both were close to prime and Tony didn't suck...

[BadMotorscooter]

That was Tim Duncan in his prime and in 2005 so was Manu.. 2007 both were close to prime and Tony didn't suck...


We'll see soon.

[KDtrey5]

Defensively...you are better than Boston? Seriously?

What happen when thabo sefolosha was switch to parker after game 2?
Why all of sudden spurs are getting 18 turnovers per game?

[PublicOption]

All it proves is the league WILL not put 2 small market teams in the finals.....EVER.

[PublicOption]

What happen when thabo sefolosha was switch to parker after game 2?
Why all of sudden spurs are getting 18 turnovers per game?

we only got 10 in one game and still lost.

[KDtrey5]

we only got 10 in one game and still lost.

so what ever happen to tony parker since thabo sefolosha was swtich on him? I never see him go 16-21 again :lol i wonder why lol

[Man In Black]

As if those 2 big 3's that Pietrus hit on OFFENSE didn't mean anything?

Just 1 guy needs to do that and the Spurs win game 6.

[BatManu20]

:lmao that's a good one
true, btw KG >>>>>Duncan

[SamoanTD]

It's the Eastern Conference they fucking suck.

[crc21209]

I sure hope the Spurs were watching this game, especially Timmy and Tony. I hope they saw that Rondo and KG gutted out a huge win on the road for their team. And yeah I agree that Pietrus stepped up huge for them tonight with some good D and he hit some clutch 3's. SOMEONE, whether it's Green, Neal, or Bonner...just a couple of 3's will help.

[bresilhac]

OKC has as good an offense as i have ever seen.. Who the hell can stop them from putting up these numbers? Spurs are IMO the only team that can play with them because our offense is so good. Spurs can beat them when they take care of the ball in a high scoring affair. Trying to grind out a win against OKC will not happen for Boston or anyone else. They just have too many weapons..

You're right. Additionally, the most devastating of all the facets of OKC's game was their ability to remain poised, confident and effective throughout the late flurry by the Spurs in game 5. This maturity factor by OKC was the downfall of San Antonio in that game. That and that absurd 4-point play by Harden. Anyway, to get into a scoring contest with the likes of the Thunder again would be foolhardy for sure. I agree that the Spurs offense is good enough to win game 6 and the series, but they have got to return to their old defensive ways if they are going to prevail ultimately.

[Paranoid Pop]

true, plus Rondo >>>> Parker


true, btw KG >>>>>Duncan

Rondo and KG are going head to head with Chalmers and Joel Anthony...

[Hooks]

Boston and the rest of the East suck, BAD. Anyone who thinks the Celtics/Heat even have a chance at beating whoever comes out the West is delusional. The only way Miami doesn't get swept against SA/OKC is if they're fully healthy and everybody on their team is playing well.

[Durant 35]

If Boston makes the Finals....I like their chances alot. Us or the Thunder dont play any defense at all.

What? We have been one if the best defensive teams this season.

[Legacy]

Rondo and KG are going head to head with Chalmers and Joel Anthony...


Who?? :huh

You mean there are more than 3 players on TEAM LeBron? :lol

[BadMotorscooter]

What? We have been one if the best defensive teams this season.


Say what? The Thunder were 17th in the league in the regular season in points allowed. In the playoffs, OKC is 10th in points allowed...and thats out of 16 teams.....thats not good defense at all.

[Durant 35]

Say what? The Thunder were 17th in the league in the regular season in points allowed. In the playoffs, OKC is 10th in points allowed...and thats out of 16 teams.....thats not good defense at all.

Anybody who knows basketball knows defense is based off how points you give up. Obviously thunder will give up more due to the pace.

Fact is the thunder were ranked 3rd in opp FG% at 42.7%.. Which Is a far better measurement for defense than PPG ever is

[BadMotorscooter]

Anybody who knows basketball knows defense is based off how points you give up. Obviously thunder will give up more due to the pace.

Fact is the thunder were ranked 3rd in opp FG% at 42.7%.. Which Is a far better measurement for defense than PPG ever is


We can go by your stat requirements...thats fine by me. OKC is 8th out of 16 teams in the playoffs for opponents FG%. Not good at all...and just in case you are wondering the Celtics are #2.

[Durant 35]

We can go by your stat requirements...thats fine by me. OKC is 8th out of 16 teams in the playoffs for opponents FG%. Not good at all...and just in case you are wondering the Celtics are #2.

Never claimed we are better defensively than Boston.We are solid enough in that area and with our offense that's all that matters. When we need stops we get them as these playoffs have shown.

One thing Is for sure we are closer defensively to Boston than they are to us offensively.

[GrandeDavid]

If Boston makes the Finals....I like their chances alot. Us or the Thunder dont play any defense at all.

Hey, we could always throw our unstoppable pick and roll at them! Oh wait...it's figured out! :/

[rr2418]

Pop has many times indicated that the Spurs can't play defense like in years past. Why is this? Besides not having a D-Rob or Bowen, what are the reasons? Were there changes to defensive rules, (e.i. hand checking, zone)?

[DontStopBelieving]

Pop has many times indicated that the Spurs can't play defense like in years past. Why is this? Besides not having a D-Rob or Bowen, what are the reasons? Were there changes to defensive rules, (e.i. hand checking, zone)?

duncan

[BadMotorscooter]

We obviously miss a guy like Bowen but its also the bench players. Robert Horry was tenacious. Remember him knocking Nash into the scorer's table?

[SenorSpur]

The Celtics, as old as they are - much older than the Spurs - are still playing maniacal defense. It's a true testimony to their mental toughness, their heart and their will. They certainly have proven that it can still be done - even at an advanced age.

We all know Duncan, our longtime defensive anchor has declined. However, as I've stated many times, his decline could've been somewhat mitigated had the Spurs brass elected to invest in a young, frontcourt player or two, who could do some of the things Duncan used to do. Having at least one reserve big, who could rebound, block some shots, defend the post and some provide interior scoring depth would gone a long way toward helping Duncan in his advanced age. Blair and Bonner simply proved to be too inadequate to do the job.

What ever happens after this year, I hope this has forced Pop and RC to re-evaluate the makeup of the Spurs frontcourt. Splitter and Diaw are both serviceable. However, the Spurs really need to try and upgrade the roster to enable them to get stops when necessary, while helping them to redefine their defensive identity.

[Legacy]

The Celtics, as old as they are - much older than the Spurs - are still playing maniacal defense. It's a true testimony to their mental toughness, their heart and their will. They certainly have proven that it can still be done - even at an advanced age.

We all know Duncan, our longtime defensive anchor has declined. However, as I've stated many times, his decline could've been somewhat mitigated had the Spurs brass elected to invest in a young, frontcourt player or two, who could do some of the things Duncan used to do. Having at least one reserve big, who could rebound, block some shots, defend the post and some provide interior scoring depth would gone a long way toward helping Duncan in his advanced age. Blair and Bonner simply proved to be too inadequate to do the job.

What ever happens after this year, I hope this has forced Pop and RC to re-evaluate the makeup of the Spurs frontcourt. Splitter and Diaw are both serviceable. However, the Spurs really need to try and upgrade the roster to enable them to get stops when necessary, while helping them to redefine their defensive identity.


Beautifully worded again, SenorSpur. :toast