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Fabbs
06-06-2012, 10:52 PM
and pulled and given some sideline camera show drama *doghouse* dressing down by Koach Pockface. For one foul on Kobe Durant, a questionable one at that.

Spurs interior D is Swiss cheese the rest of the way.

Can we post the timvp quote early in the season words to the effect that "unless Poppycock gets the Duncan-Splitter tandem going so they are ready for the playoffs we have no chance"?

therealtruth
06-06-2012, 11:48 PM
and pulled and given some sideline camera show drama *doghouse* dressing down by Koach Pockface. For one foul on Kobe Durant, a questionable one at that.

Spurs interior D is Swiss cheese the rest of the way.

Can we post the timvp quote early in the season words to the effect that "unless Poppycock gets the Duncan-Splitter tandem going so they are ready for the playoffs we have no chance"?

Pop's refusal to develop that combo has put more pressure on Tim and weakened our interior defense.

dg7md
06-06-2012, 11:57 PM
:lmao Splitter was given a minute too much in the game.

BatManu20
06-07-2012, 12:13 AM
It was one minute too long.

SanAntonioSpurs23
06-07-2012, 12:22 AM
He sucks

SpursFaninMS
06-07-2012, 12:25 AM
The Splitter love affair just will not end. Even playing like absolute shit in the playoffs won't do it.

He is just NOT THAT GOOD.

Juggity
06-07-2012, 12:29 AM
We have Splitter to protect ourselves against big teams like Memphis, LA. This wasn't really his series.

SA210
06-07-2012, 12:32 AM
Pops way of trying to show fans that Splitter sucks, but he actually doesn't.

jag
06-07-2012, 12:41 AM
Pop's refusal to develop that combo has put more pressure on Tim and weakened our interior defense.

boom

Doe
06-07-2012, 12:42 AM
Splitter sucked balls, for once I'm glad Pop went away from him.

TDMVPDPOY
06-07-2012, 12:50 AM
hiim gettin plucked

was like bonner gettin plucked in game 5....and he went and barked back at pop when he pulled of for the sub

Cow Eye
06-07-2012, 12:51 AM
I hate to say it, but Splitter sucks. I was hoping so much that it was just because he wasn't getting much play time, but nope. He sucks. Fuck the euro-league. Any league that has Splitter as MVP sucks.

silverblk mystix
06-07-2012, 01:03 AM
and pulled and given some sideline camera show drama *doghouse* dressing down by Koach Pockface. For one foul on Kobe Durant, a questionable one at that.

Spurs interior D is Swiss cheese the rest of the way.

Can we post the timvp quote early in the season words to the effect that "unless Poppycock gets the Duncan-Splitter tandem going so they are ready for the playoffs we have no chance"?

Not only that --if you were paying attention--

DIAW fucked up way more times than that and Pop didn't say shit.

Tiago was trying to double up on Durant and just held his hands straight up (no fucking different than Bonner did all fuckin season long) and Pop goes into drama-bitch mode....


FUCK POP.


Hope Splitter leaves the fucking team and shows his worth elsewhere.

Good call, Fabbs.

LASToog36
06-07-2012, 11:08 AM
splitter sucks he plays like a pussy... and when he messes up just has that stupid smirk... away from these euro soft style pussy bigs.... we need some american muscle...player of the series to me goes to kawhi he showed heart and hes a rookie hes only gonna get better hell be the new durant stopper

temujin
06-07-2012, 11:10 AM
splitter sucks he plays like a pussy... and when he messes up just has that stupid smirk... away from these euro soft style pussy bigs.... we need some american muscle...player of the series to me goes to kawhi he showed heart and hes a rookie hes only gonna get better hell be the new durant stopper

Yeah, Serge Ibaka!

100%duncan
06-07-2012, 11:13 AM
Stupid Pop.

Jumi
06-07-2012, 11:16 AM
We need a freakishly atheletic black guy! Someone get JaVale McGee's agent on the phone! We can fix, "stupid!" You can't coach hustle!!

DMC
06-07-2012, 11:18 AM
You guys need to be weened off the Splitter tit. He's not the answer. He's soft, awkward and, other than the pick and roll, has bad fundamentals (especially on defense, guarding with his face instead of his hands) but hey, at least he's not trying to take charges instead of defending the rim.

rascal
06-07-2012, 11:35 AM
Splitter was a liability in that he lost confidence and couldn't even hit free throws. Pop lost confidence in him.

rascal
06-07-2012, 11:39 AM
I hate to say it, but Splitter sucks. I was hoping so much that it was just because he wasn't getting much play time, but nope. He sucks. Fuck the euro-league. Any league that has Splitter as MVP sucks.

Agree. He is soft, awkward, losses confidence easily, gets outboxed by stronger smaller players, can't jump to block shots and is injury prone. Counting on this guy for the big frontline upgrade was a failure.

Dr. John R. Brinkley
06-07-2012, 11:39 AM
I'm not sure if Tiago was going to help in this series. That said, Pop made Tiago look bad. Who knows what their relationship is really like since as fans we only see a limited perspective, but damn, there doesn't seem like a bright future for Tiago on this team. I haven't seen Pop blow a gasket like that in a long time, and nothing like this particular situation.

Twisted_Dawg
06-07-2012, 12:09 PM
We need a freakishly atheletic black guy! Someone get JaVale McGee's agent on the phone! We can fix, "stupid!" You can't coach hustle!!

A couple of my buddies are hoping we can sign him. Tim will need to take a paycut and it will take a leap of faith and money on the part of the Spurs.

Twisted_Dawg
06-07-2012, 12:11 PM
And Pop just diminished what ever trade value Shitter had.

tesseractive
06-07-2012, 12:13 PM
And Pop just diminished what ever trade value Shitter had.

If only we had concentrated less on winning the game and more on showcasing players for their trade value. :rolleyes

Twisted_Dawg
06-07-2012, 12:16 PM
If only we had concentrated less on winning the game and more on showcasing players for their trade value. :rolleyes

Showcasing and humiliating a player with a public tongue lashing for fouling a player are two different things.

tesseractive
06-07-2012, 12:23 PM
Showcasing and humiliating a player with a public tongue lashing for fouling a player are two different things.

Pop will do that to any player, any game. What's so special about the waxed brazilian that he shouldn't get criticized?

BRs.Ganso
06-07-2012, 12:53 PM
Pop burned Splitter with fans

Tiago missed two years of his career ''Playing Rookie Game'' with Greg Popovich, c'mon the guy plays basketball in europe since 2000 when he was 15 years old... he eat bench for players like old McDyess, Matt Bonner and Blair... and for worse, Spurs coaches changed his free throw shot style, we was 67% FT shooter in europe, now a 50%, well done! the psychological of Splitter must be a total waste. Should be traded to a team where he can improves his game with quality, if not, back to europe.

Fabbs
06-07-2012, 12:58 PM
Pop will do that to any player, any game. What's so special about the waxed brazilian that he shouldn't get criticized?
bull and shit.
When has he dressed down Bonner in 4 years of YMCA defense?
Neal had a complete defensive blow on phaggot Fisher for a crucial trey. Common NBA knowledge all Swisher can do is catch n shoot and yet the mental fart D continues....

GrandeDavid
06-07-2012, 12:59 PM
Pop burned Splitter with fans

Tiago missed two years of his career ''Playing Rookie Game'' with Greg Popovich, c'mon the guy plays basketball in europe since 2000 when he was 15 years old... he eat bench for players like old McDyess, Matt Bonner and Blair... and for worse, Spurs coaches changed his free throw shot style, we was 67% FT shooter in europe, now a 50%, well done! the psychological of Splitter must be a total waste. Should be traded to a team where he can improves his game with quality, if not, back to europe.

Concordo plenamente. Popovich foi bosta nesta seria e tem sido péssimo desenvolvendo Tiago. Espero que Tiago pode jogar num time que o valoriza mais!

dylankerouac
06-07-2012, 01:00 PM
If we had used Splitter during the season we could have tried to counter the Thunder small ball with our own version of tall ball. I don't know if it would have worked but it would have been another option and I'm sure Tim would have enjoyed the help of a seven footer. It is too bad this option wasn't available since Pop did not build any reliable chemistry between these two during the season.

hater
06-07-2012, 01:01 PM
Pop was on a panic mode. Pathetic.

If anyone should retire, it should be him. Get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat anymore.

BRs.Ganso
06-07-2012, 01:02 PM
Concordo plenamente. Popovich foi bosta nesta seria e tem sido péssimo desenvolvendo Tiago. Espero que Tiago pode jogar num time que o valoriza mais!

E ai amigo, tudo certo? participe do forum DraftBrasil, la tbm discutimos assuntos como esses.. abraços.

elbamba
06-07-2012, 01:05 PM
Spurs are starting to get defensive pieces to add to the equation. It makes sense to play Duncan and splitter together

Jumi
06-07-2012, 01:07 PM
Pop was on a panic mode. Pathetic.

If anyone should retire, it should be him. Get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat anymore.
Yeah Pop is starting to piss me off. He didn't get in Diaw's ass for always passing the open shots, the dumbass rotations in this series, no Duncan and Splitter except after the Lakers ass kicking, not even trying out Mills earlier in the playoffs when we all knew Neal couldn't handle the ball, his Bonner Boner, playing Blair at center for two gottdamn years, resigning RJ! Duncan's becoming more legendary as I type this shit!!!

tesseractive
06-07-2012, 01:08 PM
When has he dressed down Bonner in 4 years of YMCA defense?

On defense, Bonner's ceiling is so low that he has to crouch down to fit under it. It's not that he misses rotations or make dumb plays, it's that playing any better than he does is completely beyond him given his physical tools.

You rip guys apart for failing to do things they're supposed to, not for failing to do things they're incapable of.

PingPong
06-07-2012, 01:09 PM
Pop is a intelectually limited coach wich destroy the sel-esteem and intimidate his players. That military-alike "obey my strategy and shut up" doesn't work when you have talented players on the other side of the court. That's what happened in the Spurs-OKC series. Not only Splitter was lacking confidence, but almost the whole team. A good coach should know how to use psychology, not only barking like a cornered dog.

SenorSpur
06-07-2012, 01:10 PM
splitter sucks he plays like a pussy... and when he messes up just has that stupid smirk... away from these euro soft style pussy bigs.... we need some american muscle...


Now that's what I'm talking about. Enough with the soft Euro philosophy. Assuming the Spurs are not able to move up into the 1st round, there are a couple of potential young bigs that will be available in the second round.

Henry Sims - Georgetown
Robert Sacre - Gonzaga
Jonas Bergstedt - Denmark
Kyle O'Quinn - Norfolk St.
Bernard James - Florida St.

As far as I'm concerned, any of these would be better options that another Euro. Lorbek can continue to incubate over in Europe, for all I care.

Jumi
06-07-2012, 01:10 PM
But at least he should hit the three! Neal almost gets a pass sometimes for his defense because his offensive game is top notch. Bonner stinks up the joint!

SenorSpur
06-07-2012, 01:11 PM
On defense, Bonner's ceiling is so low that he has to crouch down to fit under it. It's not that he misses rotations or make dumb plays, it's that playing any better than he does is completely beyond him given his physical tools.

You rip guys apart for failing to do things they're supposed to, not for failing to do things they're incapable of.

As I've said before, the problem with Bonner is that he's on the roster in the first place - and has been for 4 years longer than he should've been.

Beaverfuzz
06-07-2012, 01:13 PM
Spurs need a quality inside big man, Splitter is not that guy especially on defense or lack thereof.

tesseractive
06-07-2012, 01:18 PM
As I've said before, the problem with Bonner is that he's on the roster in the first place - and has been for 4 years longer than he should've been.

I've been a Bonner apologist in the past on the theory that he's not a bad guy to have around as your 4th or 5th best big man. I'm officially done with that, and furthermore I apologize for having been so wrong.

Trade, amnesty, run over the guy with a bus. Whatever it takes to get him off the team.

dbreiden83080
06-07-2012, 01:42 PM
He sucked hard from game 3 on.. One min and one blown rotation was enough for Pop to say

"Sit the fuck down"...

Rummpd
06-07-2012, 01:56 PM
Pop was on a panic mode. Pathetic.

If anyone should retire, it should be him. Get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat anymore.

This if the Spurs had gotten beat playing what led them to 20 wins so be it but letting the other team totally dictate your game was inane.

Spurs da champs
06-07-2012, 01:58 PM
I think splitter can be traded for the pacers for a first round pick. They need a backup center and we need a legit american big.

SpursFaninMS
06-07-2012, 01:59 PM
Now that's what I'm talking about. Enough with the soft Euro philosophy. Assuming the Spurs are not able to move up into the 1st round, there are a couple of potential young bigs that will be available in the second round.

Henry Sims - Georgetown
Robert Sacre - Gonzaga
Jonas Bergstedt - Denmark
Kyle O'Quinn - Norfolk St.
Bernard James - Florida St.

As far as I'm concerned, any of these would be better options that another Euro. Lorbek can continue to incubate over in Europe, for all I care.


I like Sacre a lot.

silverblk mystix
06-07-2012, 03:10 PM
I've been a Bonner apologist in the past on the theory that he's not a bad guy to have around as your 4th or 5th best big man. I'm officially done with that, and furthermore I apologize for having been so wrong.

Trade, amnesty, run over the guy with a bus. Whatever it takes to get him off the team.



Well, I am getting old and I have pretty much seen it all. A couple of years ago I actually got comfortable with the fact that I probably would not be witnessing too many more miracles before my last breath.

Seeing someone actually admit he was wrong and apologizing here on Spurstalk - home of the experts- is a gift. Thanks.

I can die happy now.

Josepatches_
06-07-2012, 03:14 PM
Splitter is much better than most of those muscle guys. He played well enough this season.

He could help a lot the team.He should be the starting center along Duncan but he's not going to play here big minutes while Pop is teh coach. Hope we trade him. He doesn't deserve this shit

It's a big mistake but Pop is Pop. He's not perfect but he's the coach.

SpurOutofTownFan
06-07-2012, 03:45 PM
The Spurs's FO has definitely some mental issues. The problem with the "infamous" Duncan-would-be-helper that never materialized is a big part of the reason why the Spurs haven't won anything since 2007. Each year, the problem, for some reason doesn't get addressed like it should be.

Rummpd
06-07-2012, 04:00 PM
Face it is BS that Splitter did not play at least some minutes with Duncan resting and Manu on the court with him. To be fair he played more than Bonner I believe as impossible as that sounds. How can a team so change core lineups after winning 2 games in a series? Answer is on Pop alone.

therealtruth
06-07-2012, 04:53 PM
I've been a Bonner apologist in the past on the theory that he's not a bad guy to have around as your 4th or 5th best big man. I'm officially done with that, and furthermore I apologize for having been so wrong.

Trade, amnesty, run over the guy with a bus. Whatever it takes to get him off the team.

The problem with Bonner is he took away minutes that could have been used to develop Splitter. Also it's not like Splitter forgot how to play since the Clippers series. It's Pop who went back to Bonner as third big and his other panic moves that messed things up.

therealtruth
06-07-2012, 04:58 PM
Spurs need a quality inside big man, Splitter is not that guy especially on defense or lack thereof.


Splitter is much better than most of those muscle guys. He played well enough this season.

He could help a lot the team.He should be the starting center along Duncan but he's not going to play here big minutes while Pop is teh coach. Hope we trade him. He doesn't deserve this shit

It's a big mistake but Pop is Pop. He's not perfect but he's the coach.


I agree. But seeing as quality big men don't grow on trees I am surprised the Spurs didn't work to develop Splitter. When he was at his best prior to his injury he was pretty darn good. He was blocking shots and you could run offense out of him on the block. Pop reduced him to a pick and roll player with Manu because he didn't like Splitter making him look like an idiot for not playing him last year.

dunkman
06-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Splitter was unable to catch a pass in the paint, always got the ball pocked by the 'Homa bigs.

ChumpDumper
06-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Splitter could pass out of the block but couldn't score from there.

lol flip shot

Slippy
06-07-2012, 08:12 PM
When Splitter passed out of the keyway, he usually had 1 guy guarding him and 2 others collapsing on him.

Go figure. Many here saying he sucks but he still drew a lot of attention from the opposition and managed to make that pass out. Not many bigs have that ability.

Out of all the reserves he had the shortest leash. IN the play-offs it even got shorter. Sure, Pop gave him dressing down but i see it as a positive. If Pop doesn't think you can learn, he wont bother screaming at you. The fact that he was initially looking to put Splitter out there in the melting pot of WC finals, shows he thinks Splitter has the ability. It more about making it happen on the court.

The guy needs an increase in mins on a consitent basis in order to develop his NBA game and chemsitry with his teammates. It's an adjustment period the spurs have to allow if they want to see Splitter's true value.

BackHome
06-07-2012, 10:48 PM
To be honest Pop should have been yelling at himself cause he fucked up with his subs and calling out a player like that was sad.

Wild Cobra Kai
06-07-2012, 10:55 PM
It was one minute too long.


He sucks

Wild Cobra Kai
06-07-2012, 11:02 PM
Splitter turned into a big man version of Danny Green this series. The only thing more ridiculous than those who thought he would have made a difference last year are those who thought more minutes this year would have been a playoff positive for us. Some players just come up small in the playoffs.

Wild Cobra Kai
06-07-2012, 11:06 PM
When Splitter passed out of the keyway, he usually had 1 guy guarding him and 2 others collapsing on him.



They probably offered a bounty on the first one to foul him. He kept frustrating them by dropping perfect passes.

rmt
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
After watching all the stupid, useless, lacking in skill bigs this playoffs like Denver's, LAC's Jordan, don't know what Pop wants from Splitter. I'm happy with him - at least he's got smarts, some skill and tries hard. He's not the toughest guy but hey, even the best centers like Howard and Bynum have their issues.

I wouldn't blame him if he left SAS after Pop's poor development/benching of him for the likes of trash like choker Bonner and undersized Blair. Don't know what some of you posters want - wake up and take a good look at the lack of quality big men out there and be happy that there's someone to turn to when matched up against LAL and MEM.

Pop went way overboard yelling at Splitter so for one mistake - lots of the players didn't play well including Duncan who hesitated on so many shots.

tesseractive
06-07-2012, 11:25 PM
After watching all the stupid, useless, lacking in skill bigs this playoffs like Denver's, LAC's Jordan, don't know what Pop wants from Splitter.

Better help defense? Rebounds? Shot blocking? A jump shot? Post moves?

A least one or two of those?

Spurs9
06-07-2012, 11:28 PM
We need someone like Hibbert.

ViceCity86
06-07-2012, 11:30 PM
Splitter sucks

How many times does Sequspur have to tell you guys.

BackHome
06-08-2012, 12:57 AM
If you call out Splitter then call out Bonner, Green, Neal, Tony, Pop, Diaw, cause all of them left their nuts in San Antonio for Game SIX>..............

Slippy
06-08-2012, 04:08 AM
Better help defense? Rebounds? Shot blocking? A jump shot? Post moves?

A least one or two of those?

If you go by Pop reactions in game 6, the timing of them - the only aspect that mattered to coach was Splitter's help defense.

Now go see how much Diaw, Bonner and Blair offered that whole series. Splitter was the guy to be made an example of with a lot shorter leash.

007nites
06-08-2012, 06:56 AM
I like Sacre a lot.

He sucks. I played against him in high school here at Vancouver. He was a terrible rebounder for senior and for his size in college. He has small hands and doesn't really have too many post moves that he could use when he has his back to the basket. He's like another Splitter in the making.

Gagnrath
06-08-2012, 09:35 AM
Splitter Doesn't Suck. He's also not the full and complete answer to the spurs big problem. He's a fairly fast center, but he doesn't have the speed to guard many power forwards, some but not all. He is also not explosively athletic. For some reason he also seems to be vulnerable to getting bodied up by bigger players. For the twin towers Ideal to work a few things have to happen. At least one of those players has to be able to reliably hit a 12 to 15 foot jumper and its better to 18. The other one has to be able to reliably post up against the other teams center.

Splitter's jumpshot isn't there and low post work leaves a bit to be deisred. He's working on them and needs to add 15 lbs of muscle which will probably slow him a bit. Right now he's being groomed to be Duncans replacement at center in 2 years for a 5 to 7 year window. He's expected to be at about the level Tim is at now for that time, which would be quality starter and borderline all star. An athletic power-forward is still needed.

Blair isn't apparently the dedicated hardworking smart guy the spurs thought when they drafted him. He's got a place in the NBA the place just isn't with the spurs at the moment he will be kept until Diaw is resigned as insurance then shopped and shopped hard.

Diaw honestly isn't made to be the starter for a contending team at power forward especially at this time. He's more than skilled enough, but he doesn't really have the mindset for it. He's a a great guy to have as your third big though as he can chameleon as an inside guy, and as a stretch 4. He's got good handles for a back to the basket game and can pass out of a double team. He even sets good screens. He's not exactly a defensive stalwart though he's competent, and he's not the worlds greatest rebounder due to being a bit undersized.

This brings back what the spurs really need. An athletic big man, with legit size and strength, raw as can be is ok right now as if he's in with Duncan he's not expected to do allot on offense just block out, play hard defense and rebound. He gets put backs and dump offs when wide open off of a rotation due to drives off of a pick and role. He's essentially what Blair should have been if he developed like people hoped he would and was 2 to 4 inches taller. With Boris in this acquisition slids over to center and is expected to rebound play defense and get dunks from interior passes, drives and put backs, or Splitter goes in and continues to develop at center provided Slitter can get the 15' jumper down over the summer.

Balance
06-08-2012, 09:49 AM
Is there any other report saying that Pop looooves Splitter?

http://colunistas.ig.com.br/fabiosormani/2012/06/08/popovich-diz-a-splitter-i-love-you-jogador-diz-que-esta-tudo-bem-entre-eles/ (in Portuguese)
Splitter's agent Marcelo Maffia says it's all a misunderstanding. Splitter couldn't hear Pop's instructions because of all the noise in the arena.
They had a meeting the next morning, Pop thanked everybody, said he was proud of the team and said "I love you" to Tiago many times.

Blake
06-08-2012, 11:13 AM
Seeing someone actually admit he was wrong and apologizing here on Spurstalk - home of the experts- is a gift. Thanks.

I can die happy now.

Na, you were wrong regarding Pop's moves and won't admit it.

You'll still die a miserable Pop hating prison guard.

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 11:25 AM
Na, you were wrong regarding Pop's moves and won't admit it.

You'll still die a miserable Pop hating prison guard.

Was I wrong when I said that a team with Matt Bonner in the rotation is not a championship team?


Was I wrong that Pop is the biggest obstacle to the Spurs winning a title?
(lol using a 10-11 man rotation and winning 20 games in a row---and then abandoning it after 2 losses.)

You really wanna get destroyed in yet another thread Blake?


Answers:

no

no

yes


:lmao

Blake
06-08-2012, 11:34 AM
Was I wrong when I said that a team with Matt Bonner in the rotation is not a championship team?

Did anyone say you were wrong about that?



Was I wrong that Pop is the biggest obstacle to the Spurs winning a title?
(lol using a 10-11 man rotation and winning 20 games in a row---and then abandoning it after 2 losses.)

Rofl, what a miserable Pop hater.

Yes, you are wrong.


You really wanna get destroyed in yet another thread Blake?

What thread have I ever been destroyed in, Mustang Sally?


:lmao

:lmao :lmao

IwantSomeNsty
06-08-2012, 11:40 AM
pop is a dumbass

jjktkk
06-08-2012, 12:41 PM
Was I wrong when I said that a team with Matt Bonner in the rotation is not a championship team?

I'm working on your award metal as I write this, so stay tuned.





Was I wrong that Pop is the biggest obstacle to the Spurs winning a title?

Yes, but given your lack of knowledge, in regards to basketball, I don't hold it against you.


(
lol using a 10-11 man rotation and winning 20 games in a row---and then abandoning it after 2 losses.)

Again, your lack of basketball knowledge is creeping thru. Most all NBA coaches shorten their rotations in the playoffs. This has been going on for some time now. With Bonner, Green, and Splitter struggling in the OKC series, it makes sense to shorten the rotation. Have you ever heard of the word "sense"?[/QUOTE]

Spurs da champs
06-08-2012, 12:50 PM
^ You'd be lying if you said Pop didn't go full out panic mode, he should have given that 10 man rotation another shot at home, considering role players especially young ones play better at home, who knows maybe game 7 would happen today as a result.

jjktkk
06-08-2012, 01:13 PM
Was I wrong when I said that a team with Matt Bonner in the rotation is not a championship team?


Was I wrong that Pop is the biggest obstacle to the Spurs winning a title?
(lol using a 10-11 man rotation and winning 20 games in a row---and then abandoning it after 2 losses.)

You really wanna get destroyed in yet another thread Blake?


Answers:

no

no

yes


:lmao


^ You'd be lying if you said Pop didn't go full out panic mode, he should have given that 10 man rotation another shot at home, considering role players especially young ones play better at home, who knows maybe game 7 would happen today as a result.

Panic mode? Calling it "Panic mode", is over exaggerating it imo. If a player is underperforming, especially in the playoffs, do you try to ride it out, hoping the player comes around, or do you bench said player, hoping that his replacement can provide a spark? In the playoffs, you don't have alot of time, hoping a role player performs at a high level. You move onto the next guy and hope he can perform.

Spurs da champs
06-08-2012, 01:18 PM
Panic mode? Calling it "Panic mode", is over exaggerating it imo. If a player is underperforming, especially in the playoffs, do you try to ride it out, hoping the player comes around, or do you bench said player, hoping that his replacement can provide a spark? In the playoffs, you don't have alot of time, hoping a role player performs at a high level. You move onto the next guy and hope he can perform.

Well Green was shit in the 2 home wins & he still played him, if he was going to bench him he should have done it sooner & yes it was panic mode by starting Manu.
The smart move would have been to bench Green in game 4 & start Jax.

jjktkk
06-08-2012, 01:35 PM
Well Green was shit in the 2 home wins & he still played him, if he was going to bench him he should have done it sooner & yes it was panic mode by starting Manu.
The smart move would have been to bench Green in game 4 & start Jax.

It seems, the term panic mode is something we disagree on, as far as the definition.

dylankerouac
06-08-2012, 02:26 PM
If Diaw is kept next year and stays in the starting lineup than I hope that Splitter works on improving his back to the basket game. I am not sure his free throw percentage is going to decrease or increase by much but it would be great if he could be relied on to create his own offense with his back to the basket.

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 02:52 PM
lol Popsuckers starting to come out of their holes again...

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 02:53 PM
...by next season ...all will be forgiven and they will begin the;

"Bonner is a good regular season player who fills a valuable role-blah-blah...slurp-slurp"

:lmao

Blake
06-08-2012, 03:02 PM
lol Popsuckers starting to come out of their holes again...

I haven't seen anyone making fun of you hating Pop also sucking Pop. You haven't either.

It's your disingenuousness talking.

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 03:18 PM
I haven't seen anyone making fun of you hating Pop also sucking Pop. You haven't either.

It's your disingenuousness talking.

That is the frustration with this coach.

He can be a great coach at times.
He does choke in the playoffs, too. Hmmm...this could be one reason he loves Bon-Bon so much.

What's your reason?

Don't label it disingenuosness-just call it for what it is;

Fact.

Blake
06-08-2012, 03:29 PM
Don't label it disingenuosness-just call it for what it is;

Fact.

Not it; you. I'm labeling you as disingenuous because that's what you are.

Fact.

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 03:41 PM
Not it; you. I'm labeling you as disingenuous because that's what you are.

Fact.

I'm not surprised.

Once you place a label on a person-understanding has stopped. You are unable to see because you only see through your label-not the reality.

Shame.

Blake
06-08-2012, 03:53 PM
I'm not surprised.

Once you place a label on a person-understanding has stopped. You are unable to see because you only see through your label-not the reality.

Shame.

what a bunch of disingenuous, ass talking bull shit.


You're an idiot. :lol

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 03:56 PM
what a bunch of disingenuous, ass talking bull shit.


You're also an idiot. :lol

Every label you add just increases your level of blindness until you are completely blind.

Who would want to argue with someone who is blinded by hate,prejudice & bigotry?

Clear your perceptions Blakey.

therealtruth
06-08-2012, 04:27 PM
^ You'd be lying if you said Pop didn't go full out panic mode, he should have given that 10 man rotation another shot at home, considering role players especially young ones play better at home, who knows maybe game 7 would happen today as a result.

This. At least Green was trying on defense. When Pop decided to bench him the Spurs defense got worse. Pop simly got outcoached. He never made a successful counter to what OKC did. Sometimes just throwing different looks on defense is enough to win a game.

Blake
06-08-2012, 04:40 PM
Every label you add just increases your level of blindness until you are completely blind.

Who would want to argue with someone who is blinded by hate,prejudice & bigotry?

Clear your perceptions Blakey.

I label a turd a turd because it smells and looks exactly like shit and evidence suggests that it has been dropped out of an ass.

You're just too disingenuous or stupid to recognize you are standing in a huge pile of it.

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 06:14 PM
I label a turd a turd because it smells and looks exactly like shit and evidence suggests that it has been dropped out of an ass.

You're just too disingenuous or stupid to recognize you are standing in a huge pile of it.

You place labels on everything you see it is no surprise then that you can only see shit.

Sad.

Fabbs
06-08-2012, 06:27 PM
Splitter sucks.
.638 field goal % in playoffs
2.8 rebounds in 13 mpg. (How's that stack up per minute to the other *bigs*?)

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 06:41 PM
You place labels on everything you see it is no surprise then that you can only see shit.

Sad.

...however, this could explain why you looked at Bonner and saw an NBA player and looked at Pop and saw a coach who could still be good enough to lead his team to a title without choking again.

Just sayin'

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 06:46 PM
.638 field goal % in playoffs
2.8 rebounds in 13 mpg. (How's that stack up per minute to the other *bigs*?)

...and in the last quarter of the last game of the season when Duncan needed a break...Pop puts Diaw with 4 smalls and wondered why the defense went further in the toilet...

Pop couldn't use Splitter who had successfully relieved Duncan all season because he was blinded by his little tantrum.

Fast forward to the last 3 minutes of the game and Pop wouldn't call a timeout to try and get his team composed to pull out a victory-because Pop himself had already lost all composure.

Watch the game again and see for yourself-if you care to see truth.

rascal
06-08-2012, 06:50 PM
...and in the last quarter of the last game of the season when Duncan needed a break...Pop puts Diaw with 4 smalls and wondered why the defense went further in the toilet...

Pop couldn't use Splitter who had successfully relieved Duncan all season because he was blinded by his little tantrum.

Fast forward to the last 3 minutes of the game and Pop wouldn't call a timeout to try and get his team composed to pull out a victory-because Pop himself had already lost all composure.

Watch the game again and see for yourself-if you care to see truth.


Just can't play Splitter down the stretch in a close game with his terrible free throw shooting.

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 06:55 PM
Just can't play Splitter down the stretch in a close game with his terrible free throw shooting.

Well, yes you can because his 50% ft's would not be as bad as getting killed by playing with 4 smalls. You might only get 1 point on a trip down the court but you wont give up 2 or 3 every freakin trip on the other end.

Also this was actually kind of a poetic justice on Pop because he is the main culprit of the hack-a-whatever.

The earlier point I was trying to make was that Splitter would have only played in the very early 4th qtr--just to give Duncan a break so Duncan could finish strong-but Pop went with Diaw and 4 smalls.

Jumi
06-08-2012, 06:56 PM
Just can't play Splitter down the stretch in a close game with his terrible free throw shooting.
Bullshit! If the choice is bad free throws or bad defense, you take the free throws. At least the clock stops and Duncan catches a quick breather! Diaw can't play defense with four guards, hell he barely does well with Duncan!

silverblk mystix
06-08-2012, 06:58 PM
Bullshit! If the choice is bad free throws or bad defense, you take the free throws. At least the clock stops and Duncan catches a quick breather! Diaw can't play defense with four guards, hell he barely does well with Duncan!

Glad to see someone else was paying attention, otherwise the Popsuckers will absolve Pop again.

DieHardSpursFan1537
06-08-2012, 06:59 PM
Pop sure was pissed at him...not playing aggressive enough it appears or Pop is just a moron.

Wild Cobra Kai
06-08-2012, 08:50 PM
Is there any other report saying that Pop looooves Splitter?

http://colunistas.ig.com.br/fabiosormani/2012/06/08/popovich-diz-a-splitter-i-love-you-jogador-diz-que-esta-tudo-bem-entre-eles/ (in Portuguese)
Splitter's agent Marcelo Maffia says it's all a misunderstanding. Splitter couldn't hear Pop's instructions because of all the noise in the arena.
They had a meeting the next morning, Pop thanked everybody, said he was proud of the team and said "I love you" to Tiago many times.

If you need to "hear Pop's instructions", then you have no understanding of the Spurs defense. This was the 80th game of the year, and he didn't fucking know where to be? GMAFB. I'm sure they went over various scenarios where a double would be required, and Durant on the block was one of them. Tiago is just an airhead.

dylankerouac
06-09-2012, 12:09 AM
Our team just had too many young pieces to rely on. This thunder squad has been pushing in the playoffs with a good run starting two years ago. Plus last year they got to the WCF, their experience was building game by the game.

We had too many young pieces that Pop did or could not rely on. With this unreliance came the consequence of proper adjustments being unable to be made. Come to think of it, when was the last time Pop made an adjustment? I think it was choosing to start Tiago against the Lakers, other than that he chose to fold if it got tough and we had some great shooting most of the time. Unfortunately the Spurs were never in need of making adjustments and when we finally did in game four it was still a heartbreaker loss.

Our young guys need more experience in the same way the thunder did. Another big to make them pay in some way and relieve pressure off Tim should be a priority.

Slippy
06-09-2012, 12:49 AM
If you need to "hear Pop's instructions", then you have no understanding of the Spurs defense. This was the 80th game of the year, and he didn't fucking know where to be? GMAFB. I'm sure they went over various scenarios where a double would be required, and Durant on the block was one of them. Tiago is just an airhead.

You must of missed Pop screaming at Kawai to double on Durant in an earlier game. He looked a lot more confused than Splitter and pretty much ran past him going for the steal. Durant scored with the bonus on that play. It just seemed a lot of Spurs were confused with "when to apply the double on Durant" play through-out the whole series.

Now i dont think Kawai is a airhead and he didn't see the doghouse after. Maybe it's on POP for not being any clearer or getting it all sorted during training.

Double standards really.

Spurs da champs
06-09-2012, 12:51 AM
Leonard is a better player then Splitter, much better, get it?

Splitter failed to post up Fisher, he's garbo!

therealtruth
06-09-2012, 12:51 AM
Our team just had too many young pieces to rely on. This thunder squad has been pushing in the playoffs with a good run starting two years ago. Plus last year they got to the WCF, their experience was building game by the game.

We had too many young pieces that Pop did or could not rely on. With this unreliance came the consequence of proper adjustments being unable to be made. Come to think of it, when was the last time Pop made an adjustment? I think it was choosing to start Tiago against the Lakers, other than that he chose to fold if it got tough and we had some great shooting most of the time. Unfortunately the Spurs were never in need of making adjustments and when we finally did in game four it was still a heartbreaker loss.

Our young guys need more experience in the same way the thunder did. Another big to make them pay in some way and relieve pressure off Tim should be a priority.

Another big? Pop could have done more to develop Splitter rather than wasting minutes on Blair and Bonner. Splitter was playing his best before he got injured then after that Pop started messing with his minutes. As a result Splitter never approached his best level of play again.

Slippy
06-09-2012, 12:58 AM
Our team just had too many young pieces to rely on. This thunder squad has been pushing in the playoffs with a good run starting two years ago. Plus last year they got to the WCF, their experience was building game by the game.

We had too many young pieces that Pop did or could not rely on. With this unreliance came the consequence of proper adjustments being unable to be made. Come to think of it, when was the last time Pop made an adjustment? I think it was choosing to start Tiago against the Lakers, other than that he chose to fold if it got tough and we had some great shooting most of the time. Unfortunately the Spurs were never in need of making adjustments and when we finally did in game four it was still a heartbreaker loss.

Our young guys need more experience in the same way the thunder did. Another big to make them pay in some way and relieve pressure off Tim should be a priority.

great post. This is what the regular season is for. Not saying it replicates play-off experience which OKC had but youngsters gotta learn the hard way. That means being able to make mistakes. When they were winning and POP felt he didn't mind losing a game or two would of been a good time to start.

Everyone was screaming for it during the season. I gave up on it when it became clear Pop only saw Tiago as a back-up for Tim.

dylankerouac
06-09-2012, 01:11 AM
I agree brother (therealtruth), Pop could have done a lot more to develop Splitter. He didn't though but if both of them are here next year that should change. Especially if Blair or Bonner is gone. If either or both is gone (which given their playing time in the series and playoffs, I believe is a reasonable assumption) than we will want another big to take their place.

At this point Pop may see that Bonners streaks with threes is only a regular season occurrence. Blair is not going to grow a few inches or gain his ACLs all of a sudden. Unless Blair shows some gain of a mid-range game or consistent success with post moves and a better job with boxing out the organization may not see much potential and growth in his future. I personally would hate to get rid of Blair, but he should show some major improvement in some area during this offseason. If that is not going to happen than pick up his replacement already and someone to play during injuries.

We need a reliable fourth dependable big, Bonner and Blair have not shown that kind of ability. Pop certainly doesn't trust them when the game is on the line. Pop made a comment earlier this season that Tiago is a Stalwart for the Spurs future. Pop will learn and give Splitter more minutes. I am not so sure that he will do the same with Bonner and Blair.

Slippy
06-09-2012, 01:20 AM
Leonard is a better player then Splitter, much better, get it?

Splitter failed to post up Fisher, he's garbo!

IF your point is that Leanard is better player than Splitter you wont get much of an arguement from me. They also play different posi and different roles for the Spurs. You get the point of this thread?

Read my post about learning the hard way. Kawai got to start, got the mins and play through mistakes. Yet he wasn't sure when to double in the WC finals.

Spurs in the second half of the season went away from Tiago posting up even on the mis-match and concentrated on P'n'R.

Now correct me if im wrong but i remember 2 occasions they went to Splitter on the mis-match with Fisher. First time Splitter got the charge which easily could of been a flop. Second time Splitter got fouled .They never went back to him in the post.

dylankerouac
06-09-2012, 01:28 AM
Everyone was screaming for it during the season. I gave up on it when it became clear Pop only saw Tiago as a back-up for Tim.

Yeah Pop did some things this season that could have been improved on. At the same time the teams record was so good that no changes were screaming to be made. I can't be mad at the guy, he helped take the Spurs where they got and I'm sure helped the front office determine what types of season trades to make which ultimately may make the team even more dangerous next year. At the same time our young guys learned from the three series and also learned how tough a series can be. Really the only thing worse than what occurred would have been up 3-0 and then lose the next four games. Our guys learned, Pop learned the limits of his trust with the current roster.

I'm sure Tony would love another shot at it. This was basically his first year in trying to lead this team. Danny Green will not shrink in another moment like this, he didn't in college and he had some great games for us during the regular season. Next year he will be much more dangerous with fewer mistakes. If Tiago has any passion he too will want another chance to show Pop that he can be relied on, another year in the Spurs system may give him that. Diaw needs to realize that when he's wide open, there probably won't be a better shot he can create for a teammate when the paint is packed. If Gary Neal can improve his defense (I am not sure if his body limits him) damn I like our chances, this will only make the second unit more reliable and starters may get a shorter amount of rest.

The future is bright.

rascal
06-09-2012, 10:30 AM
Bullshit! If the choice is bad free throws or bad defense, you take the free throws. At least the clock stops and Duncan catches a quick breather! Diaw can't play defense with four guards, hell he barely does well with Duncan!

I don't know what this crazy notion that Splitter is good defense. Splitter is not good defense. His defensive challenges is to lead with his head and try to take a charge. He has limited vertical leaping ability and is slow laterally. Guys take it to the basket all the time on Splitter and jump right over him.


In matter in fact Splitter brought so little to the table that he was a liability to see the floor with his bad free throw shooting. That is why Pop decided to leave him on the bench where he belonged. The pressure of the playoffs got to Splitter.

DrSteffo
06-09-2012, 11:29 AM
This is just so stupid. Splitter has been good for the last 5 years or so. Now you blame him when he doesn't even play?

BackHome
06-09-2012, 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=silverblk mystix;5965174]I'm not surprised.

Once you place a label on a person-understanding has stopped. You are unable to see because you only see through your label-not the reality.

Have to say he got you on that one Blake.....

:lobt:

silverblk mystix
06-09-2012, 01:29 PM
[QUOTE=silverblk mystix;5965174]I'm not surprised.

Once you place a label on a person-understanding has stopped. You are unable to see because you only see through your label-not the reality.

Have to say he got you on that one Blake.....

:lobt:

Blake
06-09-2012, 03:49 PM
I'm not surprised.

Once you place a label on a person-understanding has stopped. You are unable to see because you only see through your label-not the reality.

Have to say he got you on that one Blake.....

:lobt:

ask him about the thread(s) where he labeled me a Popsucker.

Fabbs
06-09-2012, 03:57 PM
ask him about the thread(s) where he labeled me a Popsucker.
Hey silverblk mystix, how about the thread(s) where you labeled Blake a Popsucker?

Blake
06-09-2012, 05:20 PM
Hey silverblk mystix, how about the thread(s) where you labeled Blake a Popsucker?

He won't give it to you. He's not enlightened enough to admit he's been busted as a disingenuous hypocrite.

silverblk mystix
06-09-2012, 07:08 PM
Hey silverblk mystix, how about the thread(s) where you labeled Blake a Popsucker?

um...I was calling a spade a spade.

therealtruth
06-09-2012, 07:38 PM
At the same time the teams record was so good that no changes were screaming to be made.

I would give up all the regular season records to have a chance for a title. There's no prize for best record in the regular season. Pop's been the best regular season coach since we got Duncan but the titles don't match up. He should have had at least 1 or 2 more during that span.

Blake
06-09-2012, 08:54 PM
um...I was calling a spade a spade.

Yes, you labeled a spade a spade.

Tell us again what happens when you place labels on people.

Agloco
06-09-2012, 09:02 PM
um...I was calling a spade a spade.


lol definitions of convenience.

Your ability to "understand" never made it past your bathroom door tbqh.

silverblk mystix
06-09-2012, 11:45 PM
Yes, you labeled a spade a spade.

Tell us again what happens when you place labels on people.

Are you denying that you don't defend Pop no matter what?

That is the reality. No matter what criticism anyone levies against Pop-you and Cummdumpster have to run in here and defend Pop.

This makes you a Popsucker. Not my calling you out on it---you doing the defending over and over. You cannot bear anyone saying things about Pop.

What would you call it?

silverblk mystix
06-10-2012, 12:00 AM
lol definitions of convenience.

Your ability to "understand" never made it past your bathroom door tbqh.

I guess you don't know about all my other faults otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned only these.

God bless you and your family.

Blake
06-10-2012, 12:46 AM
Are you denying that you don't defend Pop no matter what?

to the death



This makes you a Popsucker.

This makes you a labeler.


What would you call it?

You're so busy labeling others as Pop suckers that you are blind to the truth:
Others are simply making fun of you and the rest of the mustang krew

silverblk mystix
06-10-2012, 12:47 AM
to the death



This makes you a labeler.



You're so busy labeling others as Pop suckers that you are blind to the truth:
Others are simply making fun of you and the rest of the mustang krew



You conveniently avoided answering my questions.

dylankerouac
06-10-2012, 05:36 PM
I would give up all the regular season records to have a chance for a title. There's no prize for best record in the regular season. Pop's been the best regular season coach since we got Duncan but the titles don't match up. He should have had at least 1 or 2 more during that span.

I hear ya. One can only hope that he too was able to learn from the experience and will make necessary adjustments to his own regular season coaching. I just noticed some important similarities if we can keep this core together:

2009-2010 Thunder out after first round
2010-2011 Thunder out after WCF
2011-2012 Thunder reach Finals

2010-2011 Spurs out after first round
2011-2012 Spurs out after WCF
2012-2013 Unwritten History

It's not like we can't beat the Thunder. We should continue to have a great shot next season. Role players are going to have to step-up and I think Tiago will need to become part of this teams identity and a force in some part of his offensive game and defensive game.

I think you were making some posts about needing a mid-range option in our game. I agree, that should be a strong option when players are run off the 3 point line. I know the whole point of the offense is to keep the ball movement and look for the best possible pass but in rare situations like the the OKC series, a drive and mid-range jumper should be a strong option especially when the paint is packed. Creating some space and a shooting a mid-range jumper may help keep the defense honest.

Blake
06-10-2012, 07:51 PM
You conveniently avoided answering my questions.

Question 1: apparently everyone but you knows my answer is yes

Question 2: Others are simply making fun of you and the rest of the mustang krew

silverblk mystix
06-10-2012, 08:12 PM
Question 1: apparently everyone but you knows my answer is yes

Question 2: Others are simply making fun of you and the rest of the mustang krew


#1) Lie

#2) You're still butthurt after your last humiliation-I understand.

Blake
06-10-2012, 09:05 PM
#1) Lie

#2) You're still butthurt after your last humiliation-I understand.

1. Prove it

2. You hate Pop so much you are now sucking off Doc Rivers-I loled.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 10:15 AM
1. Prove it

2. You hate Pop so much you are now sucking off Doc Rivers-I loled.

you could be lol-ing at scotti brooks and lionel hollins edumacating Pop in a playoff series...

but that would probably make you cry-ol

:lmao

Blake
06-11-2012, 10:25 AM
you could be lol-ing at scotti brooks and lionel hollins edumacating Pop in a playoff series...

but that would probably make you cry-ol

:lmao

except neither coach edumacated Pop.

Your crying about Pop is misguided and hilarious. Per the usual.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 10:38 AM
except neither coach edumacated Pop.

Your crying about Pop is misguided and hilarious. Per the usual.

If I had already stated that Pop was the spurs biggest obstacle to a title and it proved true, explain why you think I would be crying?

Keep supporting mediocrity as long as the spurs continue to be a "model" franchise.

Sheeple thinking.

Blake
06-11-2012, 10:48 AM
If I had already stated that Pop was the spurs biggest obstacle to a title and it proved true, explain why you think I would be crying?

It wasn't proven true.

Butthurt is the only explanation I can come up with as to why you are crying that the Coach of the Year is the main reason the Spurs didn't win a title.





Sheeple thinking.

Oh look, another label.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 10:50 AM
It wasn't proven true.

Butthurt is the only explanation I can come up with as to why you are crying that the Coach of the Year is the main reason the Spurs didn't win a title.




Oh look, another label.

You are learning grasshopper!

Blake
06-11-2012, 10:58 AM
You are learning grasshopper!

You are labeling, blind man!

I don't think you are learning from your teachings.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 11:07 AM
You are labeling, blind man!

I don't think you are learning from your teachings.

I have said nothing.

Blake
06-11-2012, 11:13 AM
I have said nothing.

you've said quite a bit.

Why are you lying?

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 11:32 AM
you've said quite a bit.

Why are you lying?

What is-is.

The rest is only opinion.

Blake
06-11-2012, 01:08 PM
What is-is.

The rest is only opinion.

No, it's a clear fact you've said a lot.

Why are you lying about it?

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 02:47 PM
No, it's a clear fact you've said a lot.

Why are you lying about it?


You couldn't understand it if it was in your face. Your preconceptions and your hate blind you.

Blake
06-11-2012, 04:46 PM
You couldn't understand it if it was in your face. Your preconceptions and your hate blind you.

You can't even keep up with your own enlightened bullshit.

lol labels

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 04:52 PM
You can't even keep up with your own enlightened bullshit.

lol labels


If you'd prefer to remain blind-I can't help you-no one can.

Blake
06-11-2012, 04:53 PM
If you'd prefer to remain blind-I can't help you-no one can.

You're a hypocritical liar. I wouldn't want your help even if I needed it.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 04:55 PM
You're a hypocritical liar. I wouldn't want your help even if I needed it.


You would refuse help even if it helped you?

To use one of your words;

Neat.

Blake
06-11-2012, 05:00 PM
You would refuse help even if it helped you?

To use one of your words;

Neat.

I wouldn't want your help.

I don't trust hypocrites and liars.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 05:03 PM
I wouldn't want your help.

I don't trust hypocrites and liars.


Here is a simple test for you;

When it comes to listening...or rather...being a GOOD listener, which is more important;

A) Listening to the person doing the talking

or

B) Listening to yourself

Simple. Just answer if you'd seriously like to learn a little bit today.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 05:30 PM
Closed mind.

Sad.

Blake
06-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Closed mind.

Sad.

I didn't even answer. Solid listening effort on your part. :tu

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 05:55 PM
I didn't even answer. Solid listening effort on your part. :tu


If you are afraid that I might teach you something-I understand.

Blake
06-11-2012, 06:03 PM
If you are afraid that I might teach you something-I understand.

Did it dawn on you I might be busy at the moment. obviously not. You're a terrible communicator, but I'll play along because I bet it will end in you looking like a fool again.

although it depends on the situation, I still give A the edge in importance.

BackHome
06-11-2012, 06:19 PM
Group Huggggggggggg...........:flag:

Blake
06-11-2012, 06:30 PM
Group Huggggggggggg...........:flag:

Na, I don't generally hug liars and/or hypocrites.

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 06:31 PM
Did it dawn on you I might be busy at the moment. obviously not. You're a terrible communicator, but I'll play along because I bet it will end in you looking like a fool again.

although it depends on the situation, I still give A the edge in importance.



Ok Fair Enough.

A- is the wrong answer but it is the answer most people would give because it is all they have been taught.

It is much, much more important to listen to yourself--or more accurately- your reactions while you are listening.

Imagine your brain is a computer. This computer has been fed instructions-programmed- so to speak. Your computer has a program for everything. So if, for example, you are talking to a female, wealthy, white, beautiful -redhead- your computer is filtering all these labels and you are pre-judging what you think you know about her based on these labels that your computer generated as soon as you saw her.

Before she even speaks, you are listening to these programmed labels about her-

When she starts speaking- you are hearing and reacting to these labels first- and you are reacting to that- again- before she even speaks.

She starts speaking and what she is saying is actually now a secondary priority -your pre-conditioning is the first priority- you can't even hear her sometimes through these labels.

It is important that you listen to her words also--but it is more important that you listen to your reactions to her words because if you are not careful --what you pre-determined about her will get in the way of what she is saying because you already decided beforehand what she was all about.

People do this all the time and they call it listening. They are not listening at all- they are just confirming or denying what they had already concluded about this person.

If these labels are negative in nature-do you think there is a chance that they will not hear the true meaning of her words?

If there is a predetermined hatred or a prejudice there-do you think it is possible to hear anything that this person says and actually understand it?

Vice-versa- if there is desire and longing for this person-do you think a person who is infatuated with her can ever hear what she is really saying?
Or is this person reacting to his desire and longing for her?

Blake
06-11-2012, 06:39 PM
Ok Fair Enough.

A- is the wrong answer but it is the answer most people would give because it is all they have been taught.

It is much, much more important to listen to yourself--or more accurately- your reactions while you are listening.

Imagine your brain is a computer. This computer has been fed instructions-programmed- so to speak. Your computer has a program for everything. So if, for example, you are talking to a female, wealthy, white, beautiful -redhead- your computer is filtering all these labels and you are pre-judging what you think you know about her based on these labels that your computer generated as soon as you saw her.

Before she even speaks, you are listening to these programmed labels about her-

When she starts speaking- you are hearing and reacting to these labels first- and you are reacting to that- again- before she even speaks.

She starts speaking and what she is saying is actually now a secondary priority -your pre-conditioning is the first priority- you can't even hear her sometimes through these labels.

It is important that you listen to her words also--but it is more important that you listen to your reactions to her words because if you are not careful --what you pre-determined about her will get in the way of what she is saying because you already decided beforehand what she was all about.

People do this all the time and they call it listening. They are not listening at all- they are just confirming or denying what they had already concluded about this person.

If these labels are negative in nature-do you think there is a chance that they will not hear the true meaning of her words?

If there is a predetermined hatred or a prejudice there-do you think it is possible to hear anything that this person says and actually understand it?

Vice-versa- if there is desire and longing for this person-do you think a person who is infatuated with her can ever hear what she is really saying?
Or is this person reacting to his desire and longing for her?

Where are you getting this from?

silverblk mystix
06-11-2012, 06:42 PM
Where are you getting this from?


Why?

Russo21
06-12-2012, 05:23 AM
Tiago should demand a trade. He's been given fuck all playing time to develop these last two years. How you supposed to improve if you arent getting PT?

And Pop barking at him and humiliating him on camera to millions of world wide viewers is just low. Fuck off Pop. You shouldnt be allowed to treat people like that

SamoanTD
06-12-2012, 08:36 AM
Tiago should demand a trade. He's been given fuck all playing time to develop these last two years. How you supposed to improve if you arent getting PT?

And Pop barking at him and humiliating him on camera to millions of world wide viewers is just low. Fuck off Pop. You shouldnt be allowed to treat people like that

If he plays like a box of tissue paper then pop has to do what he did.

Russo21
06-12-2012, 08:51 AM
Those fouls on tiago that led to that tongue lashing were bullshit though samoanTD. Splitter's gotta go to a team that will appreciate what he does and help him grow, not tear him down.

Blake
06-12-2012, 09:07 AM
Why?

I don't think A is categorically the wrong answer.

I'd like to see your source.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 09:34 AM
I don't think A is categorically the wrong answer.

I'd like to see your source.

Truth is the source.

Some things are self-evident.

Truth is inside you. Read it again and if there is falseness then something inside of you will detect it. Trust yourself.

Blake
06-12-2012, 09:43 AM
Truth is the source.

Some things are self-evident.

Truth is inside you. Read it again and if there is falseness then something inside of you will detect it. Trust yourself.

so you made up more enlightened bullshit.

You should listen to yourself talk some time. It's hilarious.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 10:39 AM
so you made up more enlightened bullshit.

You should listen to yourself talk some time. It's hilarious.

It is called truth. If you weren't so angry and so against the messenger you would re-read it and see if you could find falseness. You won't and I sense this might disturb you.

I learned from life. From living. From failing, from pain, from everything. It is all around you.
I said before, " I have a great education- it has taken me years to get over it."
(and I was paraphrasing someone who once said that) and everyone chimed in with their "you are stupid" comments.

But there is a meaning behind it.

We are filled with so much crap from the time we are born and the truth that was already in you was buried under all this "education."
Hence why I keep re-directing you to your own inner self/inner truth.
It is there if you care to peel away layers and layers of garbage that ALL of us were buried with.

Investigate.

It is your brain. Uncover it.

Forget the messenger. Study the message.

Blake
06-12-2012, 10:49 AM
It is called truth. If you weren't so angry and so against the messenger you would re-read it and see if you could find falseness. You won't and I sense this might disturb you.

I learned from life. From living. From failing, from pain, from everything. It is all around you.
I said before, " I have a great education- it has taken me years to get over it."
(and I was paraphrasing someone who once said that) and everyone chimed in with their "you are stupid" comments.

But there is a meaning behind it.

We are filled with so much crap from the time we are born and the truth that was already in you was buried under all this "education."
Hence why I keep re-directing you to your own inner self/inner truth.
It is there if you care to peel away layers and layers of garbage that ALL of us were buried with.

Investigate.

It is your brain. Uncover it.

Forget the messenger. Study the message.

I have studied communication theories in books and I've learned from life as well.

You have no cred on the subject and I think you made this shit up on the fly.

Per the usual.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 11:06 AM
I have studied communication theories in books and I've learned from life as well.

You have no cred on the subject and I think you made this shit up on the fly.

Per the usual.

Seriously?

You need cred?

For truth? For common sense? For Spirituality?

Please reconsider your stand. For your own benefit. I am probably twice your age and I am offering some sincere pointers to get you on the path that you seem to be gravitating to on your own. You sense truth but the messenger is in the way of your own good judgement.

Don't need anyone's cred to see truth. Don't take my word for it. Study the message. Try to poke holes in it. Try to test it in your own life-in your own mind- on your own- no one has to know.

If you can find falseness-you will have discovered it on your own. If you cannot find falseness in the spiritual things I've offered--you will have all the cred you wanted.

I may joke and b.s. frequently but when I speak of spirituality I am dead serious.

It is the most practical and wonderful thing in the world and it is free to everyone that wants to see. Most people prefer to remain blind.

Don't be one of them.

Blake
06-12-2012, 11:41 AM
Seriously?

You need cred?

who are you to tell me my opinion is flat wrong?

Yes, you need cred.


For truth? For common sense? For Spirituality?

Please reconsider your stand. For your own benefit. I am probably twice your age and I am offering some sincere pointers to get you on the path that you seem to be gravitating to on your own. You sense truth but the messenger is in the way of your own good judgement.

Don't need anyone's cred to see truth. Don't take my word for it. Study the message. Try to poke holes in it. Try to test it in your own life-in your own mind- on your own- no one has to know.

If you can find falseness-you will have discovered it on your own. If you cannot find falseness in the spiritual things I've offered--you will have all the cred you wanted.

I may joke and b.s. frequently but when I speak of spirituality I am dead serious.

It is the most practical and wonderful thing in the world and it is free to everyone that wants to see. Most people prefer to remain blind.

Don't be one of them.

All this is just more rambling bullshit from a proven hypocrite.

Unfortunately for you, you don't see this truth.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 12:32 PM
who are you to tell me my opinion is flat wrong?

Yes, you need cred.



All this is just more rambling bullshit from a proven hypocrite.

Unfortunately for you, you don't see this truth.

aah, more insults.

Here is something for you to ponder;

If only these threads could be kept/saved somewhere...you seem to be young...and as you grow older and discover some of these things on your own-through pain and suffering...

You could pull up one of these threads and marvel at the treasure you threw away and caused yourself years and years of mistakes because all you could see when given a treasure when you were young---was your own anger and hatred.

When you are older if you live long enough- there comes a day when you look back and realize that what you thought you knew when young-was not as it appeared.
What you know as you get older- you sometimes think to yourself, "I wish someone had told me this long ago- think of all the mistakes I could have avoided."

But then since we think we know everything when we are young and we trust what was put into us by "credentialed" people- how could we ever see truth when society is designed to keep us in the dark?



Good luck.

Blake
06-12-2012, 01:31 PM
aah, more insults.

Here is something for you to ponder;

If only these threads could be kept/saved somewhere...you seem to be young...and as you grow older and discover some of these things on your own-through pain and suffering...

You could pull up one of these threads and marvel at the treasure you threw away and caused yourself years and years of mistakes because all you could see when given a treasure when you were young---was your own anger and hatred.

When you are older if you live long enough- there comes a day when you look back and realize that what you thought you knew when young-was not as it appeared.
What you know as you get older- you sometimes think to yourself, "I wish someone had told me this long ago- think of all the mistakes I could have avoided."

But then since we think we know everything when we are young and we trust what was put into us by "credentialed" people- how could we ever see truth when society is designed to keep us in the dark?



Good luck.

lol putting ”credentialed” in quotes.

lol a ”prison guard” telling me the secret of life

Blake
06-12-2012, 01:35 PM
You're a terrible communicator, but I'll play along because I bet it will end in you looking like a fool again.

Easy money, tbh.

Fabbs
06-12-2012, 01:53 PM
Has a Splitter interview about the playoffs taken place?

Seems like the Spanish cover more on their players, like with the Manu interviews.
If Splitter could comment free of payback from Lord Poppycock would be interesting to hear from him.

ChumpDumper
06-12-2012, 02:02 PM
Confirmation bias.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 02:16 PM
lol putting ”credentialed” in quotes.

lol a ”prison guard” telling me the secret of life


Your youth betrays you.

There are presidents of billion dollar corporations and rocket scientists and brain surgeons who, despite all this, are very unhappy and/or depressed.

They taught you about quasars and black holes and molecules-but they never taught you how to live? :lmao

Those plaques on the wall mean absolutely nothing when you talk about non-mechanical things like freedom, spirituality and waking up.

Trust those sleeping scientists at your own peril.

Blake
06-12-2012, 02:44 PM
Your youth betrays you.

There are presidents of billion dollar corporations and rocket scientists and brain surgeons who, despite all this, are very unhappy and/or depressed.

They taught you about quasars and black holes and molecules-but they never taught you how to live? :lmao

Those plaques on the wall mean absolutely nothing when you talk about non-mechanical things like freedom, spirituality and waking up.

Trust those sleeping scientists at your own peril.

Trust silverblk mystix at an even greater peril.

Your lack of evidence to support your bullshit buries you.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 03:35 PM
Trust silverblk mystix at an even greater peril.

Your lack of evidence to support your bullshit buries you.


lol

Say I am interested in learning guitar and I hear a guy play and do some amazing stuff...

then he offers to teach me this amazing stuff-but instead of accepting it- I ask him to show me credentials!!! wtf?

That is pretty stupid.

Blindness is not exactly something to to be proud of. Calling others stupid while you are blind is interesting to say the least.

ChumpDumper
06-12-2012, 03:43 PM
lol

Say I am interested in learning guitar and I hear a guy play and do some amazing stuff...

then he offers to teach me this amazing stuff-but instead of accepting it- I ask him to show me credentials!!! wtf?

That is pretty stupid.

Blindness is not exactly something to to be proud of. Calling others stupid while you are blind is interesting to say the least.No one has seen you do any amazing stuff.

Blake
06-12-2012, 03:45 PM
No one has seen you do any amazing stuff.

aw. beat me to it

Blake
06-12-2012, 03:48 PM
lol

Say I am interested in learning guitar and I hear a guy play and do some amazing stuff...

then he offers to teach me this amazing stuff-but instead of accepting it- I ask him to show me credentials!!! wtf?

That is pretty stupid.

Blindness is not exactly something to to be proud of. Calling others stupid while you are blind is interesting to say the least.

what's funny is that you are blind by your own standards that you set up for yourself. You are apparently too blind to catch it.

Or you weren't listening to yourself speak.

I however listened to you bury yourself in bullshit. It's been very entertaining. :tu

Fabbs
06-12-2012, 04:00 PM
Could future posts be somehow related to Splitters being given 1 minute?

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 04:16 PM
Could future posts be somehow related to Splitters being given 1 minute?


It is related.

Just look really hard.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 04:19 PM
No one has seen you do any amazing stuff.



That is pretty much the problem right there.

Read through the posts and there is truth staring at you. Someone else might grasp it.

Unfortunately, you have to have the gift of sight - first.

Yet-no one can dispute any of these truths but the insults keep flying.

You can't dispute truth. Every word was measured.

ChumpDumper
06-12-2012, 04:33 PM
:cry I'm amazing! You just can't see it! :cry

Dr. John R. Brinkley
06-12-2012, 04:45 PM
Well, this is going to be a long Summer.

Blake
06-12-2012, 04:54 PM
Could future posts be somehow related to Splitters being given 1 minute?

it doesn't appear that your posting ability has been taken away

Blake
06-12-2012, 04:58 PM
That is pretty much the problem right there.

Read through the posts and there is truth staring at you. Someone else might grasp it.

Unfortunately, you have to have the gift of sight - first.

Yet-no one can dispute any of these truths but the insults keep flying.

You can't dispute truth. Every word was measured.

If the truth is indisputable, then by your very own cosmic rules, you yourself are blind.

Good stuff. :tu

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 05:36 PM
If the truth is indisputable, then by your very own cosmic rules, you yourself are blind.

Good stuff. :tu


Lo and behold;

You concluded everything beforehand - you made up your mind before looking at or investigating anything.

Exactly as I described to you.

Blake
06-12-2012, 05:46 PM
Lo and behold;

You concluded everything beforehand - you made up your mind before looking at or investigating anything.

Exactly as I described to you.

I made the conclusions based on your posts in this very thread.

You are horribly failing at using the proponents you listed in both answers A and B.

It's like you are making up random bullshit as you go, forgetting what you said just a few posts earlier. it's rather incredible.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 06:14 PM
I made the conclusions based on your posts in this very thread.

You are horribly failing at using the proponents you listed in both answers A and B.

It's like you are making up random bullshit as you go, forgetting what you said just a few posts earlier. it's rather incredible.


I described someone who is programmed and has preconceptions which are an impediment to truly listen.

I gave you some truth yet you got stuck on your labels and opinions of me and completely missed any truth.

You never even attempted to disprove what I said-you never attempted to poke holes in my words-the only thing you could possibly do was exactly what I told you a pre-programmed and blind person would do.

Or- you could have opened your mind and learned something-but I see it over and over. People are not ready for truth.

Blake
06-12-2012, 07:18 PM
I described someone who is programmed and has preconceptions which are an impediment to truly listen.

Right. Based on your posts in this thread, you're describing you.


I gave you some truth yet you got stuck on your labels and opinions of me and completely missed any truth.

You never even attempted to disprove what I said-you never attempted to poke holes in my words-the only thing you could possibly do was exactly what I told you a pre-programmed and blind person would do.

You want me to disprove your bullshit. Lol. You have to prove your bullshit isn't bullshit without telling me to listen to my heart.

That's how learning works in the non-existential world.


or- you could have opened your mind and learned something-but I see it over and over. People are not ready for truth.

I actually opened my mind by reading and studying communication.

You are still listening to what your heart is telling you about such study and research.

You are obviously far from being ready for truth.

Fabbs
06-12-2012, 07:31 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr5s1w6QZM1qcmeve.jpg
Silver, could we meet here?

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 08:27 PM
I'm flattered.

Unfortunately for the Poppers....no.

Blake
06-12-2012, 08:50 PM
what does Motel 6 have to do with Tiago getting 1 minute

Blake
06-12-2012, 08:53 PM
I'm flattered.

Unfortunately for the Poppers....no.

Preconceptions

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 09:15 PM
Preconceptions


lol trying to seduce me...uncomfortable.

Blake
06-12-2012, 09:47 PM
lol trying to seduce me...uncomfortable.

Misconception.

Par for your course.

silverblk mystix
06-12-2012, 11:21 PM
Misconception.

Par for your course.

lol still trying...desperate...very uncomfortable.

ChumpDumper
06-13-2012, 03:16 AM
lol silverblk trying to ignore his history of fantasizing about male posters

Blake
06-13-2012, 08:26 AM
lol still trying...desperate...very uncomfortable.

misperception

Blake
06-13-2012, 08:29 AM
lol silverblk trying to ignore his history of fantasizing about male posters

he just stated twice how uncomfortable he is in his misperception, yet he's still here.

I bet he also whines about being uncomfortable throughout the entire session with his male masseuse.

And will whine again on his next visit.

rascal
06-13-2012, 08:33 AM
You two guys have hijacked and killed this thread.

Blake
06-13-2012, 09:30 AM
You two guys have hijacked and killed this thread.

If Splitter would have been given more minutes, would the Spurs have won?

ohmwrecker
06-13-2012, 09:47 AM
No.

Blake
06-13-2012, 09:57 AM
No.

/thread

ChumpDumper
06-13-2012, 10:04 AM
You two guys have hijacked and killed this thread.Don't worry, there will be plenty more just like it.