Duncan should retire...

[Ace]

Chuck is right imho...

[weebo]

so should lebron tbh

[Richie]

Seriously, getting shut down by Perkins and Ibaka is not a reason to retire. If Boston gets to the WCF, Garnett will look the same.

Playing a top 3 defensive post player and best weakside shot blocker in the NBA and he needs to retire? Give me a break

[TampaDude]

Spurs can do it all again next year and win it all.

2013 - odd year - Spurs got this shit!!! :toast

[DMX7]

How many championships does Chuck have?

[dg7md]

Are you kidding? Did you see what he did at the end of the game?

Timmy lost a lot but he brought it tonight. He is a true winner in every sense. He did not choke. He played as well as he could and had some great numbers.

That dunk to settle down the crowd really helped us come back from what would have been a double-digit loss.

Duncan still has it.

[dbreiden83080]

Easy for Chuck to say. I found it funny during the pre-game when he was saying "All that championship pedigree doesn't mean anything" how the hell would you know when you never won shit? Tim played great tonight and nobody is gonna push him out the door..

[SpurOutofTownFan]

the SPurs can content as long as Duncan plays - the day Duncan retires I'm not sure how much the Spurs can do.

[AFBlue]

Hahahaha! I hope this is a troll job.

[naico]

As long as you can help a team win a championship, you should play for one.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Easy for Chuck to say. I found it funny during the pre-game when he was saying "All that championship pedigree doesn't mean anything" how the hell would you know when you never won shit? Tim played great tonight and nobody is gonna push him out the door..

This. I love the Chuckster but he sometimes runs his mouth and doesn't think what he's saying.

[dbreiden83080]

40 min

25/14/2 blocks

Duncan is one of the games great warriors....

[Spur|n|Austin]

Chuck is right imho...

And what should, Lebron do if he doesn't get past Boston?

TD has 2-3 more seasons left if Pop continues to control is minutes as he has.

[DMC]

I said it before (with my number of posts, that's always true) that the Spurs are mooching off the playoff teat and not building contenders. They are making money by having extra games in the season. It's a tease of sorts for the fans.

Next year Tim won't be such a financial ball and chain, so maybe someone who wants to make it to the playoffs decides to come to SA, maybe a decent big and some real bench 3pt shooting help instead of the lame duck Bonner/Blair combo.

[ICE3000]

I agree Tim has nothing left to prove, Manu in not the same Manu, tony isn't getting any younger and I don't want Duncan to go out when he is a shell of himself. I believe this team can CONTEND as long as Duncan plays but I don't see us beating OKC

[SenorSpur]

Tim is clearly in decline and has been for a couple of years. THe problem for both him and the Spurs is that he's got little to no frontline support around him. I don't know how many times or ways I can say this. The Spurs have to stop dicking around with the likes of Bonner and Blair and get a couple of young, athletic bigs that can help Duncan with the heavy lifting. He shouldn't have to continue doing this work alone. This was evident after the Memphis playoff series and it's even more evident now.

I hope the Spurs front office finally will commit to this being their biggest offseason objective.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yeah, he'll never get closer than this again. Hopefully he has the dignity to let it go...

[Spur|n|Austin]

Tim is clearly in decline and has been for a couple of years. THe problem for both him and the Spurs is that he's got little to no frontline support around him. I don't know how many times or ways I can say this. The Spurs have to stop dicking around with the likes of Bonner and Blair and get a couple of young, athletic bigs that can help Duncan with the heavy lifting. He shouldn't have to continue doing this work alone. This was evident after the Memphis playoff series and it's even more evident now.

I hope the Spurs front office finally will commit to this being their biggest offseason objective.

[100%duncan]

It's his choice. Wouldn't really lose anything if he did it other than another year's paycheck. What ever he decides the front office should respect.

[Spurtacus]

40 min

25/14/2 blocks

Duncan is one of the games great warriors....

This.

Timmy still better than 90% of the bigs in the NBA. Spurs need to get a physical big to pair with him next season.

[Ice009]

Chuck is right imho...

Miami should retire cause you guys ain't winning shit so why bother turning up season after season?

[dg7md]

Yeah, he'll never get closer than this again. Hopefully he has the dignity to let it go...

Nobody thought we'd be here this year. Duncan will get close because we still have a good core unit.

Get out with that talk, seriously, do other fans of teams troll your team after a big loss at your team's forum?

Duncan had nothing to do with what happened tonight.

[Ice009]

Yeah, he'll never get closer than this again. Hopefully he has the dignity to let it go...

Why doesn't Kobe let it go?

[Bruno]

Duncan should do whatever he wants. Retiring would be fine but so would continuing to play.

In a couple of weeks, when Duncan would have cleared his head, Pop needs to have a talk with him to know for how long he still wants to play. Tim's answer to that question will define a lot what Spurs should do this offseason.

[baseline bum]

I hope not. I'd like to see another 2 years out of Tim.

[BatManu20]

Yeah, he'll never get closer than this again. Hopefully he has the dignity to let it go...

Even though I hate the Lakers, I give you props for having Bon Iver- "Holocene" on your profile

[Jumi]

40 min

25/14/2 blocks

Duncan is one of the games great warriors....

This says it all! If the role players would've carried their weight, we'd be in the Finals now!

[GrandeDavid]

No way! Tim's got a couple decent years left.

[Capt Bringdown]

Dramatic change is inevitable & necessary.

The big 3 are snake bit. You're never out of a playoff series against the Spurs. Our opponent's preparation must include the Spurs propensity for meltdown and choke.

2 backdoor sweeps. What's next, blowing a 3-0 lead?

[BatManu20]

Duncan looked like a shell of himself this series. I hate to see him that slow and un-athletic with no lift off the ground. If he retires I won't be mad at him. We aren't sinning it next year anyways. The dog days of the Spurs are upon us.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't get why anyone would say he "should" retire. If he wants to play next year (or the next couple), why not? He's not going to ask for a crazy amount of money or anything, and he still contributes more than the average big in the league.

[tesseractive]

Yeah, he'll never get closer than this again. Hopefully he has the dignity to let it go...

We all know Kobe doesn't have any dignity. He'll be out there with a walker jacking up shots if that's what it takes to break the scoring record.

[Tuddy]

Best bigman in this year's playoffs. Jumpshooters like Garnett are guards

[polandprzem]

Let him collect some point and rebs and block to resume.
He needs to be higher in reg season numbers.

[SenorSpur]

The said part to all of this is that this was probably his best chance to get ring #5.

[polandprzem]

The said part to all of this is that this was probably his best chance to get ring #5.

The best and the last.
Heart ripped through the chest!!!!!!!!!!!

[Russ]

How many championships does Chuck have?

Come on, he put the Dream Team on his back and, against all odds, got them past . . . Nigeria. :)

His crowning achievement (well, as a basketball player).

[~Sweetmelody~]

I still think he can play 1 or 2 more years but he needs help.

[DeadlyDynasty]

do other fans of teams troll your team after a big loss at your team's forum?


umm...yeah:lol

[SequSpur]

Why would Duncan not want to get paid? He still balls his ass off... Spurs should pay him, look elsewhere or walk away.

Why should he take less? Dude still is a steal at 15 mill a year... WTF? We gonna pay him Bonner money? I don't give a shit about the Spurs finances actually. You guys worry about to much shit that is out of your control.. How the hell do you make it through the damn day?

[Jumi]

This series didn't fail because of Duncan, Parker, or Ginobili! Give'em another run. I can't say that this is our last chance at number 5. If the ROLE players would've performed their jobs, there would be no need for Tim to play 40 minutes. Our stars played well, they just didn't get any consistent help. Ibaka, Thabo, Perk, and Collison helped their stars to victory. Ask the Heat what happens when the role players don't play a role!

[Holt's Cat]

I hate Spurs fans.

[Horse]

Miami fan is hilarious even bigger chokers than dirk and the mavs.

[Reck]

Yeah true.

This was the ideal year to retire too. Shortened season, had what it took to win it this year, good stacked team.

It all was there.

It would suck to see Duncan go out on a fucked up super washed up note.

[mbass]

the SPurs can content as long as Duncan plays - the day Duncan retires I'm not sure how much the Spurs can do.

The Spurs would not be much if Duncan retired.

[dbreiden83080]

This.

Timmy still better than 90% of the bigs in the NBA. Spurs need to get a physical big to pair with him next season.

It's amazing how well he is still playing. I remember watching Ewing late in his career at around this same age 36 against the Heat in the playoffs and he was basically reduced to a 15 foot jumper.. He could no longer rebound or defend or play major minutes. Tim can still score on the block, he can still shoot the jumper, he can still rebound and defend.... He still has game left...

[dbreiden83080]

The said part to all of this is that this was probably his best chance to get ring #5.

A 5th ring would be gravy but he doesn't really need it to elevate himself any further. He is 36 and secured as the best PF of all time and a top 10 player ever..

[mytespurs]

I can't see Tim wanting to go out like this-he'll probably play out his contract-who knows.....he may yet give 1 for the thumb. :hat

[dbreiden83080]

Come on, he put the Dream Team on his back and, against all odds, got them past . . . Nigeria. :)

His crowning achievement (well, as a basketball player).

My High School team had a better shot than some of those scrubs the Dream Team played.. They were asking for autographs during the game... :lol

[baseline bum]

The Spurs were +22 in his time on the floor and -49 in his time on the bench this series. Things are going to get really ugly really fast if Tim retires.

[InK]

Cant you just troll one of the 100 threads already up? And heh at shitting away here whereas your team is in the same situation Spurs were but a few hours ago. Gl against Boston anways

[TD 21]

Barkley is another one of these idiots who pretends to respect him but constantly takes shots at him (like Kerr). He's the third best center in the league, just had his best playoffs in five years, was their most consistent player in the playoffs and one of the two best bigs in the playoffs period and he should retire; seriously? 25-14, if Garnett put that up they'd be foaming at the mouth.

[kaji157]

He will play one more year and win the 5th. He and Ginobili will say goodbye together along with Pop, seems pretty obvious to me.

[Richie]

Why would Duncan not want to get paid? He still balls his ass off... Spurs should pay him, look elsewhere or walk away.

Why should he take less? Dude still is a steal at 15 mill a year... WTF? We gonna pay him Bonner money? I don't give a shit about the Spurs finances actually. You guys worry about to much shit that is out of your control.. How the hell do you make it through the damn day?

Next season? No reason whatsoever to not get paid as much as we can afford while staying under the tax.

The year after? He has every reason to take way less than his market value. With Ginobilis contract coming off the books (and hopefully him resigning for cheap) we have cap space to bring someone in to get us over the hump.

[Slippy]

Spurs rely on Duncan too much. What he's still able to do for this Spurs team is more than valuable how-ever. On defense he was our lone warrior altering and blocking shots. On offense his jumper and rolling to the basket is money. THe guy just needs help when it comes to front-court duties. Would explain why he seemed to tire as the game went on.

Blame POP for not allowing Tim and Tiago to develop. For example tonight's game, he tried to aliviate some of that duty with Tiago but when you don't play together, it's harder knowing what to do and when. To see the short-leashed Tiago yanked 3-times, yet all series Diaw pretty much offered no-help still got to play through it all. Even Ginger had a bigger leash. It's on you POP, we saw this last season.

[ginobili fan]

Lol is this thread serious ?
He's not the MVP anymore but he's still in the top 5 big men in the league.
If he should retire, so should Gasol, Garnett and Nowitzki...

[BatManu20]

He will play one more year and win the 5th. He and Ginobili will say goodbye together along with Pop, seems pretty obvious to me.

This would be fucking magical, but it's a long shot unless we sign a good Center. Splitter is trash and even our European players that are waiting to come over are not nearly good enough to help us win a ring. We'd need another great player, and not have our role players play like butt hole when it matters.

[dbreiden83080]

Lol is this thread serious ?
He's not the MVP anymore but he's still in the top 5 big men in the league.
If he should retire, so should Gasol, Garnett and Nowitzki...

How do you play 40 min in a close out game against the team that is going to win it all probably put up 25/14 in 40 min and tell him to retire...

Spurs with it all tonight were a play here or there or a call from winning...

[JustinJDW]

Nope. He'll play two more years at about ten million and year and then retire, with Pop and Manu retiring that year as well.

[Ice009]

At 36, Barkley in his dreams would he have been able to play a game like the one Tim had tonight and he's telling Tim to retire?

Hey Charles, maybe you were a fat lazy fuck at 36 years old and should have retired, but TD can play as long as he likes. Fucking chump.

[venitian navigator]

Now I could't blame Tim if he decide to retire.
It's probably the first time he said something about the officiating.
He's the kind of person that if is gonna think that the nba, no matter what, will give advantage to any team they think would be better for the "league" to win, it's really probable that he'll take this thought to the extreme consequences...

[Spurs Brazil]

Duncan not ready to decide on future
Posted on June 7, 2012 at 12:36 am by Mike Monroe

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/06/07/duncan-not-ready-to-decide-on-future/

[Ice009]

Now I could't blame Tim if he decide to retire.
It's probably the first time he said something about the officiating.
He's the kind of person that if is gonna think that the nba, no matter what, will give advantage to any team they think would be better for the "league" to win, it's really probable that he'll take this thought to the extreme consequences...

Shit.

I just recalled the last time Tim said something in public about officiating. Didn't Tim say the officiating in FIBA sucked and he wouldn't play there again? Hopefully he doesn't call it quits because of this.

[~Sweetmelody~]

This series didn't fail because of Duncan, Parker, or Ginobili! Give'em another run. I can't say that this is our last chance at number 5. If the ROLE players would've performed their jobs, there would be no need for Tim to play 40 minutes. Our stars played well, they just didn't get any consistent help. Ibaka, Thabo, Perk, and Collison helped their stars to victory. Ask the Heat what happens when the role players don't play a role!

You said it perfectly. Extremely disappointed in our bench.

[spurspokesman]

Tim is clearly in decline and has been for a couple of years. THe problem for both him and the Spurs is that he's got little to no frontline support around him. I don't know how many times or ways I can say this. The Spurs have to stop dicking around with the likes of Bonner and Blair and get a couple of young, athletic bigs that can help Duncan with the heavy lifting. He shouldn't have to continue doing this work alone. This was evident after the Memphis playoff series and it's even more evident now.

I hope the Spurs front office finally will commit to this being their biggest offseason objective.

This. Couldn't have said it any better senor. Its sad how the front office has dicked around with this issue for so long and the minute they get a serviceable big (diaw) with toughness they make a deep playoff run. If they don't get a big that can log big minutes they can just hang it up tbh.

[TXstbobcat]

After his performance last night, I hope he still wants to play a few more years. Watching the spurs just won't be the same when he retires and his jersey number is hanging in the rafters.

[John_C]

I believe Duncan got demoralized a lot of times during the series. Whenever Ibaka or Perkins got the better of him defensively, he seemed stunned a lot of times. It's like his demeanor seems to trickle down on the other players. It's just like the way with the Grizzlies last year.

Duncan has to man up, and admit whether he has lost his competitive mentality. If he continue to play next year, he'll be still facing younger guys in the playoffs. Younger guys with the bravado to challenge him with an "in your face" attitude. He must ask himself if he could still play with a better mentality than what he displayed the past three playoff series, against Dallas, Memphis, and now OKC.

[rascal]

Spurs can do it all again next year and win it all.

2013 - odd year - Spurs got this shit!!! :toast

Homer. You think the Spurs will win every year. Spurs are finished as title contenders. This year was there last shot. They will have a lot of money locked into aging players.

[DPG21920]

Do people think there's a legit chance Tim retires? I was of the opinion it's pretty certain he would be back. That would suck terribly if he just left. He should announce he's retiring at the beginning of his last year IMO and get a true farewell tour.

[DMC]

If you retire at his age, you probably have 50 years of retirement to enjoy. No one needs 50 years of retirement, though I wouldn't mind. What could anyone imagine doing that would beat being a professional basketball player that Tim would actually do?

Unless the Spurs make a stupid move, I think Tim hangs around, judging by his body language and comments in the prior interview, but I want to see his exit interview just to be certain.

[DeadlyDynasty]

He should announce he's retiring at the beginning of his last year IMO and get a true farewell tour.

Pretty self-serving, tbh.

[in2deep]

he still looks good.

2 years.

[spursince#99]

this series didn't fail because of duncan, parker, or ginobili! Give'em another run. I can't say that this is our last chance at number 5. If the role players would've performed their jobs, there would be no need for tim to play 40 minutes. Our stars played well, they just didn't get any consistent help. Ibaka, thabo, perk, and collison helped their stars to victory. Ask the heat what happens when the role players don't play a role!


+1

[Leetonidas]

He has a lot of game in him and would put a team like Miami over the top. 25/14/2 is great for a player his age imo. But the Spurs need to get a player like Gasol to take the load of Timmy in the post, it's obvious Splitter is a little pansy bitch and will never grow a ballsack. Then again Pau's vagina tends to bleed pretty easily but maybe if he's away from Kobe that won't be the case.

[dbreiden83080]

Do people think there's a legit chance Tim retires? I was of the opinion it's pretty certain he would be back. That would suck terribly if he just left. He should announce he's retiring at the beginning of his last year IMO and get a true farewell tour.

What is it about Duncan that strikes you as the farewell tour type? If he feels it's time then he probably just goes..

[bdictjames]

25 points, and he should retire? What?

[clambake]

he can't whine about the refs and then quit. legacy killer.

[gameFACE]

He can play another two years.

I would love a swan song championship for Tim. But I give the Spurs a Lloyd Christmas chance at this point of ever getting back to the finals again.

[SpursFaninMS]

What is it about Duncan that strikes you as the farewell tour type? If he feels it's time then he probably just goes..

I don't know if he would announce it to the public, but I guarantee he would notify the organization AT LEAST a year ahead of time so that they could make moves accordingly.

Tim absolutely strikes me as a guy who would want the organization better off in the long run.

That said, we haven't done shit in terms of moves to indicate that we need to replace Duncan.

He's got at least one, probably two years left.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Chuck is right imho...

http://wonderpodonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/b218965611.jpg

[DPG21920]

Pretty self-serving, tbh.

Yup.