For everyone complaining about the refs...

[gospursgojas]

I hear ya, and I agree. Refs suck, NBA is rigged, durrant LeBron is finals ratings heaven, etc.

But spurs should have and needed to overcome the refs. They did it 4 times before. NBA didn't want spurs in any of those finals. Spurs were just good enough to overcome the stern cronies. It's sad and unfair but its reality in todays NBA; if you don't have a huge marketable superstar, your team is gonna have to win a few games 5 vs 8 on the court. You gotta be that much better than the other team, and spurs weren't this series. Can't blame them for it. Can't really blame okc for it either.

[BC3]

David Stern = NBA Script Writer

[Blue-Lightning]

I'm not going to watch a league where certain teams have to overcome 12 point (verifiable) offerings to the team the league wants.

[gospursgojas]

I'm not going to watch a league where certain teams have to overcome 12 point (verifiable) offerings to the team the league wants.

Good. More power to you. NBA doesn't care about fans who care about basketball. They care about casual rich fan who pays big money for courtside seats to watch LeBron dunk. And avg Joe who buys his jersey.

So sadly by not watching you'll only be keeping your peace of mind. NBA couldn't care less.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

This is very obvious. Maybe the refs fucked this game but the Spurs didn't lose the series because of that.

[ploto]

OKC is an even smaller market than San Antonio.

[spurs2112]

OKC is an even smaller market than San Antonio.

Yeah but they have a huge marketable star in Durant. As good as the big three are/were, they just don't bring in the kind of dough the NBA super stars do.

[Borat Sagyidev]

don't know what to say about this...

[gospursgojas]

OKC is an even smaller market than San Antonio.

Never understood the market conversation tbh. It's about ratings. Obviously thunder heat > spurs heat to casual fan. Regardless, conspiracy or not. Championship teams usually have to win a couple of games in their run 5 on 8.

[gospursgojas]

...overcoming poor officiating is an attribute a championship team must have... is the point I'm trying to make.

Didnt want this to become yet another conspiracy thread.

[boutons_deux]

The refs were horrible, but the Spurs were, too, in the 2nd half

probably shot under 40% for 36 pts for the half, that ain't championship ball.

[NRHector]

...overcoming poor officiating is an attribute a championship team must have... is the point I'm trying to make.

Didnt want this to become yet another conspiracy thread.

refs can kill any momentum and give it to the home team just like tonight

[TDMVPDPOY]

dunno about rinals ratings, i be busy watchin euro2012 and tdf2012 instead of this crap

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Anyone know how many fouls the thunder had compared to the spurs?

[gospursgojas]

Anyone know how many fouls the thunder had compared to the spurs?

56 to 3

[TwelveGs210]

Never understood the market conversation tbh. It's about ratings. Obviously thunder heat > spurs heat to casual fan. Regardless, conspiracy or not. Championship teams usually have to win a couple of games in their run 5 on 8.

The Market = Ratings

A city the size of Houston for example, automatically gets great ratings just off hometown fanbase alone. Couple that with a another large market on the other side, Stern is already looking at huge numbers between just two cities.

[gospursgojas]

The Market = Ratings

A city the size of Houston for example, automatically gets great ratings just off hometown fanbase alone. Couple that with a another large market on the other side, Stern is already looking at huge numbers between just two cities.

At this level (nba finals) I'd figure it doesn't matter about market size of teams playing. It's a national event. Get the teams in there that the nation will recognize and wanna watch. But whateves.

[TDMVPDPOY]

The Market = Ratings

A city the size of Houston for example, automatically gets great ratings just off hometown fanbase alone. Couple that with a another large market on the other side, Stern is already looking at huge numbers between just two cities.

nba only cares about the US market, pretty stupid for them not to factor in the world global market...even if the nba finals played in 82 games would not even come close to a euro championship football game....

[TwelveGs210]

Fuck the NBA they have been pissing me off since they refused to budge during most of the lockout negotiations.

Then with the Paul to L.A. shit, the debacle that is known as NBA Lottery 12', Spurs having to play nearly perfect to even have a shot at winning tonight, I'm just tired of thinking about Basketball.

Book it, the "Hack a ____" will be changed this year, and will be known as the Pop rule. Typical BS.

I'm gonna watch fake reality shows on TruTV, fuck Stern

[gospursgojas]

Fuck the NBA they have been pissing me off since they refused to budge during most of the lockout negotiations.

Then with the Paul to L.A. shit, the debacle that is known as NBA Lottery 12', Spurs having to play nearly perfect to even have a shot at winning tonight, I'm just tired of thinking about Basketball.

Book it, the "Hack a ____" will be changed this year, and will be known as the Pop rule. Typical BS.

I'm gonna watch fake reality shows on TruTV, fuck Stern

pretty much same thing

[thunderfan]

anyone know how many fouls the thunder had compared to the spurs?

18-24

[thunderfan]

SA was just gassed in the 4Q. They were playing sloppy and opening themselves up to the whistle. Couple of bad calls, but I don't subscribe to the conspiracy BS. SA just flat out didn't have the wind in their sails in the 2nd half.

[DarrinS]

“In the first half we were running and playing our game, taking it to them,” Jackson said. “Then the third quarter we were like running in quicksand. We didn’t play fast. We slowed the ball down. We let them get back into it.

“Look, I’m not gonna take anything away. Those young kids can play and they’re the better team. But if you look at what happened, we stopped playing. You can’t run from that.”

-Stephen Jackson

[thispego]

I hear ya, and I agree. Refs suck, NBA is rigged, durrant LeBron is finals ratings heaven, etc.

But spurs should have and needed to overcome the refs. They did it 4 times before. NBA didn't want spurs in any of those finals. Spurs were just good enough to overcome the stern cronies. It's sad and unfair but its reality in todays NBA; if you don't have a huge marketable superstar, your team is gonna have to win a few games 5 vs 8 on the court. You gotta be that much better than the other team, and spurs weren't this series. Can't blame them for it. Can't really blame okc for it either.

Like I said in a previous thread, spurs were unimpeded in previous title runs cause there were no superstar teams in each conference to pair in the finals. If sterns did this every year then people would catch on. Don't be blind dude, you know this doesn't happen every year, makes you sound like a homer to say league tried to screw them like this in every championship run of theirs :rolleyes

[thispego]

SA was just gassed in the 4Q. They were playing sloppy and opening themselves up to the whistle. Couple of bad calls, but I don't subscribe to the conspiracy BS. SA just flat out didn't have the wind in their sails in the 2nd half.

:rolleyes

rationalize all you want :lol

[thunderfan]

:rolleyes

rationalize all you want :lol

I'd recommend you quit watching NBA basketball if you truly believe all of this conspiracy crap. I don't see the point in even watching.

[thispego]

I'd recommend you quit watching NBA basketball if you truly believe all of this conspiracy crap. I don't see the point in even watching.

I'm seriously considering it. Sad that I'd have to abandon my favorite team in order to do so, though. Very sad if you are unable to acknowledge that the last two games were fixed and officiating affected the outcome. Very sad.

[DarrinS]

Thunder were the better team in this series

/thread

[thispego]

:lmao

[jag]

SA was just gassed in the 4Q. They were playing sloppy and opening themselves up to the whistle. Couple of bad calls, but I don't subscribe to the conspiracy BS. SA just flat out didn't have the wind in their sails in the 2nd half.

I agree

[rascal]

The Spurs are not good for ratings. It is the same old core team the fans have seen before to most casual NBA fan. They have also won before with the same core so there is no new champion team underdog interest like OK City will draw.

OK City is the new kid on the block with rising stars. Much more interesting and better for ratings for the casual fan.

[BUMP]

I hear ya, and I agree. Refs suck, NBA is rigged, durrant LeBron is finals ratings heaven, etc.

But spurs should have and needed to overcome the refs. They did it 4 times before. NBA didn't want spurs in any of those finals. Spurs were just good enough to overcome the stern cronies. It's sad and unfair but its reality in todays NBA; if you don't have a huge marketable superstar, your team is gonna have to win a few games 5 vs 8 on the court. You gotta be that much better than the other team, and spurs weren't this series. Can't blame them for it. Can't really blame okc for it either.

grow a pair you fucking faggot

[rascal]

I'm seriously considering it. Sad that I'd have to abandon my favorite team in order to do so, though. Very sad if you are unable to acknowledge that the last two games were fixed and officiating affected the outcome. Very sad.

The Spurs were just passing the ball around the perimeter looking for open shots or parker taking it to the basket. On the defensive side there was only Duncan underneath battling two or three players.

Duncan had no help on the inside and that is a result of the Spurs fo not addressing the frontline like many of us have said all year. Bonner and Diaw are not a frontline players and Splitter was a bust in this series,Pop lost confidence in playing him.

The better team won and had nothing to do with the refs. Jackson was taunting the OK Bench on more than one occasion.

[sananspursfan21]

I'd recommend you quit watching NBA basketball if you truly believe all of this conspiracy crap. I don't see the point in even watching.

Im not watching the finals. First finals series in 18 years im gonna miss. Itll be hard but im not going to contribute to the money stack. The ratings will be huge without me. Its david sterns league and he will have it his way

[thispego]

The Spurs were just passing the ball around the perimeter looking for open shots or parker taking it to the basket. On the defensive side there was only Duncan underneath battling two or three players.

Duncan had no help on the inside and that is a result of the Spurs fo not addressing the frontline like many of us have said all year. Bonner and Diaw are not a frontline players and Splitter was a bust in this series,Pop lost confidence in playing him.

The better team won and had nothing to do with the refs. Jackson was taunting the OK Bench on more than one occasion.

:lmao

[gospursgojas]

Like I said in a previous thread, spurs were unimpeded in previous title runs cause there were no superstar teams in each conference to pair in the finals. If sterns did this every year then people would catch on. Don't be blind dude, you know this doesn't happen every year, makes you sound like a homer to say league tried to screw them like this in every championship run of theirs :rolleyes

Fair take

[Spurs da champs]

Spurs choked game away, its as simple that. Again did they give a thunder a 18pt free throw?

[spurs10]

18-24
Try 18-31.....big difference.
18-24 and the Spurs were likely winning.