2012 Free Agent: Anthony Randolph

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/media/act_anthony_randolph.jpg
Born: Jul 15, 1989
Height: 6-11 / 2.11
Weight: 225 lbs. / 102.1 kg.
Prior to NBA / Country:
Louisiana State / USA
Years Pro: 3

Info (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/anthony_randolph/career_stats.html)

[SamoanTD]

If he comes cheap.

[loveforthegame]

Loved him in GS but he never seemed to get it together. I don't see Pop having much patience with him at all.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

In contrast, I think Pop/Duncan could work wonders with Randolph, may help him to be the player he could be.

Love to see us sign him as a cheap project.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Loved him in GS but he never seemed to get it together. I don't see Pop having much patience with him at all.

Agreed. If you can't play for D'Antoni, who doesn't even give a shit about defense at all, and only wants you to shoot, you can't play for anyone.

[Bruno]

After a start of the season where he didn't play, Randolph has had some minutes at the end of it. In April (11 games), he averaged 10.9pts, 5.2rbds and 2.3 blocks in 22mpg. It won't be enough for him to get his $4M QO but it should have been noticed by some FO. I hope Spurs will at least giving him a close look because they should really add some athleticism in the paint.

[SamoanTD]

^agreed

[loveforthegame]

I'd get behind them taking a look at him. He has the tools we need but his attitude was/is the problem. Maybe he's grown up some but I can still see him arguing with the coach and pouting on the bench.

[-21-]

Yep, he's the type of player we need: an athletic big. But if he couldn't play for the teams he has been on, then he's probably not gonna play for Pop at all.

[SamoanTD]

If anything this guy needs to go to a team that has a set program like the spurs with the veteran leadership he will fall into line and finally develop into something.

[MR-Clutch]

I remember reading a David Thorpe chat in which he said that if Anthony Randolph came to San Antonio that he could be a hall of famer. Of course I'm guessing it would also depend on Randolph's iq, but I think being around another kid in Leonard, who has a ridiculous work ethic could only help him. I think it's a low risk high reward move for the spurs. Chip could work on that jumpshot he loves so much.

[CGD]

Is he a legit 6-11? I looks like he has a long ass neck like that rookie Malcom we had for a while this year.

[CGD]

Looks like the QO on the guy is $4M unfortunately.

[SamoanTD]

Looks like the QO on the guy is $4M unfortunately.

Wow well cross one of the list :lol.

[TD 21]

Is he a legit 6-11? I looks like he has a long ass neck like that rookie Malcom we had for a while this year.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Anthony-Randolph-1069/

According to this, he's 6-10.25 in shoes. Keep in mind, this was when he was 19. He could very well have grown since then and I'm fairly certain I heard he did grow another inch a few years ago. Even if he hasn't though, that's still good size for a PF, especially when you throw in the fact that he has a 7-3 wingspan.

He should be high on the Spurs list. In fact, short of signing Garnett or trading for Smith, their plan should be to sign Diaw using the MLE and sign Randolph using the LLE (questionable whether this would get it done). He's got a rare package of size, athleticism and ball skills and he's shown enough promise and there's enough in his advanced stats to indicate that, like other long, athletic bigs, who have been around for a while but inexplicably haven't been given much of a chance (Wright, Mahinmi), he's ready to breakout. And with how much success the Spurs have had with young players in recent seasons, I've got to think more players like Randolph will be receptive to joining them.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Why do people think that because someone meets a physical type and and is the right size means they will do well on the Spurs? There are probably 25% or less of the players in the NBA who are smart enough and have the right attitude to play for Pop. AR isn't one of those.

[TD 21]

Why do people think that because someone meets a physical type and and is the right size means they will do well on the Spurs? There are probably 25% or less of the players in the NBA who are smart enough and have the right attitude to play for Pop. AR isn't one of those.

It's funny, you knock people for essentially stereotyping, then you do the same. How do you know how smart Randolph is or whether he has the right attitude to play for Pop? He was known to be immature when he broke in, but that's not exactly uncommon at 19. Maybe in his time in the league he's grown up some, maybe he hasn't. But I've never heard a particularly bad story about him. What I have heard is, all three places he's been, he's basically been lied to about playing time.

I can't speak for others, but I'm interested because, as I said, he has ball skills to go along with his size and athleticism and also because he's shown enough promise to lead me to believe that, with steady playing time, in the right environment, he can at least be a solid contributor. Also, he's probably not going to cost more than $2, maybe $3 million for a year or two. So to me, there's strong bang for the buck potential there.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

It's funny, you knock people for essentially stereotyping, then you do the same. How do you know how smart Randolph is or whether he has the right attitude to play for Pop? He was known to be immature when he broke in, but that's not exactly uncommon at 19. Maybe in his time in the league he's grown up some, maybe he hasn't. But I've never heard a particularly bad story about him. What I have heard is, all three places he's been, he's basically been lied to about playing time.

I can't speak for others, but I'm interested because, as I said, he has ball skills to go along with his size and athleticism and also because he's shown enough promise to lead me to believe that, with steady playing time, in the right environment, he can at least be a solid contributor. Also, he's probably not going to cost more than $2, maybe $3 million for a year or two. So to me, there's strong bang for the buck potential there.

Actually, the 25% thing isn't a stereotype, it's a fact. I've been watching the Spurs long enough to say that with some certainty.

I don't care if he was lied to or not. He's a professional, being paid first round money. Play when the coach puts you in. STFU when he doesn't. Apparently, that concept has escaped young Anthony, making him ill suited to wear the S&B. He had problems with Don Nelson, a close personal friend of Pop's. I'm willing to give him a pass on that. Nelson has alienated young players before, even good ones like CWebb. What I can't figure out is why he didn't mesh with D'Antoni. AR likes to shoot jumpers and doesn't give a shit about defense. DAntoni likes bigs who can shoot, and he doesn't give a shit about defense. AR barely got off the bench. That, to me is a huge red flag. I've never heard of anyone who didn't like, or like playing for D'Antoni.

[Richie]

Randolph is due $4m next year as per his qualifying offer. If thats guaranteed, he will just stay with the Wolves because he won't get that kind of money elsewhere. If they release him, then the Bi Annual exception could be worth a shot at $1.9m

[Redshadows]

A S&T include Bonner and Randolph?

[Bruno]

The smartest way for Spur to get Randolph would through a little S&T. Blair and Byars for Randolph seems to be fine for both teams.

[stxspurs]

Who is Byars?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Who is Byars?

Exactly.

[tesseractive]

Who is Byars?

D-League guy we picked up at the end of the year with a non-guaranteed contract. There's no cap hit to cutting him, so he would just be there to make the numbers line up.

[TD 21]

Actually, the 25% thing isn't a stereotype, it's a fact. I've been watching the Spurs long enough to say that with some certainty.

I don't care if he was lied to or not. He's a professional, being paid first round money. Play when the coach puts you in. STFU when he doesn't. Apparently, that concept has escaped young Anthony, making him ill suited to wear the S&B. He had problems with Don Nelson, a close personal friend of Pop's. I'm willing to give him a pass on that. Nelson has alienated young players before, even good ones like CWebb. What I can't figure out is why he didn't mesh with D'Antoni. AR likes to shoot jumpers and doesn't give a shit about defense. DAntoni likes bigs who can shoot, and he doesn't give a shit about defense. AR barely got off the bench. That, to me is a huge red flag. I've never heard of anyone who didn't like, or like playing for D'Antoni.

Some random number you've come up with off the top of your head is a fact?

Well, you can't produce without minutes. In his last two stops, I don't recall him publicly complaining about minutes or lack thereof. Again, you're stereotyping. He didn't mesh with D'Antoni because he was injured to start that season, that group had good chemistry, they were playing in over their heads and when he returned, D'Antoni -- never a practitioner of extended rotations to begin with -- decided to continue to run the same players into the ground. A combination of bad luck and foolish coaching have been the main reasons as to why he's yet to establish himself.

[Darkwaters]

The smartest way for Spur to get Randolph would through a little S&T. Blair and Byars for Randolph seems to be fine for both teams.

Obviously this is all dependent on the Spurs actually liking Randolph...but I'd probably be fine with that trade. This team needs to move on from Bonner. We've been through enough playoffs to realize that hes definitely not the answer post-April.

[CGD]

Of all the reasonable options out, this is the player I favor getting the most. I think Minni might do the sign and trade too; for 4M, I think they'd rather pay other pieces and get a look. This guy actually address our need, which is at the 4 spot. We already have 3 centers in TD, Splitter, and Bonner on the roster, with a 4th possibly on the way with Lorbek.

[Darkwaters]

He seems to be maturing physically, puts up impressive numbers in limited mins and can defend 3/4s just what we need. I hope Pops will finally wake up and see we need youth.

:huh

I'd say we've embraced the youth movement pretty consistently over the past couple of years. Without totally blowing this thing up I'm not really sure how we do that.

[SenorSpur]

Of all the reasonable options out, this is the player I favor getting the most. I think Minni might do the sign and trade too; for 4M, I think they'd rather pay other pieces and get a look. This guy actually address our need, which is at the 4 spot. We already have 3 centers in TD, Splitter, and Bonner on the roster, with a 4th possibly on the way with Lorbek.

I wonder if the T-Pups would be willing to to take Bonner in exchange for Randolph? Makes me salivate just to imagine it. Probably too good to be true too.

[-21-]

I wonder if the T-Pups would be willing to to take Bonner in exchange for Randolph? Makes me salivate just to imagine it. Probably too good to be true too.

David Kahn is their GM right? :lol

[Duncan2177]

I would trade Blair and Boner for Randolph.

[tesseractive]

I would trade Blair and Boner for Randolph.

I'm pretty sure the Spurs would happily trade Blair and Bonner together for a trade exception.

[CGD]

Problem with bonner is that he's not even a expiring contract yet, so a team has to actually agree to take on more money. My bet is that Bonner is amnestied to open up a little more cap room, if the spurs can convince TD to take a little less than 10m next year. Then all the sudden spurs have 3-5m to play with. Red rocket goes to his country and finishes his career in Toronto.

[Darkwaters]

I'm really unsure if Bonner will get amnestied or not. He was damn effective in the regular season and then worthless in the post-season. I could honestly see the Spurs going either way on this one based on past history.

[MR-Clutch]

I just feel like using the amnesty on bonner isn't worth it. His contract is to small.What if the FO makes a mother Jefferson sized mistake? Better to be safe than sorry.

[Spursfanfromafar]

If we can't get Lorbek or KG, then we should somehow get him via sign and trade of Blair and fillers.

[ace3g]

SJAX and AR both played for the Warriors in 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons. So maybe there is some familiarity there.

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Article back in 2009, talks about how after season he headed back to Dallas and after watching Spurs/Mavs playoff game, motivated him to get in better shape and work on his game.

If just watching those 2 teams motivated him, imagine if he was on the Spurs roster and saw the work ethic of the players from that perspective.


After the Warriors' season ended, rookie forward Anthony Randolph went home to Dallas to take some time off. He was determined to relax for a while. That is, until he made a mistake.

He attended a playoff game, a first-round matchup between the Dallas Mavericks and San Antonio Spurs.

"It (ticked) me off," Randolph said. "The atmosphere, I want to play in that bad. I want to get there."

His break lasted a week and a half, and he hated it. Driven by a desire to experience the postseason as a player, Randolph began working out furiously and hasn't stopped since.

Remember some seven months ago, when Randolph was drawing the ire of coach Don Nelson for his poor attitude and work ethic? That dude is long gone. Randolph — who embodies much of the franchise's hopes — has bought in to the adage that great players are made in the offseason.

"The good ones, that's how they become really, really good," Warriors[..]istant coach Keith Smart said. "They put aside everything else that is going on in their lives and focus on basketball and how they can develop. ... This is the time when you start to prepare to do even better than what you did last year, and he's doing that."

Randolph started doing cardio work and practicing his shooting while in Dallas with a goal of improving his midrange jumper. He's been in Oakland for about three weeks now, practically living at the Warriors facility. He works out three
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times a day — morning, afternoon and evening — part of which he does solo.

In addition to his jumper, Randolph is working to get stronger, develop his footwork and improve his efficiency.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/randolph-bigger-vows-better-1256072/ (would have posted original link but the Oakland Tribune site doesn't have the article posted anymore or in archive).

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Problem with bonner is that he's not even a expiring contract yet, so a team has to actually agree to take on more money. My bet is that Bonner is amnestied to open up a little more cap room, if the spurs can convince TD to take a little less than 10m next year. Then all the sudden spurs have 3-5m to play with. Red rocket goes to his country and finishes his career in Toronto.

Actually, he is. His final year at $3.9 is unguaranteed according to Shamsports salary listings, usually taken as gospel on this board.

[yavozerb]

This guy has been talked about evolving into a good player since he arrived in the league and every year he underachieves. Either his work ethic sucks or his skills just are not that high, spurs need to pass on this guy..

[CGD]

Actually, he is. His final year at $3.9 is unguaranteed according to Shamsports salary listings, usually taken as gospel on this board.

Per the same site, he is assured to get 1M in the last year if not signed by a certain date (hover over his name on the Sham salary listing). Still some savings to be had though.

[SenorSpur]

David Kahn is their GM right? :lol

That's true.

I forgot about that wild card factor.

It may not be as far-fetched as I thought. After all, Khan is the same GM that used three straight draft picks to take PGs in the same draft, a few years back. :lol

[freetiago]

minnesota has way to many PF/C rotting on their bench
darko/randolph/beasley/williams

i actually think they would try to deal williams
hes seen as a tweener bust
but he does has good enough size to play PF in todays undersized nba and he has athleticism
he also has a decent mid range shot
he could be what the spurs are looking for
i know minnesota needs some SG/SF which spurs have to many to count

[Russo21]

Lengthy motherfucker. Massive length. Skinny n pissweak. He'd be worth a shot for cheap. Has a high ceiling.

[ace3g]

Timberwolves PR ‏@Twolves_PR

#Twolves will not be making qualifying offers to Michael Beasley & Anthony Randolph, making them unrestricted free agents.

[loveforthegame]

I hope the Spurs haven't put all their eggs into the Diaw and Lorbek nests.

A lot of interesting names that are available.

[T Park]

Ive yet to this day understood the drooling over this guy.

[Darkwaters]

Ive yet to this day understood the drooling over this guy.

:tongue

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Randolph is nothing special, but the Spurs are much better off
with him, rather than Bonner or Blair..

He blocks shots, & he at least has the size to possibly be a good defender
for the Spurs. I don't think it unlikely for the Spurs to offer him
a little something.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i think the wolves have given up on him and last season no.2 pick...no way u payin him tobe a bench player

[SenorSpur]

Randolph is nothing special, but the Spurs are much better off
with him, rather than Bonner or Blair..

^This

[CGD]

dang, in a way it would have been better to be able to trade for this guys using Neal/Blair. Makes it harder now that he is a UFA.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

dang, in a way it would have been better to be able to trade for this guys using Neal/Blair. Makes it harder now that he is a UFA.

?? No it doesn't. All that that failure to make a QO means is that they can't match if he want's to go to another team as a FA. They can still sign and trade him to a team he wants to go to if a deal is reached. Hell, they can still re-sign him if they want. They just have less leverage without the ability to match offers.

[timvp]

Meh, I don't want Randolph. Looks like he'll go down as this decade's Stromile Swift. He admittedly has tantalizing ability but I've seen nothing to suggest he's going to put it all together.

His only chance for career success is if he inks with a bad team who can give him big minutes.

... and that won't be the Spurs.

[SenorSpur]

Meh, I don't want Randolph. Looks like he'll go down as this decade's Stromile Swift. He admittedly has tantalizing ability but I've seen nothing to suggest he's going to put it all together.

His only chance for career success is if he inks with a bad team who can give him big minutes.

... and that won't be the Spurs.

If Deron Williams spurns the Mavs, and with Mahimni on his way out the door in Dallas, perhaps Randolph will accept the Mavs advances and he can get all the minutes he wants there.

[szkorhetz]

basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222111/Anthony_Randolph_Has_Meetings_Scheduled_With_Hawks _Mavericks Mavericks
....

[rascal]

I like him more than Diaw. A legit big with athleticism.

[jermaine]

Meh, I don't want Randolph. Looks like he'll go down as this decade's Stromile Swift. He admittedly has tantalizing ability but I've seen nothing to suggest he's going to put it all together.

His only chance for career success is if he inks with a bad team who can give him big minutes.

... and that won't be the Spurs.

Sorry Mr Timvp I normally look at your post an say your right on point. But following last yrs meltdown in the paint, I just want no! Can he rebound, can he dunk, block shots, or defend better then any spur not named Tim Duncan. If so, sign his ass up! I want tyrus Thomas but he'll do.

[MR-Clutch]

Give him blairs minutes. I seriously doubt hes worse.

[tesseractive]

Give him blairs minutes. I seriously doubt hes worse.
By the time the playoffs rolled around, Blair didn't have any minutes. :lol

[wildbill2u]

Everyone has been bitching about the lack of defense and more specifically the lack of a mobile and hostile defensive presence in the paint. If AR looks at defense as something other folks do, then he probably isn't what we're looking for.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Free agent forward Anthony Randolph sitting with Nuggets brass at summer league game vs Warriors. DEN and ATL high on Randolph, source said

[CGD]

Since this guy became an UFA it'll be impossible to get him unfortunately.

[sventhedog]

he is better than blair but i think he would asks for more than what the spurs could offer.

[ace3g]

Nuggets sign Anthony Randolph, amnesty Chris Andersen

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_21097577/nuggets-cut-chris-birdman-andersen

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Nuggets signed Wolves free agent forward Anthony Randolph to a three-year deal paying $6 million, source tells Yahoo! Sports.

[timvp]

That's a pretty damn good gamble for the Nuggets. A McGee+Randolph frontline would be scary if they ever figure out how to play.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Nugs recruited Anthony Randolph hard flying him to Vegas, room & board & sitting him in stands with Karl, players, Masai & Kroenke. Good fit

[racm]

Nuggs look nice

Might get out of the first round even

[CGD]

George Karl should be able to focus the guy. Quietly, the Nugs are looking better and better.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Good pick up for the Nuggets at that price. I wonder if Karl will be able to teach him how to play? I thought Pop and Tim would be the perfect guys to get through to him, but Karl would be second on that list of coaches with a chance to turn ARand's career around.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

The Nuggets are the like the crazy old lady that takes in stray cats. :lol