2012 Free Agent: Ryan Anderson

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/media/act_ryan_anderson.jpg
Born: May 6, 1988
Height: 6-10 / 2.08
Weight: 240 lbs. / 108.9 kg.
College: California
Years Pro: 3

Info (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ryan_anderson/career_stats.html)

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Orlando RFA Ryan Anderson likely won't re-sign with Magic and will be moved in a sign-and-trade, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[Kuestmaster]

Bonner + Blair + Joseph + Cash posts in 3, 2...

[DesignatedT]

Bonner + Blair for Anderson. But only if they throw in a pick also.

[Mel_13]

Bonner:
Regular Season PER: 14.2
Playoffs PER: 7.6

Anderson:
Regular Season PER: 18.4
Playoffs PER: 7.8

DO NOT WANT.

[Budkin]

I follow the Magic and Anderson's been great for them.

[flipspursfan]

Bonner:
Regular Season PER: 14.2
Playoffs PER: 7.6

Anderson:
Regular Season PER: 18.4
Playoffs PER: 7.8

DO NOT WANT.

Plus they are players in the same mold. One thing that differs with RA is that he can also bang in the inside. A trait Matt Bonner would have to sell his soul for it to be gotten.

[Mel_13]

I follow the Magic and Anderson's been great for them.

Until the playoffs start.

[AFBlue]

IIRC, Spurs were high on Anderson when he came out of college. That playoff PER is definitely worrisome though.

[AFBlue]

The other thing is that he'll likely command a big salary coming off a "most improved" season. Spurs should be smarter than to "buy high" on this guy.

[Mel_13]

I posted this in the free agency thread:


And take a look at this. There have been 908 players in NBA history who have played at least 400 minutes in the playoffs. Now place them in order by FG%. As one would expect our Red Rocket comes in at a dreadful 832nd out of 908.

Anderson is 905th of 908.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=Y&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=400&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=fg_pct

[Darkwaters]

I posted this in the free agency thread:


And take a look at this. There have been 908 players in NBA history who have played at least 400 minutes in the playoffs. Now place them in order by FG%. As one would expect our Red Rocket comes in at a dreadful 832nd out of 908.

Anderson is 905th of 908.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=Y&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=400&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=fg_pct

Wow, thats pretty damning.

[baseline bum]

Bonner:
Regular Season PER: 14.2
Playoffs PER: 7.6

Anderson:
Regular Season PER: 18.4
Playoffs PER: 7.8

DO NOT WANT.

This. Anderson is by far the most overrated player on this board, and I never could see what anyone liked about him. It's funny that it was the trade Parker, start Hill crew that seemed to be so into Anderson too.

[baseline bum]

I posted this in the free agency thread:


And take a look at this. There have been 908 players in NBA history who have played at least 400 minutes in the playoffs. Now place them in order by FG%. As one would expect our Red Rocket comes in at a dreadful 832nd out of 908.

Anderson is 905th of 908.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=Y&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=400&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=fg_pct

Haha, so this great shooter is only ahead of Chris Duhon, Lindsey Hunter, and Joe Ellis all time? :rollin

[DesignatedT]

Anderson's going to get like 8-9M/yr isn't he?

[Mel_13]

Report: Hornets in talks for sign-and-trade for Ryan Anderson

https://twitter.com/EyeOnBasketball

:lol

Rivers, Gordon, and Anderson. Unibrow won't be getting many touches.

[timtonymanu]

Do. Not. Want.

He's a slightly better version of Matt Bonner which isn't saying much. Besides, I would rather have Diaw, who is the more realistic signing.

[benefactor]

Yup...headed to N.O.

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
I'm told New Orleans Hornets will acquire Ryan Anderson via sign-and-trade deal with Orlando. Deal is on verge of completion today

[DesignatedT]

I guess N.O will be giving up Jack, Amino and Henry or something like that?

[ace3g]

Jimmy Smith ‏@JimmySmithtp

League source says #Hornets acquiring SF Ryan Anderson from #Magic in sign and trade for Gustavo Ayon.

[DesignatedT]

Just Ayon? wow.

[Mel_13]

Hennigan's blowing it up in Orlando. Would rather have the trade exception than a mediocre player.

[DesignatedT]

Maybe they are getting ready to unload Howard?

[DPG21920]

That is the benefit of having cap space. As bad as Anderson has been in the playoffs, he is still a solid regular season guy. But I think Ayon is a solid player - that is a good trade for ORL IMO if you are blowing it up and rebuilding. Cap Space + Ayon is solid.

[sananspursfan21]

glad new orleans is getting him. guy cant breathe in the playoffs

[timvp]

Damn, Ayon is a great get in a sign-and-trade. I don't think Anderson is even that much better than Ayon.

I don't really understand this trade from the Hornets end. Anderson is useful in spacing the floor but who is he spacing the court for in N.O.? Unibrow doesn't seem like he'll become a dominant post player anytime soon. I'd think Ayon fits better next to Davis, especially as a rookie.

I wonder if the Hornets did this with the idea of letting Phoenix have Gordon. I guess this would be one way to replace his scoring...

[baseline bum]

Do. Not. Want.

He's a slightly better version of Matt Bonner which isn't saying much. Besides, I would rather have Diaw, who is the more realistic signing.

Honestly, I think he's a worse version of Bonner. New Orleans is making moves almost as stupid as last year when they tried to trade CP3 for Scola, Odom, and Martin.

[Mel_13]

Can't wait to see the contract details. Will almost certainly start north of 8M per.

[baseline bum]

As bad as Anderson has been in the playoffs, he is still a solid regular season guy.

So it's a double whammy: not only do you get shameful playoff production, but also get a worse draft pick.

[DPG21920]

Sure - but purely from a skillset/production standpoint - they got him cheaper than "the market" would normally be.

Most of us know that from a value/impact perspective, Anderson isn't great, but that is not how the NBA works. NO got him for a good deal in a bubble.

[baseline bum]

Can't wait to see the contract details. Will almost certainly start north of 8M per.

$8 million a year long-term for Bonner. :rollin

The Angels/Spirit/Voodoo would be better off with the Heineken Looter as GM over Demps.

[Mel_13]

NO got him for a good deal in a bubble.

First of all, I love it every time you do that bubble thing.

Second, even in your bubble, how can say it was a good deal until you know the contract details?

[benefactor]

First of all, I love it every time you do that bubble thing.

Ha...I was just thinking about how much he uses that reference.

[DPG21920]

First of all, I love it every time you do that bubble thing.

Second, even in your bubble, how can say it was a good deal until you know the contract details?

I wasn't talking about the contract details - I was talking about the assets they had to give up in the trade (probably was not clear about that) to get him and nothing else (hence the "bubble").

:lol I said I like the deal for ORL regardless first - I was just doing an aside that he was pretty cheap (from an asset perspective) for NO initially.

[DPG21920]

Ha...I was just thinking about how much he uses that reference.

Don't burst my bubble fools (don't know why I am doing that more -it's something I never used to say).

[Mel_13]

I wasn't talking about the contract details - I was talking about the assets they had to give up in the trade (probably was not clear about that) to get him and nothing else (hence the "bubble").

To me, it's all about the contract. Anderson was a free agent and Orlando was unlikely to match a rich offer sheet. Ayon was the price they paid to remove all doubt. The real price of acquiring Anderson will be his contract. And when we see 4/32 or 4/40 then it will be a very bad deal for the Hornets, IMO.

[DPG21920]

To me, it's all about the contract. Anderson was a free agent and Orlando was unlikely to match a rich offer sheet. Ayon was the price they paid to remove all doubt. The real price of acquiring Anderson will be his contract. And when we see 4/32 or 4/40 then it will be a very bad deal for the Hornets, IMO.

I agree - for me to assess the deal entirely, we need to see the contract.

But I was speaking more to the point that if we all were sitting around and discussing packages to ORL for a S&T, most of us would have put the initial price (taking the contract details out of it) to more than just Ayon (although I like Ayon a lot). That's all I was referring to.

But, ya, he is about to get vastly overpaid (he should be no more than a 5-6m a year player from an impact perspective, but will get at least what you mentioned).

[Mel_13]

sources say that trade talks with the Magic have progressed quickly once Orlando officials decided that they would not want to match an offer to Anderson expected to pay him an annual salary in the $8 million range.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8141333/2012-nba-free-agency-new-orleans-hornets-deal-ryan-anderson-orlando-magic-sources-say

[DPG21920]

Makes sense - his regular season numbers, plus his age put him in at least that range when you look at the contracts for other bigs right now (which is silly and the price of big men is way out of line for the talent in the league).

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

The New Orleans Hornets agreement with Ryan Anderson is four years, approximately $36 million, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[DPG21920]

Approx 36, means it's more like 30-32 with bonuses to get him to 36. So even if it's 8M a year guaranteed, that is still a hefty contract. Better hope he continues to rebound at least at the level he has been, because that is what keeps his value north of Bonner.

[baseline bum]

Oh my god, $9 million a year for one the worst postseason performers of my lifetime. All of a sudden the Rockets' deal with Asik sounds really reasonable.

[racm]

But but he looks like Peja! :lol

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Jeff Green got $10M per year. So much for the owners not being as stupid with the new CBA. Same as it ever was.

[racm]

You can fix the rules but you can't fix intelligence. :lol

[Budkin]

I posted this in the free agency thread:


And take a look at this. There have been 908 players in NBA history who have played at least 400 minutes in the playoffs. Now place them in order by FG%. As one would expect our Red Rocket comes in at a dreadful 832nd out of 908.

Anderson is 905th of 908.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=Y&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=400&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=fg_pct

Ok nm :lol

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Bonner, at more than twice the price.