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Blue-Lightning
06-07-2012, 09:25 PM
Thought you guys would "enjoy":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjxFgXse5oo&feature=youtube_gdata

Creation88
06-07-2012, 09:31 PM
this pisses me the fuck off

DarrinS
06-07-2012, 09:36 PM
We got calls our way too. The only calls that really pissed me off we're the tech on Jack and Westbrooks tomahawk chop on Leonard.

Either way, the better team won. Get over it.

spurs2112
06-07-2012, 09:38 PM
You forgot the foul they called on Ginobili when he was guarding Westbrook. Westbrook missed the jumper and Leonard got the rebound then they blew the whistle on Ginobili.

Darius Bieber
06-07-2012, 09:41 PM
Spurs were the better team.

Spurs9
06-07-2012, 09:41 PM
wtf?

Blue-Lightning
06-07-2012, 09:43 PM
I didn't forget any... just couldn't get any beyond what are in there. Too much text goes against the strength of the video. Wish I could put the entire fourth quarter breakdown in, but I don't have the game file.

phxspurfan
06-07-2012, 09:44 PM
The NBA doesn't like the idea of a challenge system. I think it's been proposed before. They think it'll slow the game down.

DarrinS
06-07-2012, 09:47 PM
For the record, refs didn't make Pop call I'll-timed timeouts and make weird subs. The refs also didn't shoot any jumpers for Durant.

ginobili fan
06-07-2012, 09:47 PM
yeah but it doesn't go as far as the laker-king "thing" at least.
In hindsight, some refs calls were maybe the turning points of the game but still that doesn't explain our bad 3rd quarter.
If only we've managed well this, we should have been waiting the 7 tomorrow night...oh my...

coyotes_geek
06-07-2012, 09:52 PM
We lost. It sucks. No excuses. Move on.

KaiRMD1
06-07-2012, 09:53 PM
Eh, I'll still give OKC their credit but the refs calls just marred that game. Either way, good luck, the Sonics are rolling over in their graves right now.

jon123spurs
06-07-2012, 09:54 PM
It that doesn't prove that the game was fixed then you must be a real dumbass. I mean the video shows it all. No sugar coating that game was Fixed! No doubt about it. It all comes down to the head of the nba Mr. Stern king of shit himself. He wants queen James vs Mr. Doo doo jump for the ratings it would bring. Its sad because the spurs have to get screwed over time and time again.

Richie
06-07-2012, 09:55 PM
The charge on Ginobili and the no call on Leonard are just disgusting calls

ploto
06-07-2012, 09:56 PM
Any fan of any team can put together a video of calls they think went against them. Get over it.

Richie
06-07-2012, 09:56 PM
It that doesn't prove that the game was fixed then you must be a real dumbass. I mean the video shows it all. No sugar coating that game was Fixed! No doubt about it. It all comes down to the head of the nba Mr. Stern king of shit himself. He wants queen James vs Mr. Doo doo jump for the ratings it would bring. Its sad because the spurs have to get screwed over time and time again.

Its not fixed. The refs simply swallowed thier whistles under the pressure of the home crowd. Terrible, terrible officiating, but not fixed

mFFL03
06-07-2012, 09:56 PM
Thanks for posting, I didn't get to watch the game and I was hoping to catch some highlights during my lunch while watching sportscenter. There 10 stories in a row about the Heat game. Not Heat/Boston or Boston/Heat...but the Heat game.

No mention of the Spurs/OKC Western Conference Finals game. Sickening.

thispego
06-07-2012, 09:57 PM
We got calls our way too. The only calls that really pissed me off we're the tech on Jack and Westbrooks tomahawk chop on Leonard.

Either way, the better team won. Get over it.

:lmao

spurs1990
06-07-2012, 09:58 PM
I'm really impressed with Kawhi not showing even a hint of displeasure on that no-call after being punched in the head.

If it's true that SJax said nothing to their bench then that tech was a crime tbh.

Lastly, the Harden flop on Manu single handedly has caused me to renege on my digust with Artest elbowing his dumb ass. What a clown.

Oh well, they'll get the asterisk for this game and the lockout season.

DeadlyDynasty
06-07-2012, 10:06 PM
Any fan of any team can put together a video of calls they think went against them. Get over it.

ffadicted
06-07-2012, 10:07 PM
Let it go boys

thOOdee
06-07-2012, 10:12 PM
just shared

spurs2112
06-07-2012, 10:18 PM
For the record, refs didn't make Pop call I'll-timed timeouts and make weird subs. The refs also didn't shoot any jumpers for Durant.

That's not the point people are trying to make about the officiating. Everyone knows "the refs didn't shoot jumpers for Durant" but they can give and take away points. The tech on Jackson, the two offensive fouls on Ginobili etc, all cost the Spurs points. There was a stretch in the second half where OKC scored like 12 or so points on 1 or 2 FG's and the rest where FT's. Bad officiating happens all the time in all sports. It's just one of those "if the shoe was on the other foot" situations.

DMX7
06-07-2012, 10:25 PM
The foul on Leonard was an all-time bad call. He literally got mauled.

Thomas82
06-07-2012, 10:26 PM
Couldn't the Spurs, or any team that gets screwed over by the officials file a grievance against the league for it? I really don't know how this works....just an innocent question.

Namundy
06-07-2012, 10:26 PM
Yea, some good points made in that video... but we lost game 5 at home. We played poorly and if you didn't think Kevin Durant was going to get his free throws you're crazy. He's a 6'9 shooting guard that weighs 130 lbs, if you touch him he's going to get the call. No point in agonizing over this shit. LeBron vs Durant in the Finals will be a free throw fest. Everyone will get their great finals match up and we will watch hero ball and monkey ball for 7 games until someone (LeBron) finally chokes.

Johnny RIngo
06-07-2012, 10:28 PM
We lost. It sucks. No excuses. Move on.

Agreed. Making these types of vids puts us in that desperate, whiny Kings/Suns/Mavs fan territory. Which is ridiculous considering how successful the Spurs have been the past decade.

Blue-Lightning
06-07-2012, 11:07 PM
The Kings have every right to whine about the 2001 playoffs. That was evidence number one that the league picks winners when it needs ratings.

The point of the video is to get a better check and balance on calls - replays, challenges, etc. Maybe an additional ref if needed... whatever it takes.

DarrinS
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
Agreed. Making these types of vids puts us in that desperate, whiny Kings/Suns/Mavs fan territory. Which is ridiculous considering how successful the Spurs have been the past decade.

And it takes away from how amazing the Thunder were in this series.

SA210
06-08-2012, 12:58 AM
Corrupt sons of bitches

Spurs21Fan4Ever
06-08-2012, 01:21 AM
I think Stern does have his hand in big games, he wants OKC in the Finals, Durant is very popular, look at what he did during the off-season. Getting publicity for going off in Rucker Park, people love Durant. Three time scoring champ. He and LeBron are probably the most popular players in the NBA, Heat and OKC is what Stern wants. So I personally think he tells refs to influence games but not too much, just favor a team, but don't rig it. Call me crazy, I probably am, but I've watched enough NBA over the years and have seen this so many times, I just can't think refs are fans of certain teams and want to help them, I think Stern gets involved. He wants money, he could care less about basketball.

Spurs21Fan4Ever
06-08-2012, 01:22 AM
There were a few calls you missed. Midway through the 4th, Durant had the ball and Leonard played picture perfect defense, but Durant airballed and the refs and Stern can't have their precious Durant looking bad on the big stage, so there was a really late whistle and Durant got two free throws. So many times Durant made bad plays, but refs refused to let him look bad so they called a foul.

Legacy
06-08-2012, 01:23 AM
It is what it is. :(

Spurs21Fan4Ever
06-08-2012, 01:35 AM
Haha I just posted that video on my Facebook and a bandwagon Heat fan and Spurs hater posted this comment.

"about the only legit gripe on that replay was the Parker foul. Ginobli was STILL MOVING when he went to set that screen after the pass. Last time I checked, you don't set a screen in a lunge position."

Man I don't know who to blame more, Stern or idiot fans all over the country.

blizz
06-08-2012, 01:45 AM
We got calls our way too. The only calls that really pissed me off we're the tech on Jack and Westbrooks tomahawk chop on Leonard.

Either way, the better team won. Get over it.

Fuck you

trufan24
06-08-2012, 03:44 AM
clearly an illegal screen by Ginobli, no issue there....you need only to pause the vid at 2:19 to see that huge gap between Ginobli and Harden from when Ginobli passed the ball to Leonard....he should have stood still soon as he passed it if he wanted to set a screen, but then him and Harden wouldnt even have collided had he done so

mudyez
06-08-2012, 04:09 AM
We need to get over it!

We were the better team and the NBA robbed us. It's not like they are doing it the first time (imagine beening a Kings fan!).

mudyez
06-08-2012, 04:14 AM
I think Stern does have his hand in big games, he wants OKC in the Finals, Durant is very popular, look at what he did during the off-season. Getting publicity for going off in Rucker Park, people love Durant. Three time scoring champ. He and LeBron are probably the most popular players in the NBA, Heat and OKC is what Stern wants. So I personally think he tells refs to influence games but not too much, just favor a team, but don't rig it. Call me crazy, I probably am, but I've watched enough NBA over the years and have seen this so many times, I just can't think refs are fans of certain teams and want to help them, I think Stern gets involved. He wants money, he could care less about basketball.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if people in 30 year would call it the "Stern era" like people do with the MLB "steroid era".

But in our own interest, that hopefully wont be the case, coz all of our championships would get an *

dunkman
06-08-2012, 07:38 AM
OKC was the better team trough the series, that's true, but they would have lost the the game 6 under normal circumstances. Not sure about game 7, the big three would have been tired.

OKC erased the lead in the third by their own. The Spurs were trying to make a run in the 4-th but the refs didn't allowed that.

Austin_Toros
06-08-2012, 07:50 AM
We got calls our way too. The only calls that really pissed me off we're the tech on Jack and Westbrooks tomahawk chop on Leonard.

Either way, the better team won. Get over it.


The better team may have won.... but who's to say they should have?

Some controversial calls played a pivotal role in determining the series.

DarrinS
06-08-2012, 07:54 AM
Fuck you

:cry

coyotes_geek
06-08-2012, 08:07 AM
Couldn't the Spurs, or any team that gets screwed over by the officials file a grievance against the league for it? I really don't know how this works....just an innocent question.

The league will hear grievances, but only when there's a question about how a rule was applied. So basically the process works like this:

Team: "The ref called a charge and it wasn't a charge."
League: "Tough shit."

Team: "The ref incorrectly called a clear path foul on a play that did not meet the criteria in the rulebook."
League: "You're right. Tough shit."

flipspursfan
06-08-2012, 08:07 AM
get over it guys. we lost period. we move on

Pocket Hippo
06-08-2012, 09:10 AM
There were a myriad of things that occurred that caused us to lose, not just the officiating.

But to say the officials didn't have a hand in it is just plain stupid.
Some of these guys on this thread sound like baseball apologists - "we don't use replay in baseball because the human element of bad calls is part of the game"
GTFO

Jumi
06-08-2012, 10:05 AM
Maybe the league will make it up to us when we suck with a nice draft pick! KD is the new face of the league, the whole good guy vs bad guy angle with Lebron. Plus KD's new movie needs to be plugged during the Finals! The league knows how to return a favor, I'll give'em that much!!!

PublicOption
06-08-2012, 01:00 PM
In game 4 I watched the replay on NBA tV and there was one sequence where neal got hit 3 times near the face by harden and the refs looking right at them did nothing. He even got hit when he past the ball.

The NBA has fucked teams before like this, but not 4x champs, and someone of Tim Duncan's caliber.

The_Worlds_finest
06-08-2012, 01:16 PM
In game 4 I watched the replay on NBA tV and there was one sequence where neal got hit 3 times near the face by harden and the refs looking right at them did nothing. He even got hit when he past the ball.

The NBA has fucked teams before like this, but not 4x champs, and someone of Tim Duncan's caliber.

Oh gawd why cant you be happy the nba is going plant the seeds for the next generation of bandwagon dick riders? I am going out to get my Ultimate NBA fan pack jersey and flat hat set of Both Home and Away shirts of Harden Westbrook, Durant AND James and Wade shirts. BUt wait it gets better; Depending on who is the home team I will wear their shirt, changing into each three for the first half. Depending on who is winning in the fourth, I will change the jersey if necessary. So ultimately not only will I be a fan of the winning team, ill look like a badass on the street. Thus being the Ultimate Nba Fan!!!!

pad300
06-08-2012, 02:34 PM
The league will hear grievances, but only when there's a question about how a rule was applied. So basically the process works like this:

Team: "The ref called a charge and it wasn't a charge."
League: "Tough shit."

Team: "The ref incorrectly called a clear path foul on a play that did not meet the criteria in the rulebook."
League: "You're right. Tough shit."

Yeah, that's about how it goes, see the Brent Barry mugging by Fisher with the game on the line ... "Oh, we're so sorry we fucked you out a chance to tie up a critical playoff game. Our bad. Too bad we will do nothing about it."

Budkin
06-08-2012, 03:05 PM
The foul on Leonard was an all-time bad call. He literally got mauled.

Same exact shit that happened to Rondo in Game 2. Unacceptable.

Spurs Brazil
06-08-2012, 04:10 PM
We lost. It sucks. No excuses. Move on.

skulls138
06-09-2012, 01:23 AM
What about Duncan's clean block on Durant?

What about that BS out of bounds call when the ref who was right their didnt know who it was out on and deferred to the ref who was on the other side of the court, who gave it to the Thunder, though I thought it was Spurs ball.

We probably wouldve won that game if the correct calls had been made, I really believe that.