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TDomination
06-07-2012, 11:07 PM
If OKC had not acquired Derek Fisher, would they still have beaten the Spurs?
Would they have made the WCF?

I'm so tired of him, i wish he would retire already!

DarrinS
06-07-2012, 11:08 PM
Yes

shorttotry
06-07-2012, 11:10 PM
If OKC had not acquired Derek Fisher, would they still have beaten the Spurs?
Would they have made the WCF?

I'm so tired of him, i wish he would retire already!

Dumb question. Yes, says the Magic 8 Ball.

Richie
06-07-2012, 11:11 PM
Thier role players were all hitting shots. If not Fisher, then Sefolosha or Cook

DarrinS
06-07-2012, 11:12 PM
Thier role players were all hitting shots. If not Fisher, then Sefolosha or Cook

This

TDomination
06-07-2012, 11:13 PM
Idk, last year they were close but adding someone thats been there and done that makes a big difference mentally.

Like when we added Elie in 1999, he gave us that killer instinct.

i honestly don't think they win the series without him.

bulakenyo
06-07-2012, 11:15 PM
I think Derek was also good with helping with the scouting reports and individual player tendencies of the big 3.

He has more inside info and head to head experience with those 3, than all the Thunder combined.

It helped considerably.

KDtrey5
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
So now Derek Fisher is the reason the Spurs lost? :lol you guys are something else

100%duncan
06-07-2012, 11:20 PM
So now Derek Fisher is the reason the Spurs lost? :lol you guys are something else

Welcome to the club, you fuck.

TDomination
06-07-2012, 11:23 PM
So now Derek Fisher is the reason the Spurs lost? :lol you guys are something else

Not the sole reason, obviously without Durant Harden Westbrook the Thunder don't go very far.

But I havn't seen him talked about very much. I saw one article in the Express News after we had gone up 2-0 how Fisher was the one who had been in that position before. That he is saying he knows they can beat us.

Besides that article, I hadn't heard much about him in the media which surprises me. I think his contribution to the team is extremely underrated.

KDtrey5
06-07-2012, 11:30 PM
Not the sole reason, obviously without Durant Harden Westbrook the Thunder don't go very far.

But I havn't seen him talked about very much. I saw one article in the Express News after we had gone up 2-0 how Fisher was the one who had been in that position before. That he is saying he knows they can beat us.

Besides that article, I hadn't heard much about him in the media which surprises me. I think his contribution to the team is extremely underrated.

In my opinion when Scott Brooks put Thabo Sefolosha on Tony parker that sealed the series for the Thunder. Parker never been the same since he couldn't have the benefit of exploiting Westbrook. I expect no difference with Thabo on Wade:hat

TDomination
06-07-2012, 11:39 PM
In my opinion when Scott Brooks put Thabo Sefolosha on Tony parker that sealed the series for the Thunder. Parker never been the same since he couldn't have the benefit of exploiting Westbrook. I expect no difference with Thabo on Wade:hat

Great move. Could not get ball movement going like it was in game 2 until game 6. I honestly would not be surprised if Fisher had anything to do with that. He saw firsthand that if you stop Parker, you stop the Spurs. (see 2004)

jesterbobman
06-08-2012, 10:36 AM
They would have killed us worse if Maynor was healthy, and without Fisher in the playoffs they probably just have Harden as PG in the second units(He basically was anyway) and have Thabo or Cook as the Other Small in Fishers place.

hotsauce0987
06-08-2012, 11:02 AM
When does that A hole retire?

dbestpro
06-08-2012, 11:06 AM
The better question is if OKC does not win the foul call game would they win finals?

This is the first time that I can remember that a team that wins by the line during the regular season wins by the line in the playoffs. The playoff calls have not affected this team, yet. I suppost that's why so many were cheering for the Celtics in OKC. They know where their bread is buttered and Lebron just might steal the butter knives.

Durant 35
06-08-2012, 01:10 PM
If our backup point guard maynor hadnt of gone down with a season ending injury we may not of went for him

Beaverfuzz
06-08-2012, 03:09 PM
Fisher had pretty much no effect on the series.

Budkin
06-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Yes. We had no defense.

SamoanTD
06-08-2012, 03:41 PM
Dgaf series is over.

slick'81
06-08-2012, 04:43 PM
yes without ibaka no

didnt the spurs pass on fish because of mills>!

dunkman
06-08-2012, 05:38 PM
I guess no, there is a reason he was in the rotation and 3 of the OKC wins were close games.

Spurtacus
06-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Every shot he made was a dagger in my heart. But OKC would have still won without him.

ducks
06-09-2012, 01:12 AM
no


fisher said he played on a team down 2-0 and won
he was very clutch when it mattered and had nice confidence
heck he shut down splitter

DMC
06-09-2012, 11:40 AM
Yes. Fisher had nothing to do with it. Imagine Gary Neal on that team. KD and Westbrook draw so much attention anyone can get wide open looks outside, and the paint is full of Ibaka and Perkins, so there's no help out there.

Splits
02-25-2013, 02:42 AM
Harden sucks compared to him, tbh.

therealtruth
02-25-2013, 08:31 AM
The only reason he killed us is because Gary Neal can't defend a chair. When you're letting the slowest point guard in the league get open shots of you then you know you're defense is pretty bad. The irony is I thought that we had finally found a good matchup for Neal (similar height and slow) and he was totally outmatched.

UZER
02-25-2013, 08:45 AM
This effing cockroach cherry picking his way onto championship caliber teams using his daughter as an excuse.

He gets the Artest treatment on defense in the 4th qtr. He can push, pull, grab, hold, shove the screener fighting through picks, push people in the back on rebounds and doesn't get called for sh**!

So sick of this dude already.

Uriel
02-25-2013, 08:51 AM
But, but, but...we're 3rd in defensive efficiency now!

Mel_13
02-25-2013, 09:54 AM
The only reason he killed us is because Gary Neal can't defend a chair. When you're letting the slowest point guard in the league get open shots of you then you know you're defense is pretty bad. The irony is I thought that we had finally found a good matchup for Neal (similar height and slow) and he was totally outmatched.

More real truth?

In the 4 OKC wins, these are Fisher's stats:

FG: 8-24 .333
3PT: 2-11 .182

TampaDude
02-25-2013, 10:14 AM
Ibaka shooting 11 of 11, a fluke performance that will never be repeated, ever, turned that series.

I'm so glad Miami spanked the Thunder. BTW, they probably would have spanked us, too, because we had no D last season.

This time, it's different. We can and will beat the Heat in the finals. Spurs in 6.

EricB
02-25-2013, 12:28 PM
IMO no. He was a big reason they won game 5 and 6.