Kevin Durant is the best basketball player in the world

[benefactor]

Nothing left to debate tbh.

[lefty]

He is good

[pass1st]

4-6 mores games left to debate

If he outplays LBJ the series, then it'll be evident

[HarlemHeat37]

He outplayed Lebron tonight, but Westbrook was just as good as him..obviously Westbrook won't receive any credit, though..

[vato loco]

2nd

he's an amazing scorer but give me lebron anyday

[Mugen]

said it before the Spurs/Thunder series. Lebron's still the best all around player but I'll take Durant right now. He's improved his passing/defense significantly.

[InK]

He is young as well

[lefty]

Lebron = best overall player
KD = most clutch

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Westbrook is not even in the same.conversation with Durant in terms of efficiency and cold bloodedness

[TE]

He is up there. I still think Lebron is better at his best.


This series will certainly determine who is currently the best player in the world.

[HarlemHeat37]

Westbrook was just as important on both sides of the floor, tonight..

If Durant outplays Lebron all series, I'll concede that he's the best player in the NBA(although he has been allowed to rest for the entire playoffs, on D, going up against weak individual opponents during the first 3 series's)..

I just want Westbrook to receive credit as a top 3 guard, which is currently where he's ranked..

[baseline bum]

God damn Durant is awesome to watch. Sick to see a guy playing this well and 3 wins from a ring at age 23. I can't wait until Miami gets a coach next season and we see a modern day 80s Lakers-Celtics rivalry between the Thunder and Heat.

[oh crap]

dude is only 23 fucking years old with room to grow still.. that's just plain scary :lol

[OKC Thunderstorm]

Westbrook was just as important on both sides of the floor, tonight..

If Durant outplays Lebron all series, I'll concede that he's the best player in the NBA(although he has been allowed to rest for the entire playoffs, on D, going up against weak individual opponents during the first 3 series's)..

I just want Westbrook to receive credit as a top 3 guard, which is currently where he's ranked..

Yes to both. OKC in 6 games ...

[baseline bum]

dude is only 23 fucking years old with room to grow still.. that's just plain scary :lol

Still, will he be as effective in a couple of years once his acne has cleared up?

[OKC Thunderstorm]

He outplayed Lebron tonight, but Westbrook was just as good as him..obviously Westbrook won't receive any credit, though..

Not as good but almost as important.

[TampaDude]

Happy for Durant. He's really good and will likely win several titles.

Pissed that dirty, coddled Fisher is probably gonna coattail to yet another ring. Somebody needs to MWP his ass, seriously.

[timvp]

So in Durant's first Finals game he had a better outing than LeBron has ever had in the Finals?

I'm sure we won't hear about that 1389410942 times in the next couple days . . .

[Baron Davιs]

Took LeBron 11 playoff games to reach 30 pts in the Finals.
Only took Durant 1.
:lol

[KD4MVP]

He's pretty freaking good, scary thing he's just 23 years old!

[ImDaNuts]

yep

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Best in the world. Ruthlessly efficient. Makes great decisions. Never gets rattled. Unstoppable in the 4th. The Durant Era has arrived.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

God damn Durant is awesome to watch. Sick to see a guy playing this well and 3 wins from a ring at age 23. I can't wait until Miami gets a coach next season and we see a modern day 80s Lakers-Celtics rivalry between the Thunder and Heat.

I was thinking Durant is too young to deserve a title too, until espn just reminded me that Kobe was only 22 (1 year younger than Durant) when he started coat tailing his way to multiple championships

[dbreiden83080]

He is the most clutch.. Lebron is better all around but he can't shoot like Durant and he does not have that ice in his veins..

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I was thinking Durant is too young to deserve a title too, until espn just reminded me that Kobe was only 22 (1 year younger than Durant) when he started coat tailing his way to multiple championships

This actually makes me laugh

Lol Kobe needing the most unstoppable force in NBA history to win his first title

Lol Kobe's career compared to Durant's in year 4

[jag]

Incredibly efficient. It's crazy how effortless the game is to him.

[baseline bum]

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Stephen A Smith, but Durant is (already!) a better version of Ice.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Stephen A Smith, but Durant is (already!) a better version of Ice.

i thought he plays like a rich man injury free tmac, the ability to school anyone when he chooses...could glide to the rim with ease...

[ducks]

kd is so much better then james it is not even funny

[ducks]

kd only had 10 shots in the first 3 quarters also

[vato loco]

i thought he plays like a rich man injury free tmac, the ability to school anyone when he chooses...could glide to the rim with ease...

injury free tmac might've been an even bigger scoring machine than durant

he just never had anyone as good as harden on his team much less westbrook

[pass1st]

If Durant steps up on defense more, it's over for the NBA. He has the tools to be an elite defender

[TIMMYtoZO]

Nothing left to debate tbh.

Lebron says hi. When Lebron leads Miami to a title this series, I will bump this thread.

[ducks]

He outplayed Lebron tonight, but Westbrook was just as good as him..obviously Westbrook won't receive any credit, though..

stephen smith blasted westrbrook tonight
he said had he been only they would have blown them out
kd ONLY 10 shots three 3 quarters WOW

[baseline bum]

kd is so much better then james it is not even funny

I thought it was pretty funny tbh.

[ducks]

Lebron says hi. When Lebron leads Miami to a title this series, I will bump this thread.

hell will freeze over?

[mavs>spurs]

lebron is the best player, KD has the better team. however he is a close 2nd.

[ducks]

I thought it was pretty funny tbh.

it is very funny people actually think james is the best basketball player to every play the game

[TE]

What's crazy is to think how talented this summer's Olympic team will be. Imagine having both Lebron and Durant on the court in the same team. Olympic teams should just forfeit their games against the USA team.

[ducks]

lebron is the best player, KD has the better team. however he is a close 2nd.

james is a volume shooter
kd is very effective
kd started out on james
and still put those numbers up in 4
kd is not even in his prime and he is way better
every one keeps saying james needs better teamates
three superstars signed with the heat at the same time

[Venti Quattro]

What's crazy is to think how talented this summer's Olympic team will be. Imagine having both Lebron and Durant on the court in the same team. Olympic teams should just forfeit their games against the USA team.

The silver will be championship for the rest of the field. :lol

[DMC]

Lebron is always the best player, but there's always some other player who completely pushes his shit in during the Finals.

Not sure how that works.

[DMC]

What's crazy is to think how talented this summer's Olympic team will be. Imagine having both Lebron and Durant on the court in the same team. Olympic teams should just forfeit their games against the USA team.

Even better, imagine just having Durant and no one to choke the game away. Durant has proven he can deal in world ball, others folded pretty handily tbh.

[mavs>spurs]

james is a volume shooter
kd is very effective
kd started out on james
and still put those numbers up in 4
kd is not even in his prime and he is way better
every one keeps saying james needs better teamates
three superstars signed with the heat at the same time

well now that we got stupid opinion out of the way lol

[TE]

Even better, imagine just having Durant and no one to choke the game away. Durant has proven he can deal in world ball, others folded pretty handily tbh.

Yeah, Durant is widely considered as the best international player. I wouldn't have a problem with having him up there in a GOAT discussion with regards to international competition.

[HeatChamps]

Lebron is better. You haven't seen the dominating James yet. He will show up in game 2.

[racm]

Next Larry Bird?

[jjktkk]

Lebron is always the best player, but there's always some other player who completely pushes his shit in during the Finals.

Not sure how that works.

Lebron is the mosted talented, but he hasn't shown the clutch gene in a final yet.

[jjktkk]

Next Larry Bird?

Potentially, but KD is more athletic than Bird.

[tesseractive]

There's a lot of basketball left to be played. One game into the WCFs the Spurs were cruising to the title riding their win streak.

[tesseractive]

Potentially, but KD is more athletic than Bird.

He has the potential to be the evolutionary Larry Bird. Stone cold assassin 3 who can also pass and rebound.

[Clipper Nation]

Best basketball player in the world is LeBron Raymone James, nobody else has an argument. If Wade would have stopped chucking so much and let LeBron dominate the ball, this thread wouldn't exist right now tbh.

[Durant 35]

He's pretty freaking good, scary thing he's just 23 years old!

Indeed

[LkrFan]

Kevin Durant is the best player in the NBA right now. He has proven himself to have the same icewater in his veins that is necessary to dominate. Like I said, after these Finals, the world will know who KD is. Eventually, BSPN will begrudgingly acknowledge that he is clearly better than LeHype. He still doesn't get the respect he deserves around these parts though. In time he will.

#23YEAROLDPHENOM

[blkroadrunners]

He's aight.

[Latarian Milton]

durant is a quite good player no doubt about that but bron is still the #1 on this planet, bron will prove it later tbh. durant is kinda like fated to be the #2

[LkrFan]

durant is a quite good player no doubt about that but bron is still the #1 on this planet, bron will prove it later tbh. durant is kinda like fated to be the #2

:rollin

[100%duncan]

Wait till the season ends fwiw

[dbreiden83080]

His mom is on first take right now and Skip just told her he thinks he can be better than Kobe.. :lol

Everyone throwing Lebron under the bus.. :lol

[Frank Dux]

lol at the idiots who said he would never be great because he couldn't bench 185. Anybody still holding on to that perspective? There's an old thread about it that's long over due for a bump.

[Bill_Brasky]

He still aint won shit yet. Just protecting home court like the Spurs.

[Bynum's grey hair]

He still aint won shit yet. Just protecting home court like the Spurs.
If they had protected home court, they wouldn't be sitting at home.

[gospursgojas]

Bird and doc j rolled in one. Not even a poor man's version. He has potential to be top 10-15 all time.

[tenbeersbold]

LOL! Ref coddled NBA Star product who's predominantly a jump shooter..spare me

Dude has no post game or back-to-the basket game to speak of and yet he gets to the free-throw line a ton exactly how?!? BS foul calls,he's just one of many on his team that is coddled and given star treatment by the NBA

OKC is the new LA as far as reffing goes BUT without any sort of post player that could maybe possibly earn some of the ridiculous amount of foul calls,thus exposing the NBA's bias to a laughable degree.

Too bad OKC didn't have to go through Memphis,they woulda made Durant/Harden really think twice and earn them fouls.Seriously if the NBA is gonna give certain guys a blank pass,teams shouldn't feel bad about enforcing a little of their own rules via a hard foul or two.

[djohn2oo8]

:cry:cry:cry:cry

[MavDynasty]

LOL! Ref coddled NBA Star product who's predominantly a jump shooter..spare me

Dude has no post game or back-to-the basket game to speak of and yet he gets to the free-throw line a ton exactly how?!? BS foul calls,he's just one of many on his team that is coddled and given star treatment by the NBA

OKC is the new LA as far as reffing goes BUT without any sort of post player that could maybe possibly earn some of the ridiculous amount of foul calls,thus exposing the NBA's bias to a laughable degree.

Too bad OKC didn't have to go through Memphis,they woulda made Durant/Harden really think twice and earn them fouls.Seriously if the NBA is gonna give certain guys a blank pass,teams shouldn't feel bad about enforcing a little of their own rules via a hard foul or two.

Tell us how you really feel. You sound very butthurt.

[Goran Dragic]

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[Clipper Nation]

Kevin Durant is the best player in the NBA right now. He has proven himself to have the same icewater in his veins that is necessary to dominate. Like I said, after these Finals, the world will know who KD is. Eventually, BSPN will begrudgingly acknowledge that he is clearly better than LeHype. He still doesn't get the respect he deserves around these parts though. In time he will.

#23YEAROLDPHENOM
Is that you, Skip?

[HarlemHeat37]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe 5 (The Gold Standard)

Lebron 1, Dirk 1, and Duncan 4

That's it and that's all

[Venti Quattro]

Lebron says hi. When Lebron leads Miami to a title this series, I will bump this thread.

Why didn't you bump this thread, T2Z?

[lakerhaterade]

Why didn't you bump this thread, T2Z?

Too busy celebrating

[scanry]

It's funny how everyone of us started nut hugging Durant after Game 1 but by Game 4, we all pulled a 360 and started crowning the King. :lol

I guess you need a freak of nature like Lebron along with his athleticism to shut down KD.

[lakerhaterade]

:lol premature ejaculation thread
:lol beanerfactor
:lol ruff

[lefty]

LOL! Ref coddled NBA Star product who's predominantly a jump shooter..spare me

Dude has no post game or back-to-the basket game to speak of and yet he gets to the free-throw line a ton exactly how?!? BS foul calls,he's just one of many on his team that is coddled and given star treatment by the NBA

OKC is the new LA as far as reffing goes BUT without any sort of post player that could maybe possibly earn some of the ridiculous amount of foul calls,thus exposing the NBA's bias to a laughable degree.

Too bad OKC didn't have to go through Memphis,they woulda made Durant/Harden really think twice and earn them fouls.Seriously if the NBA is gonna give certain guys a blank pass,teams shouldn't feel bad about enforcing a little of their own rules via a hard foul or two.

Thread

[benefactor]

Why didn't you bump this thread, T2Z?
I wondered the same. :lol

He's not there yet but he will be. It will be interesting to see how both of their careers play out from here.

[scanry]

I wondered the same. :lol

He's not there yet but he will be. It will be interesting to see how both of their careers play out from here.

The only thing stopping Kevin Durant in the foreseeable future will be Lebron James, and he'll be in his prime for another 5-6 years. :wow

The next 5 years will be epic as we'll be witnessing another Magic-Bird in Lebron-Durant showdown.

[benefactor]

The only thing stopping Kevin Durant in the foreseeable future will be Lebron James, and he'll be in his prime for another 5-6 years. :wow

The next 5 years will be epic as we'll be witnessing another Magic-Bird in Lebron-Durant showdown.
He'll be 28 this year, so five or six years is probably a stretch. He's probably got 4 more years of good solid prime before he starts to decline...barring any injuries, of course. Durant will be 24 and is still peaking.

The next few seasons should be fun to watch as they should continue to go head to head in the finals. As nature takes it's course and James hits the other side of 30 in the next two years Durant will overtake him. These next couple of seasons head to head will fuel a lot of arguments for who was the best during this era.

[Clipper Nation]

The only thing stopping Kevin Durant in the foreseeable future will be Lebron James

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Russell+Westbrook+Oklahoma+City+Thunder+v+Ge6q8w6a f0Fl.jpg

(Sidenote: :lol Westbrick)

[benefactor]

I have a little bit more confidence in Westbrook than I had before. He showed some flashes of maturity in the playoffs this year. I'm far from convinced though.

[Josepatches_]

Thread was not about the future or the past.

LeBron is the best player in the world

[racm]

Westbrook reminds me of a younger Parker.

[lefty]

Westbrook shits on Parker

[racm]

Duh. Westbrook is more explosive.

If he can reduce his 3 point attempts and refine his midrange game he'd be deadly.

[Jodelo]

It's funny how everyone of us started nut hugging Durant after Game 1 but by Game 4, we all pulled a 360 and started crowning the King. :lol

I guess you need a freak of nature like Lebron along with his athleticism to shut down KD.

Ok... So a full turn?

[TE]

Ok... So a full turn?

:lol

[Venti Quattro]

Ok... So a full turn?

Someone failed their geometry classes. :lol :lol :lol

[jeebus]

Ok... So a full turn?

SL135uL2XZA

[benefactor]

Ok... So a full turn?
:lol

[Ace]

Kevin Durant is the best player in the NBA right now. He has proven himself to have the same icewater in his veins that is necessary to dominate. Like I said, after these Finals, the world will know who KD is. Eventually, BSPN will begrudgingly acknowledge that he is clearly better than LeHype. He still doesn't get the respect he deserves around these parts though. In time he will.

#23YEAROLDPHENOM

:rollin

[Kidd K]

Nothing left to debate tbh.

Except the fact that LeBron, the guy who plays the same position as Durant that just beat the brakes off him in the Finals, is much better.

[lakerhaterade]

so benefactor has yet to directly say he was wrong, ok.

[DMC]

Westbrook reminds me of a younger Parker.
Parker used to catch alley oops all the time and monkey ball the fuck out of them.

He was a beast back in the day.

[DPG21920]

And the best............actor?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thunderstruck_2012/

Wow.

[racm]

That explains Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals...

:lmao

[benefactor]

so benefactor has yet to directly say he was wrong, ok.


He's not there yet
:wakeup

[DAF86]

Knee-jerk reaction thread, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Kevin Durant "best in the world"
:lol LeClutch, CP3, and Dwight still above him
:lol Stolen Thunder getting backdoor swept

[Clipper Nation]

Nothing left to debate tbh.

You can have that, but I'm stickin' with:::

5-24

[100%duncan]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[100%duncan]

Ma nigga benefactor will receive a lot of shit for this :lol

[thunderup]

:lol

[Budkin]

Damn how a year can change things...

[Budkin]

Didn't change anything, really. James has and always will be a vastly superior player.

I just meant everyone slobbing KDs knob.

[HI-FI]

i actually am a KD fan like the OP, but without Stern's ref rigging, we wouldn't be comparing him to Lebron tbh. He is great in his own way, but he won't ever be as dynamic as Lebron.

[Reck]

Ma nigga benefactor (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13284) will receive a lot of shit for this :lol

Somehow I feel off the hook for my failed prediction about det Thunder. lol

[100%duncan]

Somehow I feel off the hook for my failed prediction about det Thunder. lol

I'm letting ya. :lol I'm waiting for that old fuck DMC to show up tho and toast him per par depends if I'm bored :lol

[Stabula]

Gotta love bumps like these

[benefactor]

crofl me

[LkrFan]

I'm not ready to eulogize him just yet. Even the Kang got his shit pushed every year, before he colluded and joined the class of 2003 in Miami.

Durant is what - 24? He's still years from his prime. LBJ is already at his peak. Durant hasn't reached his. Not even close IMO.

[benefactor]

Yeah...he's an easy target right now but unless some other prodigy shows up he will likely get there in the next few seasons. James will be 30 in two years and after 12 seasons of his large frame pounding on those legs his body will probably start to turn on him. Durant could easily go the Dirk route and turn alpha later in his career.

[UNCLE-DREW]

epic bump :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Norris Cole]

I'm not ready to eulogize him just yet. Even the Kang got his shit pushed every year, before he colluded and joined the class of 2003 in Miami.

Durant is what - 24? He's still years from his prime. LBJ is already at his peak. Durant hasn't reached his. Not even close IMO.
Before Miami, what teammate did LeBron have that compared to Ibaka, Harden or Westbrook? I'll wait...

[UNCLE-DREW]

Before Miami, what teammate did LeBron have that compared to Ibaka, Harden or Westbrook? I'll wait...

zydrunas ilgauskas the white abaka, oh wait :lmao

[Josepatches_]

Durant has Kevin Martin too who is better than Larry Hughes and arguably as good as Mo Williams

[DPG21920]

I'm not ready to eulogize him just yet. Even the Kang got his shit pushed every year, before he colluded and joined the class of 2003 in Miami.

Durant is what - 24? He's still years from his prime. LBJ is already at his peak. Durant hasn't reached his. Not even close IMO.

Thats not what you said though. Despite those factors, you called him the best last year.

[LkrFan]

Before Miami, what teammate did LeBron have that compared to Ibaka, Harden or Westbrook? I'll wait...
You're deflecting. Fact: the Cavs stockpiled several lottery players due to years of sucking. Then, like the Spurs did for TD, they tanked to get LBJ (great move btw :tu). After LBJ came onboard, everything revolved around him. Every player drafted, traded for, or acquired thru FA was designed to compliment his game. It was his team.

That being said, he had players around him to make noise. The east was weak starting around 2005. So when he took them to the Finals in 2007, and got his shit thoroughly pushed in, it was no surprise.

But to answer your question, no he didn't have the caliber of young players you mentioned. When he lost, he got a pass on this very board because of this reason (I know of a certain player in LA that doesn't get a pass, who had an even shittier set of teammates that gets blamed for "missing the playoffs in his prime" but that's off topic for now).

Boiled down, he didn't win until he colluded. You can :downspin: if you want, but these be the facts. He did something no true all-time great would have done: join other stars in order to win. Even MJ said as much. So in my book, every ring he wins gets an * like them 1999 NBA champs. :lol

[LkrFan]

Thats not what you said though. Despite those factors, you called him the best last year.
I was wrong. LBJ is the best player in the world - for now. I think that Durant is a monster in the making. I think he needs to get his skinny ass in the gym and put on about 25lbs of muscle. If he does that, he will surpass LBJ as the best player in the L IMO. LBJ is clearly better right now, but I think KD is nowhere near his ceiling.

[Raven]

:lol

[Jodelo]

I was wrong. LBJ is the best player in the world - for now. I think that Durant is a monster in the making. I think he needs to get his skinny ass in the gym and put on about 25lbs of muscle. If he does that, he will surpass LBJ as the best player in the L IMO. LBJ is clearly better right now, but I think KD is nowhere near his ceiling.

:lmao

[Raven]

I was wrong. LBJ is the best player in the world - for now. I think that Durant is a monster in the making. I think he needs to get his skinny ass in the gym and put on about 25lbs of muscle. If he does that, he will surpass LBJ as the best player in the L IMO. LBJ is clearly better right now, but I think KD is nowhere near his ceiling.

i can never understand how can people think someone may put up 25lbs of muscle without slowing down. While basketball and football are probably the only sports where fat can actually serve a purpose, i don't think it would help Durant at all. To put up 25lbs with proteins alone in a year it would take a crazy amount of effort, i really don't see that happening.

[LkrFan]

:lmao

2013 Playoffs KD v. LBJ

30.8 ppg - 24.0ppg
9.3rpg - 7.3rpg
6.3apg - 7.3apg
45.5% - 51.8%

He is basically a one man gang out there and doesn't have nearly the supporting cast LBJ has around him. Put KD on the 2013 Heat team in place of LBJ, and I'd argue they wouldn't skip a beat. Put LBJ in OKC without WB, and he's fishing too. We've seen the results of LBJ teams outside of Miami.

[oh crap]

2013 Playoffs KD v. LBJ

30.8 ppg - 24.0ppg
9.3rpg - 7.3rpg
6.3apg - 7.3apg
45.5% - 51.8%

He is basically a one man gang out there and doesn't have nearly the supporting cast LBJ has around him. Put KD on the 2013 Heat team in place of LBJ, and I'd argue they wouldn't skip a beat. Put LBJ in OKC without WB, and he's fishing too. We've seen the results of LBJ teams outside of Miami.

Not often I agree with laker fan, but I whole heartedly agree here.

[LkrFan]

i can never understand how can people think someone may put up 25lbs of muscle without slowing down. While basketball and football are probably the only sports where fat can actually serve a purpose, i don't think it would help Durant at all. To put up 25lbs with proteins alone in a year it would take a crazy amount of effort, i really don't see that happening.
KG is bigger than he was as an 18-year old rook. It didn't slow him down. If anything, adding muscle will make Durant stronger in the post which will also will help him be a stronger defender. Hell, LBJ is bigger than he was as a rook. Did he lose speed? :lol

-10 points for you son.

[LkrFan]

Not often I agree with laker fan, but I whole heartedly agree here.
:tu

[Raven]

KG is bigger than he was as an 18-year old rook. It didn't slow him down. If anything, adding muscle will make him stronger in the post which will also will help him be a stronger defender. Hell, LBJ is bigger than he was as a rook. Did he lose speed? :lol

-10 points for you son.

horrible take, at that age your body is still growing naturally.

[LkrFan]

horrible take, at that age your body is still growing naturally.
Where's your proof that a soon to be 25 year old is still growing? Not saying it never happens, but it is highly unlikely. Until you produce irrefutable proof of your claim, -10 more points. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

2013 Playoffs KD v. LBJ

30.8 ppg - 24.0ppg
9.3rpg - 7.3rpg
6.3apg - 7.3apg
45.5% - 51.8%

He is basically a one man gang out there and doesn't have nearly the supporting cast LBJ has around him. Put KD on the 2013 Heat team in place of LBJ, and I'd argue they wouldn't skip a beat. Put LBJ in OKC without WB, and he's fishing too. We've seen the results of LBJ teams outside of Miami.
Terrible take, LBJ took a worse supporting cast than KD has even without Westbrick to the Finals....

In one series against the Magic in '09, LBJ outdid Durant's entire postseason this year, averaging 38.5 PPG on 48% shooting, while averaging 8.3 rebounds per game and 8 assists....

In arguably the biggest game of his pre-Miami career, against the Pistons in '07, LeBron dropped 29 of the Cavs' last 30 points.... meanwhile, when KD needs to step up by himself, he went 5-21 from the floor...

Now :downspin: dat shit!

[Raven]

Where's your proof that a soon to be 25 year old is still growing? Not saying it never happens, but it is highly unlikely. Until you produce irrefutable proof of your claim, -10 more points. :lol

i'm actually saying the opposite :lol you used the example of an 18 year old kg and a what, 19 year old lebron? how can you use that argument for a 24-25 durant?

[LkrFan]

Terrible take, LBJ took a worse supporting cast than KD has even without Westbrick to the Finals....
LBJ went through Leastern Conference in 2007. When he got to the Finals, The Sweep! took place. -10 points.


In one series against the Magic in '09, LBJ outdid Durant's entire postseason this year, averaging 38.5 PPG on 48% shooting, while averaging 8.3 rebounds per game and 8 assists....That's not saying shit. Did he rang in 2009? Hell to the no. He dominates the ball ala CP3. Of course he'll always put up numbers. However, he didn't win jackshit until he colluded. Question: is he putting up those numbers in Miami? No. -10 more points.


In arguably the biggest game of his pre-Miami career, against the Pistons in '07, LeBron dropped 29 of the Cavs' last 30 points.... meanwhile, when KD needs to step up by himself, he went 5-21 from the floor...

Now :downspin: dat shit!
No need to :downspin: - I already stated above that it was the Leastern Conference that year. The real "Finals" was the WCF. He had a good series though. He still got his shit pushed in when he got to the Finals. Truth be told, if Cleveland were a WC team, he wouldn't have gotten to the Finals until 2010. ;)

:downspin:

[DMC]

James is far and away a better PLAYER than Durant. Durant is a better shooter. Nothing else.

[LkrFan]

i'm actually saying the opposite :lol you used the example of an 18 year old kg and a what, 19 year old lebron? how can you use that argument for a 24-25 durant?
I wasn't comparing a 24-25 year old KD to KG or LBJ when they came into the league. I said KD needs to gain weight/strength which is true. You said that it would slow him down. I refuted that because KG came in just as skinny, then gained weight (eventually), and went on to have a HOF career. I didn't notice any loss of quickness in his game. Hell, he's still pretty quick right now as a certified TOSB. He just doesn't have the stamina he did 15 years ago. Then I mentioned that LBJ is bigger and stronger now than he was as a rook. There is no noticeable drop in his speed or quickness, even 10 years later.

So, for me taking time out from working and having to explain myself to you, -10 more points. Try harder son. :tu

[Raven]

I wasn't comparing a 24-25 year old KD to KG or LBJ when they came into the league. I said KD needs to gain weight/strength which is true. You said that it would slow him down. I refuted that because KG came in just as skinny, then gained weight (eventually), and went on to have a HOF career. I didn't notice any loss of quickness in his game. Hell, he's still pretty quick right now as a certified TOSB. He just doesn't have the stamina he did 15 years ago. Then I mentioned that LBJ is bigger and stronger now than he was as a rook. There is no noticeable drop in his speed or quickness, even 10 years later.

So, for me taking time out from working and having to explain myself to you, -10 more points. Try harder son. :tu

i don't know what's your problem tbh :lol

[resistanze]

That's not saying shit. Did he rang in 2009? Hell to the no. He dominates the ball ala CP3. Of course he'll always put up numbers. However, he didn't win jackshit until he colluded. Question: is he putting up those numbers in Miami? No. -10 more points.

So why post Durant's numbers from this year like it's special, considering he's definitely not ringing?

[Clipper Nation]

So why post Durant's numbers from this year like it's special, considering he's definitely not ringing?
And why bring up collusion when collusion is the reason why the OKC Thunder exists?

[LkrFan]

So why post Durant's numbers from this year like it's special, considering he's definitely not ringing?

He laughed at my post. So to back up my claims, I posted current playoff numbers betweem the two. Now, admittedly, LBJ is the best in the game today (bar none tbh). However, to laugh at my theory that this is the best we'll see of LBJ - and KD (being only 24) can overtake him as the best of the game - is funny, but silly IMO. At one time Kobe was the best player in the game, too. Even LBJ said as much. No one says that anymore.

Simply put, KD's ceiling has not been reached yet. Also, if KD gains strength (my opinion) he'll challenge LBJ as the best in the game. Not too far fetched. LBJ is better than KD (right now) and his supporting cast is better than KD's is. Will that change? I guess we'll have to see.

[LkrFan]

And why bring up collusion when collusion is the reason why the OKC Thunder exists?

Do you know what collusion (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/collusion)means? I don't think you do son. -15 points

[Clipper Nation]

Do you know what collusion (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/collusion)means? I don't think you do son. -15 points

Howard Schultz and Clay Bennett colluded to steal the Sonics, son... watch Sonicsgate...

-81 points

[LkrFan]

Howard Schultz and Clay Bennett colluded to steal the Sonics, son... watch Sonicsgate...

-81 points
G:lol:lold shit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[lefty]

Bump TBH :lol

[RD2191]

:lol@Benefactor being bolded. How much did he pay? tbh

[Clipper Nation]

He misspelled the title, it's supposed to read "Kevin Durant is the beta-est basketball player in the world" :lol

[lefty]

kd is so much better then james it is not even funny
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[lefty]

Next Larry Bird?


Potentially, but KD is more athletic than Bird.


He has the potential to be the evolutionary Larry Bird. Stone cold assassin 3 who can also pass and rebound.
http://gifs.gifbin.com/1234778541_lol.jpg

[FkLA]

lol benefactor

What a dumb piece of shit tbh.

[Killakobe81]

Kd not that but is clear #2

[Rogue]

Durant ain't the best even as a beta tbh, Kobe career-wise beats anyone in that regard.

[benefactor]

crofl me

[benefactor]

Didn't unleash my shemale porn stash, but definitely was not my finest hour.:lol

[thunderup]

I agree with the OP.

[Spurs9]

Dam he beasted that game.

[lefty]

Nothing left to debate tbh.


God damn Durant is awesome to watch. Sick to see a guy playing this well and 3 wins from a ring at age 23. I can't wait until Miami gets a coach next season and we see a modern day 80s Lakers-Celtics rivalry between the Thunder and Heat.


Happy for Durant. He's really good and will likely win several titles.

Pissed that dirty, coddled Fisher is probably gonna coattail to yet another ring. Somebody needs to MWP his ass, seriously.


Took LeBron 11 playoff games to reach 30 pts in the Finals.
Only took Durant 1.
:lol


yep


Best in the world. Ruthlessly efficient. Makes great decisions. Never gets rattled. Unstoppable in the 4th. The Durant Era has arrived.


kd is so much better then james it is not even funny


If Durant steps up on defense more, it's over for the NBA. He has the tools to be an elite defender


Next Larry Bird?


He has the potential to be the evolutionary Larry Bird. Stone cold assassin 3 who can also pass and rebound.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3c0zSXH81qd7eic.gif

[HI-FI]

:lol

[Killakobe81]

Kd not that but is clear #2

Like I said ...

[baseline bum]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3c0zSXH81qd7eic.gif

LOL, I remember us making the same thread about Kobe after the 08 WCF right before Pierce took his cookie.

Still, can't hate on Durant just because Presti chose Perkins over Harden.

[Clipper Nation]

Durbeta will never be on the Kang's level :lol

[Thread]

Durbeta will never be on the Kang's level :lol

Let's just hope the (Kang?) stays at his level. I need me some 3 peat to seal you off'n 5-5.

[lefty]

Nothing left to debate tbh.
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[lefty]

Error 404 : MVP not found; please contact Miami for help

[benefactor]

crofl me