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Duncan2177
06-13-2012, 08:48 PM
http://www.caller.com/news/2012/jun/11/spurs-future-time-trade-tony-parker/

New York gets away from the detrimental isolation heavy offense that Melo brought along and the addition of a pick-and-roll terror like Parker could do wonders for Amare Stoudemire. We're talking career revitalizing wonders. We saw how well he played when it was Jeremy Lin running the show, can you imagine him with Parker? New York would still have a good crop of plug and play role players, the defensive player of the year in the middle and they'd have a brand new offensive culture perfect for the situation. They've shown interest in Parker before and after a disappointing post-season run that brought about several stylistic problems between their two max salary players, now is a pretty good time for them to change things up.

San Antonio gets their new face. Anthony has a negative connotation around his name right now but we've seen countless times before that if you give Gregg Popovich a talented player, he can get rid of all of the baggage he carries. George Karl didn't have the stability to change Melo's mindset. Neither did Mike D'Antoni. And Mike Woodson practically told Anthony to do whatever he wanted near the end of the season. Popovich is the clear king in San Antonio, though, and if you give Carmelo a figure he has to respect, who knows how good he can be, especially when he's in a winning environment.

But what about the point guard spot? You can't trade Parker and not get anyone back to run the show. Even though Manu is capable of doing that, San Antonio would need a true point. So who is the final piece to the puzzle? How about the guy that once eliminated the Spurs from the post-season with one eye swollen shut? How about the future hall-of-fame whose legacy is dying for a ring? Why not get someone that once piloted the most efficient offense in recent NBA history to come in and lead the Spurs' new juggernaut? Steve Nash is a free agent this summer and even though his name is constantly linked to sexy destinations like Los Angeles or New York or Miami, a stint in San Antonio could bring him as close as ever to that ever elusive ring, and he'd be a perfect fit for Pop's new up-tempo offense.

If surrounding Carmelo with Nash, Ginobili, Duncan and Pop isn't enough to break him in as a team player then nothing will. Their starting lineup could be Nash/Leonard/Anthony/Free Agent X/Duncan with Ginobili, Patty Mills, Stephen Jackson, DeJuan Blair and Tiago Splitter coming off the bench. In crunchtime the Spurs could replace Leonard with Manu or they could even go small and play Melo at the four, something he did very well this year. The upside of that core with the Spurs' usually fantastic bench is huge and while they'd have essentially the same window as this current group, I think they would be better than this year's Spurs team was. Plus, San Antonio would have Anthony to build around once it comes time for Duncan, Nash and Manu to retire. I think going after Anthony and Nash while only dispensing Parker not only makes the Spurs better for next year but also paints a brighter picture for their future than their current cast does.

ChumpDumper
06-13-2012, 08:54 PM
lol

Juggity
06-13-2012, 08:57 PM
:lmao Carmelo for Parker?

Ticket to languishing in the mediocrity corner for the next couple seasons as a fringe contender and getting knocked off in the first round repeatedly.

FkLA
06-13-2012, 09:00 PM
Carmelo is a better foundation to build around. Hes capable of being a Top 5-10 player in the league when in top form. NY would never do that.

Small Fundamental
06-13-2012, 09:04 PM
Carmelo is a better foundation to build around. Hes capable of being a Top 5-10 player in the league when in top form. NY would never do that.
:rollin

Spurs da champs
06-13-2012, 09:23 PM
:rollin

So Tony is better then Melo? Smh

Beanzamillion21
06-13-2012, 09:29 PM
Lol fuck no.

spursfan09
06-13-2012, 09:30 PM
Damn NY would be great. Could you imagine them with Parker

therealtruth
06-13-2012, 09:33 PM
The Spurs need to get longer and more athletic. They also need better interior defense. They just need point guards that can make sure everyone is getting shots and keep their confidence going. It seems there is a high correlation between our shooters losing confidence and Tony Parker struggling. If we can solve that I think we'll be much better.

CGD
06-13-2012, 09:39 PM
If Duncan retires, id do it; though i think id take Amare over melo. Frankly i think thats the part nyc wants to move. We may not like to admit it but spurs are entering the zone of suckage in a few short years. Move Parker now for value, and after next year you shed 21m alone in Manu and Jax. After that melo only has two years left on his deal. I just have little faith in the spurs landing anyone via fee agency tbh.

SenorSpur
06-13-2012, 10:50 PM
:td

Blake
06-13-2012, 11:02 PM
Starting 5 of Tim, Nash, Melo, Leonard and Bonner?

I like it.

FkLA
06-13-2012, 11:03 PM
:rollin

2009 says hi. Melo is still the same player he was then, he just needs to be in the right environment. Youd be an idiot not to trade 2012 Parker for a shot at getting the player Melo was in 2009. Its a pipe dream though obviously, NY wouldnt do it.



Starting 5 of Tim, Nash, Melo, Leonard and Bonner?

I like it.

Better than Tim, Parker, Green, Leonard, and Bonner tbh.

Small Fundamental
06-13-2012, 11:05 PM
2009 says hi. Melo is still the same player he was then, he just needs to be in the right environment. Youd be an idiot not to trade 2012 Parker for a shot at getting the player Melo was in 2009. Its a pipe dream though obviously, NY wouldnt do it.Stop it. You're killing me. :lol

dbreiden83080
06-13-2012, 11:06 PM
As long as Duncan wants to play you keep Tony in SA.. When Tim is gone ship Tony..

FkLA
06-13-2012, 11:08 PM
Stop it. You're killing me. :lol

Lets say Pop straightened Melo out and we got 2009 Melo. Are you saying 2012 Parker is better than 2009 Melo? :lol

SamoanTD
06-13-2012, 11:19 PM
So people say KG is a pipe dream than what is this?

ducks
06-13-2012, 11:54 PM
splitter for bosh plus blair and booner

lcroock
06-13-2012, 11:54 PM
Nash + Duncan on defense = no chance in playoffs. Nash is one of the worst perimeter defenders and Timmy right now cannot move well enough to be a shot blocker or even an above average defender in the paint. The Spurs need a big man who can intimidate and block some shots. If Miami loses we should package Parker-Splitter-Neal-Blair for Wade and sign Andre Miller or Jameer Nelson.

SamoanTD
06-14-2012, 12:07 AM
Nash + Duncan on defense = no chance in playoffs. Nash is one of the worst perimeter defenders and Timmy right now cannot move well enough to be a shot blocker or even an above average defender in the paint. The Spurs need a big man who can intimidate and block some shots. If Miami loses we should package Parker-Splitter-Neal-Blair for Wade and sign Andre Miller or Jameer Nelson.

Did you even read what you typed. Spurs need a big right? So the answer to that is trading for a cry baby and signing miller or nelson? Go back rethink your thoughts than come try again.

Spur|n|Austin
06-14-2012, 12:15 AM
Nash + Duncan on defense = no chance in playoffs. Nash is one of the worst perimeter defenders and Timmy right now cannot move well enough to be a shot blocker or even an above average defender in the paint. The Spurs need a big man who can intimidate and block some shots. If Miami loses we should package Parker-Splitter-Neal-Blair for Wade and sign Andre Miller or Jameer Nelson.

Did your mind explode after typing this? It completely contradictory.

Marcus Bryant
06-14-2012, 12:46 AM
Natural Spurs fan reaction to being two wins away from the Finals, with two impact late season additions, is to blow up the team.

Marcus Bryant
06-14-2012, 12:47 AM
For Carmelo Anthony.

tesseractive
06-14-2012, 12:51 AM
So people say KG is a pipe dream than what is this?

An acid trip?

No way is New York trading Melo right now. Someone could probably get an easy deal on Amare if they were willing to take on his brutal contract, but not Melo

spurraider21
06-14-2012, 01:08 AM
Why does everybody want to trade Parker who was a top 5 MVP candidate and is our most recent Finals MVP winner. He's still got a few years of elite play, and the Tim-Tony pick n roll is still lethal.

People are talking about trading Parker, or bringing in wing players, like Melo, Batum... when what we really need is a big next to Duncan that can protect the paint. We need somebody to fill the role that Tiago was SUPPOSED to fill. A guy like Chris Kaman, or heck everyone's talking about KG. Something like that

100%duncan
06-14-2012, 06:10 AM
Fuck Carmelo, clown.

G-Dawgg
06-14-2012, 06:25 AM
Parker is too valuable to us to trade at this point...he knows how to play the game properly, and more importantly he's a vital cog to the spurs system.

Russo21
06-14-2012, 09:55 AM
Hah fuck that for a joke. Carmello Anthony? lol do not want on this team. We are set at SF. Leonard will end up being a better all round player then melo anyway. Melo is 9 years into his career, 28 years old, he's peaked, he is what he is, and i do not want for Tony.

Amare Stoudemire on the other hand... ? I wouldn't be opposed. He's a monster.

If we could trade Tony (our best freakin player) but also (best freakin trade piece) it has to be for a good big man.

Then go after Steve Nash via free agency and the loss of tony wouldn't be so bad. Nash is a basketball genious. Even at his advanced age he averaged 13 points, 11 asissts, 53%FG, 39%3PTGF, 89%FT. He makes everybody around him better, everybody.

Stoudemire
Duncan
Leonard/Jackson
Ginobili
Nash

Not to bad. Anyone but Melo, fuck.

ginobili fan
06-14-2012, 10:10 AM
Great so we make NY better ? have we already sold our soul to stern !? really ?

tesseractive
06-14-2012, 10:15 AM
Hah fuck that for a joke. Carmello Anthony? lol do not want on this team. We are set at SF. Leonard will end up being a better all round player then melo anyway. Melo is 9 years into his career, 28 years old, he's peaked, he is what he is, and i do not want for Tony.

Amare Stoudemire on the other hand... ? I wouldn't be opposed. He's a monster.

If we could trade Tony (our best freakin player) but also (best freakin trade piece) it has to be for a good big man.

Then go after Steve Nash via free agency and the loss of tony wouldn't be so bad. Nash is a basketball genious. Even at his advanced age he averaged 13 points, 11 asissts, 53%FG, 39%3PTGF, 89%FT. He makes everybody around him better, everybody.

Stoudemire
Duncan
Leonard/Jackson
Ginobili
Nash

Not to bad. Anyone but Melo, fuck.

After the injuries, Amare isn't the Amare you remember. That would be a terrible trade.

Russo21
06-14-2012, 10:17 AM
^ Better then any big we've had other then Tim for like 10 years though, by far.

Beanzamillion21
06-14-2012, 10:22 AM
Hah fuck that for a joke. Carmello Anthony? lol do not want on this team. We are set at SF. Leonard will end up being a better all round player then melo anyway. Melo is 9 years into his career, 28 years old, he's peaked, he is what he is, and i do not want for Tony.

Amare Stoudemire on the other hand... ? I wouldn't be opposed. He's a monster.

If we could trade Tony (our best freakin player) but also (best freakin trade piece) it has to be for a good big man.

Then go after Steve Nash via free agency and the loss of tony wouldn't be so bad. Nash is a basketball genious. Even at his advanced age he averaged 13 points, 11 asissts, 53%FG, 39%3PTGF, 89%FT. He makes everybody around him better, everybody.

Stoudemire
Duncan
Leonard/Jackson
Ginobili
Nash

Not to bad. Anyone but Melo, fuck.

Cool, the Phoenix Suns with Tim Duncan.

Russo21
06-14-2012, 10:22 AM
Rasho, Elson, Nazr, Tiago, Bonner, Thomas, Oberto, Mahinmi, Gooden etc. The list of shithouse bigs that have come n gone is crazy.

Russo21
06-14-2012, 10:36 AM
Time will tell. Gonna be an intersting offseason to see which direction the F/O will take this team. I don't see how we can aquire a difference maker without parting ways with our core. Unless we could pull off another RJ type trade..? couple of our shithouse players on smaller or shorter contracts for a big man on a team wanting to dump salary.

SamoanTD
06-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Hah fuck that for a joke. Carmello Anthony? lol do not want on this team. We are set at SF. Leonard will end up being a better all round player then melo anyway. Melo is 9 years into his career, 28 years old, he's peaked, he is what he is, and i do not want for Tony.

Amare Stoudemire on the other hand... ? I wouldn't be opposed. He's a monster.

If we could trade Tony (our best freakin player) but also (best freakin trade piece) it has to be for a good big man.

Then go after Steve Nash via free agency and the loss of tony wouldn't be so bad. Nash is a basketball genious. Even at his advanced age he averaged 13 points, 11 asissts, 53%FG, 39%3PTGF, 89%FT. He makes everybody around him better, everybody.

Stoudemire
Duncan
Leonard/Jackson
Ginobili
Nash

Not to bad. Anyone but Melo, fuck.

That's like going backwards and away from winning championships we wouldn't be able to defend shit. The spurs would also become the most injury prone team in the league.

ManuTastic
06-14-2012, 10:52 AM
lol at getting Melo.

lol at "point-guard desperate Knicks"? Ever heard of Jeremy Lin?

I love the Steve Nash idea, but I'm sure he'll get great offers from lots of other teams.

Tbh, Spurs will prob stand pat. The writer's best point was made early on: injuries happen, and there's no telling what OKC's health/potency will be come next year's playoffs. Don't blow it up yet. Parker just had his best year ever, keep him and GET REFUEL.

biskvito
06-14-2012, 10:53 AM
Carmelo shoots a lot, and misses a lot too. He'll often monopolize the offense only to shoot around .300 while everyone else watches passively. Defensive effort not worthy mentioning. Good luck with a prospect like that.

TimmehC
06-14-2012, 11:28 AM
Ah, the New York media. They really are in love with Tony.

Seventyniner
06-14-2012, 11:30 AM
Cool, the Phoenix Suns with Tim Duncan.

Exactly. The metamorphosis would be complete.

I can picture the Spurs sweeping the Suns in the first round next year with a heavy dose of Nash-to-Stoudemire PnRs. Would the fans in Phoenix just collapse from conniptions? Just imagine if Duncan and Ginobili ended up with the Lakers in a couple years and you'll understand how it would feel.

ElNono
06-14-2012, 11:33 AM
I agree with the writer that Tony's stock is probably at the highest it's going to be, and possibly one of the few trade chips that can bring something significant back. But lol Carmelo.