View Full Version : King James will be the GOAT once its all said and done
If you disagree youre an idiot tbh.
OZWIN
06-15-2012, 02:33 AM
Nah...Jordan and then him. Keep it right not real.
mavs>spurs
06-15-2012, 02:48 AM
Ummm lol I take Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq over him any day
dg7md
06-15-2012, 06:39 AM
Probably. But then by then a new LeBron will come around. Every 20 years a new "best of all time" will merge.
TampaDude
06-15-2012, 07:27 AM
LeBron needs a few rings first.
JoeTait75
06-15-2012, 07:47 AM
Even if he wins a couple of rings LeBron will get the Wilt/Shaq rap imo: that regardless of his dominance and his accomplishments he never quite fulfilled all of the promise hinted at by his physical gifts.
GOAT is reserved for guys like MJ who are seen as having maximized their talent.
I'm not saying that's fair, just that's what the perception will be imho.
100%duncan
06-15-2012, 07:51 AM
Stop sucking his cock. Bron is the greatest in his generation but not the GOAT.
smaka
06-15-2012, 08:12 AM
GOAT doesn't usually play only 3 quarters out of 4, sorry guys.
rayjayjohnson
06-15-2012, 08:22 AM
^ fuck off cockmaster
rayjayjohnson
06-15-2012, 08:23 AM
Dumb gnsf
DUNCANownsKOBE
06-15-2012, 08:44 AM
lol gay gifs of Spurs players laughing
TIMMYtoZO
06-15-2012, 09:03 AM
He could very well be in the conversation. He will have 4 or 5 rings in Miami.
scanry
06-15-2012, 10:08 AM
lol gay gifs of Spurs players laughing
:lol
Even after all the pounding that he's taken. He goes on adding new gifs.
He will be the scapeGOAT, that's for sure.
Even if he wins a couple of rings LeBron will get the Wilt/Shaq rap imo: that regardless of his dominance and his accomplishments he never quite fulfilled all of the promise hinted at by his physical gifts.
GOAT is reserved for guys like MJ who are seen as having maximized their talent.
I'm not saying that's fair, just that's what the perception will be imho.
Dont see the comparison. Right now the only knock on him is his lack of rings, which anyone with common sense knows hell eventually get. Other than that Bron has been insane on both sides of the ball for his entire career.
Also isnt smaka supposedly an 18 yr old European chick ?
Sportstudi
06-15-2012, 05:10 PM
He could very well be in the conversation. He will have 4 or 5 rings in Miami.
http://captionedgif.com/upload/2012/04/22/20120422083155-c7da98fc.gif
Bynumite
05-31-2018, 11:12 PM
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Clipper Nation
06-01-2018, 12:01 AM
Even if he wins a couple of rings LeBron will get the Wilt/Shaq rap imo: that regardless of his dominance and his accomplishments he never quite fulfilled all of the promise hinted at by his physical gifts.
GOAT is reserved for guys like MJ who are seen as having maximized their talent.
I'm not saying that's fair, just that's what the perception will be imho.
Fast forward to 2018, and LeGOAT's maximized his talent and then some. He's 33 years old and still getting better. The gap between him and the next best player is increasing, not shrinking.
endrity
06-01-2018, 04:33 AM
LeBron could go 0-for-whatever at this point in the finals, and he's 1b at the absolute worst in my book.
The man is legendary, and he's better than ever at 33.
Othyus Lalanne
06-01-2018, 05:56 AM
That would suck because he is as charming as a brick with dog shit on it.
Raven
06-01-2018, 07:34 AM
he needs to win this title to be in the consideration.
Brazil
06-01-2018, 09:17 AM
Lebron deserves to gtgo of Cavs and sign with a powerhouse to win multiple rings. He still has 3/4 good years ahead of him tbh
Lebron deserves to gtgo of Cavs and sign with a powerhouse to win multiple rings. He still has 3/4 good years ahead of him tbh
I think Lebron needs to (and will) escape the gravity of rings = greatness. It's a tough nut to crack, but if players cared more about getting their team to the Finals instead of just being on a team that can make it to the Finals, the game would be better for it.
Of course, he'll be the lone player to do that. The meta will still be stacking.
RsxPiimp
06-01-2018, 10:08 AM
I think Lebron needs to escape the gravity of rings = greatness.
i agree with you D.
Brazil
06-01-2018, 11:19 AM
I think Lebron needs to (and will) escape the gravity of rings = greatness.
well, that would make sense if he was ringless but he already has 3 of them which is not a small achievement... gravity of rings is helping perception of greatness imho.
no harm for his legacy to get a couple more rings playing for a stronger team a bit more off the ball..
lefty
06-01-2018, 11:55 AM
Lebron deserves to gtgo of Cavs and sign with a powerhouse to win multiple rings. He still has 3/4 good years ahead of him tbh
I want this to happen
LeBron with a contender to beat GSW
Fuck those phaggots
Brazil
06-01-2018, 12:01 PM
I want this to happen
LeBron with a contender to beat GSW
Fuck those phaggots
:tu
Galileo
06-01-2018, 12:28 PM
The most dominating basketball player of all time was George Mikan. No one else is even close.
spurraider21
06-01-2018, 01:06 PM
its crazy, as well as curry played, and he looked unguardable for stretches, his impact was never as heavy as lebron's. not even in the same atmosphere.
The most dominating basketball player of all time was George Mikan. No one else is even close.
Yeah and Andre the Giant is the best fighter of all time.
its crazy, as well as curry played, and he looked unguardable for stretches, his impact was never as heavy as lebron's. not even in the same atmosphere.
ISWYDT
dfens
06-01-2018, 05:24 PM
its crazy, as well as curry played, and he looked unguardable for stretches, his impact was never as heavy as lebron's. not even in the same atmosphere.
sons lebron is the goat while curry is just another hof bound player, can't compare in terms of impact.
smh lebron carrying a dleague team like this...
spurraider21
06-01-2018, 05:31 PM
sons lebron is the goat while curry is just another hof bound player, can't compare in terms of impact.
smh lebron carrying a dleague team like this...
yep
glad they were able to rebound their way past boston tbh :lol
JoeTait75
06-01-2018, 07:19 PM
Fast forward to 2018, and LeGOAT's maximized his talent and then some. He's 33 years old and still getting better. The gap between him and the next best player is increasing, not shrinking.
That might be true, but people still raise the bar with LeBron. I mean, in 2016 he leads the Cavaliers back from 3-1 down in the Finals against a 73-win team, but there were still people out there saying, "That's pretty impressive; now he just needs to to this, that and the other thing, and maybe we'll put him in the conversation with MJ." No matter what he does, it'll never be enough for some people.
dfens
06-01-2018, 07:24 PM
yep
glad they were able to rebound their way past boston tbh :lol
boston got a nice young team and a great coach tbh .. it's gonna be interesting going forward.
Didnt watch Bird tbh, but Ill take King James. Once his career is over the King will at the very least be the 2nd GOAT.
I lold at 'possibly Top 5'. Open your eyes niggas, we have never seen a player with the combination of speed, size, and strength that King James has...and its damn hard for me to imagine that its humanly possible for a more physically gifted player to come along. Add the Kings courtvision/awareness and how coordinated he is to the equation, and the likelihood of another LeBron coming along becomes that much smaller. Not an MJ hater but the King will go down as the GOAT. Kirby and even Timmy D will go down as blips during the LeBron era too tbh.
How did so much of ST not see it? 5+ years ago, motherfuckers were still putting Kirby and Bird in the same sentence as LeGOAT. He's a freak of nature, great skill, great courtvision, basketball smart, and he plays the right way. Retards are enamored with having to take shots in the clutch even if they're low percentage but this dude doesn't give a fuck--he always makes the right play. I've always loved that about him. Very Manuesque, tbh.
Clipper Nation
06-01-2018, 07:29 PM
That might be true, but people still raise the bar with LeBron. I mean, in 2016 he leads the Cavaliers back from 3-1 down in the Finals against a 73-win team, but there were still people out there saying, "That's pretty impressive; now he just needs to to this, that and the other thing, and maybe we'll put him in the conversation with MJ." No matter what he does, it'll never be enough for some people.
Those are just haters who are empowered to spew their bullshit by the social media era and 24/7 media cycle (something DK never really had to deal with).
Lebron isn't looking for people to say he's better than Jordan. He's looking to play the perfect game. Why don't people see that? you don't pass like that, cut like that, defend like that... if you're trying to get fan notice for being better than Jordan who's noted mostly for points.
In regulation last night, he got as close as anyone you'll ever see in the Finals not named Tony Parker.
spurraider21
06-01-2018, 08:28 PM
Lebron isn't looking for people to say he's better than Jordan. He's looking to play the perfect game. Why don't people see that? you don't pass like that, cut like that, defend like that... if you're trying to get fan notice for being better than Jordan who's noted mostly for points.
In regulation last night, he got as close as anyone you'll ever see in the Finals not named Tony Parker.
i dont want to be that guy that nitpicks... but if you're going to call him near perfect, then i have to. his defensive effort throughout the game is usually quite poor. he'll ramp it up in closing minutes, but he'll let cutters go, wont hustle for help defense, etc.
not that he doesn't make up for it
JoeTait75
06-01-2018, 08:45 PM
Last night was kind of symbolic of LeBron's career. Plays incredibly, is a man among boys on a floor packed with All-Stars and future HOFers, and one of his teammates doesn't even know what the score of the game is.
It shows again how stupid the RINGZ argument is. There isn't all-time great who has spent more of his career surrounded by incompetent teammates, coaches, front offices and owners than LeBron. He's spent 11 seasons with one of the shittiest organizations in sports (I know it was his choice to come back, but still). The one stretch he spent with a decent organization and teammates with a pulse he won two titles in four years.
The title he won in Cleveland in addition to the two he won in Miami is all the validation he ever needs, imo. How many others could've pulled off what he pulled off in 2016?
phxspurfan
06-01-2018, 09:41 PM
it was his choice to come back
Decisions make everyone's career. He made stupid choices like staying out in the shitty East where his teams were never battle tested enough, never had to be good enough, to compete against whoever came out of the West bloodbath. Besides those front running years he started in Miami. Which was also a stupid decision since a. he left his hometown team to go front run in the middle of his prime, b. he demonstrated he needed all NBA players around him to ring. He had plenty of chances to entertain offers to join other teams in the real conference but didn't. Also, all the personnel choices were his. Down to the days of freaking washed up Shaq and Drew Gooden. Those were all picks he blessed. He is complicit in his own failure and drives good teammates away from him. See Kyrie. Also with IT I guarantee he would have had a better shot this playoffs than with GH3 and Nance/bench warmer Hood.
Decisions make everyone's career. He made stupid choices like staying out in the shitty East where his teams were never battle tested enough, never had to be good enough, to compete against whoever came out of the West bloodbath. Besides those front running years he started in Miami. Which was also a stupid decision since a. he left his hometown team to go front run in the middle of his prime, b. he demonstrated he needed all NBA players around him to ring. He had plenty of chances to entertain offers to join other teams in the real conference but didn't. Also, all the personnel choices were his. Down to the days of freaking washed up Shaq and Drew Gooden. Those were all picks he blessed. He is complicit in his own failure and drives good teammates away from him. See Kyrie. Also with IT I guarantee he would have had a better shot this playoffs than with GH3 and Nance/bench warmer Hood.
Lebron wants guys who get him the ball so he can either pass or shoot. He doesn't want guys like IT or Kyrie who need their own stardom. Not yet.
phxspurfan
06-02-2018, 02:27 AM
Lebron wants guys who get him the ball so he can either pass or shoot. He doesn't want guys like IT or Kyrie who need their own stardom. Not yet.
And yet he needed Kyrie to hit that 3 over Curry to win one in Cleveland. And needed Ray Allen to hit that 3 in Miami to win one over SA (he badly bricked his own shot in that same sequence). He doesn't seem to understand he can be part of a multi-star team to succeed. He always needs to be King and for the whole team to be his subjects
33AdNAnAA8U
Arcadian
06-02-2018, 03:08 AM
The most dominating basketball player of all time was George Mikan. No one else is even close.
:tu I watched a bunch of Mikan videos a few years ago and gained massive respect for him. It's trippy to think about 1950s American culture and how basketball was just becoming popular.
And I remember learning the "Mikan drill" back in grade school.
Othyus Lalanne
06-02-2018, 07:59 AM
Last night was kind of symbolic of LeBron's career. Plays incredibly, is a man among boys on a floor packed with All-Stars and future HOFers, and one of his teammates doesn't even know what the score of the game is.
It shows again how stupid the RINGZ argument is. There isn't all-time great who has spent more of his career surrounded by incompetent teammates, coaches, front offices and owners than LeBron. He's spent 11 seasons with one of the shittiest organizations in sports (I know it was his choice to come back, but still). The one stretch he spent with a decent organization and teammates with a pulse he won two titles in four years.
The title he won in Cleveland in addition to the two he won in Miami is all the validation he ever needs, imo. How many others could've pulled off what he pulled off in 2016?
GM LeBron, Ego Bron and Petty Bron do undermine player Lebron.
GM LeBron, Ego Bron and Petty Bron do undermine player Lebron.
Imagine if Timmy was more vocal in who surrounds him. He wouldn't have had so many "stand pat" years.
dfens
06-02-2018, 12:03 PM
And yet he needed Kyrie to hit that 3 over Curry to win one in Cleveland. And needed Ray Allen to hit that 3 in Miami to win one over SA (he badly bricked his own shot in that same sequence). He doesn't seem to understand he can be part of a multi-star team to succeed. He always needs to be King and for the whole team to be his subjects
33AdNAnAA8U
son you can't be this dumb can you?
Othyus Lalanne
06-02-2018, 02:42 PM
Imagine if Timmy was more vocal in who surrounds him. He wouldn't have had so many "stand pat" years.
I am sure every star wanted to go to SA where the coach will yell at them regardless of PR.
Root CLE if you want all that retarded Bronny drama.
Galileo
06-02-2018, 02:52 PM
Yeah and Andre the Giant is the best fighter of all time.
Check your history. Mikan dominated more than anyone.
Galileo
06-02-2018, 02:52 PM
:tu I watched a bunch of Mikan videos a few years ago and gained massive respect for him. It's trippy to think about 1950s American culture and how basketball was just becoming popular.
And I remember learning the "Mikan drill" back in grade school.
Kudos.
Mikan was the most influential player of all time as well.
Check your history. Mikan dominated more than anyone.
You mean when there were 8 teams?
Be real. No disrespect to Mikan, but you obviously don't use the same standards as everyone else when you call Mikan the most dominant player ever. Might as well say Naismith was, since no one could score before he created the game.
I am sure every star wanted to go to SA where the coach will yell at them regardless of PR.
Root CLE if you want all that retarded Bronny drama.
You: Lebron's GM and coach tendencies are detractors
Me: Timmy should have been more vocal to get more help
You: Root for Lebron if you want
Othyus Lalanne
06-02-2018, 03:47 PM
You: Lebron's GM and coach tendencies are detractors
Me: Timmy should have been more vocal to get more help
You: Root for Lebron if you want
I just it would not had made much of a difference.
Galileo
06-02-2018, 04:03 PM
Yeah and Andre the Giant is the best fighter of all time.
1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sophomore
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion,
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
No one has ever come close to dominating this much for so long.
Name one.
Arcadian
06-02-2018, 04:10 PM
1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sophomore
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion,
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
No one has ever come close to dominating this much for so long.
Name one.
Plus: the goaltending rule, the shot clock, and the lane being wider than 3 feet were all caused by Mikan.
They had to keep the ball away from him to win! One game ended 19-18 as a result, which pretty much inspired the concept of the shot clock.
Chris
06-02-2018, 08:14 PM
What the...?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeuoEwQVAAA1XM2.jpg:large
Galileo
06-02-2018, 08:58 PM
Plus: the goaltending rule, the shot clock, and the lane being wider than 3 feet were all caused by Mikan.
They had to keep the ball away from him to win! One game ended 19-18 as a result, which pretty much inspired the concept of the shot clock.
yep!
Galileo
06-02-2018, 08:59 PM
Plus: the goaltending rule, the shot clock, and the lane being wider than 3 feet were all caused by Mikan.
They had to keep the ball away from him to win! One game ended 19-18 as a result, which pretty much inspired the concept of the shot clock.
And the 3-second rule, too.
:lmao
There were 12 teams in the league.. 12
YMCA teams today would thrash them, repeatedly.
Spurtacular
06-02-2018, 10:49 PM
1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sophomore
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion,
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
No one has ever come close to dominating this much for so long.
Name one.
Bill Russell.
Arcadian
06-02-2018, 11:20 PM
The concept of dominance is relative to context, folks.
Nobody thinks Mikan would win against more modern players. The point is that he dominated his competition more than anyone else dominated their competition in the game of basketball.
Russell had Wilt. Mikan had nobody else on his level.
Galileo
06-03-2018, 04:03 PM
Bill Russell.
Bill Russell was not even as good as Wilt Chamberlain, many believe. To dominate you must be clearly the best.
Spurtacular
06-03-2018, 04:15 PM
Bill Russell was not even as good as Wilt Chamberlain, many believe. To dominate you must be clearly the best.
You asked who has come close to matching it and you got your answer. That you subjectively think someone else was better at the time has nothing to do with it. If Chamberlain had played in Mikan's time, would he have the same level of accomplishments or even be considered better?
Galileo
06-03-2018, 05:12 PM
You asked who has come close to matching it and you got your answer. That you subjectively think someone else was better at the time has nothing to do with it. If Chamberlain had played in Mikan's time, would he have the same level of accomplishments or even be considered better?
If Mikan got better medical care instead of that 1940s crap, he would still be dominating. He blew out his knee and couldn't walk for years when he was a kid when he grew up, and got 10 broken bones in the NBA. I'd like to see a sissy like Lebron or Wilt play in the 1940s with the horrid, almost medieval medical care that went on.
Fabbs
06-03-2018, 05:46 PM
:lmao
There were 12 teams in the league.. 12
YMCA teams today would thrash them, repeatedly.
:lol todays soy eating YMCA's taking on Wilt.
:lmao
Brazil
06-04-2018, 09:53 AM
remember the ol days when Lakers fans were trying to argue about Kobe being > Lebron...
:lmao
ambchang
06-04-2018, 01:18 PM
remember the ol days when Lakers fans were trying to argue about Kobe being > Lebron...
:lmao
Yeah, they are still doing it today.
hater
06-04-2018, 04:02 PM
If Lebron loses this series he will be closer to a perenial Finals loser than a goat tbqh
MJ had 6 finals appearances and 6 titles
You cant come back with anything to counter that given Lebron would be 3-5
Arcadian
06-04-2018, 05:16 PM
If Lebron loses this series he will be closer to a perenial Finals loser than a goat tbqh
MJ had 6 finals appearances and 6 titles
You cant come back with anything to counter that given Lebron would be 3-5
He's already 3-5. He'll be 3-6 now.
lefty
06-04-2018, 05:43 PM
If Lebron loses this series he will be closer to a perenial Finals loser than a goat tbqh
MJ had 6 finals appearances and 6 titles
You cant come back with anything to counter that given Lebron would be 3-5
MJ would have been obliterated by the teams LeBron has faced in the Finals
Galileo
06-04-2018, 07:07 PM
1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sophomore
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion,
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
No one has ever come close to dominating this much for so long.
Name one.
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1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sophomore
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader, MVP of WPBT
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion, WPBT champion, WPBT MVP, WPBT leading scorer
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
resistanze
06-04-2018, 07:44 PM
If Lebron loses this series he will be closer to a perenial Finals loser than a goat tbqh
MJ had 6 finals appearances and 6 titles
You cant come back with anything to counter that given Lebron would be 3-5
Why are you using MJ in your example and not Bill Russell? Isn't he the GOAT?
Fabbs
06-04-2018, 07:48 PM
Got to rap with 4 year Stanford player today.
We both lamented what a burn job the refs did on what was an epic performance by LeBron in Game 1.
One for the ages really.
Combined with Phaggot Durant will not be remembered for his charge / choke turnover against the King. Not that it was a terrible play by Durbetta but
:lol 2nd best player in NBA -GTFO with that fabricated b.s.
lefty
06-04-2018, 08:08 PM
Why are you using MJ in your example and not Bill Russell? Isn't he the GOAT?
It's called moving the goal posts for MJ
spurraider21
06-04-2018, 08:20 PM
mikan dominated the league and forced numerous rule changes... but played at a time where the game was completely archaic and the level of competition was laughable.
a modern YMCA team would crush those NBA teams tbh
Arcadian
06-04-2018, 10:30 PM
mikan dominated the league and forced numerous rule changes... but played at a time where the game was completely archaic and the level of competition was laughable.
a modern YMCA team would crush those NBA teams tbh
It had to start somewhere. Mikan just happened to be the first 6'10 guy to find weak points in the original rules of basketball and capitalize on them. If he didn't, someone else would have. But give him credit for being that guy.
I don't see why every mention of his dominance has to come with a generic YMCA insult. It isn't his fault for being born in the '20s.
Avante
06-04-2018, 10:39 PM
When comparing players/athletes ya MUST go with.....DOMINANCE OF ERA. That is the only way to do this.
There are high school kids out there right now today who would dust Jesse Owens in a 100m. That simply doesn't matter it's never about that.
The greatest WR in history was Don Hutson, nobody ever dominated their position like he did. Could he play today, sure (9.8 speed) but he wouldn't stand out.
Jordan is THE GOAT, his accomplishments in his day warrant that. James has a ways to go before he is in a legit GOAT discussion.
Fabbs
06-04-2018, 11:28 PM
It had to start somewhere. Mikan just happened to be the first 6'10 guy to find weak points in the original rules of basketball and capitalize on them. If he didn't, someone else would have. But give him credit for being that guy.
I don't see why every mention of his dominance has to come with a generic YMCA insult. It isn't his fault for being born in the '20s.
Exactly.
Have the YMCA Krew be born in 1920 and have Mikan born in 1992. With all the improved diet and game development see how the YMCA Krew does. :rollin
lefty
06-05-2018, 12:15 AM
:wow imagine Mikan with today's nutrition and training
:lol on the other hand, imagine KD with yesterday's training and nutrition
Mikeanaro
06-05-2018, 12:37 AM
i dont know about GOATs but Leroy is better than Jordan, He does everything dad killer did but also has a 3 pointer and much better court vision/playmaking.
Also beat the most overrated team ever with a bunch of scrubs (except Irving) while Jordan did everything just with the Bulls.
Spurtacular
06-05-2018, 01:31 AM
It had to start somewhere. Mikan just happened to be the first 6'10 guy to find weak points in the original rules of basketball and capitalize on them. If he didn't, someone else would have. But give him credit for being that guy.
I don't see why every mention of his dominance has to come with a generic YMCA insult. It isn't his fault for being born in the '20s.
Cucks are averse to white guys dominating.
AaronY
06-05-2018, 01:45 AM
remember the ol days when Lakers fans were trying to argue about Kobe being > Lebron...
:lmao
iirc Medvedenko had that
"How he king with no rings"
meme image of Kobe laughing for several years :lmao :lmao
Medvedenko :lmao
highlights in his hair :lmao
Kobe>Lebron :lmao
AaronY
06-05-2018, 01:46 AM
i dont know about GOATs but Leroy is better than Jordan, He does everything dad killer did but also has a 3 pointer and much better court vision/playmaking.
Also beat the most overrated team ever with a bunch of scrubs (except Irving) while Jordan did everything just with the Bulls.
If he beat the most overrated team ever why was it such an accomplishment?
Mikeanaro
06-05-2018, 02:02 AM
If he beat the most overrated team ever why was it such an accomplishment?
1- Because thats what media is selling, as they sell MJ is the GOAT.
2- The 73 win is inflated, refs did everything they could to help GS, even forcing OT it was pathetic.
3- MJ himself never had great competition either, for example that Barkley team wasnt staked.
4- When MJ played against good Celtics/Pistons ate shit.
5- The only way he could achieve something was with a staked team and because Pistons/Lakers were disbanding or getting AIDS.
6- Lebron can take shitty teams to the Finals as much as he wants, 4 finals with the cHeat, but 5 with Cavs.
7- When GS won in 2015 it was overrated, they played against injured teams, as much as this run Spurs Pels Rox, and now a depleted Cavs team, so if they win THEY ARE THE GREATEST CHAMPIONS EVA? They even had problems with Rox until refs stepped up.
8- Why the fuck are you asking such stupid millennial questions? are you that idiot full-time or do you take breaks?
FrostKing
09-13-2018, 05:47 PM
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FrostKing
10-11-2018, 02:47 PM
Interesting how he ran off to the West now that the massive Conference imbalanace is evening out
BatManu20
10-11-2018, 05:30 PM
I think Lebron will win 2-3 more rings in his career tbh. Only I’m pretty comfident KD and/or Kawhi will be signing with LA next year. That alone, combined with their young talented core and the demise of the Warriors, will make the Lakers the best team in the NBA and title favorites for years to come. The NBA will be wack as fuck if/when this happens, but it’s the easiest way to ring these days, and as we’ve seen, many millennial athletes want the easiest path.
Fabbs
10-11-2018, 05:45 PM
Only I’m pretty comfident KD
What makes you think KD will leave the Gay Area next year?
I look for WarriorRef and krew to last at least 2 years from now. Thereby Kevina coatailing for 2 more seasons.
Or do you think one of the main Twinkys will go out with an injury? Like Stephon or Duranta? I don't think so he looks like he's keeping roided up plus he has to play zero defense.
Othyus Lalanne
10-14-2018, 01:54 AM
What makes you think KD will leave the Gay Area next year?
I look for WarriorRef and krew to last at least 2 years from now. Thereby Kevina coatailing for 2 more seasons.
Or do you think one of the main Twinkys will go out with an injury? Like Stephon or Duranta? I don't think so he looks like he's keeping roided up plus he has to play zero defense.
He got rings but no credit for it. That is why he is acting so strange.
Bynumite
10-14-2018, 02:02 AM
Lebron's already the GOAT, at this point he's only widening the gap between him and the rest and further cementing his legacy tbh :wakeup
Kawhi’s_Conscience
10-14-2018, 07:24 AM
Lebron's already the GOAT, at this point he's only widening the gap between him and the rest and further cementing his legacy tbh :wakeup
:lol weren’t you a lebozo hater at one point?
Rummpd
10-14-2018, 08:58 AM
If LeBron gets to 5 championships with all his other accomplishments he will be the GOAT.
lefty
10-14-2018, 11:15 AM
Sigh
The ringz argument
FrostKing
10-14-2018, 12:32 PM
Who?
Legit asking this person is barely known outside North America
He got rings but no credit for it. That is why he is acting so strange.
He has b2b Finals MVPs. He's getting plenty credit. He's not leaving to play with Lebron to get "credit" :lol
Lebron's already the GOAT, at this point he's only widening the gap between him and the rest and further cementing his legacy tbh :wakeup
He passed 12 years ago.
If LeBron gets to 5 championships with all his other accomplishments he will be the GOAT.
I'll let him know.
Othyus Lalanne
10-15-2018, 05:13 AM
He has b2b Finals MVPs. He's getting plenty credit. He's not leaving to play with Lebron to get "credit" :lol
His rings are like Weimar currency and get treated as such.
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