Explain Restaurant Gratuity

[Edward]

The commercial for the fudge fountain does them no favors, imo
I still like the one where the black couple jumps out of the car because they dread going to an actual restaurant with the white couple:

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[SpurinDallas]

Do waiters really get pissed at people splitting? I mean, I know it lessens the bill, but would that really bother people?

That's why I specifically mentioned teenagers and the girls wanting to split plates. Teenagers are already cheap as it is, and you never expect much from them, so when they start lowering the tab, your already small tip is just getting smaller. It sucks when you have 6 teens sit at a table and spend 50 bucks. A table of 6 adults should be at least a legit $100 tab.

[Blake]

I still like the one where the black couple jumps out of the car because they dread going to an actual restaurant with the white couple:

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Holy shit :lol

[Winehole23]

bottle service wrinkle: tipping on bottles of wine.

personally, I tip on the bottom line amount, but can understand why some people are confused. wherever a corkage fee is taken, it seems to be more or less assumed you will be reluctant to tip on bottle service (and if you aren't, the fee might make you think twice.)

for some folks level of service figures in: a server's thoughtful pairing or recommendation would seem to count for more than merely bringing the bottle you ordered and pouring it around.

also, wine service is far quicker and (apparently) far less complicated than dinner service. why should one tip as much (or more) on the wine as the meal, when the details of the latter are (again, apparently) far less challenging for the server?

I would imagine this comes up some for people (not me, alas) who like to drink collectible or otherwise world class wine with their meal. If you order a $50 steak with a $500 wine, does it make sense to tip $100?

Why or why not?

[Blake]

Next time bring a flask

[Winehole23]

you're goddammed right I do. at the football game.

[Winehole23]

seriously, you take a hip flask to restaurants?

[I. Hustle]

Flasks for missions games are a must.

[Blake]

seriously, you take a hip flask to restaurants?

Na, it was a suggestion to avoid the $100 tip.

Fwiw, if you've got the cash to lay down 5 benjamins for wine, then laying down one more for gratuity shouldn't be a dilemma. You just do it or you order water. Or bring a flask.

[SpurinDallas]

bottle service wrinkle: tipping on bottles of wine.

personally, I tip on the bottom line amount, but can understand why some people are confused. wherever a corkage fee is taken, it seems to be more or less assumed you will be reluctant to tip on bottle service (and if you aren't, the fee might make you think twice.)

for some folks level of service figures in: a server's thoughtful pairing or recommendation would seem to count for more than merely bringing the bottle you ordered and pouring it around.

also, wine service is far quicker and (apparently) far less complicated than dinner service. why should one tip as much (or more) on the wine as the meal, when the details of the latter are (again, apparently) far less challenging for the server?

I would imagine this comes up some for people (not me, alas) who like to drink collectible or otherwise world class wine with their meal. If you order a $50 steak with a $500 wine, does it make sense to tip $100?

Why or why not?

Servers have to tip out the bar a percentage of their total alcohol sales after a shift. If you don't tip accordingly on that $500 bottle of wine, the server still has to tip out the bartender for a percentage of that bottle sale. You being a cheap bastard probably just cost that server more money to serve you than making any at all.

[I. Hustle]

$500 bottle of wine doesn't sound like a cheap bastard.
What does sound dumb to me is having to tip out on a bottle of wine when all they did was take it out and open it up.

[O.J. Simpson]

Servers have to tip out the bar a percentage of their total alcohol sales after a shift. If you don't tip accordingly on that $500 bottle of wine, the server still has to tip out the bartender for a percentage of that bottle sale. You being a cheap bastard probably just cost that server more money to serve you than making any at all.

Fuck servers, get a new job instead about bitching about my donations to you people.

[Winehole23]

Na, it was a suggestion to avoid the $100 tip.

Fwiw, if you've got the cash to lay down 5 benjamins for wine, then laying down one more for gratuity shouldn't be a dilemma. You just do it or you order water. Or bring a flask.for me it's about the enjoyment. I enjoy wine throughout the meal. the tip is appreciation for the entire experience, not just a job of work. imho.

[SpurinDallas]

$500 bottle of wine doesn't sound like a cheap bastard.
What does sound dumb to me is having to tip out on a bottle of wine when all they did was take it out and open it up.

Thats true, but nevertheless, servers still have to tip out the bartender for that bottle of wine, whether the table tips on it or not.

[Blake]

$500 bottle of wine doesn't sound like a cheap bastard.
What does sound dumb to me is having to tip out on a bottle of wine when all they did was take it out and open it up.

The whole concept of restaurant gratuity seems dumb to me, but it is what it is.

[Winehole23]

Servers have to tip out the bar a percentage of their total alcohol sales after a shift. If you don't tip accordingly on that $500 bottle of wine, the server still has to tip out the bartender for a percentage of that bottle sale. You being a cheap bastard probably just cost that server more money to serve you than making any at all.uh, I'm not the one who's unclear on the concept. you need to talk to my dad.

[SpurinDallas]

Fuck servers, get a new job instead about bitching about my donations to you people.

LOL. I figured some dumbass would chime in with something like this.

I waited tables at the Magic Time Machine while in college in the late 90's. I only went back to waiting tables in 2008 after being laid off from being in Telecom for almost 9 years. I had to do something to keep some kind of income coming in while I was out looking for work again. Trust me, its extremely humbling for a college educated, 30-something, to wait tables full time, but I only had to do it for less than a year. But you gotta do what you gotta do.

With that said, fuck off.

[SpurinDallas]

uh, I'm not the one who's unclear on the concept. you need to talk to my dad.

I've run into a lot of the older generation who seems to tip like its still 1965. LOL. It is what it is. :lol

[Winehole23]

Thats true, but nevertheless, servers still have to tip out the bartender for that bottle of wine, whether the table tips on it or not.often, but not always true. tip policies can vary from place to place.

[SpurinDallas]

often, but not always true. tip policies can vary from place to place.

Both places I've ever worked at required us to tip the bar according to our alcohol sales. I imagine if you are eating at a restaurant that serves $500 bottles of wine, they have this same policy.

[baseline bum]

Na, it was a suggestion to avoid the $100 tip.

Fwiw, if you've got the cash to lay down 5 benjamins for wine, then laying down one more for gratuity shouldn't be a dilemma. You just do it or you order water. Or bring a flask.

What are you, a millionaire throwing Benjamins around like they're nothing?

[Winehole23]

Both places I've ever worked at required us to tip the bar according to our alcohol sales. I imagine if you are eating at a restaurant that serves $500 bottles of wine, they have this same policy.yeah well, some places do it other ways. imagine whatever you want.

[Winehole23]

there's more than two bars in the world

[O.J. Simpson]

LOL. I figured some dumbass would chime in with something like this.

I waited tables at the Magic Time Machine while in college in the late 90's. I only went back to waiting tables in 2008 after being laid off from being in Telecom for almost 9 years. I had to do something to keep some kind of income coming in while I was out looking for work again. Trust me, its extremely humbling for a college educated, 30-something, to wait tables full time, but I only had to do it for less than a year. But you gotta do what you gotta do.

With that said, fuck off.

When I give you spineless jellyfish handouts, I expect a 'yes sir' and 'thank you sir'. My CO gives me better service than you people.

Why don't you beg your boss to pay you more than 95 cents a hour, faggot?

[Winehole23]

What are you, a millionaire throwing Benjamins around like they're nothing?:lol

[SpurinDallas]

When I give you spineless jellyfish handouts, I expect a 'yes sir' and 'thank you sir'. My CO gives me better service than you people.

Why don't you beg your boss to pay you more than 95 cents a hour, faggot?

:lol It was 75 cents more an hour, homo.

[O.J. Simpson]

Well obviously I've been tipping too much, thank you.

[SpurinDallas]

Well obviously I've been tipping too much, thank you.

Obviously

[Blake]

What are you, a millionaire throwing Benjamins around like they're nothing?

I don't order $500 bottles from a restaurant because I can't afford $100 tips.
Does it say somewhere on the menu that a 20% gratuity is not necessary for bar drinks?

why would anyone assume otherwise?

[Monostradamus]

What does sound dumb to me is having to tip out on a bottle of wine when all they did was take it out and open it up.

It's also dumb to tip for a steak when all he did was grab it out of the kitchen and hand it to you. But that's how the system is. If you don't like it, move to Europe.

[MannyIsGod]

bottle service wrinkle: tipping on bottles of wine.

personally, I tip on the bottom line amount, but can understand why some people are confused. wherever a corkage fee is taken, it seems to be more or less assumed you will be reluctant to tip on bottle service (and if you aren't, the fee might make you think twice.)

for some folks level of service figures in: a server's thoughtful pairing or recommendation would seem to count for more than merely bringing the bottle you ordered and pouring it around.

also, wine service is far quicker and (apparently) far less complicated than dinner service. why should one tip as much (or more) on the wine as the meal, when the details of the latter are (again, apparently) far less challenging for the server?

I would imagine this comes up some for people (not me, alas) who like to drink collectible or otherwise world class wine with their meal. If you order a $50 steak with a $500 wine, does it make sense to tip $100?

Why or why not?

You didn't even bring up corking fees! Do you have to tip on a corking fee? I drink my wine at home, TBQH. I loath going to a resteraunt and seeing wine list because of of the insane markup. At least with the food its being prepared for me. WTF am I paying for when all you do is open a bottle of wine?

Wine markups are just too damn nuts for me to deal with. Corking fees piss me off even more. 30 bucks for you to open my own bottle of wine? Yeah how about no.

[MannyIsGod]

Servers have to tip out the bar a percentage of their total alcohol sales after a shift. If you don't tip accordingly on that $500 bottle of wine, the server still has to tip out the bartender for a percentage of that bottle sale. You being a cheap bastard probably just cost that server more money to serve you than making any at all.

:lol @ being a cheap bastard because you don't want to tip someone for turning a corkscrew on an already incredibly marked up price on a bottle of wine. How about fuck you?

Look, when I valet parked I didn't expect people to tip me based on the price of the car I parked.

[baseline bum]

:lol @ being a cheap bastard because you don't want to tip someone for turning a corkscrew on an already incredibly marked up price on a bottle of wine. How about fuck you?

Look, when I valet parked I didn't expect people to tip me based on the price of the car I parked.

Not sure you can compare valet parking to wine corking tbh, unless you got paid just for turning the key or something.

[I. Hustle]

It's also dumb to tip for a steak when all he did was grab it out of the kitchen and hand it to you. But that's how the system is. If you don't like it, move to Europe.

Makes more sense to me to tip the cook. I agree.

[ploto]

A table of 6 adults should be at least a legit $100 tab.

Why should people spend $100 if they can't eat $100 worth of food.

More and more restaurants are creating menus with either multiple size portions, or even smaller entrees for smaller appetites. It is not the customer's fault that you serve portions that are meant for a huge man!

I do admit to enjoying at times the waiter who makes assumptions based upon what I order. I order water because I drink water. It is better for you. That does not make me cheap. I do not order alcohol because I do not drink alcohol. I might split with someone because it is too much food for me. Then, you have the waiter who pays no attention to you and gives you the bad service because he thinks you have a low check, but he has no clue that you might be a very good tipper.

[DPG21920]

Or maybe he doesn't want to waste his/her time on people that are rude regardless of what that means for their money.

[ploto]

Or maybe he doesn't want to waste his/her time on people that are rude regardless of what that means for their money.

Went to eat this weekend. The bill was $18. The waiter brought me water; kept my water full; brought out my food. Simple good service. I handed the guy $30. He gave me his name and told me to make sure to ask for him the next time.

[DPG21920]

That was cool of you. But what does that have to do with you thinking it's ok to cut people off mid-sentence?

[DPG21920]

But I agree - people, especially sales people, need not be short-sighted (lol me). Focus on providing good service regardless and you will do well. Help people buy, don't sell.

[Jimcs50]

The waiters have to declare a certain percentage of their total sales as income. So if check is higher, as in expensive restaurants, then he is paying income taxes on that amount so if you do not give him/her 15%, then he will be paying income tax on money he did not make.

Now I think the percentage he has to declare is around 7%, so he can get stiffed a time or two and he won't lose money