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The Batman
06-16-2012, 03:23 PM
Melo's still here. Who are yours?

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 03:25 PM
That you hated or fans of other teams hated?

I hated: Matt Barnes, Shannon Brown, Danny Schayes

Others hated: Raja Bell. Amare Stoudemire.

The Batman
06-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Yea I meant ones that you hated.

Lincoln
06-16-2012, 03:30 PM
Haywood, Antoine wright, Deavean George, Lamar odom

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-16-2012, 03:34 PM
Barbosa and Diaw.

Barbosa because he was stupid as shit, choked when it mattered, and for whatever reason got credit for a strong work ethic when he didn't add anything to his game while he was here.

Diaw because he was lazy as shit and would have made the 2007 Suns unstoppable if he actually tried hard.


I hated Marion the last season but he for the most part did all you could expect from him in his situation. I've gotten sick and tired of Nashketball but I don't hold it personally against Nash but moreso fans who'd rather watch Nash for another 2 years than start rebuilding now.

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-16-2012, 03:36 PM
I also hate A LOT of current day Suns players (Warrick, Childress, Frye, Brown, Robin Lopez, etc.).

tesseractive
06-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Dennis Fucking Rodman.

Vinny Del Negro. Lazy fuck.

Our succession of shitty post-Robinson post players lining up next to Duncan, not counting Horry.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2012, 03:43 PM
No particular order

Pippen
Kelvin Cato
Bryce Drew
Brad Miller
Kevin Martin
Aaron Brooks
Terrance Williams
Stromile Swift
Trevor Ariza
Yao

JoeTait75
06-16-2012, 03:44 PM
I have a feeling in two or three years I'm going to strongly dislike Tristan Thompson if he's still here because a.) he's still going to suck and b.) Cavaliers fans are still going to pretend that he's eventually going to not suck.

Others: Larry Hughes, Bob Sura (I wanted Michael Finley in the '95 draft and they took this tool instead), Jiri Welsch, Omri Casspi.

EDIT: Not a real big Mo Williams fan, either.

eyeh8u
06-16-2012, 03:56 PM
turkoglu

DMC
06-16-2012, 04:13 PM
Matt Bonner/Mike Finley

Not hated as individuals, but hated to see them get minutes based on irrational respect from the coach.

Kai
06-16-2012, 04:16 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/1999/04/22/pippen_arrested/t1_pippen_all_01.jpg

Reck
06-16-2012, 04:17 PM
Dislike is a better word. You cant hate someone you haven't even met.

From the Spurs I dislike Blair a ton and dont really care for Bonner whatsoever.

Lakers- Bynum, Blake, Ebanks

Mavs- Marion, Delonte

Knicks- Smith, Bibby, Jeffries

Hawks- ALL OF THEM!


That's about all that I can think of at the moment.

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 04:28 PM
Barbosa and Diaw.

Barbosa because he was stupid as shit, choked when it mattered, and for whatever reason got credit for a strong work ethic when he didn't add anything to his game while he was here.

Diaw because he was lazy as shit and would have made the 2007 Suns unstoppable if he actually tried hard.


I hated Marion the last season but he for the most part did all you could expect from him in his situation. I've gotten sick and tired of Nashketball but I don't hold it personally against Nash but moreso fans who'd rather watch Nash for another 2 years than start rebuilding now.

I'd take Barbosa, Diaw and Marion back in a second. Much better than the likes of Childress, Warrick, Shannon Brown etc.

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 04:29 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/1999/04/22/pippen_arrested/t1_pippen_all_01.jpg

:lol

What cracks me up is how Barkley rips on Lebron for not "doing it on his own".

I want to scream "Werent you on a team with Scottie Pippen AND Hakeem Olajuwon?!!!"

Pelicans78
06-16-2012, 05:16 PM
Ariza and Kaman.

JMarkJohns
06-16-2012, 05:20 PM
:lol

What cracks me up is how Barkley rips on Lebron for not "doing it on his own".

I want to scream "Werent you on a team with Scottie Pippen AND Hakeem Olajuwon?!!!"

Only after spending his entire career as the only superstar on teams. He was well into his 30s when he went to the Rockets. Still a good player, but closer to the Celtics trio than the Heat's. It's one thing to sort of combine deteriorating skills late in a career. It's something entirely weaker to join forces as 26-28 year-olds in your primes to manufacture a potential dynasty.

Barkley tried to do it on his own for over 10 years and didn't request a trade to a contender until after several back surgeries. Just not even close to the same.

JMarkJohns
06-16-2012, 05:22 PM
As for the question... Ainge. Hate that weaselly little punk.

Then transplants like Horry or Ellie who killed the Suns as Rockets.

Then D'Antoni, who's a coach, but barely one.

Kai
06-16-2012, 05:22 PM
Quality Sun fans making a comeback

mavs>spurs
06-16-2012, 05:29 PM
Dick Breath
Lamar Odom
Dampier
Doug Christie
antoine walker

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 05:53 PM
Only after spending his entire career as the only superstar on teams. He was well into his 30s when he went to the Rockets. Still a good player, but closer to the Celtics trio than the Heat's. It's one thing to sort of combine deteriorating skills late in a career. It's something entirely weaker to join forces as 26-28 year-olds in your primes to manufacture a potential dynasty.

Barkley tried to do it on his own for over 10 years and didn't request a trade to a contender until after several back surgeries. Just not even close to the same.

When did Barkley have back surgery?

Answer: After his career was over.

When did Barkley demand a trade?

Answer: Summer 1996.


Likewise, if Barkley was doing it "on his own" when he came to the Suns as a 29 year old, then Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Danny Ainge, Tom Chambers, Cedric Ceballos and later AC Green and Danny Manning are truly underrated.

JMarkJohns
06-16-2012, 06:26 PM
When did Barkley have back surgery?

Answer: After his career was over.

When did Barkley demand a trade?

Answer: Summer 1996.


Likewise, if Barkley was doing it "on his own" when he came to the Suns as a 29 year old, then Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Danny Ainge, Tom Chambers, Cedric Ceballos and later AC Green and Danny Manning are truly underrated.

Back rehab, then... fact of the matter is, Barkley was hobbled for years prior to demanding the trade.

As for the team, they may all indeed be underrated, but KJ with Barkley was a thrice-operated PG, not the 22-11 force pre 1992, Chambers was in decline and only on the 1992-93 team, and Majerle was shown to be a quality, but unspectacular player in Cleveland and Miami. Ceballos could score, and did whenever he wasn't injured, but he was injured a lot, and was then traded to LA. Manning was solid, but oft-injured and was in decline as well, and AC Green and Ainge were nothing but role players at best.

Nobody wins the Title by themselves (save for maybe Hakeem in 1994), but the point is that Barkley had only a few select random All-Stars, several in decline former All-Stars, but no dominant All-Stars or other Superstar, not even in the same way that Payton had Kemp, Malone had Stockton, Jordan had Pippen, etc.

So, after trying to be the man on some mediocre to talented teams but do so without the aid of a true dominant #2 for roughly 12 years, an aging and now often injured Barkley requested a trade to a previous champion that still had a shot at a ring with his addition.

It's not anywhere close to a 26-YO, in-prime MVP joining forces with two other in-prime All-Stars in a manufactured venture to win a decade's worth of Titles outside of the circumstantial aspects of a regular 10-12-year prime career.

#41 Shoot Em Up
06-16-2012, 06:28 PM
Antoine Walker
Lamar Odom
Shawn Bradley
Diop

timtonymanu
06-16-2012, 06:31 PM
2008-2010 Michael Finley, Matt Bonner, and Richard Jefferson are obvious choices. But I hated all of them.

I also didn't like Beno Udrih.

Another player I hated that didn't get much hate when he was here was Roger Mason Jr. The fucker wanted to be traded but he couldn't hit a fucking 3 pointer to save his life.

baseline bum
06-16-2012, 06:37 PM
Vinny Del Negro
Samaki Walker
Steve Smith
Paul Pressey
Beno Udrih

baseline bum
06-16-2012, 06:39 PM
Back rehab, then... fact of the matter is, Barkley was hobbled for years prior to demanding the trade.

As for the team, they may all indeed be underrated, but KJ with Barkley was a thrice-operated PG, not the 22-11 force pre 1992, Chambers was in decline and only on the 1992-93 team, and Majerle was shown to be a quality, but unspectacular player in Cleveland and Miami. Ceballos could score, and did whenever he wasn't injured, but he was injured a lot, and was then traded to LA. Manning was solid, but oft-injured and was in decline as well, and AC Green and Ainge were nothing but role players at best.

Nobody wins the Title by themselves (save for maybe Hakeem in 1994), but the point is that Barkley had only a few select random All-Stars, several in decline former All-Stars, but no dominant All-Stars or other Superstar, not even in the same way that Payton had Kemp, Malone had Stockton, Jordan had Pippen, etc.

So, after trying to be the man on some mediocre to talented teams but do so without the aid of a true dominant #2 for roughly 12 years, an aging and now often injured Barkley requested a trade to a previous champion that still had a shot at a ring with his addition.

It's not anywhere close to a 26-YO, in-prime MVP joining forces with two other in-prime All-Stars in a manufactured venture to win a decade's worth of Titles outside of the circumstantial aspects of a regular 10-12-year prime career.

If Richard Dumas wasn't such a fuck-up those mid-90s Suns would have been ridiculously stacked. Damn I wanted to see them ring.

timtonymanu
06-16-2012, 06:41 PM
Forgot about Steve Smith.

I wasn't around during the Rodman/Del Negro era but I know they are another popular choice.

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-16-2012, 07:02 PM
If Richard Dumas wasn't such a fuck-up those mid-90s Suns would have been ridiculously stacked. Damn I wanted to see them ring.
KJ never being the same after Duckworth fucked up his hamstring in the playoffs was also a factor too. The Suns were also running a train on the league in 95 before Danny Manning's injury.

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-16-2012, 07:08 PM
I'd take Barbosa, Diaw and Marion back in a second. Much better than the likes of Childress, Warrick, Shannon Brown etc.
I probably wouldn't hate any of them if they weren't so overpaid, and the common denominator with the overpaid role players is Sarver ironically enough. Barbosa and Diaw got their stupid contracts because Sarver didn't want to replace Colangelo so he had the coach play GM, while Warrick and Childress got their stupid contracts because Sarver didn't want to pay Kerr so he hired an agent to play GM.

His dumbass is too stupid to realize that Childress's abortion of a contract alone that was given out because he hired Childress's agent as the GM is more of a drain on his wallet than the qualified GM he refuses to hire. As much as Sarver has the reputation of cheap, his stupidity has been a much bigger issue for the Suns than his cheapness.

Huey Freeman
06-16-2012, 07:09 PM
Antoine Walker
Lamar Odom

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 07:11 PM
Back rehab, then... fact of the matter is, Barkley was hobbled for years prior to demanding the trade.

As for the team, they may all indeed be underrated, but KJ with Barkley was a thrice-operated PG, not the 22-11 force pre 1992, Chambers was in decline and only on the 1992-93 team, and Majerle was shown to be a quality, but unspectacular player in Cleveland and Miami. Ceballos could score, and did whenever he wasn't injured, but he was injured a lot, and was then traded to LA. Manning was solid, but oft-injured and was in decline as well, and AC Green and Ainge were nothing but role players at best.

Nobody wins the Title by themselves (save for maybe Hakeem in 1994), but the point is that Barkley had only a few select random All-Stars, several in decline former All-Stars, but no dominant All-Stars or other Superstar, not even in the same way that Payton had Kemp, Malone had Stockton, Jordan had Pippen, etc.

So, after trying to be the man on some mediocre to talented teams but do so without the aid of a true dominant #2 for roughly 12 years, an aging and now often injured Barkley requested a trade to a previous champion that still had a shot at a ring with his addition.

It's not anywhere close to a 26-YO, in-prime MVP joining forces with two other in-prime All-Stars in a manufactured venture to win a decade's worth of Titles outside of the circumstantial aspects of a regular 10-12-year prime career.

Were just not going to agree.

KJ made all star team in 94 and Majerle started for west all star team in 95. Neither were as good as a Wade or a Pippen but Barkley had all the talent in the world around him compared to what Lebron had in Cleveland.

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 07:18 PM
KJ had multiple 40 point games against the Rockets in 95:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505140HOU.html

KJ brought his "A" game. Charles did not.

baseline bum
06-16-2012, 07:20 PM
I can't understand the Rocket fans hating on Pippen. I mean, what did you expect him to produce when he was given a Mario Charlmers kind of role to shoot desperation threes at the shot clock buzzer when the Barkley/Olajuwon hero-ball isos broke down?

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-16-2012, 07:20 PM
KJ had multiple 40 point games against the Rockets in 95:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505140HOU.html

KJ brought his "A" game. Charles did not.
True, Barkley has himself to blame for losing that series. KJ wasn't the one playing 36 holes of golf and getting drunk the day before games.

da_suns_fan
06-16-2012, 07:26 PM
Ugh...Wesley Person. Burn. In. Hell:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=894&dat=19950615&id=Sh0OAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lH0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3410,1945500

baseline bum
06-16-2012, 07:28 PM
True, Barkley has himself to blame for losing that series. KJ wasn't the one playing 36 holes of golf and getting drunk the day before games.

Was he getting drunk on the bench in this one?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505130HOU.html

djohn2oo8
06-16-2012, 07:32 PM
I can't understand the Rocket fans hating on Pippen. I mean, what did you expect him to produce when he was given a Mario Charlmers kind of role to shoot desperation threes at the shot clock buzzer when the Barkley/Olajuwon hero-ball isos broke down?
The way he went about blasting his teammates , and the city..

baseline bum
06-16-2012, 07:33 PM
The way he went about blasting his teammates , and the city..

Barkley deserved to get blasted, real talk.

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-16-2012, 07:36 PM
Was he getting drunk on the bench in this one?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505130HOU.html
I know a cop who worked security for the team at the time and he said Barkley really started to get out of hand once they took a 3-1 lead, so idk about that one. I know Majerle did plenty of drinking with him too after they took the 3-1 lead.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2012, 07:41 PM
Barkley deserved to get blasted, real talk.
No doubt.

jag
06-16-2012, 08:54 PM
Rasho Nesterovic
Jacques Vaughn
Nazr Mohammed
Richard Jefferson
Michael Finley
Keith Bogans
Anthony Carter

Didn't hate any of them, but I hated seeing them on the floor.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2012, 09:07 PM
Not a single spursfan mentioned Devin Brown? :lol

baseline bum
06-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Not a single spursfan mentioned Devin Brown? :lol

Who cares about blowing one regular season game?

djohn2oo8
06-16-2012, 09:45 PM
Who cares about blowing one regular season game?
Seen it mentioned multiple times before in different threads. Surprised a few people thought that was one of the most painful moments.

Venti Quattro
06-16-2012, 10:21 PM
Ron Artest
Matt Barnes

uh and we have Kobe.

Harry Callahan
06-16-2012, 10:25 PM
Dennis Rodman (quit on team, psycho)
Mychal Thompson (half hearted effort in SA)
Maurice Cheeks (didn't want to be in SA - quit on a team with Sean Elliott, David Robinson, and Terry Cummings all in their athletic prime).

LakerHater
06-16-2012, 11:22 PM
Mo Cheeks
Jack Haley

Budkin
06-16-2012, 11:23 PM
Matt Bonner
Charles Smith
Samaki Walker
J.R. Reid
Nick Van Exel

JMarkJohns
06-17-2012, 12:57 AM
Were just not going to agree.

KJ made all star team in 94 and Majerle started for west all star team in 95. Neither were as good as a Wade or a Pippen but Barkley had all the talent in the world around him compared to what Lebron had in Cleveland.

You seem to think I'm saying Barkley had zero talent. I'm not. I never did.

The fact that a 33-YO, 12-year veteran Barkley once requested a trade to a contender doesn't undercut his criticism of a 26-YO, in-prime MVP LeBron for joining two other in-prime All-Stars in Miami to manufacture an in-prime dynasty independent of standard/typical NBA circumstances.

Barkley was getting old, was often injured (missed 44 games previous three seasons in Phoenix and over half with Houston), and saw his window basically closed as the MVP leading a team to a Title. He coattailed and failed.

What LeBron did is not anything similar.

Killakobe81
06-17-2012, 01:06 AM
Rodman and Karl Malone hands down. Both were OK on my Lakers team, especially Malone. But I hated those guys so much especially the post MAdonna, Bulls flopper version of Rodnman. I didnt mind Rodman in Detroit.

Special shout-put goes to the wives of Doug Christie and Glen Rice ...both were annoying media whores.

Legacy
06-17-2012, 02:28 AM
Dennis Fucking Rodman.

Kuestmaster
06-17-2012, 05:03 AM
Bonner

racm
06-17-2012, 05:40 AM
Matt Bonner
Richard Jefferson (ironically he's the front running candidate for MVP in my NBA Live Dynasty though he has Kidd with him on the Nets)
Anyome remember Ike Diogu or Turkoglu?

100%duncan
06-17-2012, 08:52 AM
Jefferson
Bonner

100%duncan
06-17-2012, 08:55 AM
Oh yeah, and Nick van exel. That fucktard

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 01:28 PM
Matt Bonner
Richard Jefferson (ironically he's the front running candidate for MVP in my NBA Live Dynasty though he has Kidd with him on the Nets)
Anyome remember Ike Diogu or Turkoglu?

How could a Spurs fan hate Diogu? He was on the roster for maybe a week and never played any meaningful minutes as far as I can remember.

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 01:29 PM
Rodman and Karl Malone hands down. Both were OK on my Lakers team, especially Malone. But I hated those guys so much especially the post MAdonna, Bulls flopper version of Rodnman. I didnt mind Rodman in Detroit.

Special shout-put goes to the wives of Doug Christie and Glen Rice ...both were annoying media whores.

Yeah, I would fucking hate Malone if I was a Lakers fan for all the ignorant garbage he talked about Magic.

Venti Quattro
06-17-2012, 01:33 PM
If you're a Lakers fan and you don't hate Kwame Brown and Smush Parker, you're a faggot.

Dex
06-17-2012, 01:33 PM
2008-2010 Michael Finley, Matt Bonner, and Richard Jefferson are obvious choices. But I hated all of them.

I also didn't like Beno Udrih.

Another player I hated that didn't get much hate when he was here was Roger Mason Jr. The fucker wanted to be traded but he couldn't hit a fucking 3 pointer to save his life.

But Pop ruined RMJ by making him play point. :cry

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 01:34 PM
If you're a Lakers fan and you don't hate Kwame Brown and Smush Parker, you're a faggot.

If I was a Laker fan douchebag I would love Kwame for bringing in Gasoft tbh.

Donkeybong
06-17-2012, 01:38 PM
Kwame Brown (Most frustrating player to watch ever)
Smush Parker
Brian Cook (A 7 footer that only shoots 3's...)

probably some im forgetting.

If you could play and tried I didn't hate you.

rascal
06-17-2012, 01:38 PM
Rasho- Boring player that was a desperation free agent pickup after the Spurs talked about the big free agent acquisition they would make that summer and struck out on Kidd, which was a bad move in the first place, should have gone after Webber hard that year as the first choice.

Rodman was a clown: wearing woman's wedding dress photos

Steve Smith: The spurs talked him up like he was going to be a big star.

Bowen: Ugly basketball watching him play. A big reason why the Spurs are considered Boring through the years. Bowen would not have amounted to much on any other team other than a backup role player, on the Spurs he is hanging in the rafters.

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 01:45 PM
Brian Cook (A 7 footer that only shoots 3's...)

I forgot the Lakers had their own Bonner. Man, that guy sucked.

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 01:46 PM
Rasho- Boring player that was a desperation free agent pickup after the Spurs talked about the big free agent acquisition they would make that summer and struck out on Kidd, which was a bad move in the first place, should have gone after Webber hard that year as the first choice.

Webber was a free agent in 01, not 03.

rascal
06-17-2012, 03:30 PM
Webber was a free agent in 01, not 03.

Looks like webber signed a 7 year deal in Sac. in 2001. I was wrong believing Webber was a free agent in 2003.

I thought the Spurs had a shot at webber but waited for Kidd and lost the chance at Webber. J O'Neal?

rayjayjohnson
06-17-2012, 03:55 PM
melo
friend killer
k-k-k-k-k-k-k-kenyon martin

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 04:04 PM
Looks like webber signed a 7 year deal in Sac. in 2001. I was wrong believing Webber was a free agent in 2003.

I thought the Spurs had a shot at webber but waited for Kidd and lost the chance at Webber. J O'Neal?

The Spurs really lucked out that they couldn't get O'Neal. Rasho's $42 million doesn't look so bad next to O'Neal's $127 million.

Findog
06-17-2012, 05:20 PM
Lamar Odom
Doug Christie
Devean George
Roy Tarpley
Tariq Abdul-Wahid
Shawn Bradley
Antoine Walker
Erick Dampier
Adrian Dantley

Edward
06-17-2012, 05:23 PM
The Spurs really lucked out that they couldn't get O'Neal. Rasho's $42 million doesn't look so bad next to O'Neal's $127 million.
Granted they very well could have 5-peated if they signed O'Neal after their 2003 title.

baseline bum
06-17-2012, 05:53 PM
Granted they very well could have 5-peated if they signed O'Neal after their 2003 title.

I don't think O'Neal would have been a good fit, being a so-so rebounder and an inefficient volume scorer (though he was a pretty decent shotblocker). Plus the Spurs would have probably had to salary dump one of Parker and Ginobili to pay that contract, and no way I would take O'Neal at $15-$23 million per year over one of those two.

Calispursfan11
06-17-2012, 05:55 PM
Loyd Daniels

Clipper Nation
06-17-2012, 06:33 PM
Fuck Andre Miller and Baron Davis, two bums who just mailed it in for a paycheck in LA. Also, Lamar Odom was a team-killing distraction on the Clips, so Mavfan, you're not alone.

Honorable mention to Elton Brand for following the Carlos Boozer handbook on how to leave your team, and DeAndre Jordan for his contract.

ClipperLuva
06-17-2012, 06:39 PM
Fuck Andre Miller and Baron Davis, two bums who just mailed it in for a paycheck in LA. Also, Lamar Odom was a team-killing distraction on the Clips, so Mavfan, you're not alone.

Honorable mention to Elton Brand for following the Carlos Boozer handbook on how to leave your team, and DeAndre Jordan for his contract.

Cool story bro

Clipper Nation
06-17-2012, 06:39 PM
Cool story bro

Sorry it isn't Naruto-related.

ClipperLuva
06-17-2012, 06:43 PM
Sorry it isn't Naruto-related.
Great

Latarian Milton
06-17-2012, 07:43 PM
Haywood, Antoine wright, Deavean George, Lamar odom
haywood ain't at all a hated player anymore since the details of his contract revealed, LO is an expiring contract with only 2.4m guaranteed money for 12-13 and hence he's quite an attractive chip. neither guy comes nearly as bad as dickbreath tbh

Clipper Nation
06-18-2012, 08:54 AM
If you're a Lakers fan and you don't hate Kwame Brown and Smush Parker, you're a faggot.

Smush Parker... another former Clipper I hated. Bonafide SCRUB. Should have been out of the league after the Lakers tbh.

Venti Quattro
06-18-2012, 09:05 AM
Another Laker that I vehemently hated was Luke Walton.

I also hated Travis Knight. Bonafide white scrub.