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Avante
06-20-2012, 02:18 AM
...right now today would replace one of these....

CCR
The Eagles
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
ZZ Top
The Doors
The Animals

....on that list?

koriwhat
06-20-2012, 03:27 AM
i don't know, but graveyard is great!

Avante
06-20-2012, 03:36 AM
i don't know, but graveyard is great!

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That's probably not one of their better tunes, right?

These guys are pretty good.


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redzero
06-20-2012, 05:45 AM
Your question makes no sense.

Halberto
06-20-2012, 07:50 AM
Stop posting retarded threads

JMarkJohns
06-20-2012, 10:00 AM
So you're asking what lame groups from the worst age of rock can replace the best groups from the golden age of rock, and you're asking it sincerely?

johnsmith
06-20-2012, 10:06 AM
Ever notice how no one likes RaZon?

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-20-2012, 10:09 AM
One Direction would run the 4 x 100 relay much faster than anyone on that list.

johnsmith
06-20-2012, 10:10 AM
One Direction would run the 4 x 100 relay much faster than anyone on that list.

i'll take that bet........have I told you lately about how to handicap track and field events while listening to the blues?

mojorizen7
06-20-2012, 10:25 AM
Well that band/group/artist would have to play actual musical instruments and write songs....so that eliminates about 99% of whats popular today.
:shootme

hehateme
06-20-2012, 10:42 AM
One Direction would run the 4 x 100 relay much faster than anyone on that list.


No no...Steve Perry wins, by a nose.

Augie
06-20-2012, 10:44 AM
Well that band/group/artist would have to play actual musical instruments and write songs....so that eliminates about 99% of whats popular today.
:shootme

There's that "99%" number again. It's the bane of our society that people just throw out that figure because it looks cool and sounds statistical.

So, I assume you have some kind of industry knowledge that allows to represent it as fact.

SMH and big sigh.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:55 AM
Your question makes no sense.

Is really all that complex:rolleyes

Take one of those I listed and replace them with a better current band or artist, you honestly didn't get that?

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:56 AM
Stop posting retarded threads

Ok ok, so what is your favorite sandwich? As if anyone really gave a fuck.

Augie
06-20-2012, 10:57 AM
I'll play.

Van Halen
Guns & Roses

Halberto
06-20-2012, 10:57 AM
Shut the fuck up sandwich

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:57 AM
So you're asking what lame groups from the worst age of rock can replace the best groups from the golden age of rock, and you're asking it sincerely?

Funny how you figured this out, it was so complex:rolleyes

Yep what band/artist today would replace one of those on my list?

Augie
06-20-2012, 10:58 AM
And the Doors were terrible. While certainly iconic, for the most part, their library is 99% unlistenable.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:59 AM
Ever notice how no one likes RaZon?

Ever notice nobody likes anybody here?

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:59 AM
Shut the fuck up sandwich

Another dumbass kid in hiding:rolleyes

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:00 AM
Oh. So this is like the Hendrix thread. You guys suck.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:00 AM
And the Doors were terrible. While certainly iconic, for the most part, their library is 99% unlistenable.

Totally disagree with that. The Doors were great with a ton of great tunes.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:01 AM
I'll play.

Van Halen
Guns & Roses

Who do they replace?

mojorizen7
06-20-2012, 11:01 AM
There's that "99%" number again. It's the bane of our society that people just throw out that figure because it looks cool and sounds statistical.

So, I assume you have some kind of industry knowledge that allows to represent it as fact.

SMH and big sigh.
Yes,i used hyperbole there. Good eye.
Ok. I'll let you decide.
http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/charts/hot-100

SpurinDallas
06-20-2012, 11:02 AM
I am a Michael Bolton fan...

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6172/originaltt.jpg

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:02 AM
Who do they replace?

The Doors and the Animals.

tbh, I have a hard time with ZZ Top being on the list with the shit they ended up putting out. Would be nice to see them close their careers on a better note.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:03 AM
One Direction would run the 4 x 100 relay much faster than anyone on that list.

Ain't it cool to be able to run down every college 4x1 (if they had the sprinters) and do music also?

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:06 AM
Also, I would add Deep Purple.

The Reckoning
06-20-2012, 11:11 AM
pit bulls are ugly dogs and should be shot on sight.

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:14 AM
pit bulls are ugly dogs and should be shot on sight.

Seriously? Not the "ugly" part...that's pretty subjective. But you would really shoot a dog based solely on its looks?

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:14 AM
Also, I would add Deep Purple.

You really think they made the impact those I mentioned did?

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:15 AM
pit bulls are ugly dogs and should be shot on sight.

Don't agree with that put they do need to be killed off.

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:16 AM
You really think they made the impact those I mentioned did?

I think they made as big an impact in their genre as the Animals or CCR did. In fact, one could argue they made a bigger impact than Zepplin (which was really just an extension of previous music). Deep Purple were innovators.

The Reckoning
06-20-2012, 11:16 AM
the issue with music is that in the 60s and 70s it was synonymous with popular technology of the day. amplifiers, wah wah pedals, synthesizers, etc.

nerds flocked to that shit. really smart people...some of the best rock bands like pink floyd met while in school and decided to drop out to mess with the tech.

after that, with the advent of computers, the focus shifted away from music and to the PC. now instead of garage bands you had nerds building computers in their garages and starting software companies.

music then sucked because dumbasses in it for the fame took over and let the record companies push them around. intelligent people stopped making music because they had other means to keep their minds occupied.

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:17 AM
Don't agree with that put they do need to be killed off.

Why?

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:23 AM
Why?

History has proven that that breed of dog is too dangerous. There is a reason they are called Pit Bulls. With all the different breeds out there do we really need a....Pit Bull?

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:25 AM
the issue with music is that in the 60s and 70s it was synonymous with popular technology of the day. amplifiers, wah wah pedals, synthesizers, etc.

nerds flocked to that shit. really smart people...some of the best rock bands like pink floyd met while in school and decided to drop out to mess with the tech.

after that, with the advent of computers, the focus shifted away from music and to the PC. now instead of garage bands you had nerds building computers in their garages and starting software companies.

music then sucked because dumbasses in it for the fame took over and let the record companies push them around. intelligent people stopped making music because they had other means to keep their minds occupied.

I like it.

There was also a harder life style for many who made music. Hard times make great music.

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:28 AM
History has proven that that breed of dog is too dangerous. There is a reason they are called Pit Bulls. With all the different breeds out there do we really need a....Pit Bull?

Your statement is striking close to some of Hitler's reasoning and propaganda. Was it intentional?

Anyway we could spend pages debating Pits. Sadly, they are a breed that has become misused and mistreated over the years. Probably much of it due to being stereotyped as "that dog". I have there pits. And I also just realized my avatar is quite counter productive to my argument. Probably will change that.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Your statement is striking close to some of Hitler's reasoning and propaganda. Was it intentional?

Anyway we could spend pages debating Pits. Sadly, they are a breed that has become misused and mistreated over the years. Probably much of it due to being stereotyped as "that dog". I have there pits. And I also just realized my avatar is quite counter productive to my argument. Probably will change that.

The facts are the facts, look at what breed of dog is involved in the most violence towards humans. Trust me you see a pit bull standing in your yard you are very concerned as opposed to any other stray dog.

JMarkJohns
06-20-2012, 11:34 AM
Funny how you figured this out, it was so complex:rolleyes

Yep what band/artist today would replace one of those on my list?

Not complex, so stop passing yourself off as a thinker, because, while simple in theory, it's fucking retarded in actuality. Even if there were bands with the talent, innovation, and vision as those listed, the fact none are successful or popular means they are inadequate "replacements" in reality, because the greatest aspect about the iconic bands in question was their far-reaching influence. No modern band measures up, so it is actually quite simple.

mojorizen7
06-20-2012, 11:34 AM
Deep Purple

I think they made as big an impact in their genre as the Animals or CCR did. Agree.

In fact, one could argue they made a bigger impact than Zepplin No.

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:41 AM
The facts are the facts, look at what breed of dog is involved in the most violence towards humans. Trust me you see a pit bull standing in your yard you are very concerned as opposed to any other stray dog.

Yes, I've heard that quoted a bunch. But what isn't taken into account all of the "mutts" that run lose across the U.S. These are mixed breed dogs that either 1) don't get categorized or 2) get categorized into whatever the victim identifies the dog as. If you take the attacks by these mixed breed dogs, they grossly overshadow any pit bull attacks on humans. My point being, that it's uncontrolled dogs and dogs that run loose that hurt people. And in some cities, a large number of these dogs happen to be pit bulls. But if you look in other, more rural areas, it's different breeds, with the majority of them being mixed.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:45 AM
Not complex, so stop passing yourself off as a thinker, because, while simple in theory, it's fucking retarded in actuality. Even if there were bands with the talent, innovation, and vision as those listed, the fact none are successful or popular means they are inadequate "replacements" in reality, because the greatest aspect about the iconic bands in question was their far-reaching influence. No modern band measures up, so it is actually quite simple.

I was talking about how you figured it out and redzero couldn't.

Yes yes and yes no modern band measures up. Which is what this is about.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:47 AM
Yes, I've heard that quoted a bunch. But what isn't taken into account all of the "mutts" that run lose across the U.S. These are mixed breed dogs that either 1) don't get categorized or 2) get categorized into whatever the victim identifies the dog as. If you take the attacks by these mixed breed dogs, they grossly overshadow any pit bull attacks on humans. My point being, that it's uncontrolled dogs and dogs that run loose that hurt people. And in some cities, a large number of these dogs happen to be pit bulls. But if you look in other, more rural areas, it's different breeds, with the majority of them being mixed.

Sorry man but pit bulls are simply more trouble than they are worth. Yes they have caused alot of trouble over the years. Stats don't lie!

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:51 AM
I was talking about how you figured it out and redzero couldn't.

Yes yes and yes no modern band measures up. Which is what this is about.

No modern band measure up because the people that appreciate that kind of music don't drive the market. At some point, bands have to make money and survive and with the market being run and dominated by "manufatured" music, it's harder and harder for an organic band to make it. Some have decent success but unfortunately "they" dictate that the easiest formula is to just have some good looking kids, autotune their voices, throw in some electric drums, get someone else to write the music, and then feed it to the masses. There are probably thousands of great debut albums but they never make enough money for the artist to stick it out. So either sell out or be content making your money from a living made by touring.

Augie
06-20-2012, 11:52 AM
Sorry man but pit bulls are simply more trouble than they are worth. Yes they have caused alot of trouble over the years. Stats don't lie!

Where are your stats?
And to me, my pits are worth all the trouble in the world. And they are no trouble at all!

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:55 AM
No modern band measure up because the people that appreciate that kind of music don't drive the market. At some point, bands have to make money and survive and with the market being run and dominated by "manufatured" music, it's harder and harder for an organic band to make it. Some have decent success but unfortunately "they" dictate that the easiest formula is to just have some good looking kids, autotune their voices, throw in some electric drums, get someone else to write the music, and then feed it to the masses. There are probably thousands of great debut albums but they never make enough money for the artist to stick it out. So either sell out or be content making your money from a living made by touring.

Totally agree.

Like everything else, we no longer get the real deal.

Augie
06-20-2012, 12:07 PM
Totally agree.

Like everything else, we no longer get the real deal.

This song from Porcupine Tree hit the nail on the head. Ironically, it's one of their more pop friendly tunes.

QokZiV0VrCg

Hear the sound of music
Drifting in the aisles
Elevator prozac
Stretching on for miles

The music of the future
Will not entertain
It's only meant to repress
And neutralise your brain

Soul gets squeezed out
Edges get blunt
Demographic
Gives what you want

One of the wonders of the world is going down
It's going down I know
It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares
No-one cares enough

Now the sound of music
Comes in silver pills
Engineered to suit you
Building cheaper thrills

The music of rebellion
Makes you wanna rage
But it's made by millionaires
Who are nearly twice your age

Soul gets squeezed out
Edges get blunt
Demographic
Gives what you want

One of the wonders of the world is going down
It's going down I know
It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares
No-one cares enough

Avante
06-20-2012, 12:27 PM
Where are your stats?
And to me, my pits are worth all the trouble in the world. And they are no trouble at all!

I'm not really in the mood to go Google a bunch of stuff about pit bulls. We all know their history.

I'm not talking about your dogs, I'm talking about the breed. I'm also talking about all those who own that dog because it's badass. How many times have we seen the young dude walking his pit trying as hard as he can to...we bad we bad?

Augie
06-20-2012, 12:33 PM
I'm not really in the mood to go Google a bunch of stuff about pit bulls. We all know their history.

I'm not talking about your dogs, I'm talking about the breed. I'm also talking about all those who own that dog because it's badass. How many times have we seen the young dude walking his pit trying as hard as he can to...we bad we bad?

Well, you kind of made my point. A big part of the problem is the owners. But you can say the same thing about guns. Do you think guns should be outlawed? I think the better solution is to do away with idiots. Or at least reduce their rights and privileges to something that they can handle.

Avante
06-20-2012, 12:42 PM
Well, you kind of made my point. A big part of the problem is the owners. But you can say the same thing about guns. Do you think guns should be outlawed? I think the better solution is to do away with idiots. Or at least reduce their rights and privileges to something that they can handle.

There are some guns that need to be outlawed as far as the general public goes.

The point is that a pit bull is a very strong dog that if pissed can do a ton of damage to anything. I've seen a pit bull (video) take down a bull. A big man would have his hands full vs the dog. That kind of potential violence we don't need around us.

SpurinDallas
06-20-2012, 12:46 PM
Well, you kind of made my point. A big part of the problem is the owners. But you can say the same thing about guns. Do you think guns should be outlawed? I think the better solution is to do away with idiots. Or at least reduce their rights and privileges to something that they can handle.

I think the dispute is over provoked and non provoked attacks by pitbulls. It seems like we hear about PitBulls mauling children or other dogs, but don't hear what may have made the dog snap.

We have had German Shepherds my whole life. I think most people would agree that GS's are some of the best guard/family/social dogs out there. Yet I was attacked by my grandmother's GS dog, twice. The first time, he was eating and I got down near his bowl and started shaking a box of cookies and he bit me. The second time, he was eating again and my cousin pushed me into him as he was eating and he got me good, had to get a tetanus shot this time. Of course, once he made his point after acting on instinct, he let me go. Pit Bulls for some reason will keep on attacking until their victim is dead.

And fwiw, I don't like Pit Bulls and have no desire to own one. If I see one being walked by an owner somewhere, I always get my kids and we move far away from it

Augie
06-20-2012, 12:46 PM
There are some guns that need to be outlawed as far as the general public goes.

The point is that a pit bull is a very strong dog that if pissed can do a ton of damage to anything. I've seen a pit bull (video) take down a bull. A big man would have his hands full vs the dog. That kind of potential violence we don't need around us.

"potential violence". What's the difference in that or karate or a .44 or a car for that matter. They all have potential violence. What's the common factor when these cause unnecessary violence? I would say it's some idiot human.

Avante
06-20-2012, 12:49 PM
"potential violence". What's the difference in that or karate or a .44 or a car for that matter. They all have potential violence. What's the common factor when these cause unnecessary violence? I would say it's some idiot human.

Well then you'd be wrong, do I really have to run off to Google and bring back all those stats about the violence that is the pit bull? You honestly haven't heard about all those pit bull attacks? The damage these dogs do? Come on man, you must have.

Augie
06-20-2012, 12:56 PM
Well then you'd be wrong, do I really have to run off to Google and bring back all those stats about the violence that is the pit bull? You honestly haven't heard about all those pit bull attacks? The damage these dogs do? Come on man, you must have.

Pardon my ignorance but yes, please provide me the stats that you are basing your side of the debate on. It would help me understand your thinking and possibly some insight on how to respond.

Avante
06-20-2012, 01:04 PM
Pardon my ignorance but yes, please provide me the stats that you are basing your side of the debate on. It would help me understand your thinking and possibly some insight on how to respond.


This took all of 5 seconds. This sort of thing is all over the place.


The most deadly dog breeds in America: pit bull terriers (http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php) and rottweilers. Research from DogsBite.org (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2011.php) shows that during the 7-year period from 2005 to 2011, these two breeds accounted for 74% of the total recorded fatal attacks.1 By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2011, a report by Animal People (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php) shows that pit bulls (215) and rottweilers (81) and their mixes accounted for 64% of the total recorded fatal attacks (466).2
It is important to point out that fatal dog attacks committed by pit bulls and their mixes more than doubles the attacks inflicted by rottweilers. It is well documented by experts (http://www.scribd.com/doc/7775401/Excerpts-Dog-Bite-Prevention-for-Law-Enforcement-and-Other-First-Responders-by-Randall-Lockwood)3 and humane groups (http://www.scribd.com/doc/14396422/ASPCA-Guide-to-Handling-Pit-Bulls-in-Shelter-Environments)4 that pit bulls pose a substantial danger due to their selective breeding for dogfighting. Unlike other dog breeds, pit bulls frequently fail to communicate intention prior to an attack (surprise attacks (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/08/top-dog-behavior-experts-fooled-by-pit.html)); possess a lethal bite style (hold and shake (http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php#bitestyle)) and a ruinous manner of attack (gameness (http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php#dogfighting)).
Additional materials:


Pit Bull FAQ (http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php) - Learn about pit bulls and why they are so dangerous.
Pit Bull Myths (http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-myths.php) - Learn the truth behind the many pit bull myths.
Pit Bull Owners (http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-owners.php) - Learn about the types of people who own pit bulls.
Fighting dog breeds

Though much less common than pit bulls, other fighting breeds pose a significant threat to public safety as well. Aurora, Colorado, for instance, currently bans pit bulls and formerly banned5 the following fighting breeds: dogo argentino, presa canario,6 cane corso, tosa inu, fila brasileiro and presa mallorquin. Each of these breeds is either a pit bull derivative or was derived from ancestors similar to pit bull ancestors. Countries, such as Spain (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticias.juridicas.com%2Fbase_datos %2FAdmin%2Frd287-2002.html&sl=es&tl=en) and New Zealand (http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Resource-material-Dog-Control-Key-Facts?OpenDocument#six), regulate these breeds.
http://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-dogo-argentino.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogo_Argentino)http://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-presa-canario.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perro_de_Presa_Canario)http://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-cane-corso.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_Corso)http://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-tosa-inu.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosa_%28dog%29)Dogo argentinoPresa canarioCane corsoTosa inu
Wolf hybrids (canid hybrid)

Many U.S. states regulate the breeding and ownership (http://www.adn.com/2011/06/18/1923957/three-charged-with-illegal-possession.html) of wolf hybrids, a canid hybrid resulting from the mating of a wolf and a dog. This crossbreed also has a deadly track record. According to the same report by Animal People (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php), wolf hybrids accounted for 19 deaths between 1982 and 2010. The death count may much be higher too; owners of wolf hybrids often mislabel their dogs as a husky or malamute-mix to evade detection, as was attempted after the death of Kyle Holland (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/06/justice-for-lincoln-park-fatal-dog.html).
http://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-wolf-hybrid-1.jpghttp://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-wolf-hybrid-2.jpghttp://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-wolf-hybrid-0.jpghttp://www.dogsbite.org/img/dd-wolf-hybrid-4.jpgWolf hybridWolf hybridWolf hybridWolf hybrid
Dangerous scenarios

One of the most dangerous scenarios involving pit bulls and other high-risk dog breeds is often unaddressed in media stories after serious and fatal dog attacks. The scenario entails bringing a child into the home of a friend or relative who owns a pit bull or rottweiler. The reverse scenario -- inviting the owner of one of these dog breeds into a home with a child -- is just as dangerous. Three factors are at stake in these cases: 1.) Breed of dog 2.) "new" situations and 3.) children.
DogsBite.org cannot underscore the volume of serious dog attacks, some of which are fatal, that occur when a child is "visiting" the home of a pit bull or rottweiler owner (See: Natalyee Murphy (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/09/3-year-old-girl-airlifted-after.html), Dallas Lee Walters (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/12/2009-fatality-aunts-rottwieler-kills-20.html) and Izaiah Gregory Cox (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/03/2009-fatality-boy-killed-by-pit-bulls.html)). Under no circumstances should a person agree to take care of a friend or relative's recognized dangerous dog breed if there are children in the home or may be visiting the home either. (See: James Dowling (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/08/2011-fatality-4-year-old-western.html), Colton Smith (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/10/2009-fatality-17-month-old-boy-mauled.html) and Salvador Cotto (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/06/2011-fatality-chesterfield-county-baby.html)).
The risk to the child is too great.
Additional materials:


Staying Safe (http://www.dogsbite.org/staying-safe-from-dangerous-dogs.php) - Learn about the most dangerous situations.
Victim Funds (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-funds.php) - Learn about survivors of serious dog attacks.
Say No Firmly (http://javascript<b></b>:bozo=window.open('pop-just-say-no.htm',%20'DogsBite',%20'width=450,height=450,sta tus=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,scrollbar s=yes');window.bozo.focus();) - Learn to say no to owners of dangerous dog breeds.
Reporting a dangerous dog

Many people are unaware that one does not have to wait for a "bite" to report a threatening (menacing), loose or stray dog. Many attacks occur due to this lack of understanding. Always report problem dogs to your city or county animal control or Sheriff's department. If that dog ends up biting and seriously hurting a person, but there is no documented paper trail behind it, authorities will have their hands tied and the victim may have no recourse for medical expenses.
If the dog owner lives on a rental property, it is beneficial to send a certified letter asking the landlord to ensure that proper containment infrastructure is installed and that the dog is declared on the renter's insurance policy. This act normally places the landlord into the "liability equation" and motivates him to take care of the situation. Cell phone photographs and video of the dog's behavior can be sent as supporting evidence to show that an attack situation is imminent.
When reporting a dog bite (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2012/02/what-happens-when-victim-does-not.html) -- defined as a "breaking of the skin" -- anticipate its owner to plead with you not to. Many dog owners do not want a "first bite" on record and may offer you a "home nurse" solution. Do not accept a home nurse solution (http://javascript<b></b>:bozo=window.open('pop-no-home-treatment.htm',%20'DogsBite',%20'width=450,height= 450,status=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,sc rollbars=yes');window.bozo.focus();). Proceed to a hospital, tell the doctor you have a dog bite, which should trigger a formal bite report (what the dog owner hoped to avoid), and receive dog bite medical treatment, otherwise you could die (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/03/2009-fatality-80-year-old-woman-dies.html) or develop serious complications.
In many places it is also a misdemeanor crime to not report a dog bite.
Additional materials:


Dog Bite Victim Guide (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-guide.php) - Steps to take following a dog bite.
Rabies Prevention (http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/index.html) - What is rabies and how is it treated?
10-Day Quarantine (http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/diagnosis/animals-humans.html) - Why must a dog be quarantined after a bite?
Stopping a dangerous dog

Many U.S. courts have declared pit bulls as "lethal weapons." Police officers have the right to shoot and kill pit bulls when under threat or when protecting citizens. Examples of police officers shooting dangerous pit bulls are so common that DogsBite.org began tracking these instances in 2008. In a recent 11-year report (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/04/11-years-of-police-gunfire-pit-bulls.html) released by the New York Police Department, the data showed that when dangerous dogs are shot 72% were pit bulls followed by rottweilers with 10%.7
The inability for the average person, much less a child (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/01/2011-fatality-two-pit-bulls-kill-5-year.html), pregnant woman (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/08/2011-fatality-pregnant-pacifica-woman.html) or senior citizen (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/06/hawthorn-man-suffers-arm-amputation-and.html), to stop an attacking pit bull may be the single most powerful reason why pit bulls must be regulated. In 2009, Chicago police officers were forced to shoot an aggressive pit bull (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/03/10-shots-stop-pit-bull-attack-on.html) 10 times to stop the dog's assault. Prior to being shot to death, the animal attacked a pregnant woman hospitalizing her.8 This incident clearly illustrates the undeniable public safety threat that pit bulls present.
Additional materials:


Report: U.S. Police and Citizen Shootings of Pit Bulls 2008 (http://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-newsroom-2009-us-police-citizen-shootings-of-pit-bulls.php)
Mid Year Results: U.S. Police and Citizen Shootings of Pit Bulls 2009 (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/08/mid-year-results-us-police-and-citizen.html)
11 Years of Police Gunfire: Pit Bulls Top the Charts (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/04/11-years-of-police-gunfire-pit-bulls.html)
Legislating dangerous dogs

Over 650 U.S. cities (http://www.scribd.com/doc/56495216/Estimated-U-S-Cities-Counties-and-Military-Facilities-with-Breed-Specific-Pit-Bull-Laws), the U.S. Marine Corps (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/09/us-marine-corps-bans-pit-bulls-and.html), U.S. Army (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/03/us-army-bans-pit-bulls-and-other-breeds.html) and New York Housing Authority (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/04/nyc-housing-authorities-ban-pit-bulls.html) have adopted policies that target pit bulls and several other dog breeds due to the unreasonable risk posed by them. Such policies are designed to prevent an attack before it occurs, as there is never enough insurance funds to put these severely injured victims "back together" after an attack. (Top former U.S. enforcer of pit bull laws, Tom Skeldon, explains this clearly in an online interview (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/02/tom-skeldon-baised-blade-and-recent.html).)
Additional materials:


Legislating Dogs (http://www.dogsbite.org/legislating-dangerous-dogs.php) - Learn how U.S. cities are regulating dangerous dog breeds.
Military Laws (http://www.dogsbite.org/legislating-dangerous-dogs-military-bases.php) - View the many bases that regulate dangerous dog breeds.
BSL State-by-State (http://www.dogsbite.org/legislating-dangerous-dogs-state-by-state.php) - Learn the cities in your state with breed-specific laws.
DogsBite.org is a large resource


The dangerous dog breed issue is both deep and wide. It is also a worldwide problem (http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/02/ecuador-joins-world-trend-bans-pit.html) and not unique to the U.S. The composition of DogsBite.org -- over 2,000 web pages -- reflects this. We encourage viewers to read the Special Reports, located in the top right column, "Must Read" blog posts (http://www.dogsbite.org/blog-posts-must-read.php) and most recent stats (http://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-recent-dog-bite-statistics.php) and to spend time in the victim realities (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-realities.php) section. Watch the victims tell their stories in videos (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-videos.php), view the medical funds (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-funds.php) that we are tracking and read the victim voices (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-voices.php).
2011 U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Statistics - DogsBite.org (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2011.php), DogsBite.org, January 4, 2012.
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 26, 2011 (http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2011.pdf), by Merritt Clifton, Animal People, December, 26, 2011.
<A class=footnotelink href="http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DEG905">Dog Bite Prevention for Law Enforcement and Other First Responders, by Randall Lockwood, PhD, Tawzer Dog Videos, 2004 (View partial transcript (http://www.scribd.com/doc/7775401/Excerpts-Dog-Bite-Prevention-for-Law-Enforcement-and-Other-First-Responders-by-Randall-Lockwood)).
The Care of Pit Bulls in the Shelter Environment (http://www.scribd.com/doc/14396422/ASPCA-Guide-to-Handling-Pit-Bulls-in-Shelter-Environments), by Leslie D. Appel DVM, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA), ShelterMedicine.com, 2005.
In March 2011, Aurora began discussions about narrowing its Fighting Breed ban (http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/aurora-pit-bull-ordinance-announcement.pdf) to only pit bulls. This is likely because the other fighting breeds have such low population numbers.
The presa canario breed made headlines after savagely killing Diane Whipple in 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Whipple).
11 Years of Police Gunfire, in Painstaking Detail (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/nyregion/08nypd.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=11+years+police+gunfire&st=nyt), by Al Baker, The New York Times, May 8, 2008.
Dog killed after attack on couple (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6705910&rss=rss-wls-article-6705910), Chicago New - abc7chicago.com, March 12, 2009.
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SpurinDallas
06-20-2012, 01:14 PM
This thread was just mauled to death by a pit bull

Augie
06-20-2012, 01:23 PM
So eliminate pit bulls and some other dog is going to top the list for most attacks. You get that right? At some point, you'll get rid of all breeds down to the poodle. And would you really want to eliminate poodles because they are involved in the most attacks?

And again, anything can be dangerous in the hands of the wrong person. You still have yet to tell me how this is different than guns or cars. Would you ban those as well?

leemajors
06-20-2012, 01:31 PM
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Avante
06-20-2012, 07:29 PM
This thread was just mauled to death by a pit bull

I don't care about silly shit like that.

Avante
06-20-2012, 07:31 PM
So eliminate pit bulls and some other dog is going to top the list for most attacks. You get that right? At some point, you'll get rid of all breeds down to the poodle. And would you really want to eliminate poodles because they are involved in the most attacks?

And again, anything can be dangerous in the hands of the wrong person. You still have yet to tell me how this is different than guns or cars. Would you ban those as well?

Nobody is talking about the wrong people, the talk is about a vicious breed of dog with a history a mile long of violence.

People need guns to hunt, protect themselves. We have to drive a car we don't need a vicious animal.

I have a couple mutts that bark bark bark anytime someone shows up. People look down smile and the dogs melt. Shitty watch dogs. Trust me a pit bull scares people. They are a very serious threat and we all know it. You are standing in a doorway on the otherside of a screen door an excited pit bull, very chilling situation.

Avante
06-20-2012, 09:05 PM
I do like Ray Lamontagne, Harry Manx, Ben Harper, Chris Thomas King, Mark Lemhouse, Kenny Wayne Shepard, Derek Trucks, Govt' Mule, Jack White, Ray Wylie Hubbard.

Woo Bum-kon
06-20-2012, 09:08 PM
The Animals had one noteworthy song. Where is The Velvet Underground?

:lol music expert

Avante
06-20-2012, 09:12 PM
The Animals had one noteworthy song. Where is The Velvet Underground?

:lol music expert

You might wanna bone up on The Animals, obviously you have no clue.

The Velvet Underground does not belong on my list.

Here ya go moron..

paste

The Animals were known for their gritty, bluesy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues) sound and deep-voiced frontman Eric Burdon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Burdon), as exemplified by their number one signature song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_song) "The House of the Rising Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Rising_Sun)" as well as by hits such as "We Gotta Get out of This Place (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Gotta_Get_out_of_This_Place)", "It's My Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_My_Life_(The_Animals_song))", and "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Let_Me_Be_Misunderstood#The_Animals_versio n)". The band balanced tough, rock-edged pop singles against rhythm and blues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_and_blues)-oriented album material. They were known in the U.S. as part of the British Invasion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Invasion).

Woo Bum-kon
06-20-2012, 09:14 PM
What is the criteria for your list?

Avante
06-20-2012, 09:15 PM
What is the criteria for your list?

It doesn't matter I don't want your disease here. Get lost freak!

Woo Bum-kon
06-20-2012, 09:19 PM
lol Wikipedia music expert

Avante
06-20-2012, 09:23 PM
lol Wikipedia music expert

Where was Wikipedia when the Animals were recording all those hits stupid? Hits I happen to own.

Woo Bum-kon
06-20-2012, 09:26 PM
lol music expert who needs Wikipedia
lol record collection you're too afraid to post
lol pussy

Avante
06-20-2012, 09:30 PM
lol music expert who needs Wikipedia
lol record collection you're too afraid to post
lol pussy

Dude, get a new gig ok? You are so fucking fucked it's ridiculous. All you ever do is the same old boring ass moan. Are you really that fucking miserable?

Get the fuck away from me ya retarded sack of shit.

Woo Bum-kon
06-20-2012, 09:35 PM
Dude, get a new gig ok?

Oh, the irony.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:10 PM
How sad is it when we see someone like this Woo freak? The guy does absolutely nothing but follow others around wimpering about something. Always negative, always miserable. He never adds anything. It's just..how big a jerk can I be.....man that is so fucked.

Unless posters are capable of originated threads themselves something this freak neve does they need to be cool.

Clipper Nation
06-20-2012, 10:10 PM
Definitely Nickelback replacing Led Zeppelin and The Beatles tbh.

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 10:12 PM
...right now today would replace one of these....

CCR
The Eagles
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
ZZ Top
The Doors
The Animals

....on that list?

Depends on what you're listing.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:12 PM
Definitely Nickelback replacing Led Zeppelin and The Beatles tbh.

You can't be serious. Go ahead sell me Nickleback.

Clipper Nation
06-20-2012, 10:14 PM
You can't be serious. Go ahead sell me Nickleback.
They're mad creative tbh... every song is incredibly different. Kind of underground though, most people haven't heard of them.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:14 PM
Depends on what you're listing.

I'll go slow...

List of all time greats there (obviously) what group today should be there instead?

You honestly couldn't figure that out? Bullshit!

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 10:16 PM
Also... The Animals, but no Kinks? That's just crazy talk.

The Zombies and The Yardbirds are also more deserving if you're going to include one of the obscure British Invasion bands, in my opinion.

Clipper Nation
06-20-2012, 10:16 PM
None of these wack ass artists have anything on Lil B The Based God though. Lifechanging shit tbh.

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 10:17 PM
I'll go slow...

List of all time greats there (obviously) what group today should be there instead?

You honestly couldn't figure that out? Bullshit!

"All time greats" is hardly descriptive.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:19 PM
"All time greats" is hardly descriptive.

Do you wander around in a state of confusion?

O.J. Simpson
06-20-2012, 10:20 PM
Shut the fuck up Razon.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:20 PM
None of these wack ass artists have anything on Lil B The Based God though. Lifechanging shit tbh.

This is lifechanging?


BB0DU4DoPP4 (http://BB0DU4DoPP4)

Clipper Nation
06-20-2012, 10:21 PM
Do you wander around in a state of confusion?
No... then he'd be you.

Clipper Nation
06-20-2012, 10:22 PM
This is lifechanging?



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The Based God's influence even makes HTML code into epic inspirational shit... truly the god of music :worthy:

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:23 PM
No... then he'd be you.

Dude, give it up...ok? First of all you suck at it and second of all you are a nobody. Why the punk bit, it's so tired and worn out here. Act like a mature adult or go somewhere were some other punk kids gather...ok?

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 10:26 PM
Do you wander around in a state of confusion?

How do you quantify "all time greats"?

If you're listing them according to your own opinion or personal taste, there's no point in even answering because you've already made your list.

Clipper Nation
06-20-2012, 10:29 PM
Dude, give it up...ok? First of all you suck at it and second of all you are a nobody. Why the punk bit, it's so tired and worn out here. Act like a mature adult or go somewhere were some other punk kids gather...ok?
Irony tbh.

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:31 PM
How do you quantify "all time greats"?

If you're listing them according to your own opinion or personal taste, there's no point in even answering because you've already made your list.

I think most anyone who knows music would agree that all those I listed are "all time great" bands and artists. If we look at the greatest albums/tunes ever those I mentioned are all over those lists.

So is there a band/artist today that could be put there instead of one I mentioned.

You really are struggling with this aren't you?

Avante
06-20-2012, 10:32 PM
Irony tbh.

Kids on computers:rolleyes

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 10:33 PM
I think most anyone who knows music would agree that all those I listed are "all time great" bands and artists. If we look at the greatest albums/tunes ever those I mentioned are all over those lists.

So is there a band/artist today that could be put there instead of one I mentioned.

You really are struggling with this aren't you?

Not as much as you seem to be.

redzero
06-20-2012, 10:43 PM
How are The Animals an all time great?

And why do you hate The Velvet Underground so much? Is it because you found a website that didn't rank them high enough?

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:00 PM
How are The Animals an all time great?

And why do you hate The Velvet Underground so much? Is it because you found a website that didn't rank them high enough?

I don't hate The Velvet Underground, they just never delivered what I look for.

The Animals belong on any "Greatest Bands" list, if you don't believe me do some homework.

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 11:02 PM
The Animals belong on any "Greatest Bands" list, if you don't believe me do some homework.

According to what criteria?

They probably don't belong on a list of greatest reggae bands. Or greatest swing bands. Or greatest bands with more than two words in their name.

Reck
06-20-2012, 11:10 PM
Why do some of the better posters in the club take RaZon's bait and actually give him a solid and serious response? It saddens me he takes up your time like that.

RaZon is nothing but a tool to be laughed at.

CuckingFunt
06-20-2012, 11:12 PM
Why do some of the better posters in the club take RaZon's bait and actually give him a solid and serious response? It saddens me he takes up your time like that.

RaZon is nothing but a tool to be laughed at.

I don't think anyone is taking him seriously.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:38 PM
According to what criteria?

They probably don't belong on a list of greatest reggae bands. Or greatest swing bands. Or greatest bands with more than two words in their name.

Sometimes you just have to go with the obvious. Do you really think that was about country and westrern, Reggae, Jazz, Blues, Soul? It wasn't pretty obvious?

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:41 PM
Why do some of the better posters in the club take RaZon's bait and actually give him a solid and serious response? It saddens me he takes up your time like that.

RaZon is nothing but a tool to be laughed at.

That coming from the guy who told me how unserious this board was to be taken. Dude,do you ever do anything but follow the rest of us around? Until you start doing things on your own shut the fuck up. I can't stand a fucking leech.

Avante
06-20-2012, 11:42 PM
I don't think anyone is taking him seriously.

When did this board become serious?

Avante
06-21-2012, 03:47 PM
The moment you posted something that snotty college-age non-Spur fan didn't know

It is rather comical isn't it? They just cannot accept the fact..old dude here who loves football, track and them blues. Totally freaks them out, hahahaha!!!!!!!