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Drachen

06-20-2012, 12:01 PM

I am reading some stuff from the WP8 event going on right now... Looks good. This is especially cool:

...All this will run on a kernel shared with Windows 8 and Windows RT. In other words: yes, Microsoft has managed to get one platform running on desktops, laptops, tablets and phones, the idea being that apps can be more easily ported from one to the next...

If this works like they are saying (and I am at least a little hopeful since win7 was great), I could consider switching.

leemajors

06-20-2012, 12:26 PM

I am reading some stuff from the WP8 event going on right now... Looks good. This is especially cool:

If this works like they are saying (and I am at least a little hopeful since win7 was great), I could consider switching.

The intel based ones will be priced like Ultrabooks. As usual, MS too late to the party.

Drachen

06-20-2012, 12:35 PM

The intel based ones will be priced like Ultrabooks. As usual, MS too late to the party.

First, we don't know the price, they didn't say. Second, IT departments everywhere are likely salivating. They have to support ONE platform across all access devices. Budgets = slashed while keeping the same level of service, this can increase efficiency by a large factor.

leemajors

06-20-2012, 12:50 PM

First, we don't know the price, they didn't say. Second, IT departments everywhere are likely salivating. They have to support ONE platform across all access devices. Budgets = slashed while keeping the same level of service, this can increase efficiency by a large factor.

As for pricing and availability, Microsoft is only going as far to say that it will be "on par with Ultrabook-class PCs" and available about three months after the Windows 8 launch (when the RT model will be available).

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/microsoft-announces-surface-for-windows-8-pro/

hater

06-20-2012, 01:08 PM

:lmao apple

still trying to patent the stylus :rollin

Venti Quattro

06-20-2012, 01:08 PM

I'm kind of wondering why they only put the kickstand at one angle. Otherwise, this looks like a promising solid device.

Venti Quattro

06-20-2012, 01:09 PM

:lmao apple

still trying to patent the stylus :rollin

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403425_10150897919496840_972066703_n.jpg

mingus

06-20-2012, 01:56 PM

i wonder if it will have external optical drive compatability. Apple is going to have to impress more than ever with the next tablet to maintain its current success.

cheguevara

06-20-2012, 02:10 PM

i wonder if it will have external optical drive compatability. Apple is going to have to impress more than ever with the next tablet to maintain its current success.

USB port, so yes.

MannyIsGod

06-20-2012, 04:06 PM

Nice. A Windows tablet sounds far far far far more appealing to me than an IOS tablet or an Android tablet.

lefty

06-20-2012, 04:07 PM

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403425_10150897919496840_972066703_n.jpg
:lmao

ElNono

06-20-2012, 04:28 PM

I was reading the low-end version with an ARM processor that's supposed to compete with the iPad price-wise only runs Windows 8 RT (Metro-only apps, no Win apps). The souped up version with an Intel processor is supposed to come out later on and include full blown Win8, but they're saying the prices for those are going to be in the Ultrabook range (not even sure what that is today).

I thought Win7 was a really good release for MSFT. Haven't played enough with Metro yet though.

ElNono

06-20-2012, 04:30 PM

The whole cover-as-a-keyboard looks so evident now... it's a great idea, tbh...

Sense

06-20-2012, 04:39 PM

N1zxDa3t0fg

Drachen

06-20-2012, 05:03 PM

N1zxDa3t0fg

yep, it happens at these types of presentations. It is always funny when it does and gives people something to talk about (like when it happens at apple, et al), but isn't really indicative of anything.

Sense

06-20-2012, 05:42 PM

I wonder how many back-ups he has back there.

mingus

06-20-2012, 07:34 PM

The whole cover-as-a-keyboard looks so evident now... it's a great idea, tbh...

128gb ultrabooks are ~1000. I bought my Asus for $950. If that's what the price range is going to be for the 128gb Surface, Ultrabooks are going to take a massive hit. I think the 128gb Surface will start off closer to $1500, while the 64gb will be closer to $1000.

mingus

06-20-2012, 07:36 PM

I was responding to your previous post.

ElNono

06-20-2012, 07:42 PM

128gb ultrabooks are ~1000. I bought my Asus for $950. If that's what the price range is going to be for the 128gb Surface, Ultrabooks are going to take a massive hit. I think the 128gb Surface will start off closer to $1500, while the 64gb will be closer to $1000.

I expect them to be more expensive than your average taiwanese manufacturer. I agree they're probably going to be in the $1000-$1500 camp... basically what an MacBook Air sells for.

FuzzyLumpkins

06-20-2012, 07:58 PM

Maybe but Microsoft has tried both pricing the same (Xbox) and lower(Zune) depending when entering new markets.

ElNono

06-20-2012, 08:13 PM

Maybe but Microsoft has tried both pricing the same (Xbox) and lower(Zune) depending when entering new markets.

At least with the XBox, Microsoft was making up money with the licensing for the games (they get a percentage of every sell), so they could sell the console at a loss.

They certainly can't afford another dud like the Zune, especially on a device that should cost quite a but more to make.

FuzzyLumpkins

06-20-2012, 08:19 PM

ElNono

06-20-2012, 10:00 PM

i don't disagree whatsoever. I am just saying they have been all over the place in release prices relative to the market. The Xbox360 didn't try to undercut the market. The Zune did. The Zune came out as portable mp3 players were on the decline which was a major problem.

It will be interesting to see what MS does.

I think it's either going to be a hit or it's the end of Ballmer... there's been plenty of shareholders asking for his head as it is...

vander

06-20-2012, 10:15 PM

1000 - 1500 for a tablet? :wow

I do want a windows 8 tablet, but I was expecting them to be around $800

ElNono

06-20-2012, 10:19 PM

1000 - 1500 for a tablet? :wow

I do want a windows 8 tablet, but I was expecting them to be around $800

Well, you can supposedly buy the lower-end model for that much. It only does Windows 8 RT though (Metro only).

CuckingFunt

06-20-2012, 10:41 PM

1000 - 1500 for a tablet? :wow

I do want a windows 8 tablet, but I was expecting them to be around $800

With USB and HDMI ports, though, and the included kickstand and keyboard/cover, AND the fact most laptops will eventually feature Windows 8 anyway, you have to assume this will be every bit as appealing to people looking for an Ultrabook as it is to people looking for a tablet.

The fact it can be easily used as a laptop, without sacrificing convenience or requiring a ton of peripherals, has even piqued my interest, and I'm someone who has been largely unimpressed by both tablets and the Windows 8 tablet-y interface.

Cry Havoc

06-21-2012, 12:50 AM

1000 - 1500 for a tablet? :wow

I do want a windows 8 tablet, but I was expecting them to be around $800

Seriously? It's a quad core I5 Ivy Bridge in a relatively tiny form factor. Performance wise this will eat the iPad ALIVE. The pro version shouldn't even be compared to tablets, because it's a full PC. The ARM based version will be very interesting to see.

velik_m

06-21-2012, 02:52 AM

https://p.twimg.com/Avw0BNbCAAEZXV-.jpg

TDMVPDPOY

06-21-2012, 03:21 AM

payin 1000-1500 for a tablet or ultra is stupid, you might as well pay for a high end gaming laptop for that sort of price and still come out on top of the ulta besides its dimensions

ps. ssd are fkn dirt cheap now, they are like below $1 per GB now....hopefully i grab one soon

cheguevara

06-21-2012, 09:42 AM

just grabbed a monster laptop for $1000. nothing beats windows for power/price combination.

MSFT will be selling their RT casual tablets cheaper than ipads
but their Pro tablets will probably be close to $1000

vander

06-21-2012, 02:55 PM

Seriously? It's a quad core I5 Ivy Bridge in a relatively tiny form factor. Performance wise this will eat the iPad ALIVE. The pro version shouldn't even be compared to tablets, because it's a full PC. The ARM based version will be very interesting to see.

i'm hoping there will be more options than that, i want the full windows, but i3 and 64gb is good enough for me

Drachen

06-21-2012, 03:02 PM

i'm hoping there will be more options than that, i want the full windows, but i3 and 64gb is good enough for me

You will probably be able to buy one of those from a third party (Dell, HP, etc)

ElNono

06-21-2012, 03:30 PM

You will probably be able to buy one of those from a third party (Dell, HP, etc)

Won't be a "Surface" though... I actually think that's going to be one of the interesting sub-plots to see here. How MSFT is going to react to the very likely possibility of semi-clones from other vendors.

Drachen

06-21-2012, 03:33 PM

no it won't be a surface. The surface will have other specs, but if you don't like them, then move on to a 3rd party OEM

leemajors

06-21-2012, 03:39 PM

I wonder what their service strategy will be for MS branded hardware like this outside of outsourcing to CTS/Flextronics like everyone else.

Venti Quattro

06-21-2012, 04:27 PM

Also, this is nice because there would be a mouse.

Venti Quattro

06-23-2012, 03:26 AM

So apparently, Microsoft is also planning to release an XBox Surface.

http://www.shifted2u.com/shifted/images/stories/2012/jun/16/microsoftxboxsurface_techspecs3.jpg

holy shit, indeed

vander

06-23-2012, 07:46 AM

so, the tablet is a part of the setup? Like a glorified controller? or just an alternative, portable gaming system?

NASpurs

06-23-2012, 08:03 AM

So apparently, Microsoft is also planning to release an XBox Surface.

I don't even know how to make sense of that. What's the purpose of the XBox Surface?

Does it replace the XBox you have at home meaning you have a portable XBox that you can take anywhere?

leemajors

06-23-2012, 11:49 AM

I don't even know how to make sense of that. What's the purpose of the XBox Surface?

Does it replace the XBox you have at home meaning you have a portable XBox that you can take anywhere?

they got jealous of the money being lost by Sony I guess

leemajors

06-25-2012, 10:55 AM

U mad, Acer?

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2012/06/25/acer_comment_microsoft_surface/

leemajors

06-25-2012, 11:11 AM

Also, what good is this folding keyboard if you can't even use it in your lap? Odd MS didn't give ANYONE an opportunity to use it at the keynote.

edit: it's not that unusual to let no one handle it.

Viva Las Espuelas

06-25-2012, 02:35 PM

So apparently, Microsoft is also planning to release an XBox Surface.

http://www.shifted2u.com/shifted/images/stories/2012/jun/16/microsoftxboxsurface_techspecs3.jpg

holy shit, indeed

1440p??!?

mingus

06-25-2012, 05:13 PM

Also, what good is this folding keyboard if you can't even use it in your lap? Odd MS didn't give ANYONE an opportunity to use it at the keynote.

edit: it's not that unusual to let no one handle it.

The folding keyboard can probably be used in your lap. Not as comfortable as a laptop would be though. Probably better to use it as a tablet if you're not by a table or desk, which I'm fine with. It's a downside to it, but I think the upside of the product--that you don't need to have it in your lap or on a desk or table when your casually computing--outweighs it.

jacobdrj

06-26-2012, 08:09 AM

1440p??!?

Yeah, the new HDMI 1.4 standard supports up to 2560x1440 without needing a displayport or dual-link DVI...

Would have preferred support for full 2560x1600, but oh well...

Quad HD is coming... Just not for another 15 years...

Fpoonsie

06-26-2012, 10:02 AM

Yeah, the new HDMI 1.4 standard supports up to 2560x1440 without needing a displayport or dual-link DVI...

Would have preferred support for full 2560x1600, but oh well...

Quad HD is coming... Just not for another 15 years...

What's Quad HD? Sounds...expensive.

slayermin

06-26-2012, 12:01 PM

I recall Deep Space Nine had tablets so technology is a few centuries ahead of schedule.

http://tabtimes.com/slideshow/ittech-tablets/2011/12/19/13-best-sci-fi-workplace-tablets-all-time

Drachen

06-26-2012, 08:36 PM

What's Quad HD? Sounds...expensive.

It's something that WC is advocating that the tech industry develop. Unfortunately, he keeps getting rebuffed.

MannyIsGod

06-26-2012, 09:16 PM

:lmao

leemajors

06-26-2012, 10:31 PM

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PHldGIjMhVs/0.jpg

Venti Quattro

07-18-2012, 09:09 PM

Microsoft sets Oct. 26 as Windows 8 launch date (http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-windows-8-october-26-20120718,0,3378995.story)

Windows 8 will launch Oct. 26, Microsoft announced Wednesday afternoon.

The upcoming operating system will indeed meet the October launch date many observers had been expecting for quite some time.

"Mark your calendar: Windows 8 will be available on October 26th, 2012," the company's @Windows account tweeted.

Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows, announced the news at the company's annual sales meeting. Earlier this month, the company had confirmed Windows 8 would launch in October but it had yet to give a solid date.

Windows 8 will work with touch-screen devices, mice, keyboard and styluses too.

The company has also said the Microsoft Surface table that was announced last month is supposed to launch in conjunction with Windows 8, but Microsoft did not mention it in a blog posted Wednesday.

The company has also said Windows Phone 8 will launch some time this fall, so on or around Oct. 26 is looking like a likely launch time for the mobile operating system.

leemajors

07-18-2012, 10:32 PM

lol Courier

vander

07-18-2012, 10:56 PM

table? or tablet? I thought the table came out a long time ago

jacobdrj

07-28-2012, 06:48 PM

Quad HD has literally 4 times the resolution of 1080p hd (the current full hd standard:

2160p is the shorthand name for Quad Full High Definition (QFHD), a video mode planned to appear in future HDTV products.[1] It has a resolution of 3840×2160 (8.3 megapixels in the 16:9 aspect ratio) and is one of the levels of 4K resolution.[2][3][4] The number 2160 stands for 2,160 lines of vertical display resolution, while the letter p stands for progressive scan or non-interlaced. In a progressive image, the lines of resolution of the image go from the top of the screen to the bottom.

2160p is also called "Quad HD" since it displays four times the number of pixels of the highest HDTV standard resolution, 1080p (a standard which is also known as "Full HD"). The only planned higher definition format for television is Ultra High Definition Television.

Venti Quattro

07-29-2012, 12:38 PM

Isn't that only for 100' TVs

DarrinS

07-30-2012, 04:23 PM

Why Microsoft's Surface Tablet Shames the PC Industry

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-19/why-microsofts-surface-tablet-should-shame-the-pc-industry

DarrinS

07-31-2012, 12:19 PM

Seriously? It's a quad core I5 Ivy Bridge in a relatively tiny form factor. Performance wise this will eat the iPad ALIVE. The pro version shouldn't even be compared to tablets, because it's a full PC. The ARM based version will be very interesting to see.

This.

Also, it cracks me up when people complain about $1000, when I paid $2500 back in the early 90's for something that could only be used as a boat anchor these days.

TeyshaBlue

07-31-2012, 02:18 PM

This.

Also, it cracks me up when people complain about $1000, when I paid $2500 back in the early 90's for something that could only be used as a boat anchor these days.

You don't want to know what I paid for an Apple IIe with dual disk drive and a monochorme monitor!:depressed

DarrinS

07-31-2012, 07:14 PM

You don't want to know what I paid for an Apple IIe with dual disk drive and a monochorme monitor!:depressed

I can only imagine. Used one of those in a high school class, if memory serves. Or was it a IIc? Fuck it -- I'm too old to remember.

leemajors

08-07-2012, 08:07 AM

Acer's CEO talks more about Surface:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/07/acer-tells-microsoft-to-think-twice-about-surface/

Acer executives have criticized Microsoft's decision to build its own tablet in the past, but now the firm's CEO has offered Redmond a more direct warning. "We have said [to Microsoft] think it over," Acer CEO JT Wang told the Financial Times. "Think Twice. It will create a huge negative impact for the ecosystem and other brands may take a negative reaction." Microsoft has acknowledged Surface's potential to frustrate its OEM partners, telling the Security and Exchange Commission that competing directly with manufactures might "affect their commitment" to the firm's platform. Not only does Wang agree with this admission, he seems worried that Microsoft will cause this damage for nothing. "It is not something you are good at," he continued, "so please think twice." Polite, but a bit bold. Then again, Acer has never been shy about telling Microsoft exactly what it thinks.

jacobdrj

08-07-2012, 10:20 AM

I am sorry, but if any of the suppliers would do it right they wouldn't have done this...

leemajors

08-07-2012, 11:38 AM

No they tried to cut OEM partners off at the knees, when it is the strength of their business.

jacobdrj

08-08-2012, 10:09 AM

No they tried to cut OEM partners off at the knees, when it is the strength of their business.

Suppliers have had many chances to make great products on their own on a number of different occasions without reference designs.

Maybe maybe MS should have done what Intel did with Ultrabooks, but it is blatantly obvious, based on MS' history that they don't want to make hardware long term. This was their attempt to show the suppliers up when they have been horribly lacking in innovation and design. If their feelings are hurt, they can just stop producing WinTel systems and get over it...

leemajors

08-08-2012, 10:21 AM

Suppliers have had many chances to make great products on their own on a number of different occasions without reference designs.

Maybe maybe MS should have done what Intel did with Ultrabooks, but it is blatantly obvious, based on MS' history that they don't want to make hardware long term. This was their attempt to show the suppliers up when they have been horribly lacking in innovation and design. If their feelings are hurt, they can just stop producing WinTel systems and get over it...

If OEM manufacturers quit making Windows machines the platform would shrivel up and die. Do you think Windows is popular because it is awesome? No, it's bundled with almost every PC out there. This is MS shitting on the people that got them to the top. The manufacturers make some great products that sell well despite shit software like ME and Vista.

jacobdrj

08-08-2012, 03:45 PM

If OEM manufacturers quit making Windows machines the platform would shrivel up and die. Do you think Windows is popular because it is awesome? No, it's bundled with almost every PC out there. This is MS shitting on the people that got them to the top. The manufacturers make some great products that sell well despite shit software like ME and Vista.

If those OEMs gave 5 minutes of actual testing time to some of those 'Vista Capable' pieces of trash they tried peddling to customers, much of the backlash would have been abated. Microsoft is not without blame for even CLAIMING that Vista could have run on those systems (it clearly couldn't have). But ethical and smart OEMs would have refused the moniker altogether.

Vista sucked, but so did XP... Windows 2000 was the last great OS from MS until Windows 7 IMHO... It may take 2 or 3 new OS releases before another great OS.

And the reason people use Windows isn't because it is bundled. It is because they are forced to for software compatibility, and choose to when given the choice of Linux (look at the return numbers for netbooks pre-loaded with Linux early on, they are craptastic). I wish it were not that way. I wish we had some of the simplicity of Mac OSX available for all. I wish we had some of the configurability of Linux and the stability too. But we don't. We are stuck with MS. And the least they can do is give us a reference design so we don't have another 'Vista Capable' disaster.

Besides, all MS did here was swap the thick part of the laptop for the thin part to make a tablet... Tablets are for consumption. Computers are for creation. This product won't catch on, as it will have a terrible time coming up with software compatibility.

leemajors

08-08-2012, 06:16 PM

Looks like it doesn't bother Lenovo:

http://goo.gl/9L2D8

Dumped Android for think pad tablet 2

Good points about software/compatability

leemajors

10-16-2012, 01:04 PM

$499, $599 with keyboard case:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/16/3271243/microsoft-surface-tablet-pricing-availability

CuckingFunt

10-16-2012, 01:47 PM

Price isn't low enough to justify an impulsive pre-order, but I'm definitely intrigued. Be nice to get my hands on it.

Drachen

10-16-2012, 01:59 PM

too much for the RT. I will watch and see how it develops.

DJ Mbenga

10-16-2012, 02:48 PM

I wanted 350 with cover its 499 without. Gonna wait now.

leemajors

10-16-2012, 03:27 PM

too much for the RT. I will watch and see how it develops.

Yeah that was my thought, who knows how expensive the intel ones will be

DJ Mbenga

10-16-2012, 04:46 PM

I wondered why they didn't make a 16gb one. Now I know why. On reddit they said with apps the os and office installed it takes up 12 gigs.

mingus

10-16-2012, 04:46 PM

I will wait for the 128 gb Surface that has normal Windows, not Windows RT. It will be way over priced probably, but if it is $1500 or less I am willing to pay for it. The 64 gb and 32 gb aren't not be enough to handle all the music and movies I will put on it.

leemajors

10-16-2012, 05:33 PM

leemajors

10-16-2012, 05:36 PM

I wondered why they didn't make a 16gb one. Now I know why. On reddit they said with apps the os and office installed it takes up 12 gigs.

if true that's a damn good reason not to get one at 32 or 64.

CuckingFunt

10-16-2012, 07:23 PM

too much for the RT. I will watch and see how it develops.

Yeah that was my thought, who knows how expensive the intel ones will be

I completely skipped that detail when I was looking over the article. That definitely changes my level of interest.

mingus

10-16-2012, 08:54 PM

why would you buy a surface at that price point when you could just get a nice laptop with a much bigger hdd?

Because of the portability to go along with and touch screen. Those weigh heavily for me.

leemajors

10-17-2012, 02:43 PM

Good info on Surface here:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3514556/windows-8-vs-windows-rt-surface-confused-microsoft-store-employees

RT does not have a full version of Office, or Legacy App support i.e. anything coded to run on x86/64 - no backwards compatability.

leemajors

10-23-2012, 08:27 PM

Verge Review:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3540550/microsoft-surface-review

7.0

DJ Mbenga

10-24-2012, 01:43 AM

potential unrealized so far is the consensus. ny times was more apt. the hardware is amazing, drool worthy. then the software, and they get depressed.

Trainwreck2100

11-23-2012, 02:13 PM

Been meaning to ask this for awhile. Has there ever been a worse commercial to launch a product? those dancing schoolgirls look angry as fuck too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5txqIl8jQ

leemajors

11-29-2012, 08:09 PM

Surface Pro will have half of the Surface battery life:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/29/3707716/microsoft-surface-pro-half-battery-life-rt

koriwhat

11-29-2012, 11:53 PM

Acer's CEO talks more about Surface:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/07/acer-tells-microsoft-to-think-twice-about-surface/

acer has made shitty products since day 1, wtf are they to say anything? my first computer, not the first in the house, back in the 90's was an acer and that pos was just that, a pos! i doubt they've gotten any better since. that's like emachine thinking they have any clout.

baseline bum

11-30-2012, 12:49 AM

Been meaning to ask this for awhile. Has there ever been a worse commercial to launch a product? those dancing schoolgirls look angry as fuck too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5txqIl8jQ

This was pretty awful

dmEvPZUdAVI

lefty

11-30-2012, 12:51 AM

acer has made shitty products since day 1, wtf are they to say anything? my first computer, not the first in the house, back in the 90's was an acer and that pos was just that, a pos! i doubt they've gotten any better since. that's like emachine thinking they have any clout.

I bought an Acer desktop in 2006

It died in 2009

Fuck Acer

koriwhat

11-30-2012, 12:59 AM

I bought an Acer desktop in 2006

It died in 2009

Fuck Acer

that's a pretty good run for an acer... pretty damn impressed.

leemajors

01-29-2013, 02:07 PM

64GB Surface Pro will have 23GB usable space:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/29/3929110/surface-pro-disk-space-windows-8

:wtf

TDMVPDPOY

01-29-2013, 02:22 PM

overpriced for that piece of shit, u can build one cheaper than that...look at the htpcs and low energy builds u can build...or even the rasberry

leemajors

01-29-2013, 02:28 PM

go ahead, build a tablet.

ElNono

01-29-2013, 02:59 PM

64GB Surface Pro will have 23GB usable space:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/29/3929110/surface-pro-disk-space-windows-8

:wtf

More stupid engineering... smh

Why not include a separate 32gb 'recovery' pendrive with the package instead?

Cry Havoc

01-29-2013, 03:31 PM

64GB Surface Pro will have 23GB usable space:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/29/3929110/surface-pro-disk-space-windows-8

:wtf

That's absurd.

However the backup partition is probably like 10 gigs.

leemajors

01-29-2013, 07:07 PM

That's absurd.

However the backup partition is probably like 10 gigs.

Completely absurd they couldn't get it down under 15. I think a full Mountain Lion install is somewhere around 5GB.

Cry Havoc

01-29-2013, 07:15 PM

Completely absurd they couldn't get it down under 15. I think a full Mountain Lion install is somewhere around 5GB.

To be fair, Windows is a lot more compatible with multiple devices.

leemajors

01-29-2013, 07:27 PM

To be fair, Windows is a lot more compatible with multiple devices.

Very true. Just really surprised they coulndt cut some fat with their flagship product.

ElNono

01-30-2013, 01:10 AM

To be fair, Windows is a lot more compatible with multiple devices.

Uh? This is a tablet. You don't need any major drivers other than possibly just mass storage.

Plus it's a connected device. Have it download any weird driver after the base OS installation.

The bloat comes from the built-in apps + backups of said apps on the restore partition.

leemajors

02-20-2013, 06:48 AM

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4008024/ballmer-surface-is-a-real-business-won-dominate-volume

After describing Surface as a "design point" to "prime the pump" and "sell a few million," Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is describing the company's tablets as a "real business" this week. In a brief interview with MIT technology Review, Ballmer avoids answering Surface sales questions, but says he's "super-glad" Microsoft did the Surface as it's important for the Windows ecosystem. "Surface is a real business," says Ballmer. "In an environment in which there’s 350 million PCs sold, I don’t think Surface is going to dominate volume, but it’s a real business."