The Amnesty

[Andthentherewas21]

Somehow there is still confusion about this even after a year of people being corrected about it. For the record, the Amnesty Clause only applies to players that were on the Amnestying team's roster at the close of the 2010-2011 season. So for example the if the Spurs were to amnesty someone, they would have had to have been on the team at the end of the 2010-2011 season. That person is still paid their remaining salary by the team, with exceptions for non-guaranteed and partially guaranteed salary which are paid on a different scale. The contract must have been in effect by the end of the 2010-2011 season, and cannot be applied to extensions.

Amnestied players then undergo a waiver process in which they can be bid on and claimed by teams under the salary cap. The winning bid amount is paid is deducted from the amnestying team's financial obligations to the player, however they cover the rest of the original contract's amount.

You also cannot resign an amnestied player until the duration of their amnestied contract has run out.

This means that:
You Cannot Amnesty a player you have traded for
You Cannot Amnesty a player who has signed an extension after the end of the 2010-2011 season.
You Cannot Amnesty a free agent signed to your team after the 2010-2011 season
You Cannot Amnesty a player and then immediately resign them to a smaller contract
You Cannot trade your Amnesty

Its time to stop all the "lets trade for a shitty contract and amnesty him" talk. It can't be done.

[Prime Time]

:tu I wish it was more flexible though. The only true canidate we have left for the amnesty is Bonner.

[ace3g]

just check my sig

[Legacy]

:rollin

[slick'81]

not gonna happen how very unfortunate

[spurraider21]

I think they will amnesty Bonner. With the news that Lorbek wants to head over, and considering he is going to fill the role of a "stretch big" it gets rid of Bonner's purpose. It would also give us slightly more financial firepower to make a move for somebody like Kaman

[Andthentherewas21]

At this point Bonner is really their only viable amnesty candidate. Guys like Blair, Kawhi, and Neal outproduce their contracts already so its not worth amnestying them. Splitter is worth the $3.9 million he makes, and if the Spurs wanted to get rid of him they could find a trade partner.

Sjax can't be amnestied because he was traded for. Duncan's contract is up so he can't be amnestied. Manu is an expiring, not that the Spurs would amnesty him. And Tony (assuming he is healthy and can see out of more than one eye) is the Spurs best trading piece very little chance he is amnestied.

That leaves Cory Joseph and Bonner. Joseph is owed $1.1 million with team options after the 2012-2013 season, Bonner is owed $3.6 million and 3.9 in 2013-2014 (with only somewhere around 1.5 guaranteed). Neither contract really gives you much capspace, but amnestying Bonner might allow them to offer a little more to a potential FA.

[T Park]

I think they will amnesty Bonner. With the news that Lorbek wants to head over, and considering he is going to fill the role of a "stretch big" it gets rid of Bonner's purpose. It would also give us slightly more financial firepower to make a move for somebody like Kaman


They don't have the money to get Kaman....

[Kori Ellis]

"They should amnesty Parker since he got glass in his eye." - Spurs Fans

[Andthentherewas21]

This is probably more of a Bruno question, but does anyone know what the cap ramifications would be if Parker was forced to retire due to the whole glass in the eye thing?

[Blackjack]

"They should amnesty Parker since he got glass in his eye." - Spurs Fans

I'd amnesty Bonner for the corpse of Sammy Davis Jr.

[TDMVPDPOY]

u amnesty parker if that injury is serious

just like how the suns didnt give amare the max he wanted cause of his eyes or someshit

[Hoops Czar]

I'd amnesty Bonner for the corpse of Sammy Davis Jr.

You amnesty Bonner just so you can offer more to Diaw. Having Diaw around makes Bonner redundant.

[racm]

You amnesty Bonner just so you can offer more to Diaw. Having Diaw around makes Bonner redundant.

And allow the Spurs to bring in Lorbek.

[Bruno]

This is probably more of a Bruno question, but does anyone know what the cap ramifications would be if Parker was forced to retire due to the whole glass in the eye thing?

His salary would be taken of cap 1 year after the injury.


Regarding the amnesty, If Spurs want to use it this year, they must do it between July 11th and July 17th (included). Using it on Bonner might be a strong possibility.

[racm]

Does Pop dislike him enough after he disappeared in the WCF (even though he was doing okay in the first two rounds) again by now that the FO can consider amnestying him?

[Ice009]

Does Pop dislike him enough after he disappeared in the WCF (even though he was doing okay in the first two rounds) again by now that the FO can consider amnestying him?

What are his stats for those first two rounds. I may be wrong, but if seemed like he only hit about 1 shot per game for the whole playoffs. I'd have to look it up, but that still wouldn't change my opinion if he hit more shots then I recall in the first couple of rounds.

When shooting is your only skill and you can only barely make 1 shot per game, then 3 million is just way too much money. You can get almost anyone to do that for a cheaper price. I won't mention his choking and all around gutless play in the playoffs. The FO must get rid of him or use the amnesty on him if they can't trade him.

[Dex]

If the Spurs amnesty Bonner (which they should), it would just be the final coup of the Richard Jefferson trade.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Please amnesty Bonner

[Spurtacus]

Spurs still have to pay the remainder of the ginger's salary but it will be worth it. I don't want playoff chokers playing on this team.

[Duncan2177]

Spurs still have to pay the remainder of the ginger's salary but it will be worth it. I don't want playoff chokers playing on this team.

:tu

[spurso]

"They should amnesty Parker since he got glass in his eye." - Spurs Fans
What, Parker has a glass eye. I knew there had to be a reason he played so bad against the thunder. AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[spurraider21]

They don't have the money to get Kaman....

Probably not. He seems like he wants to play for a contender though, and if Bonner's money goes to Lorbek we would at least have the full sized MLE at our disposal, which is what a player can expect if joining a contending team. Unless he resigns with the Hornets, who have a ton of cap space

[therealtruth]

:tu I wish it was more flexible though. The only true canidate we have left for the amnesty is Bonner.

The whole point of it was to allow the team to get out of bad contracts they signed. If they trade for a player then it was another team that signed them to a bad contract.

[Mel_13]

Probably not. He seems like he wants to play for a contender though, and if Bonner's money goes to Lorbek we would at least have the full sized MLE at our disposal, which is what a player can expect if joining a contending team. Unless he resigns with the Hornets, who have a ton of cap space

It doesn't work that way. Lorbek has to be signed using an exception. Using the amnesty on Bonner does not create a new exception.

[Blackjack]

You amnesty Bonner just so you can offer more to Diaw. Having Diaw around makes Bonner redundant.

Diaw doesn't make Bonner redundant, he makes him irrelevant - like the Playoffs.

[elemento]

Mel and Bruno

What happens with the last year of Bonner's contract if SA amnesty him considering it's only 1m guaranteed ? I think i have asked this question but we couldn't know because the new CBA was not online. But now it is. Do you guys have the answer now ?

Thanks in advance

[Duncan2177]

Did the spurs last offseason when they didn't amnesty RJ say they were going to use the amnesty next summer?

[Mel_13]

Mel and Bruno

What happens with the last year of Bonner's contract if SA amnesty him considering it's only 1m guaranteed ? I think i have asked this question but we couldn't know because the new CBA was not online. But now it is. Do you guys have the answer now ?

Thanks in advance

Larry Coon on the amnesty provision:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

As I understand it, the Spurs would only be liable for the guaranteed portion of Bonner's salary in 2013-14.

[Mel_13]

Did the spurs last offseason when they didn't amnesty RJ say they were going to use the amnesty next summer?

No.

[T Park]

Bonner doesn't make enough for Amnesty to be an option....

[baseline bum]

He could be making minimum and amnestying his faggot ass would be the right thing to do.

[Mel_13]

Bonner doesn't make enough for Amnesty to be an option....

Not true.

There are realistic scenarios in which using the amnesty on Bonner could be useful from a basketball and/or financial perspective.

[TDMVPDPOY]

tp should be an option if his eye injury doesnt work out....

spurs go into rebuilding mode end of the coming season with gino/jax off the books, duncan contract is short term also....

[ElNono]

The amnesty is such a great tool to waste it on that red-headed choker... but if it financially clears enough room to add a solid piece, you do it. Plus the odds are some other team would pick him up for at least half of what he makes right now, so the difference the Spurs would have to pay would be substantially smaller...

Then again, wouldn't surprise me if he starts next season :pctoss

[Luxic]

Though I would like it, I don't think Bonner will be amnestied. The only reason for the FO to do so would be if it cleared valuable cap space. Which it doesn't.

According to ShamSports (http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/spurs.jsp), Spurs' committed payroll for next season is $49.8M (roughly $8M below the $58M cap). But we also have $39.5M in free agents' cap holds (http://www.shamsports.com/whatthedeuce.htm) which prevent us from using the cap space until either those free agents are resigned or their rights are renounced.

Now, let's suppose we want to try and make as much room as possibile.

As for the committed salries, three players are signed to unguaranteed deals: Byars ($0.85M), Neal ($0.85M) and Blair ($1M, if waived before Nov. 1st). However, I'd waive only Byars, since Neal and Blair could be expendible in a trade. This cuts the payroll down to $49M.

Most importantly, though, we need to get rid of the cap holds. Some of them are easily renounceable, as they are from players who are either retired (Horry $6.9M; G. Robinson, Stoudamire, Van Exel, Vaughn, $0.85M each) or unwanted (Quinn $0.85M, J. Anderson $1.5M); others are not, as you might want to be able to resign them. So, we're left with Duncan ($22.2M), Green ($2.7M), Mills ($1M) and Diaw ($0,85M), for a total of $26.7M. Still too much.

But since we know that Duncan, unlike the other three, is surely going to take a pay cut, we can (or rather, we have to) immediately proceed to resign him. Let's say he accepts a deal as low as $8M per season. The cap holds now amount to only $4.6M, while the commited salaries have grown to $57M.

To sum it up: $57M in salaries + $4.6M in cap holds = $61.6M for salary cap purposes. This means that amnestying Bonner's $3.6M is not going to clear any cap room ($61.6M - $3.6M = $58M). Of course, you may cut a couple more millions by renouncing Mills and waiving Blair, or have Duncan sign at a lower figure; but you might also have him sign for more or you might be forced to sign Green at an higher salary than his cap hold before you get to spend your cap room (since he's a restricted free agent).