Winning MVP and finals MVP in the same season

[Goran Dragic]

MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Moses Malone, etc. have all done it at least once. MJ doing it 4 times demonstrates why he's the GOAT.

Lebron is one game away from doing it for the first time in his career and setting himself on the path of an all time great.

:lol Kobe never being able to accomplish the ultimate feat of the NBA

[JamStone]

Shane Battier is the Finals MVP

[BanditHiro]

should have won DPOY this year as well.

[cheguevara]

Kobe still in the league?

[baseline bum]

MJ doing it 4 times demonstrates why he's the GOAT.

Only one other player has even done it twice: Bird

NBA MVP AND FINALS MVP TOGETHER IN A SEASON:
Micheal Jordan (91,92,96,98)
Larry Bird (84, 86)
LeBron James (12)
Tim Duncan (03)
Shaquille O'Neal (00)
Hakeem Olajuwon (94)
Magic Johnson (87)
Moses Malone (83)
Kareem Addul-Jabbar (71)
Willis Reed (70)

[VBM]

Pretty legit, especially since he's going against the player many thought should have been the MVP. Although wasn't that the same situation in 03 (iirc, everyone wanted Kidd to win it that year).

[baseline bum]

It really should have been 5 times for Jordan too; there was absolutely no way in hell Malone deserved the 97 MVP when Jordan led his team to 69 wins. The Bulls slipped a bit in the 93 season so at least the Barkley MVP over Jordan is somewhat understandable.

[DAF86]

That's THE sign of true greatness.

All-time GOAT list should rank first all those that accomplished this feat and then the others.

[baseline bum]

Russell and Chamberlain should have been on that list too, but they didn't start giving out the award until 1969 (lol 1969 sportswriters thinking we have to give it to det honky West because we don't like that uppity nigga Russell).

[Reck]

Shane Battier is the Finals MVP

This right here.

[Goran Dragic]

Only one other player has even done it twice: Bird

NBA MVP AND FINALS MVP TOGETHER IN A SEASON:
Micheal Jordan (91,92,96,98)
Larry Bird (84, 86)
LeBron James (12)
Tim Duncan (03)
Shaquille O'Neal (00)
Hakeem Olajuwon (94)
Magic Johnson (87)
Moses Malone (83)
Kareem Addul-Jabbar (71)
Willis Reed (70)
Pretty impressive list tbh with no flukes on it.

[Goran Dragic]

That's THE sign of true greatness.

All-time GOAT list should rank first all those that accomplished this feat and then the others.
Yup. It means you were great enough and dominant enough to carry a team to a title that was a lot more dependent on its best player than the typical championship team is. Most championship teams have a franchise player at 1A and 1B making it impossible for an MVP candidate to emerge from said team.

[HarlemHeat37]

Yup, been saying it for years, tbh..

In addition to baseline's list, Wilt and Russell would have also accomplished the feat, had the award been given during their era..

Every true legend has accomplished this feat..I cannot place a player in the pantheon of greats without having this feat on their resume, tbh..Lebron will never be considered a true great, without this feat..

:lol not having MVP-Finals MVP on the resume
:lol missing the playoffs in his prime
:lol the worst seasons of his career all years without Phil Jackson as coach
:lol how can it be a Lake with no Fish?
:lol only borderline top 10 legend that is hated by advanced stats

[timvp]

Ballots were due unusually early in 1999 and voters missed out on the Spurs coming all the way back and capturing the first seed. Otherwise, Duncan had a pretty damn good chance of winning the MVP that year too, tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

K:lol:lol:lol:lol:lolbe

[baseline bum]

K:lol:lol:lol:lol:lolbe

He's the first outside the door to the Pantheon; no shame in that.

[Venti Quattro]

He's the first outside the door to the Pantheon; no shame in that.

He's already well inside the Pantheon in my version of the TBOB. :lol

[baseline bum]

Kobe Bryant : NBA :: Reggie Miller : UCLA tbh

[gaKNOW!blee]

Yup, been saying it for years, tbh..

In addition to baseline's list, Wilt and Russell would have also accomplished the feat, had the award been given during their era..

Every true legend has accomplished this feat..I cannot place a player in the pantheon of greats without having this feat on their resume, tbh..Lebron will never be considered a true great, without this feat..

:lol not having MVP-Finals MVP on the resume
:lol missing the playoffs in his prime
:lol the worst seasons of his career all years without Phil Jackson as coach
:lol how can it be a Lake with no Fish?
:lol only borderline top 10 legend that is hated by advanced stats

:lol 6-24

[Ace]

Shane Battier is the Finals MVP

Because he had that one game with 17pts? His 9pts and 4pts last two games definitely should give him consideration imo

[lefty]

Kobe still in the league?

I dont know, but he was spotted outside Staples Center scalping tickets during the Lakers-OKC series

[Clipper Nation]

:lol LeClutch also has 3 MVP's total
:lol TOSB Kobrick only got one, and it was a pity MVP that CP3 deserved
:lol Dirk and Nash getting MVP's before Kobrick
:lol Kobrick : All-NBA teams :: Jeter : Golden Gloves
:lol Tracy McGrady better than Kobrick in their primes

[baseline bum]

Kobe still in the league?

You don't remember him blowing game 2?

mUTIUb6Y2nw

[Venti Quattro]

:lol the entire Clippers franchise

[LkrFan]

MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Moses Malone, etc. have all done it at least once. MJ doing it 4 times demonstrates why he's the GOAT.

Lebron is one game away from doing it for the first time in his career and setting himself on the path of an all time great.

:lol Kobe never being able to accomplish the ultimate feat of the NBA

Finals MVP > RS MVP. As I post this, Kobe: 2, LeHype: 0. That's not the point though. It took him colluding with Bosh-spice and D-Whistle to possibly ring. After 8 years, Kobe already did that 3 times. And before you say Shaq won them 3 rings for him, it is Kobe: 2 - Shaq: 1 after "The Big Split".

You and many Laker haters are obsessed with Kobe. He's been fishing for 2 months now and you guys keep bringing him up. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol the entire Clippers franchise

:lol Kobrick still almost signed with us in '04

[LkrFan]

:lol LeClutch also has 3 MVP's total
:lol TOSB Kobrick only got one, and it was a pity MVP that CP3 deserved
:lol Dirk and Nash getting MVP's before Kobrick
:lol Kobrick : All-NBA teams :: Jeter : Golden Gloves
:lol Tracy McGrady better than Kobrick in their primes

:lol

#OBSESSED

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Kobrick still almost signed with us in '04

:lol he realized that he'd be signing with the NBA's doormats

[Venti Quattro]

You don't remember him blowing game 2?

mUTIUb6Y2nw

K:lol:lol:lol:lol:lolbe solidified his T:lolSB status with that 3-minute stretch in Game 2.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol he realized that he'd be signing with the NBA's doormats

:lol Didn't even consider the Bobcats
:lol Kobrick wanting Elton Brand to carry him

[Clipper Nation]

:lol

#OBSESSED

:lol Look at your own avatar and signature
:lol Desperately hoping LeClutch won't eclipse Kobrick's legacy with a ring and Finals MVP and league MVP all in one season

[Goran Dragic]

Finals MVP > RS MVP. As I post this, Kobe: 2, LeHype: 0. That's not the point though. It took him colluding with Bosh-spice and D-Whistle to possibly ring.
Finals MVP and RS MVP together in the same year was the point of this thread. Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade are just names. Wade has been horribly inconsistent and streaky during the playoffs while Bosh was injured for a large chunk of the playoffs. The Heat depend on Lebron to win games with hero ball more than any of the Lakers championship teams depended on Kobe.


After 8 years, Kobe already did that 3 times. And before you say Shaq won them 3 rings for him, it is Kobe: 2 - Shaq: 1 after "The Big Split".
The "Kobe 2 - Shaq 1 after their divorce" argument is Cully's intellectual dishonesty at its finest. At the time of their divorce, Shaq was 32 and Kobe was almost 26. Kobe's best years were ahead of him and Shaq's best years were behind him. The fact Kobe won more rings after his 26th birthday than Shaq did after his 32nd birthday does absolutely nothing to take away from the fact that Kobe was the 1B to Shaq's 1A from 2000-2002, hence why he had no finals MVPs or regular season MVPs during that stretch while Shaq had 3 finals MVPs, 1 regular season MVP, and finished top 3 in MVP voting every year from 2000-2002 while the best Kobe did was finish 5th.

2000-2002 Shaq is a lot better than 2012 Wade and 2012 Bosh put together. Prime Shaq was one of the most dominant players of all time.

[baseline bum]

Finals MVP and RS MVP together in the same year was the point of this thread. Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade are just names. Wade has been horribly inconsistent and streaky during the playoffs while Bosh was injured for a large chunk of the playoffs. The Heat depend on Lebron to win games with hero ball more than any of the Lakers championship teams depended on Kobe.


Hell, the Heat's title depends way more on James than any of the Lakers' titles did on Shaq, much less Bryant.

[tesseractive]

:lol Kobrick still almost signed with us in '04

Isn't "almost" pretty much the story of the whole Clippers franchise?

[TheMACHINE]

lol "still almost"

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Whining for a trade on Stephen A's radio show
:lol "I'd rather play on Mars"
:lol "Wahhhh, Jerry Buss lied to me!"
:lol "I didn't sign up for a rebuilding project" (which was caused by him forcing Shaq out of town, tbh)

[baseline bum]

:lol the fuck? ship his ass out
:lol stop snitchin'
:lol Vanessa wears the pants and likely tossed Malone's salad

[timvp]

missing the play:lolffs in your prime

[TE]

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Wanting to trade Bynum for Jason Kidd
:lol The only way Kobrick can be like Jordan is if he becomes a general manager

[Bynumite]

http://cdn2.spong.com/pack/s/u/supermonke217937l/_-Super-Monkey-Ball-Adventure-PS2-_.jpg

[lefty]

:lol Wanting to trade Bynum for Jason Kidd
:lol The only way Kobrick can be like Jordan is if he becomes a general manager

:lmao

/thread

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan should have done it twice as he was MVP in 99 IMO.. Malone getting it again was overkill...

[Killakobe81]

Who gives two shits about Kobe right now?! This is Lebron's night. I refuse to discuss Bryant for at least the next week. If he does it, Lebron still has an outside shot at GOAT ...Kobe does not.

[Goran Dragic]

:lol Wanting to trade Bynum for Jason Kidd
:lol The only way Kobrick can be like Jordan is if he becomes a general manager
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Josepatches_]

missing the play:lolffs in your prime


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[Josepatches_]

:lol Wanting to trade Bynum for Jason Kidd
:lol The only way Kobrick can be like Jordan is if he becomes a general manager

:lmao