View Full Version : DeJuan is on the trading block.
Mr.Bottomtooth
06-28-2012, 10:49 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Spurs are shopping forward DeJuan Blair, league sources tell Y! Spurs have Euro picks they could bring over next season, need roster space.
Redshadows
06-28-2012, 10:51 AM
good
Mr.Bottomtooth
06-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
After falling out of the rotation this season in San Antonio, DeJuan Blair is open to a move, sources tell Y!
timvp
06-28-2012, 10:53 AM
No surprising but very interesting that it's becoming public knowledge. Wonder if something is heating up.
It makes a lot of sense to trade him at some point tonight.
Today could get interesting quickly.
:hungry:
timvp
06-28-2012, 10:54 AM
Going into next year, if the Spurs aren't planning on starting Blair, he doesn't fit on the team at all. And starting him seems unlikely.
Perhaps for a high 2d round pick? (If so, there may be some intriguing Euros as well as some upside statesides like Tony Wroten.)
elemento
06-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Hopefully we get something good in return
Can you imagine the meltdown here if DB gets 20 rebounds in his 1st game against SA next season ? :lmao
MR-Clutch
06-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Draft day is the best day of the summer. Its like the christmas of summer,it's so exciting!
NickiRasgo
06-28-2012, 10:59 AM
DeJuan Blair @DeJuan45
Great morning have a great day
acoelho1
06-28-2012, 11:00 AM
Interesting. I wonder if Cleveland would be open to trading the 24th pick and Varejao. Not sure how the cap numbers would work out but packaging Splitter, Blair, Neal and/or Bonner would make us better defensively. Not sure where he is on the injury though. With the 24th pick, Andrew Nicholson might be available.
Cant_Be_Faded
06-28-2012, 11:01 AM
:stirpot:
Please make a move RC
Preferably involving a rocket
Redshadows
06-28-2012, 11:01 AM
And I hope Neal is also on the trading block. I don't want to see him at back-up PG any more.
baseline bum
06-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Wonder if he can get them into the late first? If they could flip him to land someone like Quincy Miller, Marquis Teague, or Tony Wroten, it would be a good gamble. We already know Bonner is ahead of him in the rotation anyways, so the only angle I could take against it is a moot point.
Juggity
06-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Dejuan's a nice guy, but not a fit with the spurs anymore.
Interesting. I wonder if Cleveland would be open to trading the 24th pick and Varejao.
Good point. Varejao could always stop LeBron.
timvp
06-28-2012, 11:05 AM
I'd guess that Blair is worth a pick in the 30s. If they can get a first rounder for him, that'd be a major win.
timvp
06-28-2012, 11:07 AM
league sources tell Y! Spurs have Euro picks they could bring over next season, need roster spaceThat's a nice way to say the Spurs need to go in a different direction because Blair has proven to be too small to be anything close to an average defender.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Absolutely. Blair is on a very cheap contract, so this makes a lot of sense. If the Spurs are able to get nothing more than an early or mid-second, that would still be acceptable. A late first would be a freaking home run!
Now, if they can just figure out a way to move Bonner, we'd really be in the ball park!
timtonymanu
06-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Not surprised.
It is pretty discouraging although that Hill, Blair, and Anderson didn't work out here when they looked great in their rookie seasons.
Let's hope Leonard doesn't go down the same path but he's on a different level.
Redshadows
06-28-2012, 11:08 AM
Blair and Neal for 20s pick, please.
MR-Clutch
06-28-2012, 11:10 AM
Perhaps for a high 2d round pick? (If so, there may be some intriguing Euros as well as some upside statesides like Tony Wroten.)
Would love Wroten!
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 11:10 AM
Draft day is the best day of the summer. Its like the christmas of summer,it's so exciting!
It really is. Draft day is, by far, my favorite Sports day of the year.
Happy Draft Day, everyone!
baseline bum
06-28-2012, 11:10 AM
What's interesting is ESPN still talks like he was a really major draft steal whenever they discuss Sullinger. Maybe there is hope of getting into the end of the first. Maybe Miami where they could use a scorer inside and have the defenders to cover for him?
timvp
06-28-2012, 11:14 AM
It is pretty discouraging although that Hill, Blair, and Anderson didn't work out here when they looked great in their rookie seasons.
Hill worked out very well, IMO. He played well for the Spurs and then they were able to trade him for three assets, including a lottery pick.
If the Spurs can trade Blair for a first round pick, that'd be another huge success. Shall be interesting to see what the Spurs get.
Trading Blair today is probably as close to selling high as possible. His stats look really good. His contract details are great. If the Spurs wait any longer, the only way for his stock to go is down, tbh.
silverblk mystix
06-28-2012, 11:15 AM
If the spurs move blair and keep bonner...well it would not surprise me anymore.
Confirmation of what we all expected. What's interesting is that even if he is not moved tonight, this signals he'll (1) probably continued to shopped in general trade talks as the summer moves on, or (2) be non-guaranteed/waived to start the season.
MR-Clutch
06-28-2012, 11:15 AM
What's interesting is ESPN still talks like he was a really major draft steal whenever they discuss Sullinger. Maybe there is hope of getting into the end of the first. Maybe Miami where they could use a scorer inside and have the defenders to cover for him?
I've noticed that too, he is always mentioned about good players falling and how he turned out to be pretty good for us. I also hear the griZzlies are shopping their 25th pick but I don't really see Blair carving out a role for himself there.
timvp
06-28-2012, 11:18 AM
If the spurs move blair and keep bonner...well it would not surprise me anymore.Bonner has negative value. Right now, amnesty sounds like the best option for him.
Confirmation of what we all expected. What's interesting is that even if he is not moved tonight, this signals he'll (1) probably continued to shopped in general trade talks as the summer moves on, or (2) be non-guaranteed/waived to start the season.
No way Blair gets waived. He's no longer a fit but he's well worth his salary. He's getting paid probably 1/3rd of his market value.
Cant_Be_Faded
06-28-2012, 11:20 AM
Baseline, I think Blair would be downright nasty on that Miami team.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 11:20 AM
I've noticed that too, he is always mentioned about good players falling and how he turned out to be pretty good for us. I also hear the griZzlies are shopping their 25th pick but I don't really see Blair carving out a role for himself there.
I've noticed that Blair is usually the first name mentioned when analysts and talking radio heads laud the Spurs for winning with their youth movement.
For all his deficiencies, Blair did about as well as he could've. Sure it would've helped if he had a better face-up jumper, but his limitations are just too striking for a frontline that is low on size, skill and athleticism.
I certainly hope the Spurs get a solid pick for Blair. However, moving Blair is only the first phase. They MUST get Bonner off this roster in order to complete the frontline upgrade.
spurraider21
06-28-2012, 11:20 AM
not sure i'm a fan of this. the dude is making peanuts and eats a ton of minutes. considering you deal for equal salary its not like we'd get a good player in return and its highly unlikely we get more than a 2nd round pick, and i'd rather just keep the dancing bear around
yavozerb
06-28-2012, 11:27 AM
not sure i'm a fan of this. the dude is making peanuts and eats a ton of minutes. considering you deal for equal salary its not like we'd get a good player in return and its highly unlikely we get more than a 2nd round pick, and i'd rather just keep the dancing bear around
The dude is only making peanuts for 1 more season and then wants to get paid...Time to move him if possible
SamoanTD
06-28-2012, 11:33 AM
And so it begins. :stirpot:
TimmehC
06-28-2012, 11:40 AM
Well if Budinger was worth #18, hopefully Dejuan is somewhere around 25-30.
loveforthegame
06-28-2012, 11:42 AM
I'd be happy with an early to mid 2nd round pick.
jimbo
06-28-2012, 11:43 AM
I could see Blair working out with Miami. He has a cheap contract and is a good garbage man and rebounder. Works well with the midgetball Spo likes to run sometimes too.
Blair for the 27th pick and then package that with the 2nd round pick to move up?
DesignatedT
06-28-2012, 11:44 AM
Expect a Dejuan for a 2nd rounder swap.
spurspokesman
06-28-2012, 11:48 AM
Hopefully we get something good in return
Can you imagine the meltdown here if DB gets 20 rebounds in his 1st game against SA next season ? :lmao
:lmao Very possible given our current frontline.
baseline bum
06-28-2012, 11:49 AM
Expect a Dejuan for a 2nd rounder swap.
I wouldn't make that move; I think he has more value as cheap injury insurance for the Spurs than that.
yavozerb
06-28-2012, 11:53 AM
I wouldn't make that move; I think he has more value as cheap injury insurance for the Spurs than that.
You wait to move Blair if its for 2nd rd pick until you see what players are available in my opinion..You move him ASAP if someone is offering a 1st rd pick
benefactor
06-28-2012, 11:55 AM
Well if Budinger was worth #18, hopefully Dejuan is somewhere around 25-30.
:tu
DesignatedT
06-28-2012, 11:55 AM
Prepare to be disappointed was my point. Spurs won't get anything of much value for Blair, and if they are dead-set on getting rid of him then I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it for a 2nd round pick if there is a prospect they like on the board still.
spurspokesman
06-28-2012, 11:57 AM
Baseline, I think Blair would be downright nasty on that Miami team.
me 2
pad300
06-28-2012, 11:59 AM
I wouldn't move him unless there was someone specific the Spurs wanted. ie. a mid-draft deal, just like the Kawhi deal was done. Rather, I would hold him and look to use him with Bonner & Neal for a S&T deal. Preferably one at or slightly above the MLE, where we could offer a team a credible choice between the FA walking for nothing, or taking a Blair, Bonner, and/or Neal package...
spurspokesman
06-28-2012, 12:01 PM
Baseline, I think Blair would be downright nasty on that Miami team.
me 2. Would suck if we made it to the finals and had to see him helping them.
Mugen
06-28-2012, 12:15 PM
The Spurs could flip DeJuan for Anthony Davis and the offseason would still be a wash if ginger is still on the team at the start of next season.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 12:17 PM
The Spurs could flip DeJuan for Anthony Davis and the offseason would still be a wash if ginger is still on the team at the start of next season.
:lol
Dejuan Blair for Bernard James anyone?
swaggerjackson
06-28-2012, 12:30 PM
I would certainly love a first round pick for Blair and would be content with a high pick in the 2nd round, but does anyone get the impression that maybe they are trying to unload him purely for roster space? They could decline his option but he has value so that is a dumb idea. This could just be my optimism but I can't help but think they are excited about de colo, Lorbek, maybe Bertans, and some free agent options. And they just need to get rid of some pieces who are good players but a bad fit. Neal is a good player with a small deal but he can't protect the ball enough to play point and he is a bad defender. Blair is a good big but he again is a poor defender and inconsistent. Tiago is certainly the best of the three but he is not easily paired with Duncan.
Trading these guys for draft picks and cash might be a good option just to open up space to bring in players who better compliment the system. Or the Spurs could actually have a player they covet highly enough to sacrifice key players to get (see George Hill).
TimmehC
06-28-2012, 12:34 PM
Likely for future pick, if not spurs will look to dump him. Maybe GS will give us our pick back for him, or Clev for a second rounder. Also look for Mil, Wash, Sac and Philly to have some interest.
Dubs fans would riot, and demad Lacob be burned at the stake.
DesignatedT
06-28-2012, 12:38 PM
Not sure I'd rather have GS's pick compared to the 31-33 range. No guaranteed deals and we can work out a contract in our favor.
Duncan2177
06-28-2012, 12:40 PM
The spurs need to package Blair and Bonner. What's the point of having Bonner with Lorbek coming?
Seventyniner
06-28-2012, 12:41 PM
I think it's more likely that Blair is added to a trade as a sweetener than him being traded alone. Even if it's next year's 1st + Blair for a 1st this year.
loveforthegame
06-28-2012, 12:43 PM
The Blair project isn't working anymore. It doesn't matter how well he plays during the regular season if he's just going to be glued to the bench in the playoffs.
It's quite possible his replacement is no better than him but it's time to try something different.
Same thing with Bonner but that's another thread.
dbestpro
06-28-2012, 01:01 PM
I would be shocked if Blair was moved for a 2nd round pick. Early 2nd round picks are in many circles considered more valuable than late first round picks because there is no guaranteed monies. Look for Blair to go to Memphis or some other team that has salary issues for the next few years in the late first round.
Would be funny if they ended up trading Blair and get Sullinger in return, but most likely will do another Euro for the draft and stash factor.
MR-Clutch
06-28-2012, 01:03 PM
How high a pick can the Spurs get for Blair?
John Hollinger (2:02 PM)
20s at best. Knee still a concern, and so is his defense, and you only get him for one year. But a productive player.
MR-Clutch
06-28-2012, 01:04 PM
Also, Project spurs was reporting that the spurs are interested in a kid named Josh Magette.http://projectspurs.com/2012-articles/june/spurs-inquired-about-josh-magette.html
ro_50
06-28-2012, 01:22 PM
Also, Project spurs was reporting that the spurs are interested in a kid named Josh Magette.http://projectspurs.com/2012-articles/june/spurs-inquired-about-josh-magette.html
I'm an alma mater at the UAH and seen this kid play nearly 20 times.
I've met him and he's a great kid. He was perhaps the best PG in Division 2 and plays a great team game.
I'm not sure how his skills translate to the NBA but he has been valued by NBA scouts as a sleeper guy who may get at least a summer camp tryout.
Coach Acuff informed me over the year that scouts have come down to HSV while they were scouting other players in the Southeast to take a look see at him.
I'm not sure if the Spurs ever went to Huntsville (I'm from there) but a few scouts have.
clambake
06-28-2012, 01:25 PM
I'm an alma mater at the UAH and seen this kid play nearly 20 times.
I've met him and he's a great kid. He was perhaps the best PG in Division 2 and plays a great team game.
I'm not sure how his skills translate to the NBA but he has been valued by NBA scouts as a sleeper guy who may get at least a summer camp tryout.
Coach Acuff informed me over the year that scouts have come down to HSV while they were scouting other players in the Southeast to take a look see at him.
I'm not sure if the Spurs ever went to Huntsville (I'm from there) but a few scouts have.
inside info. nice
timvp
06-28-2012, 01:28 PM
Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress
To follow up on @WojYahooNBA 's report that the Spurs are shopping DeJuan Blair, one team that really likes him I'm told is Golden State.
Very interesting . . .
Blair for 30 would be ironic but it'd be a good deal depending on who drops. The Warriors also have 35. Tbh, 35 might have more value than 30 due to the non-guaranteed contract that's associated with it.
T Park
06-28-2012, 01:30 PM
So in effect if they got te 30, the theoretical trade was Dejuan Blair and Richard Jefferson for Stephen Jackson.
Still a great trade.
timtonymanu
06-28-2012, 01:32 PM
:lol Trade Bonner with Blair to GS and they will have Jefferson/Bonner/Blair together.
yavozerb
06-28-2012, 01:32 PM
So in effect if they got te 30, the theoretical trade was Dejuan Blair and Richard Jefferson for Stephen Jackson.
Still a great trade.
Without a doubt...
TimmehC
06-28-2012, 01:34 PM
Bonner and Blair for the 30 and 35?
MR-Clutch
06-28-2012, 01:35 PM
Very interesting . . .
Blair for 30 would be ironic but it'd be a good deal depending on who drops. The Warriors also have 35. Tbh, 35 might have more value than 30 due to the non-guaranteed contract that's associated with it.
I do remember seeing the rookies play in the rising stars game, and remember thinking that DB and Steph Curry had great chemistry.
timvp
06-28-2012, 01:49 PM
Send a tape of this game (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712110GSW.html) to the Warriors and then trade Bonner and Blair for Dorell Wright and 30.
:drunk
So in effect if they got te 30, the theoretical trade was Dejuan Blair and Richard Jefferson for Stephen Jackson.
Still a great trade.
Minus $10M or so in salary. Excellent trade.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 01:55 PM
The spurs need to package Blair and Bonner. What's the point of having Bonner with Lorbek coming?
^this
That's why I say moving Blair is only 1/2 of the much-needed reclamation of the Spurs frontline. Bonner MUST go as well. There's simply no point in him dwelling another year on this team - Lorbek or no Lorbek.
Mugen
06-28-2012, 01:57 PM
T Park's gonna have to be a Warriors fan if they end up acquiring Bon Bon + Blair to team up with RJ.
Bruno
06-28-2012, 02:00 PM
Whatever happens, Blair is done as a Spur. If Spurs can get something good for him, it would be even better.
baseline bum
06-28-2012, 02:02 PM
I think people here are overvaluing early second rounders. I could understand early second being better than late first under the pre 2005 CBA when first round picks were four year investments, but now they're only two years with two team option years after. With a late first round pick you're looking at 2 years for about veteran's minimum. It's a pretty safe investment.
Salty
06-28-2012, 02:04 PM
If I were the Spurs, I wouldn't accept anything less than a late first-rounder for DeJuan. Just his stats alone should be enough to entice a team who's front office doesn't do its homework into a trade. DeJuan's deficiencies run pretty deep, but the other team doesn't need to know that when they see that he's capable of putting up 20+ points on certain nights.
Besides, as much of a misfit as DeJuan has been for us, I don't think his value is restricted to that of an early or mid second-rounder. Keep in mind that the majority of 2nd round picks are out of the league within 5 or 6 years while some don't even set foot in the NBA. DeJuan has already proven that he's more valuable than the pick he was drafted at (37).
wildbill2u
06-28-2012, 02:16 PM
I'd guess that Blair is worth a pick in the 30s. If they can get a first rounder for him, that'd be a major win.
After a couple of years and attempts at starting him, he's not worth more than he was as an untried rookie? That's a sad comment on a pretty good guy with hustle, but not enough talent to stick here.
Now the question is, who needs him and his limited skill set? He's a guy who may be headed for free agent release in his future.
Libri
06-28-2012, 02:51 PM
Is this a serious trade rumor? The Spurs rarely show their hand with trades and even less on draft day.
Budkin
06-28-2012, 02:51 PM
He was considered the steal of the draft when we got him and he did a damn fine job at times but it's time for him to move on.
Mel_13
06-28-2012, 02:54 PM
Is this a serious trade rumor? The Spurs rarely show their hand with trades and even less on draft day.
Tweet by Woj cited league sources, not Spurs sources. If they're shopping him, the info could have come from any team they talked to.
Maddog
06-28-2012, 02:55 PM
After a couple of years and attempts at starting him, he's not worth more than he was as an untried rookie? That's a sad comment on a pretty good guy with hustle, but not enough talent to stick here.
Now the question is, who needs him and his limited skill set? He's a guy who may be headed for free agent release in his future.
He is what he is...
A 6'6" center with potentially bad knees. If he had developed a jump shot- I think his value would be higher. Another problem is his rebounds/36 minutes has declined each year.
Drom John
06-28-2012, 03:04 PM
I'm reading this as the Spurs dangling Blair and asking for offers. Therefore, the leak is from the other teams. I would not expect any trade for a draft pick until a team was on the clock and the Spurs like what was available. That's one way to get more Spurs fans to watch the first round.
I read last year as the Pacers approaching the Spurs for Hill, a two team negotiation, no leaks.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 03:12 PM
For what it's worth, I wish the Spurs didn't have to dangle Blair as trade bait. If there were better talent around him, he could be a servicable 5th big. However, the frontline is overdue for an upgrade. If Blair brings forth a pick that can be used toward that end, so be it.
Blair will be traded tonight alongside either Neal or Bonner.
Duncan2177
06-28-2012, 03:33 PM
Is it possible?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6npw7zf
pad300
06-28-2012, 03:34 PM
DraftExpress To follow up on @WojYahooNBA 's report that the Spurs are shopping DeJuan Blair, one team that really likes him I'm told is Golden State.
Draft Express on Twitter.
Blair for the 30?
Blair and a 2013 1st for the 7 ?!?
Salty
06-28-2012, 03:37 PM
ESPN Rumor Central is reporting the same thing as ^^^ Warriors may bite.
If the Spurs get #30, I really think they're gonna go for Bernard James tbh.
TD 21
06-28-2012, 03:42 PM
As much as people would make fun of the Warriors for trading 30 back to the Spurs for Blair, the reality is, they'd be more than hard pressed to find a player as productive as Blair at 30. The Spurs should hold out for 30 and refuse to take 35 and 52 instead, unless some unsuspecting player falls to 35.
pad300
06-28-2012, 03:45 PM
ESPN Rumor Central is reporting the same thing as ^^^ Warriors may bite.
If the Spurs get #30, I really think they're gonna go for Bernard James tbh.
The 30 is WAY to high for Bernard James. The 59 maybe, but not the 30...
angelbelow
06-28-2012, 03:46 PM
I hope this public outing doesn't hurt his value. Hopefully teams interested are motivated by this to put something together. Probably wishful thinking though.
T Park
06-28-2012, 03:47 PM
T Park's gonna have to be a Warriors fan if they end up acquiring Bon Bon + Blair to team up with RJ.
Why?
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 03:49 PM
The 30 is WAY to high for Bernard James. The 59 maybe, but not the 30...
If they want James, they'd better take him with that propsective #30 pick. It widely believe that the Cavs are very high on him and they have two picks in the early second round. That said, there's no way James would last until #59.
Salty
06-28-2012, 03:53 PM
The 30 is WAY to high for Bernard James. The 59 maybe, but not the 30...
James' stock has risen alot over the past couple of weeks. He may be 27, but he hasn't even been playing ball for a decade, so he doesn't have all that wear and tear. Besides, Cleveland has already shown interest in taking him at 33 or 34.
Still, I could definitely be wrong, it's almost impossible to tell who will pan out once you get into the latter stages of the draft. Regardless of who they draft, I think pick #30 is worth the value that Blair holds.
temujin
06-28-2012, 04:05 PM
Coonfirmed here.
Spurs very actively shopping Blair.
Rumors they are aiming at the Greek guy of Olimpiakos.
timvp
06-28-2012, 04:12 PM
Coonfirmed here.
Spurs very actively shopping Blair.
Rumors they are aiming at the Greek guy of Olimpiakos.
Any links?
angelbelow
06-28-2012, 04:13 PM
They should include Bonner and Neal
Well Bonner has been heavily scouted as a playoff choker. Surely this news has reached even the most incompetent GMs. He has no value.
Which is a shame, if Bonner had a neutral reputation, we may have been able to swing him for a late first round to a team looking to bolster their roster.
gambit1990
06-28-2012, 04:13 PM
Coonfirmed here.
Spurs very actively shopping Blair.
Rumors they are aiming at the Greek guy of Olimpiakos.
kostas papanikolaou?
TD 21
06-28-2012, 04:15 PM
Coonfirmed here.
Spurs very actively shopping Blair.
Rumors they are aiming at the Greek guy of Olimpiakos.
This is probably true, as their supposed intent is to create roster space (which leads me to believe they think they've got a real chance at re-signing Diaw and signing Lorbek . . . which would give them the most non athletic group of bigs in the league).
But if (and it's a big if), Sullinger or P. Jones fall to 30, they'd be insane to pass either up. Both have been red flagged though, so there's an outside chance one falls to 30. Although at that point, the Warriors may well just keep the pick and select whichever falls.
kostas papanikolaou?
Likely.
temujin
06-28-2012, 04:19 PM
Any links?
No link.
A friend, agent of players.
pad300
06-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Coonfirmed here.
Spurs very actively shopping Blair.
Rumors they are aiming at the Greek guy of Olimpiakos.
Maybe they are looking to get the 35 from GSW?
Duncan2177
06-28-2012, 04:21 PM
Why do the spurs need another sf like kostas papanikolaou when they have Leonard and Jackson? The spurs need to focus on drafting a bigman.
temujin
06-28-2012, 04:25 PM
kostas papanikolaou?
That guy.
There were rumors about Mccalebb, but apparently they won't need to trade to get him if they aim at him.
temujin
06-28-2012, 04:26 PM
Maybe they are looking to get the 35 from GSW?
I have no news about which team is in talks.
If the news spread here it really means they are very aggressive about it.
temujin
06-28-2012, 04:29 PM
Why do the spurs need another sf like kostas papanikolaou when they have Leonard and Jackson? The spurs need to focus on drafting a bigman.
That guy is good.
The only question I have is that he played for Dusan Ivkovic, one of the best in the business, so he will look way better that he might be.
objective
06-28-2012, 04:33 PM
Too bad Blair ruined his value and hasn't filled out his potential with his fat gains.
Once he got too fat to even dunk, he was too fat to pursue rebounds like before, and was too slow to try to rectify his defensive mistakes.
Spurs wasted time with him playing while at the same time killing Splitter's value and wasting the cheap years of his contract and keeping him either at DNP-CDs or in bench minutes.
benefactor
06-28-2012, 04:33 PM
lol James at 30.
"Look at det shot blocker! Peecup det fone!"
Ditty
06-28-2012, 04:53 PM
I'll shoot myself if we get this 27 year old guy, or a Greek faggot in the first round. I rather it be a first rounder for the future, or draft that Furkan Aldmier. I still dont see the Spurs adding too much salary as I hope they will think big of reloading in free agency next summer with Manu's contract off the books.
Salty
06-28-2012, 05:01 PM
I'll shoot myself if we get this 27 year old guy, or a Greek faggot in the first round.
A little drastic, are we?
ChumpDumper
06-28-2012, 05:15 PM
No Greeks.
Dr. John R. Brinkley
06-28-2012, 05:19 PM
For the Spurs at this point, I don't think Bernard's age is a negative. If anything, it's a positive because he's probably more mature, willing to be coached, less likely to tweet while on the way to Whataburger etc. Now whether or not he can actually contribute is a different issue, but at #30 most players don't pan out. If the Spurs drafted this guy and he didn't pan out, I doubt it would be because he didn't put in the effort or got caught up in dumb youthful mistakes. His real problem is most likely having a neolithic post game.
Spurtacus
06-28-2012, 05:23 PM
Blair + Neal for Warriors 7th pick would be heaven.
baseline bum
06-28-2012, 05:30 PM
I'll shoot myself if we get this 27 year old guy, or a Greek faggot in the first round. I rather it be a first rounder for the future, or draft that Furkan Aldmier. I still dont see the Spurs adding too much salary as I hope they will think big of reloading in free agency next summer with Manu's contract off the books.
The Spurs will never sign stars. If their strategy revolves around capspace they're going to end up like Detroit throwing huge money at crap like Gordon and Villenueva.
Richie
06-28-2012, 05:32 PM
Blair + Neal for Warriors 7th pick would be heaven.
No way GS do that, we would be robbing them blind for the second time this season.
pad300
06-28-2012, 05:36 PM
/Begin Speculation
Some sort of 3 way with Rockets maybe?
7th to HOU
12th & Blair to GSW
18th to SAS
/End Speculation
Salty
06-28-2012, 05:45 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Greek forward Kostas Papanikolaou gains momentum, a puncher's chance to go to Oklahoma City at 28 or early second round, sources tell Y!
hmm...
I still think that if the Spurs acquire the Warriors 30th or 35th pick, they may use it on Kim English. He fits the organizational philosphy to a T, both skillwise and mentally.
To be honest, I'm a little surprised I'm the only one who's posted this so far. That he'd be a great fit for the Spurs seems like an absolute given to me.
Seventyniner
06-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Is it possible?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6npw7zf
Congratulations. You managed to make both teams worse.
Seventyniner
06-28-2012, 06:04 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Greek forward Kostas Papanikolaou gains momentum, a puncher's chance to go to Oklahoma City at 28 or early second round, sources tell Y!
hmm...
I'm pretty leery of guys who start moving up quickly just before the draft. It's almost like a bidding war, and the winner ends up overpaying.
My memory isn't great, though. With players who dramatically rise in the waning moments before the draft, how do they tend to do in the league? I guess I'd want to know how it works for guys who plummet as well.
Brazil
06-28-2012, 06:06 PM
No Greeks.
racist
Spurs da champs
06-28-2012, 06:13 PM
No way GS do that, we would be robbing them blind for the second time this season.
lol Tbh looking back at it Spurs got robbed of a 1st round pick in a deep ass draft.
Nathan89
06-28-2012, 06:19 PM
lol Tbh looking back at it Spurs got robbed of a 1st round pick in a deep ass draft.
You're the only one that believes this.
Early I heard Steve Kerr talking about teams will to give up roughly 3mil for a pick at the end of the first round. They were talking about the decision from different perspectives like the teams owner, gm, coach,... They basically offered us 12mil for the last pick in the first round.
I'll shoot myself if we get this 27 year old guy, or a Greek faggot in the first round. I rather it be a first rounder for the future, or draft that Furkan Aldmier. I still dont see the Spurs adding too much salary as I hope they will think big of reloading in free agency next summer with Manu's contract off the books.
Do us all a favor and just pull the trigger now. One less worthless post we will all have to read.
Come on. Do something RC. I'm growing increasingly impatient. Fuck.
Spurtacus
06-28-2012, 08:46 PM
Come on. Do something RC. I'm growing increasingly impatient. Fuck.
Uriel
06-28-2012, 09:06 PM
Come on. Do something RC. I'm growing increasingly impatient. Fuck.
Uriel
06-28-2012, 09:15 PM
Have people forgotten Blair has no ACL's? Why would teams that didn't want him then suddenly want him now?
Uriel
06-28-2012, 09:19 PM
@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=JMcDonald_SAEN) Wouldn't be tbe first time Spurs floated Blair in trade talks. Hasn't generated a ton of interest to date.
Yeah, I don't think anything is going to happen. Just gotta live with continuing to have Blair and Bonner a part of this team.
Fuck.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 09:25 PM
It sure doesn't look like it. Damn.
stxspurs
06-28-2012, 09:44 PM
we can still amnesty bonner...there is hope
Uriel
06-28-2012, 09:44 PM
Boring draft is boring.
And to think I was so excited for this.
AFBlue
06-28-2012, 09:45 PM
Tyshawn Taylor would be my target if I was the Spurs. Strong defender, good scorer. Not a pure PG, but could fit the Spurs well.
Redshadows
06-28-2012, 09:49 PM
still nothing happens
weebo
06-28-2012, 09:54 PM
did you all actually think anyone in the NBA wanted any of the Spurs scrubs???
Blair is a "big" who isn't big.
Neal is only good for one thing.
Bonner is Bonner.
Darkwaters
06-28-2012, 10:11 PM
Actually, I think both Blair and Neal are very tradable. I just think most people are setting their sights way too high. People talking about packaging those two for a lottery pick are seriously over-valuing their personnel. Blair is probably worth a pair of seconds (one now and one future).
Sean Cagney
06-28-2012, 10:12 PM
did you all actually think anyone in the NBA wanted any of the Spurs scrubs???
Blair is a "big" who isn't big.
Neal is only good for one thing.
Bonner is Bonner.
LOL, sad but true. Who the hell would trade for any of those?
Poolboy5623
06-28-2012, 10:16 PM
I expected nothing to happen for the Spurs in this draft, so I wasn't let down at all...I was very surprised to see the amount of people on here pumped for the NBA draft..this shit is boring.
Redshadows
06-28-2012, 11:02 PM
no one wants him
Hooks
06-28-2012, 11:10 PM
Spurs can still trade him during the off season and flip him for a 2013 1st round pick, that makes more sense IMO especially since just TP and Kawhi will be under contract and maybe TD.
Trading him frees up space for another euro big like Lorbek if they manage to keep him and Diaw or Bertans.
timtonymanu
06-28-2012, 11:11 PM
Meh, I can tolerate Blair as long as Bonner's gone. Bonner's the one that really has to go.
SenorSpur
06-28-2012, 11:13 PM
Meh, I can tolerate Blair as long as Bonner's gone. Bonner's the one that really has to go.
^ This
Someone finally said it. :tu
Duncan2177
06-28-2012, 11:13 PM
Spurs can still trade him during the off season and flip him for a 2013 1st round pick, that makes more sense IMO especially since just TP and Kawhi will be under contract and maybe TD.
Trading him frees up space for another euro big like Lorbek if they manage to keep him and Diaw or Bertans.
Yea trade Blair for a future draft pick and use the amnesty on Bonner.
dbestpro
06-29-2012, 09:35 PM
Blair should take the trade talk and lack of a suiter as motivation. If he does not start giving his game the effort that is needed he will be out of the league within 2 years.
If you ask me keeping Blair isn't a bad idea.
It's Bonner who needs to go, preferably by trade.
T Park
06-29-2012, 10:02 PM
^ This
Someone finally said it. :tu
?
:lol
Everyone's said that a billion times...
gambit1990
06-29-2012, 10:02 PM
Meh, I can tolerate Blair as long as Bonner's gone. Bonner's the one that really has to go.
If you ask me keeping Blair isn't a bad idea.
It's Bonner who needs to go, preferably by trade.
how about splitter and bonner for tyrus thomas? salaries almost match. thomas does have one more year on his contract, for $9 million iirc though.
hasn't dunlap said they need shooters? that's why they got ben gordon. bonner can help spread the floor for them.
how about splitter and bonner for tyrus thomas? salaries almost match. thomas does have one more year on his contract, for $9 million iirc though.
hasn't dunlap said they need shooters? that's why they got ben gordon. bonner can help spread the floor for them.
Trading a top 10 center for a guy who was horrid in Charlotte? No thanks, I want a better team.
Manufan909
06-29-2012, 10:50 PM
Trading a top 10 center for a guy who was horrid in Charlotte? No thanks, I want a better team.
He didn't say Duncan and Bonner, wtf are you smoking?
Duncan2177
06-29-2012, 10:51 PM
Thomas might be bought out then we can get him.
Wild Cobra Kai
06-29-2012, 11:48 PM
Thomas might be bought out then we can get him.
Bought out? Not likely. Amnestied? Somewhat more likely. Don't really care. TT is a tall guy who can jump high, but doesn't really know how to play basketball.
Duncan2177
06-30-2012, 12:20 AM
Bought out? Not likely. Amnestied? Somewhat more likely. Don't really care. TT is a tall guy who can jump high, but doesn't really know how to play basketball.
Maybe playing with a team like the spurs will help him.
SenorSpur
06-30-2012, 01:10 AM
?
:lol
Everyone's said that a billion times...
Then give it an amen and make it one billion and one.:lol
Wild Cobra Kai
06-30-2012, 07:06 AM
Maybe playing with a team like the spurs will help him.
He's 26, and entered the league young. At this point, he pretty much is what he is, which is Marcus Fizer, re-incarnated. As a side note, what is it with the Bulls drafting these jumping jack dumb asses with high picks?
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