You gotta be kidding me

[monosylab1k]

So we left a guy like PJ3 on the table for a volume shooter, a TOSB, and an undersized forward that "works hard"?

Because it's Dallas.

[mavs>spurs]

shoulda just kept the original pick instead of trading it for 3 shitheads

[Edward]

At least they didn't have as bad a draft as the S:lolns

[TE]

:lol

[Nathan89]

At least your team got to draft.

[Huey Freeman]

At least your team got to draft.

Did They? :lol

[romsey31]

Alteast your team didnt draft plumlee...

[Latarian Milton]

thought dallas had lost it to acquire LO a year ealier, everything they got last night was like a bonus tbh :lol

[Clipper Nation]

At least the guys you drafted will actually play in the NBA tbh...

[Findog]

2011 - traded away Jordan Hamilton's rights, could have taken Isiah Thomas
2010 - traded for Dominique Jones's rights, could have had Landry Fields
2009 - traded for Roddy's rights, nobody else taken after him panned out any better, unless you want to make an argument for Chase Budinger
2008 - took Shan Foster late in the second round. Could have bought a 1st round pick and taken Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Luc Mbah a Moute or Goran Dragic
2007 - took Nick Fazekas when Marc Gasol was still on the board
2006 - took Maurice Ager when Paul Millsap was still on the board
2005 - didn't have a 1st round pick. Had they bought one, could have drafted David Lee, Brandon Bass, CJ Miles, Ersan İlyasova, Monta Ellis or Marcin Gortat
2004 - traded for Devin Harris' rights, traded for Pavel Podkolzin's rights at 21, could have taken Tony Allen, Kevin Martin Delonte West or Anderson Varajeo at 21.
2003 - took Josh Howard late in the first round. His career turned out far better than anyone taken after him. Probably the last good draft the Mavs had.
2002 - Didn't have a first-round pick. Had they bought one, they could have taken Carlos Boozer or Luis Scola.
2001 - took Kyle Hill and Kenny Saterfield in the second round. Didn't have a 1st. Had they bought one, they could have taken Gilbert Arenas or Mehmet Okur.
2000 - traded for Eduardo Najera's rights. Had they kept their first-round pick, they could have taken Michael Redd.
1999 - traded for Leon Smith's rights and took Gordan Giricek in the second round. Could have taken Manu Ginobili.

So one good draft in 12 years.

[racm]

2011 - traded away Jordan Hamilton's rights, could have taken Isiah Thomas
2010 - traded for Dominique Jones's rights, could have had Landry Fields
2009 - traded for Roddy's rights, nobody else taken after him panned out any better, unless you want to make an argument for Chase Budinger
2008 - took Shan Foster late in the second round. Could have bought a 1st round pick and taken Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Luc Mbah a Moute or Goran Dragic
2007 - took Nick Fazekas when Marc Gasol was still on the board
2006 - took Maurice Ager when Paul Millsap was still on the board
2005 - didn't have a 1st round pick. Had they bought one, could have drafted David Lee, Brandon Bass, CJ Miles, Ersan İlyasova, Monta Ellis or Marcin Gortat
2004 - traded for Devin Harris' rights, traded for Pavel Podkolzin's rights at 21, could have taken Tony Allen, Kevin Martin Delonte West or Anderson Varajeo at 21.
2003 - took Josh Howard late in the first round. His career turned out far better than anyone taken after him. Probably the last good draft the Mavs had.
2002 - Didn't have a first-round pick. Had they bought one, they could have taken Carlos Boozer or Luis Scola.
2001 - took Kyle Hill and Kenny Saterfield in the second round. Didn't have a 1st. Had they bought one, they could have taken Gilbert Arenas or Mehmet Okur.
2000 - traded for Eduardo Najera's rights. Had they kept their first-round pick, they could have taken Michael Redd.
1999 - traded for Leon Smith's rights and took Gordan Giricek in the second round. Could have taken Manu Ginobili.

So one good draft in 12 years.

Even the Lakers had better drafts. See Bynum, Andrew.

[baseline bum]

2011 - traded away Jordan Hamilton's rights, could have taken Isiah Thomas
2010 - traded for Dominique Jones's rights, could have had Landry Fields
2009 - traded for Roddy's rights, nobody else taken after him panned out any better, unless you want to make an argument for Chase Budinger
2008 - took Shan Foster late in the second round. Could have bought a 1st round pick and taken Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Luc Mbah a Moute or Goran Dragic
2007 - took Nick Fazekas when Marc Gasol was still on the board
2006 - took Maurice Ager when Paul Millsap was still on the board
2005 - didn't have a 1st round pick. Had they bought one, could have drafted David Lee, Brandon Bass, CJ Miles, Ersan İlyasova, Monta Ellis or Marcin Gortat
2004 - traded for Devin Harris' rights, traded for Pavel Podkolzin's rights at 21, could have taken Tony Allen, Kevin Martin Delonte West or Anderson Varajeo at 21.
2003 - took Josh Howard late in the first round. His career turned out far better than anyone taken after him. Probably the last good draft the Mavs had.
2002 - Didn't have a first-round pick. Had they bought one, they could have taken Carlos Boozer or Luis Scola.
2001 - took Kyle Hill and Kenny Saterfield in the second round. Didn't have a 1st. Had they bought one, they could have taken Gilbert Arenas or Mehmet Okur.
2000 - traded for Eduardo Najera's rights. Had they kept their first-round pick, they could have taken Michael Redd.
1999 - traded for Leon Smith's rights and took Gordan Giricek in the second round. Could have taken Manu Ginobili.

So one good draft in 12 years.

All the could'ves are kind of ridiculous tbh. Ginobili was just dumb luck, and who saw Thomas as being any good? Also, Giricek was a Spurs pick that was part of the Leon Smith deal.

[baseline bum]

Also, all those misses are trumped by
1998 - took Tractor Traylor and then traded him for Dirk Nowitzki

[CavsSuperFan]

At least your draft picks won’t run off to free agency & do a TV special announcing their decision to leave your boring city for Miami….

[HeatChamps]

At least your draft picks won’t run off to free agency & do a TV special announcing their decision to leave your boring city for Miami….
Can you blame him? It's Cleveland. :lol

[baseline bum]

Can you blame him? Danny Ferry wrecked that roster. And it's Cleveland :lol

fify

[Bill_Brasky]

At least your draft picks won’t run off to free agency & do a TV special announcing their decision to leave your boring city for Miami….

:cry

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

2011 - traded away Jordan Hamilton's rights, could have taken Isiah Thomas
2010 - traded for Dominique Jones's rights, could have had Landry Fields
2009 - traded for Roddy's rights, nobody else taken after him panned out any better, unless you want to make an argument for Chase Budinger
2008 - took Shan Foster late in the second round. Could have bought a 1st round pick and taken Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Luc Mbah a Moute or Goran Dragic
2007 - took Nick Fazekas when Marc Gasol was still on the board
2006 - took Maurice Ager when Paul Millsap was still on the board
2005 - didn't have a 1st round pick. Had they bought one, could have drafted David Lee, Brandon Bass, CJ Miles, Ersan İlyasova, Monta Ellis or Marcin Gortat
2004 - traded for Devin Harris' rights, traded for Pavel Podkolzin's rights at 21, could have taken Tony Allen, Kevin Martin Delonte West or Anderson Varajeo at 21.
2003 - took Josh Howard late in the first round. His career turned out far better than anyone taken after him. Probably the last good draft the Mavs had.
2002 - Didn't have a first-round pick. Had they bought one, they could have taken Carlos Boozer or Luis Scola.
2001 - took Kyle Hill and Kenny Saterfield in the second round. Didn't have a 1st. Had they bought one, they could have taken Gilbert Arenas or Mehmet Okur.
2000 - traded for Eduardo Najera's rights. Had they kept their first-round pick, they could have taken Michael Redd.
1999 - traded for Leon Smith's rights and took Gordan Giricek in the second round. Could have taken Manu Ginobili.

So one good draft in 12 years.
You're kinds blowing things out of proportion by acting as if Dallas should have drafted the 1-2 2nd round picks that make noise every year (i.e. Marc Gasol, Paul Millsap, Boozer, Arenas, etc.).

[Findog]

You're kinds blowing things out of proportion by acting as if Dallas should have drafted the 1-2 2nd round picks that make noise every year (i.e. Marc Gasol, Paul Millsap, Boozer, Arenas, etc.).

I know that every year there's 1 or 2 guys from the second round that end up having productive careers and the rest don't do shit. And that if you go back and look at past drafts, you might rearrange the order of the top 15 picks, but the top 15 guys picked generally end up having the best careers.

I just think that you can still find productive players at the end of the first round and that year after year of coming up empty eventually catches up to you. If they had hit on even a 1/3 of their picks, they'd be in much better shape.

[m>s]

what annoys me most is their retarded habit of letting them productive players walk, mean even if they actually got them golds from the 2nd round, they'd still show them the door when their contracts expire and they demand big $. they got shrewd signings from FA market every year but would always end up letting them leave by refusing to re-sign them with the $ they deserved

[Pelicans78]

PJ3 is not gonna be a good player. He's trying to convince teams he will be a small forward yet doesn't shoot well from the perimeter and not that great of a ball-handler. He has no inside game whatsoever and is a liability defensively. The upside part is overblown.

[djohn2oo8]

PJ3 is not gonna be a good player. He's trying to convince teams he will be a small forward yet doesn't shoot well from the perimeter and not that great of a ball-handler. He has no inside game whatsoever and is a liability defensively. The upside part is overblown.
Maybe if he got drafted by any other team, but since it's the Thunder, with their luck he'll turn out to be a star.

[racm]

Sam Presti effect tbh

"OMG OKC drafted that guy he's gonna be a rotation player at worst!" Does Reggie Jackson even see the light of day?

[mavs>spurs]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-06-29/nba-draft-2012-grades-results-picks-recap-list-analysis-bobcats-kings-cavs?icid=maing-grid7%7Caim%7Cdl8%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D174750


Dallas

Picks: (24) Jared Cunningham, SG; (33) Bernard James, C; (34) Jae Crowder, F

Grade: P

Outlook: Dallas’ picks were too outlandish to warrant a normal letter. Cunningham is 6-5 and will do hard time in the D-League being re-educated as a point guard. James is a 27-year-old Iraq war veteran (and Mark Cuban has a soft spot for veterans). Crowder is a power forward who measured 6-6.5 with a 6-9.25 wingspan, which means he is not a power forward.

[elemento]

Jae Crowder will be a solid player in the NBA for a long time son. No reason to be disappointed at all.

Among the 3 players Dallas drafted, he will be the best of the bunch

Wait and see

[pass1st]

:loldrafting a 27 year old

[Calispursfan11]

So we left a guy like PJ3 on the table for a volume shooter, a TOSB, and an undersized forward that "works hard"?

Because it's Dallas.

Can you tell me, what is the meaning of the pickle? Thanks in advance.

[DMC]

Can you tell me, what is the meaning of the pickle? Thanks in advance.
You'd have to smell his breath I think.

[Kidd K]

2011 - traded away Jordan Hamilton's rights, could have taken Isiah Thomas
2010 - traded for Dominique Jones's rights, could have had Landry Fields
2009 - traded for Roddy's rights, nobody else taken after him panned out any better, unless you want to make an argument for Chase Budinger
2008 - took Shan Foster late in the second round. Could have bought a 1st round pick and taken Mario Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Luc Mbah a Moute or Goran Dragic
2007 - took Nick Fazekas when Marc Gasol was still on the board
2006 - took Maurice Ager when Paul Millsap was still on the board
2005 - didn't have a 1st round pick. Had they bought one, could have drafted David Lee, Brandon Bass, CJ Miles, Ersan İlyasova, Monta Ellis or Marcin Gortat
2004 - traded for Devin Harris' rights, traded for Pavel Podkolzin's rights at 21, could have taken Tony Allen, Kevin Martin Delonte West or Anderson Varajeo at 21.
2003 - took Josh Howard late in the first round. His career turned out far better than anyone taken after him. Probably the last good draft the Mavs had.
2002 - Didn't have a first-round pick. Had they bought one, they could have taken Carlos Boozer or Luis Scola.
2001 - took Kyle Hill and Kenny Saterfield in the second round. Didn't have a 1st. Had they bought one, they could have taken Gilbert Arenas or Mehmet Okur.
2000 - traded for Eduardo Najera's rights. Had they kept their first-round pick, they could have taken Michael Redd.
1999 - traded for Leon Smith's rights and took Gordan Giricek in the second round. Could have taken Manu Ginobili.

So one good draft in 12 years.

Can't be upset they didn't "trade up" in the draft. So you can safely remove all of those from your "they sucked this year" list. 5 of those gone.

You're also really reaching with them "not taking Ginobili' or Isiash Thomas, and other people nobody else in the NBA was taking either. Ginobili was the 57th pick, Thomas was the 60th. Remove 2 more.

So 7 of the last 13 you can't really bitch about. They didn't do anything, but they didn't fuck it up either.

Getting Howard and Roddy were good years. Dirk the year right before your list starts was also an extremely good year.

So really, you're complaining about 4 years of the last 13, and half of those would've been huge gambles that happened to pay off.


Even worse, Dallas makes their noise through free agency, not the draft. . .just like most other "rich teams". Or does getting Jason Terry, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, Tyson Chandler, and all these other great players not count for shit?

[erikuff]

As we've seen through the years, Dallas is a team that relies on spending big money.

[mavs>spurs]

i don't understand why they didn't just keep the guy they had at 17, he would honestly probably be the best C on the roster at this point, since mahinmi sucks so hard

[TheCultOfPersonality]

At least the Mavericks don't screw up in the lottery like the Grizzlies do.

[Shank]

Hey guys!

[Latarian Milton]

dallas ain't the right team for them young nigs imho, roddy was a superb young talent but was still left on bench & let to rot. dallas only in the draft this year cuz they aren't allowed to trade away two/more 1st rounders of consective years, they lost 11' draft pick so they're in here this year when they have no clue at all who's the right guy to pick