Kidd changes mind, heads to Knicks

[DJ Mbenga]

Marc stein reports

[benefactor]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Mavs were confident they'd close three-year, $9M deal with Kidd but after all-day deliberations w/both teams Kidd has committed to Knicks

Mavs are better off.

[TheRealCB]

We taaaaaaaaaaaaaank :elephant

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Mavs staaaaaaaaaacked

[Lincoln]

Lol wtf? Good news but still, this offseason has sucked ass. Who all do we have on roster? Dirk, DJ, Marion, Haywood, Roddy...

[venky]

:lol Mavs
:lol Cuban
:lol letting Chandler walk
:lol swinging for Deron and Dwight
:lol trying to get Nash
:lol Lakers stealing Nash
:lol trying to sign Kidd as your plan z
:lol Kidd leaving

[lefty]

Mavs :lol

[mavs>spurs]

yeah this is actually really good news. who the fuck wanted kidd for 3 years?

[LkrFan]

Mavs :lol

:lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Kidds taint can play better ball than any other available point guards

[timvp]

Mavs got lucky.

[TheRealCB]

We don't we at least TRY to get Hibbert? Then resign Delonte and use the 8.9 mil exception we have on a decent wing.Is it such a complex plan that Cuban can't do it?

[Lincoln]

Apparently they going for Mayo and Kaman :lmao

[tesseractive]

Is there even a point guard on the Mavs roster at this point? :lol

[mavs>spurs]

i woudn't mind going for mayo and hibbert imho

[mavs>spurs]

and even aaron brooks even though he sucks if we can get him cheap, since there are pretty much no other options

[DPG21920]

Hibbert wouldn't be bad, but blowing up your title hopes for him? Plus, he's already received a max offer from POR (even if he hasn't signed the offer sheet yet). Dallas can't offer him more money.

Mavs should just be patient, but the pressure is obviously mounting.

[DPG21920]

and even aaron brooks even though he sucks if we can get him cheap, since there are pretty much no other options

Randy Foye is an option.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Mavs
:lol Randy Foye as your franchise player

[TheRealCB]

Hibbert wouldn't be bad, but blowing up your title hopes for him? Plus, he's already received a max offer from POR (even if he hasn't signed the offer sheet yet). Dallas can't offer him more money.

Mavs should just be patient, but the pressure is obviously mounting.

I'd like to see you stay patient if Parker was let go for nothing after 2007.

[Findog]

And they're gonna keep Lin.

D-Will, Dragic, Nash, Lin, Kidd, Lowry all gone.

Who is our starting PG next year? Sessions?

[DazedAndConfused]

epic fail for dallas

[Lincoln]

Findog we should try out for them mavs tbh, no on left

[ploto]

Knicks think he can mentor Jeremy Lin. Does that mean Lin is staying a Knick?

[Findog]

Mavs might as well tank next season and try to roll the dice on one more year with Dirk in 2013-14.

[TheMACHINE]

we unstaaaaacccckkkkeddddd

[TDMVPDPOY]

why not sign some big name euros for the short term?

most of the vets now are either playin for money or cockriding to a ring, kidd already has one of those and loss half in his private life, makes sense to go chase the money...how much is the knicks payin him?

[HarlemHeat37]

It has been beaten to death, but opting to pass on Chandler has turned out to be one of the worst moves in recent history, tbh..

Even with Lebron growing balls, Dallas still has a solid chance at repeating, with Tyson..

[Josepatches_]

Sessions>Kidd tbh

[Findog]

It has been beaten to death, but opting to pass on Chandler has turned out to be one of the worst moves in recent history, tbh..

Even with Lebron growing balls, Dallas still has a solid chance at repeating, with Tyson..

I don't think the Mavs repeat with Chandler last year, but it was still a huge mistake to let him go.

[mavs>spurs]

Randy Foye is an option.

randy foye isn't a point guard he's a 2 and on top of that he really really SUCKS

[HarlemHeat37]

Dallas made good additions in Delonte West and Vince, they both had good seasons..

Their 5 position saw a significant downgrade, particularly offensively..Chandler can't create his own offense, but he's one of the best finishing role players in the NBA..Haywood is one of the worst offensive Cs I've ever seen, and their other Cs are too soft and frail..

Dirk regressed this year, but I believe part of that is losing confidence in his team during the off-season, mostly due to the loss of Chandler..

Miami and OKC both still struggle against the zone, and last year's Mavs had one of the most effective zones in recent history..

[DPG21920]

randy foye isn't a point guard he's a 2 and on top of that he really really SUCKS

Well tell that to the Mavs who are looking at him.

[Findog]

At this point I say we go after that Uncle Drew guy from the Pepsi commercials.

[Clipper Nation]

randy foye isn't a point guard he's a 2 and on top of that he really really SUCKS

Enjoy the Randy Foye era.... I know I'll enjoy that talentless chucker being off our team tbh.....

[DPG21920]

Also, Foye came into the league as a PG. Played the position his first couple of years.

[mavs>spurs]

Well tell that to the Mavs who are looking at him.

the mavs FO being idiots doesn't make it any less stupid

[DPG21920]

It's amazing how these dummies lucked into Tyson Chandler then kept him on accident and it got them a title. So undeserved.

[Findog]

Posted in another thread, but it bears repeating:

Is Donnie Nelson a good GM?

Name one value pick he's made besides Josh Howard.

What premier FAs has he lured to Dallas? Maybe Shawn Marion, and even then they had to give him a 5-year deal that nobody else would.

His one great trade (Tyson Chandler) was an accident because they struck out on other targets and they wanted to kick the can down the road by getting an expiring contract for Damp's expired deal.

Of the three teams that dominated the 00's (Lakers, Spurs, Mavs), only the Mavs didn't win multiple titles precisely because they consistently failed to surround Dirk with the proper supporting cast.

[benefactor]

Randy Foye is an option.
Sure is.

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Mavs have Aaron Brooks, Randy Foye on list of potential PGs, per source. Expect they'll look at Sessions, too. ESPN first w/Kidd to NY.

[lurker]

I'm waiting for the Donnie troll to post about how everything is going according to plan.

[djohn2oo8]

sam amick (http://sulia.com/source/s-245111)

i reached out to mavs owner mark cuban today to get his lay of this decimated mavs land after he missed out on deron williams and steve nash. Jason kidd hadn't flown the coup just yet. Cuban, who created all this salary cap space by letting tyson chandler, jj barea and deshawn stevenson walk as free agents in the wake of his team's 2011 title last summer, said briefly, "it's better to miss out on the right player than to sign the wrong player."

[Lincoln]

Devin Harris was a value pick but he was the number 5 pick we got in the Jamison trade IIRC. Outside of that lottery pick, none of the late first rounders panned out except Jho at 28

[timvp]

With Chandler, the Mavs very well could have beaten the Heat. For as good as LeBron was in the Finals, he shot like 16% outside of the paint against the Thunder. With Chandler in the middle and the Mavs playing zone, Dallas wouldn't have let LeBron have so much success at the rim. Add in Marion's athleticism on him out on the perimeter, Wade and Bosh less then 100%, and Dirk rounding into form by that time and the Mavs probably coast to a repeat.

Oops.

[timvp]

Brooks is a 5-foot-9 shooting guard. Foye is a 6-foot-1 small forward. Not exactly point guard options, tbh.

[Findog]

"it's better to miss out on the right player than to sign the wrong player."

As bad as things are, he's right to not make a big problem worse by signing the wrong guys. See Detroit Pistons: 2009 - Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva.

[Budkin]

Time for Mavs to rebuild.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's too bad Dirk is so classy, tbh..a guy like Kobe would have roasted Cuban for these moves..

[HarlemHeat37]

As bad as things are, he's right to not make a big problem worse by signing the wrong guys. See Detroit Pistons: 2009 - Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva.

Fully agree, but signing the 2nd best player on your title team, in a weak league, should have been a no-brainer..

[Findog]

Fully agree, but signing the 2nd best player on your title team, in a weak league, should have been a no-brainer..

Yep - Chandler was only 28. A huge mistake. Since the S'n'T loophole was closed and D-Will couldn't get anything close to what the Nets were offering in Dallas, why did they put so much emphasis on luring max players away from their original teams? Under the old CBA, there's no doubt in my mind D-Will would've been a Mav. But since Brooklyn could offer him $25 million more and an extra year, getting him was a pipe dream from the beginning.

[DPG21920]

And after repeating (something the Spurs never did), he could have salary dumped Tyson, renounced the Trade Exception and had the same cap space he wanted to miss out on all of these guys.

[m>s]

I'm waiting for the Donnie troll to post about how everything is going according to plan.

getting younger should be the priority for this team imho, even if it isn't DH or Deron, they still have to add some younger guys to invigorate their aging squad. mavs are starting to rebuild gradually, they ain't fucking things up and tanking, playing like shit intentionally for higher picks, instead they're getting young by signing established stars from the FA market so they can stay competitive during the process of rebuilding

our FO niggas are geniuses, quit hatin' em tbh

[crc21209]

Damn.

First Williams, then Nash, and now Kidd? Striiiiiiiiike 3, you're OUT!

:lol But seriously, letting Chandler, Stevenson, and Barea goes were pretty huge mistakes. They should've just rolled the dice with the same team...

[Findog]

I'm guessing they'll do like last year, get a bunch of stop-gap vets on one year deals and try to do the same thing next summer for that FA class. Problem is, if a guy is worth the max, then his original team is going to offer that, and unlike the old CBA, you can't get the same money by forcing a S'n'T. CP3 and D12 aren't going to leave that much money on the table, just as D-Will didn't.

[DPG21920]

Yup ^ and they don't have enough room to offer two max deals (even the reduced version) so that's extra extra money on the table.

[Findog]

Yup ^ and they don't have enough room to offer two max deals (even the reduced version) so that's extra extra money on the table.

so Dirk's last two seasons in Dallas will resemble Nash's last two years in Phoenix, and when it's up, he'll either retire or sign one more contract with a contender.

[Killakobe81]

It has been beaten to death, but opting to pass on Chandler has turned out to be one of the worst moves in recent history, tbh..

Even with Lebron growing balls, Dallas still has a solid chance at repeating, with Tyson..

Not sure anyone was beating LeBron, but a repeat Finals was there for the taking and I would give Dirk at least a 33% shot at bringing it home if the series was close. Not only was it dumb but almost unprecedented. Even the 2nd 3 peat Bulls dismantling made more sense MJ had nothing left to prove

[m>s]

Yup ^ and they don't have enough room to offer two max deals (even the reduced version) so that's extra extra money on the table.

they can afford two max deals if they're targeting on them cheaper players (e.g. Hibert)

[DPG21920]

they can afford two max deals if they're targeting on them cheaper players (e.g. Hibert)

I do not believe that to be correct.

[Stalin]

It's amazing how these dummies lucked into Tyson Chandler then kept him on accident and it got them a title. So undeserved.


Co sign

[Koolaid_Man]

so Dirk's last two seasons in Dallas will resemble Nash's last two years in Phoenix, and when it's up, he'll either retire or sign one more contract with a contender.


:lmao@the Rockets stock-piling picks and ending up with shit :p:

:lmao@ the Mavs for allowing Odom to teach them how to fuck themselves :p:

[Koolaid_Man]

These grave mishaps by the Mavs, Rockets,and Spurs show you just how smart the Laker Brass really is.

[racm]

The only grave mistake the Spurs FO made was to keep Matt Bonner on the team tbh

At least they turned Bruce Bowen into Stephen Jackson fwiw

That said the Knicks got ANOTHER TOSB PG - didn't they learn from last year?

[DMC]

Dirk needs to drive South a couple hundred miles and win a ring with Tim before they retire.

[racm]

Jeez a starting five of Parker/(whoever Pop decides starts at SG)/Leonard/Dirk/Tim is STAAAAAAAACKED tbh :

[Jeremy]

Sure is.

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Mavs have Aaron Brooks, Randy Foye on list of potential PGs, per source. Expect they'll look at Sessions, too. ESPN first w/Kidd to NY.

If Mavs are that desperate, maybe Suns can get a 1st rounder for Brooks.

[Venti Quattro]

The ambitious chase for Deron and Dwight is blowing up in Cubes' face.

[K-State Spur]

Is Donnie Nelson a good GM?

Name one value pick he's made besides Josh Howard.



Beaubois. There's at least one NBA team out there that thinks he's untouchable.