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BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 08:57 PM
sons I'm sure you are all looking forward to the Olympics this season. whether its for the basketball, Misty May's ass bouncing all over the place in beach volleyball, Michael Phelps hittin' the bong and still spanking everyone in the pool, etc. .... but since this is a basketball board I came across some interesting history regarding team USA. the United States is obviously the most dominate country in the world when it comes to basketball (most notably over the last 30 years), but with that said our teams have came up short on a couple of occasions over those last 30+ years and embarrassed the entire country.

1988 and 2004


Those two years were horrible for the U.S. team as we had to watch our country take home the pathetic bronze medal after years of dominating and taking home the gold (1984, 1992, 1996, 2000, and on to 2008, etc.). 1988 and 2004 were the only years the U.S. mens team has ever had to settle for the bronze. now what is most interesting about this fact is that the San Antonio Spurs are tied to this sad part of U.S. Olympic history because despite the 1988 and 2004 games being 16 years apart from one another, they both were led by San Antonio Spur greats David Robinson (1988) and Tim Duncan (2004).

now maybe some of you were already aware of this interesting fact, but it was new to me and I'm sure many others as well. Those were two very embarrassing and low moments in U.S. Olympics history, but thankfully we were able to rebound and go back for Gold. David Robinson was allowed back on the U.S. team to ride the coattails of the likes of MJ, Magic, and others in 1992 and 1996. However Tim Duncan was no longer welcomed on the U.S. team after his epic failure as team leader of the 2004 team. He was not on the team in 2008 despite only being 31 years old, and is obviously not welcomed on the team this year in 2012.

fevertrees
07-07-2012, 09:31 PM
The Admiral couldn't lead the US to Gold? SHAMEFUL

Bynumite
07-07-2012, 09:34 PM
Yes, i agree... Eric Gordon is a wimp and Kobe is a chucker and a fraud.

DMX7
07-07-2012, 09:40 PM
lol "not welcome". He didn't want to play. If he wanted to play, they would have found a spot for Tim.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 09:49 PM
lol "not welcome". He didn't want to play. If he wanted to play, they would have found a spot for Tim.

really? you do realize that Duncan was still young in 2008? yet they didn't want him. only a fool would think that him leading the team to bronze in 2004 had NOTHING to do with him not being on the team. no other "star" player or supposed "best" at their position would have ever left that type of unfinished business out there especially considering Duncan was only 31 in 2008, and could still compete in this years Olympics. even as much as I can't stand Kobe or LeBron, at least they helped the U.S. get the job done in 2008. LeBron was apart of that disgraceful 2004 bronze medal that Duncan led them into, but he didn't leave unfinished business out there, he came back at got the Gold.

Venti Quattro
07-07-2012, 09:51 PM
lol, Duncan was already 32 in 2008. Their most senior player, Kobe, turned 30 in the Gold Medal game. How is that young?

scanry
07-07-2012, 09:54 PM
As usual, BR dropping truth bombs. :lol

pass1st
07-07-2012, 09:55 PM
I thought Duncan said he didn't want to do the Olympics again after getting buttfucked by argentina and puerto rico in 2004.

We should be fine this year, plenty of talent. In 2004 we had poor leadership and 1988 was when we could only put amateur players on the court still.

Venti Quattro
07-07-2012, 09:57 PM
I thought Duncan said he didn't want to do the Olympics again after getting buttfucked by argentina and puerto rico in 2004.

We should be fine this year, plenty of talent. In 2004 we had poor leadership and 1988 was when we could only put amateur players on the court still.

In 1972 we got fucked by the refs. So we periodically get fucked in the Olympics every 16 years.

TE
07-07-2012, 09:58 PM
really? you do realize that Duncan was still young in 2008? yet they didn't want him. only a fool would think that him leading the team to bronze in 2004 had NOTHING to do with him not being on the team. no other "star" player or supposed "best" at their position would have ever left that type of unfinished business out there especially considering Duncan was only 31 in 2008, and could still compete in this years Olympics. even as much as I can't stand Kobe or LeBron, at least they helped the U.S. get the job done in 2008. LeBron was apart of that disgraceful 2004 bronze medal that Duncan led them into, but he was coming out of high school. he didn't leave unfinished business out there, he came back at got the Gold.

The players on that 2004 team, coupled with the fact that a toxic player like Allen Iverson was a co-leader led to the demise of the team. Timmy D actually had a good statline considering the clusterfuck roster make up of that team. 15.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 1.56 bpg, while shooting 60.7 percent from the field.

:lol Richard Jefferson being an olympian
:lol Marbury
:lol Losing to Puerto Rico by 19 points

fevertrees
07-07-2012, 09:58 PM
lol "not welcome". He didn't want to play. If he wanted to play, they would have found a spot for Tim.



What type of p****y wouldn't WANT to play for Team USA if given the chance?

TE
07-07-2012, 09:59 PM
lol "not welcome". He didn't want to play. If he wanted to play, they would have found a spot for Tim.

Agreed, Tim would've been picked over Carlos B:lolozer.

Josepatches_
07-07-2012, 10:02 PM
Again you forget the FIBA world championships in 2002 and 2006. In the period 2002-2006 USA team was a disaster. Duncan only played in 2004. That's the truth.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 10:06 PM
lol, Duncan was already 32 in 2008. Their most senior player, Kobe, turned 30 in the Gold Medal game. How is that young?

ummm son the age excuse is lame. to name a few ...


2012 Olympics

- Kobe Bryant is 33 years old


2000 Olympics

- Tim Hardaway was 34 years old
- Gary Payton was 32 years old
- Steve Smith was 31 years old


1996 Olympics

- John Stockton was 34 years old
- Charles Barkley was 33 years old
- Hakeem Olajuwon was 33 years old
- Mitch Richmond was 31 years old


1992 Olympics

- Larry Bird was 35 years old
- Magic Johnson was 33 years old


numerous players well over the age of 30 have competed for team USA, with the majority being star players. Duncan is the only star player in U.S. team history to leave unfinished business on the table after shitting the bed in 2004 with a bronze medal.

pass1st
07-07-2012, 10:10 PM
Again you forget the FIBA world championships in 2002 and 2006. In the period 2002-2006 USA team was a disaster. Duncan only played in 2004. That's the truth.

USA usually don't give a shit about FIBA, even back when they were dominating in the pre-professional era, they lost half the time. Why would they care? They already qualified.

LkrFan
07-07-2012, 10:10 PM
^ :lol

cd98
07-07-2012, 10:22 PM
2004 was Tim and a bunch of not-yets and never-weres. Kobe should have been on that team and those two would have won gold. But Kobe was in legal trouble from his Colorado rape. So Tim had to try and win gold with Iverson and Marbury.

Of course Tim gets a bye on 2004 given his HOF NBA career.

fevertrees
07-07-2012, 10:24 PM
just props to Kobe Bryant at his age STILL wanting to honor his country and play in the Olympics. Tim Duncan gets his ass whipped one time and he goes running with his tongue ring between his legs...

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 10:32 PM
So Tim had to try and win gold with Iverson and Marbury.


son will you listen to yourself!!! LOL

- Iverson was coming off of averaging 26ppg and leading the NBA in steals in 2004

- Marbury was coming off of averaging 20ppg and 9apg in 2004

AND

- you're ignoring the fact that Amare Stoudemire, a young Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, and oh yea the rookie of the year LeBron James were also on that team in 2004.


don't use the "but..but...but Timmy didn't have enough help!" excuse. are you kidding me???? he had more than enough help to beat fucking ITALY AND ARGENTINA!!!! lolz

Juggity
07-07-2012, 10:34 PM
Opening its training July 26, after 15 practices and six exhibition games, the U.S. opened the Olympics against Puerto Rico on Aug. 15. Facing a team they had defeated three times and by an average of 23 points a game in 2003, and a team the U.S. had beaten by 25 (96-71) in Jacksonville 16 days earlier on July 31, 2004, the USA's frigid 34.7 percent shooting from the field spelled trouble as Puerto Rico opened up a 22-point lead at halftime and then fought off every U.S. comeback attempt to earn a decisive 92-73 win. Lost in the loss was Duncan's inspired effort of 15 points, 16 rebounds (11 offensive), five steals, four assists and two blocked shots in 36 minutes.


Regrouping two days later, the USA behind 17 points by Iverson, who was playing with a fractured thumb on his shooting hand, fought off host Greece and its boisterous home crowd 77-71 to get its first win. Continuing preliminary round play on Aug. 19, the U.S. fought tooth-and-nail with Australia for three quarters, then outscored the Aussies 24-12 in the fourth quarter to earn an 89-79 victory and improve to 2-1. USA co-captains Iverson and Duncan paced the U.S. Duncan finished with 18 points on deadly 7-of-11 shooting, and grabbed 11 rebounds, AI added 16 points, while Marion made 8-of-10 shots and scored 16 points also.


Facing unbeaten Lithuania on Aug. 21, a team that had challenged the USA in the 2000 Olympic semifinals before ultimately falling short by two (85-83), the USA led 84-79 with just over three minutes to play, but was unable to hold on as Lithuania made big shot after big shot to rally back for a crushing 94-90 victory. Jefferson led the USA effort accounting for 20 points, while Duncan posted his third double-double in four Olympic games, compiling 16 points (6-7 FGs) and 12 rebounds. Two days later, the U.S. again bounced back from a loss and easily defeated an overmatched Angola squad 89-53 to close out preliminary round play as Duncan recorded a team leading 15 points in just 13 minutes of action.


The USA as a team ranked second among the 12 Olympic teams in scoring, averaging 88.1 points a game. Grabbing 38.9 rebounds a game, the U.S. ranked first in rebounding and outrebounded its opponents by an Olympic best margin of 10.8 rpg. (38.9 rpg. to 28.1 rpg.). The U.S. also ranked first in blocked shots (3.75 bpg.) [mostly due to the presence of Duncan], first in assists (15.13 apg.) and steals (10.63 spg.), and ranked second in turnover margin (+3.00).


Iverson established a new single game mark for 3-point shots attempted, launching 10 versus Puerto Rico to pass Reggie Miller's previous record of eight (versus China,7/26/96), and Duncan's 16 rebounds against Puerto Rico tied the USA single game record of 16 set by Jim Brewer (versus Australia, 9/28/72).

Duncan tied the U.S. mark for most rebounds in an Olympics with 73 (9.1 rpg.), equaling the mark set by Kevin Garnett in 2000.


Iverson FG%: .378
Duncan FG%: .567


Duncan was doing work, tbh. His teammates were jacking up bad shots.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 10:37 PM
so the next time any of you Spur fan want to say "LOL Italy" .... the joke is really on you because Italy took home the Silver medal that year while Duncan as team leader of the U.S. led our country to the fucking bronze.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 10:38 PM
Duncan was doing work, tbh. His teammates were jacking up bad shots.

LMAO at the "inspired effort" crap.

son that's like those kids in elementary school sports who all get a medal for participating!

the bottom line is that Duncan had his chance in the Olympics and completely shit the bed. I mean really? Argentina and Italy beat us????

fevertrees
07-07-2012, 10:40 PM
Looks like Duncan was just stat padding instead of being a leader to the team.

TE
07-07-2012, 10:42 PM
Duncan was doing work, tbh. His teammates were jacking up bad shots.

They jacked up bad shots and were horrendous at passing the ball around.


Anytime you have a backcourt consisting of ball stoppers like Marbury and Iverson, you have the potential to lose...much more so in international basketball which is a different type of basketball played (moving the ball on offense and playing zone). International teams rely on team chemistry and moving the ball -- something that 04 team was incapable of doing.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 10:44 PM
Argentina and Italy beat out Duncan's U.S. team. sons you can lawyer up and try and spin it however you want, but those are the facts. Duncan was the legit leader of our team that year and he couldn't get it done. honestly it just showed even more proof that he is a product of Pop's system in San Antonio. if you put him on any other team he would just be an above average big man, but in San Antonio Pop knew how to use him.

DMX7
07-07-2012, 10:49 PM
What type of p****y wouldn't WANT to play for Team USA if given the chance?

BR, son, just look at the supposed "p****ies" that are "injured" and not playing this year. Damn man, D. Wade and Chris Bosh just finished playing in the Finals, and now they're supposedly injured and can't play. Yeah right.

MannyIsGod
07-07-2012, 10:51 PM
Good trolling, TBH.

ElNono
07-07-2012, 10:54 PM
Argentina and Italy beat out Duncan's U.S. team. sons you can lawyer up and try and spin it however you want, but those are the facts. Duncan was the legit leader of our team that year and he couldn't get it done. honestly it just showed even more proof that he is a product of Pop's system in San Antonio. if you put him on any other team he would just be an above average big man, but in San Antonio Pop knew how to use him.

Argentina already beat Team USA in Indianapolis back in 2002 for the Worlds (no Duncan there)...

And Pop was an assistant coach in that 2004 team coached by Larry Brown...

cd98
07-07-2012, 10:58 PM
Argentina and Italy beat out Duncan's U.S. team. sons you can lawyer up and try and spin it however you want, but those are the facts. Duncan was the legit leader of our team that year and he couldn't get it done. honestly it just showed even more proof that he is a product of Pop's system in San Antonio. if you put him on any other team he would just be an above average big man, but in San Antonio Pop knew how to use him.

Tim Duncan is a HOF system player.

baseline bum
07-07-2012, 10:59 PM
- you're ignoring the fact that Amare Stoudemire, a young Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, and oh yea the rookie of the year LeBron James were also on that team in 2004.

LOL Larry Brown giving all their minutes to Richard Jefferson, Lamar Odom, and Shawn Marion.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 11:02 PM
Tim Duncan is a HOF system player.

agreed

ElNono
07-07-2012, 11:02 PM
Shawn Marion having the honor of getting bukkaked by Argentina both in 2002 and 2004 :lol

pass1st
07-07-2012, 11:09 PM
Shawn Marion having the honor of getting bukkaked by Argentina both in 2002 and 2004 :lol

Well, Argentina and Spain are the only good foreign teams. Unlike Greece, which has a team that gets its shit pushed in by a bunch of tribal shamans that though their airplane to the qualifying games was a monster, they have what it takes to compete.

DeadlyDynasty
07-07-2012, 11:22 PM
I was fully aware of Duncan letting our country down in 2004, but I forgot about D-Rob doing likewise in Seoul. Good find, BR.

Truly shameful representatives of our great nation.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 11:23 PM
sons many of you are being hypocrites by saying that "but... but... but.... Duncan had to play with" excuse because in the 2000 Olympics the U.S. had absolutely no problem bringing home the Gold with this roster ....


2000 Olympic Team

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Ray Allen
Vin Baker
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Hardaway
Allan Houston
Jason Kidd
Antonio McDyess
Alonzo Mourning
Gary Payton
Steve Smith


then Duncan had this ...

2004 Olympic Team

Timmy D
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudemire
Carlos Boozer
Lamar Odom
Emeka Okafor
Richard Jefferson
Shawn Marion



now sons come on. enough with the excuses. look at those rosters. if that 2000 team roster could win Gold, then Duncan's team had absolutely no excuse in 2004 for getting stomped out by Argentina and finishing behind ITALY for the bronze for the love of God.

Vash StampedE
07-07-2012, 11:25 PM
son will you listen to yourself!!! LOL

- Iverson was coming off of averaging 26ppg and leading the NBA in steals in 2004

- Marbury was coming off of averaging 20ppg and 9apg in 2004

Sir, will you listen to yourself!
:lol leaning on stat padding players
:lol trying to prove something using these 2 team-killers.
:lol Where are they playing now? China? Turkey?
:lol Wanting to play with these guys

Juggity
07-07-2012, 11:29 PM
Argentina and Italy beat out Duncan's U.S. team. sons you can lawyer up and try and spin it however you want, but those are the facts. Duncan was the legit leader of our team that year and he couldn't get it done. honestly it just showed even more proof that he is a product of Pop's system in San Antonio. if you put him on any other team he would just be an above average big man, but in San Antonio Pop knew how to use him.

I dunno son, if Iverson and Marbury were more willing to defer to Timmy and other open teammates rather than take poor shots, I imagine the outcome would have been different. We know based on Kobe's recent playoff run than when you have a selfish guard taking bad shots to obtain glory (despite having star big men on the team), it's a recipe for failure.

pass1st
07-07-2012, 11:32 PM
sons many of you are being hypocrites by saying that "but... but... but.... Duncan had to play with" excuse because in the 2000 Olympics the U.S. had absolutely no problem bringing home the Gold with this roster ....


2000 Olympic Team

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Ray Allen
Vin Baker
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Hardaway
Allan Houston
Jason Kidd
Antonio McDyess
Alonzo Mourning
Gary Payton
Steve Smith


then Duncan had this ...

2004 Olympic Team

Timmy D
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudemire
Carlos Boozer
Lamar Odom
Emeka Okafor
Richard Jefferson
Shawn Marion



now sons come on. enough with the excuses. look at those rosters. if that 2000 team roster could win Gold, then Duncan's team had absolutely no excuse in 2004 for getting stomped out by Argentina and finishing behind ITALY for the bronze for the love of God.

Son, the 2000 team almost lost to Lithuania :lol

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 11:33 PM
another thing sons is not only did Argentina sweep and mop the floor with Duncan's U.S. team in 2004 (the most crucial game of their Olympics which Duncan shit the bed and only scored 10 points, 6 rebounds, and turned the ball over 3 times see link below) ... but even Lithuania beat them as well. yes Lithuania!

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/38/rid/3822/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/statistic.html

(btw another interesting tidbit ... Ginobili stepped up for his country and delivered 29 points in that game while Duncan couldn't do shit for us)

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 11:34 PM
Son, the 2000 team almost lost to Lithuania :lol

lol son they did lose to Lithuania at one point...

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/11/grid/B/rid/3798/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/statistic.html

pass1st
07-07-2012, 11:40 PM
lol son they did lose to Lithuania at one point...

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/11/grid/B/rid/3798/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/statistic.html

Never again :depressed

racm
07-07-2012, 11:45 PM
TBH Duncan was the only consistent guy on that roster. Melo/LeBron/Wade were all still young, and your point guards were total chuckers in Marbury/Iverson.

The other squads had PGs who made plays for the team, not to mention guys like LeBron who would eagerly defer to the wide open guy.

But if the 2004 Olympics showed anything, Manu was a total beast.

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 11:47 PM
so just to set the record straight with statistical facts. Tim Duncan was clearly the best player on the 2004 Olympic team, I mean it was his team. However in the two biggest games for the U.S. team in 2004 Duncan was pretty much nowhere to be found ...


Semi-Finals vs Argentina

Argentina: 89
USA: 81

Duncan: 10 points, 6 rebounds, 3 turnovers


Top USA Performer

Stephon Marbury: 18 points (8 of 15 shooting)




Bronze Medal Game vs Lithuania

USA: 104
Lithuania: 96

Duncan: 6 points (1 of 7 shooting)


Top USA Performer

Shawn Marion: 22 points (9 of 15 shooting), 6 rebounds, 3 steals



http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/event/p/gid/A/grid/38/rid/3822/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/schedule.html

BRHornet45
07-07-2012, 11:51 PM
TBH Duncan was the only consistent guy on that roster.

son check my post above. that simply is not true. sure Duncan lit it up against fucking Angola and Puerto Rico (lol) ... but in the two most important games of the entire Olympics he didn't do shit.

resistanze
07-07-2012, 11:55 PM
Argentina and Italy beat out Duncan's U.S. team. sons you can lawyer up and try and spin it however you want, but those are the facts. Duncan was the legit leader of our team that year and he couldn't get it done. honestly it just showed even more proof that he is a product of Pop's system in San Antonio. if you put him on any other team he would just be an above average big man, but in San Antonio Pop knew how to use him.

:rollin

Clipper Nation
07-08-2012, 12:02 AM
You are absolutely right, BR... great take, B...

What the 2004 Olympic team needed was the calm, measured leadership of dat dude Eric "Da MF'n Troof" Gordon to set them team-killing chuckers straight... his clutch shots and warrior mindset would surely have delivered the gold, tbh...

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:06 AM
lol Clipper Nation stand up!!!

baseline bum
07-08-2012, 12:08 AM
Yeah right, having Clipper coach playing Marion over LeBron and Dick over Wade was already bad enough.

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:09 AM
Yeah right, having Clipper coach playing Marion over LeBron and Dick over Wade was already bad enough.

so just to set the record straight with statistical facts. Tim Duncan was clearly the best player on the 2004 Olympic team, I mean it was his team. However in the two biggest games for the U.S. team in 2004 Duncan was pretty much nowhere to be found ...


Semi-Finals vs Argentina

Argentina: 89
USA: 81

Duncan: 10 points, 6 rebounds, 3 turnovers


Top USA Performer

Stephon Marbury: 18 points (8 of 15 shooting)




Bronze Medal Game vs Lithuania

USA: 104
Lithuania: 96

Duncan: 6 points (1 of 7 shooting)


Top USA Performer

Shawn Marion: 22 points (9 of 15 shooting), 6 rebounds, 3 steals



http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/event/p/gid/A/grid/38/rid/3822/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/schedule.html

Clipper Nation
07-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Sons, that's why you need the clutch play of a guy like King Eric the Cornerstone on your team, tbh... it's CRIMINAL that he didn't make Team USA this year over that pathetic choker James Harden...

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:14 AM
sons the truth of the matter is that Duncan being the best player on the U.S. team in 2004 did nothing but pad his stats against pussy teams like Angola, Puerto Rico, and Greece (basically teams that if Matt Bonner played there he could look like Kareem Abdul Jabbar) ... but then shit the bed when it counted against teams that actually had some talent and when his country needed him the most. check the stats.

baseline bum
07-08-2012, 12:16 AM
so just to set the record straight with statistical facts. Tim Duncan was clearly the best player on the 2004 Olympic team, I mean it was his team. However in the two biggest games for the U.S. team in 2004 Duncan was pretty much nowhere to be found ...


Semi-Finals vs Argentina

Argentina: 89
USA: 81

Duncan: 10 points, 6 rebounds, 3 turnovers


Top USA Performer

Stephon Marbury: 18 points (8 of 15 shooting)




Bronze Medal Game vs Lithuania

USA: 104
Lithuania: 96

Duncan: 6 points (1 of 7 shooting)


Top USA Performer

Shawn Marion: 22 points (9 of 15 shooting), 6 rebounds, 3 steals



http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/event/p/gid/A/grid/38/rid/3822/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/schedule.html

Son, I thought your had Iverson as the best player on that team. I'm confused.

Clipper Nation
07-08-2012, 12:17 AM
King Cornerstone would have done this to Argentina and Lithuania:

06ZqPeMOGvQ

Vash StampedE
07-08-2012, 12:17 AM
Your team having those two players (Marbury, Iverson), with them being the team leaders, would really get you to the top but because of Duncan's inability to step up during that time, they weren't able to. This, I think, is based on the OP's perspective :lol.

On a serious note though, what is your expectation on an Olympic team led and ball-dominated by Iverson and Marbury?

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:19 AM
Son, I thought your had Iverson as the best player on that team. I'm confused.

no son pay attention. It is crystal clear that Duncan was the man on that team (even if he didn't play like it).

baseline bum
07-08-2012, 12:21 AM
How det nigga gonna be the man when he's only a system player?

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:21 AM
Your team having those two players (Marbury, Iverson), with them being the team leaders, would really get you to the top but because of Duncan's inability to step up during that time, they weren't able to. This, I think, is based on the OP's perspective :lol.

On a serious note though, what is your expectation on an Olympic team led and ball-dominated by Iverson and Marbury?

again son please pay attention. its annoying for others who can read and comprehend to have to go back thru all of this .... (from the previous page)



sons many of you are being hypocrites by saying that "but... but... but.... Duncan had to play with" excuse because in the 2000 Olympics the U.S. had absolutely no problem bringing home the Gold with this roster ....


2000 Olympic Team

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Ray Allen
Vin Baker
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Hardaway
Allan Houston
Jason Kidd
Antonio McDyess
Alonzo Mourning
Gary Payton
Steve Smith


then Duncan had this ...

2004 Olympic Team

Timmy D
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudemire
Carlos Boozer
Lamar Odom
Emeka Okafor
Richard Jefferson
Shawn Marion



now sons come on. enough with the excuses. look at those rosters. if that 2000 team roster could win Gold, then Duncan's team had absolutely no excuse in 2004 for getting stomped out by Argentina and finishing behind ITALY for the bronze for the love of God.

TE
07-08-2012, 12:23 AM
:lol one has to admire BR's spirit (oh shit look what I did here) to troll

On the real son, are you upset your boy unibrow didn't make the final cut? Be honest

Clipper Nation
07-08-2012, 12:24 AM
That 2000 team was stacked at the time, B... the prime versions of Kidd, KG, Vinsanity, and Ray Ray were impeccable and not to be fucked with...

The 2004 team had Emeka Okafor and Richard Jefferson on it, c'mon man...

Clipper Nation
07-08-2012, 12:25 AM
On the real son, are you upset your boy unibrow didn't make the final cut? Be honest
Nah B... I seem to detect more bitterness from BR about this man not making it:

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/espn1420.com/files/2012/04/eric-gordon.jpg

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:28 AM
son those Olympic photos were taken at the Wynn Hotel while they were practicing in Vegas. from what I heard Steve Wynn put James Harden and the rest of the team up in a nice multi-level suite at the Wynn while Eric Gordon was sent down the strip to Circus Circus for his deluxe room.

baseline bum
07-08-2012, 12:32 AM
Shit, I heard Unibrow was spotted chasing the hookers at Imperial Palace after getting shot down at Encore.

fevertrees
07-08-2012, 12:35 AM
REAL TALK a friend of mine is in Vegas right now and said he just walked by the fountains at the Bellagio... apparently Gordon was standing there CRYING saying "why isn't the Cornerstone good enough for Team USA???"

DMC
07-08-2012, 12:36 AM
Monkey hurling shit at the keyboard and screen, pissed that he doesn't have a team to root for. Monkey's sock puppet backing him up par per etc fwiw imo tbh

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:37 AM
Monkey hurling shit at the keyboard and screen, pissed that he doesn't have a team to root for. Monkey's sock puppet backing him up par per etc fwiw imo tbh

racist first of all. no need for that


son second of all I do have a team to root for. I also don't have to jump on another cities team bandwagon to cheer for the NFL either like you do.

racm
07-08-2012, 12:38 AM
BR, are you simply mad neither Cornerstone nor Unibrow were named to the team whilst OKC's Big Three are in?

LkrFan
07-08-2012, 12:38 AM
:corn:

LkrFan
07-08-2012, 12:41 AM
BR chin checking tonight sons. :lol

TE
07-08-2012, 12:50 AM
Nah B... I seem to detect more bitterness from BR about this man not making it:

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/espn1420.com/files/2012/04/eric-gordon.jpg



johnhollinger John Hollinger
RT @ekoreen: Eric Gordon's more interested in playing for Venezuela, anyway. USA has no interest in making him star.

:lmao

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 12:53 AM
lmao good find trigger

the media flaming this bitch too

Arnold Rothstein
07-08-2012, 01:58 AM
(btw another interesting tidbit ... Ginobili stepped up for his country and delivered 29 points in that game while Duncan couldn't do shit for us)


Son are you really surprised? This is the same player who CARRIED Duncan to 3 championships.

ElNono
07-08-2012, 02:00 AM
Well, Argentina and Spain are the only good foreign teams. Unlike Greece, which has a team that gets its shit pushed in by a bunch of tribal shamans that though their airplane to the qualifying games was a monster, they have what it takes to compete.

:lol

TE
07-08-2012, 02:01 AM
:lol

:lol yeah

I got a little lost with that last part of his sentence

Arnold Rothstein
07-08-2012, 02:04 AM
:lol yeah

I got a little lost with that last part of his sentence


Once I figured out wtf he was trying to say I lol'd.

ElNono
07-08-2012, 02:08 AM
BTW, that whole 2004 ARG-USA game is available on youtube:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_ZD2AN0eE
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRnw-P2JZnM
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBwuGEfG1Cs
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsrnpV0Cl1s
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKCf1IvoEM
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvtbwBIlrg
Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPIu9rg3bk

TE
07-08-2012, 02:16 AM
BTW, that whole 2004 ARG-USA game is available on youtube:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_ZD2AN0eE
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRnw-P2JZnM
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBwuGEfG1Cs
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsrnpV0Cl1s
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKCf1IvoEM
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvtbwBIlrg
Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPIu9rg3bk

what's up with pepe sanchez? why isn't he playing in these olympics?

Juggity
07-08-2012, 02:21 AM
BTW, that whole 2004 ARG-USA game is available on youtube:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_ZD2AN0eE
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRnw-P2JZnM
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBwuGEfG1Cs
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsrnpV0Cl1s
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKCf1IvoEM
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvtbwBIlrg
Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPIu9rg3bk

Pop has lost weight since 2004

ElNono
07-08-2012, 02:52 AM
what's up with pepe sanchez? why isn't he playing in these olympics?

Retired... too old

TE
07-08-2012, 03:00 AM
Retired... too old

IIRC, dude got some burn with the national team last summer...

TE
07-08-2012, 03:02 AM
Halfway through part 3 and Dick Jefferson's shitty play is on full display

TE
07-08-2012, 03:04 AM
@the 7:50 mark of part three, that sconochini pass is sick

Brutalis
07-08-2012, 10:31 AM
There was an agenda in 2004 against US. Look up player interviews from that team they all say the same.

DRob was the record holder for a long time for points scored in the Olympics. And checking the boxes he always showed up unlike Ewing.

DMC
07-08-2012, 11:13 AM
racist first of all. no need for that


son second of all I do have a team to root for. I also don't have to jump on another cities team bandwagon to cheer for the NFL either like you do.

I don't give a shit about the NFL.

Baton Rouge and New Orleans aren't the same cities fwiw.

I wasn't being racist, don't even know your race. You're being racist to associate a monkey with race.

ElNono
07-08-2012, 01:30 PM
IIRC, dude got some burn with the national team last summer...

Farewell tour, pretty much... they were playing in ARG, so him an Oberto sneaked in...

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 09:52 PM
for those who missed it last night ...




so just to set the record straight with statistical facts. Tim Duncan was clearly the best player on the 2004 Olympic team, I mean it was his team. However in the two biggest games for the U.S. team in 2004 Duncan was pretty much nowhere to be found ...


Semi-Finals vs Argentina

Argentina: 89
USA: 81

Duncan: 10 points, 6 rebounds, 3 turnovers


Top USA Performer

Stephon Marbury: 18 points (8 of 15 shooting)




Bronze Medal Game vs Lithuania

USA: 104
Lithuania: 96

Duncan: 6 points (1 of 7 shooting)


Top USA Performer

Shawn Marion: 22 points (9 of 15 shooting), 6 rebounds, 3 steals



http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/event/p/gid/A/grid/38/rid/3822/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/schedule.html

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 09:53 PM
sons the truth of the matter is that Duncan being the best player on the U.S. team in 2004 did nothing but pad his stats against pussy teams like Angola, Puerto Rico, and Greece (basically teams that if Matt Bonner played there he could look like Kareem Abdul Jabbar) ... but then shit the bed when it counted against teams that actually had some talent and when his country needed him the most. check the stats.

DPG21920
07-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Damn, BR Mad Son!

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 09:54 PM
another thing sons is not only did Argentina sweep and mop the floor with Duncan's U.S. team in 2004 (the most crucial game of their Olympics which Duncan shit the bed and only scored 10 points, 6 rebounds, and turned the ball over 3 times see link below) ... but even Lithuania beat them as well. yes Lithuania!

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/38/rid/3822/sid/3183/_/2004_Olympic_Games_Tournament_for_Men/statistic.html

*******(btw another interesting tidbit ... Ginobili stepped up for his country and delivered 29 points in that game while Duncan couldn't do shit for us)*******

baseline bum
07-08-2012, 10:28 PM
BR's going nuts after he heard Bellinelli's time in FEMA-town is done.

MannyIsGod
07-08-2012, 10:50 PM
It makes me sad when I look at today's Olympic team and think about the 92 Dream Team.

ElNono
07-08-2012, 11:17 PM
BR's going nuts after he heard Bellinelli's time in FEMA-town is done.

Is it?

BRHornet45
07-08-2012, 11:22 PM
typical Spur fan defense. ignore the facts and just make shit up.

lefty
07-08-2012, 11:34 PM
just props to Kobe Bryant at his age STILL wanting to honor his country and play in the Olympics. Tim Duncan gets his ass whipped one time and he goes running with his tongue ring between his legs...

The goods :tu

DeadlyDynasty
07-09-2012, 12:17 AM
Whether you take it as trolling or not is immaterial. BR's dropping truth bombs in this thread, and the harsh truth is that Tim Duncan shamed himself, his teammates, and America.

ElNono
07-09-2012, 12:26 AM
sup DD... How's baseball season?

baseline bum
07-09-2012, 12:35 AM
Whether you take it as trolling or not is immaterial. BR's dropping truth bombs in this thread, and the harsh truth is that Tim Duncan shamed himself, his teammates, and America.

Good, the rest of you faggots can't have him winning shit for you. I'll take the title he delivered the Spurs in the season immediately after over some bullshit medal in the lamest non-soccer sporting even in the world.

fevertrees
07-09-2012, 12:52 AM
Has anyone brought up the fact that he is from the Virgin Islands(not a true American) and probably doesn't give a shit about the USA?

fevertrees
07-09-2012, 12:55 AM
Good, the rest of you faggots can't have him winning shit for you. I'll take the title he delivered the Spurs in the season immediately after over some bullshit medal in the lamest non-soccer sporting even in the world.

LOL @ a NBA title being more prestigious than a GOLD Olympic medal. That's like putting the WWE Heavyweight belt being above owning the title in professional boxing.

DeadlyDynasty
07-09-2012, 12:59 AM
sup DD... How's baseball season?

Stanton's injured, stopped watching that debacle.

DMC
07-09-2012, 08:07 AM
Michael Phelps got 8 gold medals in the last Olympics. No one ever got 8 NBA championships in one season. There's no one playing the game who has more than 5 championships for their entire career. The best player in the game has 1.

Phelps walks into a Starbucks, and behind him walks Lebron James or Michael Jordan. Does anyone even notice Phelps?

NBA Championship >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gold Medal in terms of ease of acquisition in basketball.

Getting butt hurt over a fluke bronze is testament to that.

Bruce Jenner/Kardashian

Also, I noticed Emaka Okafor on that losing Olympic squad. That explains a lot.

DMC
07-09-2012, 08:10 AM
LOL @ a NBA title being more prestigious than a GOLD Olympic medal. That's like putting the WWE Heavyweight belt being above owning the title in professional boxing.
Yet here you sit on a basketball forum.

racm
07-09-2012, 08:17 AM
Let's face it - the Olympics would be more interesting if it were a corporate interest, where the superstars in the sports are given paramount attention.

Imagine if the football gold medal game had Spain nowhere - but Portugal vs Argentina so they could have Ronaldo vs Messi.

Bill_Brasky
07-09-2012, 08:31 AM
Lol, I forgot Richard Fagerson was an olympian.

BRHornet45
08-04-2012, 03:36 PM
sons for those of you who missed it

Koolaid_Man
03-16-2013, 06:49 PM
In the wake of some comments about Timmy being a likeable guy I don't won't the world to forget his real leadership qualities...when it's time to represent on the biggest grandest basketball stage of one's life you're true character comes to life....he's not very gracious in defeat and it appears he just completely abandoned his country because he couldn't dominate on the international court...and Spur fan would have us believe this guy can do no wrong... I wouldn't want to be caught in a foxhole with this guy he's a quitter based on his own comments...Plain and Simple...

Before the Olympic games Duncan said:
" It's an honor to be on the Olympic team, period. And, then, to be put in a captain spot on this team is a big responsibility but it one that is shouldered by a lot of different guys. I feel comfortable, being one of the elders, so I will try to do my best," said Duncan. "With Allen and myself, we bring two distinctive ways of doing things, but we bring two ways that are good for the team. That's to go out, play hard and get the job done."

After he brought home the bronze medal here was his comments:
A frustrated Duncan, who said that he is 95% sure his FIBA career is over and that "FIBA sucks," was asked if he felt his frustrations would deter other stars from playing in the Olympics. "I hope not," he said, "I'll try not to share my experience with anyone."


Iverson, however, said the experience was worth it to him and encouraged other NBA stars to play:



"You have to understand that to play it's an honor to play on this team," he said. "It's something you should cherish for the rest of your life. Even without winning the gold medal I feel good about being a part of something like this."



http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/basketball/2004-08-29-mens-hoops_x.htm

Koolaid_Man
03-16-2013, 06:58 PM
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