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velik_m
07-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Three NSA Whistleblowers Back EFF's Lawsuit Over Government's Massive Spying Program

EFF Asks Court to Reject Stale State Secret Arguments So Case Can Proceed

San Francisco - Three whistleblowers – all former employees of the National Security Agency (NSA) – have come forward to give evidence in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF's) lawsuit against the government's illegal mass surveillance program, Jewel v. NSA.

In a motion filed today, the three former intelligence analysts confirm that the NSA has, or is in the process of obtaining, the capability to seize and store most electronic communications passing through its U.S. intercept centers, such as the "secret room" at the AT&T facility in San Francisco first disclosed by retired AT&T technician Mark Klein in early 2006.

"For years, government lawyers have been arguing that our case is too secret for the courts to consider, despite the mounting confirmation of widespread mass illegal surveillance of ordinary people," said EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "Now we have three former NSA officials confirming the basic facts. Neither the Constitution nor federal law allow the government to collect massive amounts of communications and data of innocent Americans and fish around in it in case it might find something interesting. This kind of power is too easily abused. We're extremely pleased that more whistleblowers have come forward to help end this massive spying program."

The three former NSA employees with declarations in EFF's brief are William E. Binney, Thomas A. Drake, and J. Kirk Wiebe. All were targets of a federal investigation into leaks to the New York Times that sparked the initial news coverage about the warrantless wiretapping program. Binney and Wiebe were formally cleared of charges and Drake had those charges against him dropped.

More... (https://www.eff.org/press/releases/three-nsa-whistleblowers-back-effs-lawsuit-over-governments-massive-spying-program)

So... can they win?

boutons_deux
07-08-2012, 05:42 PM
hell no. the NSA, the entire national security apparatus, is out of control, no oversight by Congress, and untouchable.

Washington's Militarized Mindset

Americans may feel more distant from war than at any time since World War II began. Certainly, a smaller percentage of us -- less than 1% [5] -- serves in the military in this all-volunteer era of ours and, on the face of it, Washington’s constant warring in distant lands seems barely to touch the lives of most Americans.

And yet the militarization of the United States and the strengthening of the National Security Complex continues to accelerate. The Pentagon is, by now, a world unto itself, with a staggering budget at a moment when no other power or combination of powers comes [6]near to challenging [7] this country’s might.

In the post-9/11 era, the military-industrial complex [8] has been thoroughly mobilized [9] under the rubric of “privatization” and now goes to war with the Pentagon. With its $80 billion-plus [10]budget, the intelligence bureaucracy has simply exploded. There are so many [11] competing agencies and outfits, surrounded by a universe of private intelligence contractors [12], all enswathed in a penumbra of secrecy, and they have grown so large, mainly under the Pentagon’s aegis, that you could say intelligence is now a ruling way of life in Washington -- and it, too, is being thoroughly militarized. Even the once-civilian CIA has undergone a process of para-militarization [13] and now runs its own “covert” drone wars in Pakistan and elsewhere. Its director, a widely hailed retired four-star general [14], was previously the U.S. war commander in Iraq and then Afghanistan, just as the National Intelligence Director [15] who oversees the whole intelligence labyrinth is a retired Air Force lieutenant general.

In a sense, even the military has been “militarized.” In these last years, a secret army [16] of special operations forces, 60,000 or more strong and still expanding [17], has grown like an incubus inside the regular armed forces. As the CIA’s drones have become the president’s private air force, so the special ops troops are his private army, and are now given free rein to go about the business of war in their own cocoon of secrecy in areas far removed from what are normally considered America’s war zones.

Diplomacy, too, has been militarized. Diplomats work ever more closely with the military, while the State Department is transforming itself into an unofficial arm of the Pentagon -- as the secretary of state is happy to admit [18] -- as well as of the weapons industry [19].

And keep in mind that we now have two Pentagons, thanks to the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is focused, among other things, on militarizing [20] our southern border. Meanwhile, with the help of the DHS, local police forces nationwide have, over the last decade, been significantly up-armored [21] and have, in the name of fighting terrorism, gained a distinctly military patina. They have ever more access to elaborate weaponry and gadgets, including billions of dollars of surplus military equipment [22] of every sort, often being funneled to once peaceable small town police departments.

http://www.thenation.com/print/article/168730/washingtons-militarized-mindset

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After shrub and dickhead and their attack lapdogs escaped blame for 9/11 and the Iraq/Afganistan war crimes/incompetence, the national security apparatus is making damn sure not to allow another attack, no matter how violated, nullified are civil liberties.

Just think something bad about USA, or just get alleged to be thinking something bad, and get your ass, and any nearby women and children, vaporized by a US drone.

velik_m
07-17-2012, 06:01 AM
http://skype-open-source.blogspot.ch/2012/05/microsoft-wiretapping-on-skype-now.html

Well this explains the big price Microsoft paid for Skype:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/12/nsa_offers_billions_for_skype_pwnage/

Winehole23
09-06-2013, 11:57 AM
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/09/hundreds-pages-nsa-spying-documents-be-released-result-eff-lawsuit