**Official Dwight Howard to Brroklyn Nets thread***

[ChrisRichards]

Trader_Joe wrote:Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports

Just spoke with a source that tells me that Billy King is "very close" to getting Dwight Howard. And deal could be completed "very soon."


Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
this sounds like a whopper of a deal. 11 players in total. Complicated to say the least. #magic #nets



Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
11 players non confirmed, but that's what it is sounding like from what I hear. no names in particular though.

[Clipper Nation]

Billy King = the new Pat Riley, tbh...

NBA should just contract every team except for the Heat, OKC, Clippers, and Nets for the next few years...

[Kai]

Isn't Rudolph Dwight's lapdog? Hennigan will not accept Brook Lopez and company for Dwight.

[Kai]

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Spoke w/ source who tells me Nets deal WON'T happen. Teams lining up w/ offers featuring cap relief/picks, which Hennigan wanted all along.

[ElNono]

at this rate it's never going to happen, tbh...

[Clipper Nation]

The Magic are so f'n stupid, just trade his ass to Brooklyn already and get it over with, tbh...

[Andrew Bynum]

The Magic are so f'n stupid, just trade his ass to Brooklyn already and get it over with, tbh...

:lol Someone doesn't want to see Dwight on the Lakers.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Someone doesn't want to see Dwight on the Lakers.
:lol Just wait til Bynum goes to the Cavs next summer and you're left with three TOSB's.

[Andrew Bynum]

:lol Just wait til Bynum goes to the Cavs next summer and you're left with three TOSB's.

:lol Thinking the Lakers won't give me an extension if they don't get Dwight.

[Clipper Nation]

BTW... LOL at "Brroklyn" in the title...

[DMC]

:lol Thinking the Lakers won't give me an extension if they don't get Dwight.
:lol you needing Dwight and Pau just to win 2 games in the 2nd round.
:lol You should pray a coach comes in the deal

[ginobili's bald spot]

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Spoke w/ source who tells me Nets deal WON'T happen. Teams lining up w/ offers featuring cap relief/picks, which Hennigan wanted all along.

:lmao Yea fucking right. Obvious Orlando leak is obvious.

[Latarian Milton]

Billy King = the new Pat Riley, tbh...

NBA should just contract every team except for the Heat, OKC, Clippers, and Nets for the next few years...

clips ain't even relevant, overrated squad full of injury prone shitbags, where CP3 was the only player to trust. the clippers ain't much better than 08' hornets and CP3 himself must also realize it, when CP3 ends up leaving them for dallas next year, the clippers are fucked

[Kai]

NBA should just contract every team except for the Heat, OKC, Clippers, and Nets for the next few years...

:lmao:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Damn yo, the haters be salty today tbh...

[DMC]

clips ain't even relevant, overrated squad full of injury prone shitbags, where CP3 was the only player to trust. the clippers ain't much better than 08' hornets and CP3 himself must also realize it, when CP3 ends up leaving them for dallas next year, the clippers are fucked
This is true. The Clippers could have the fucking original Dream Team and still not be relevant because they are the fucking Clippers. Same team with Lakers uniforms become relevant suddenly.

[pass1st]

Damn yo, the haters be salty today tbh...

Clippers have gone the longest without a title of all teams in the NBA

This is a fact

[Bynumite]

Damn yo, the haters be salty today tbh...

It's called reality, years and years of mediocrity and a 2nd round sweep don't make you relevant.

[Clipper Nation]

Clippers have gone the longest without a title of all teams in the NBA
Character-building for the true Clipper faithful, tbh...

[irishock]

Melo 2010.

[pass1st]

Character-building for the true Clipper faithful, tbh...

Not when you act like they are possible contenders when they are riddled with problems, tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Tommy Dee ‏@TommyDeeTKB
Nets were able to acquire another pick to include in the deal… could be done “as soon as tomorrow”

[Bynumite]

I can post stuff from random dude's on twitter too:


David Wiess ‏@WiessD
Lakers who have Bynum not as desperate to get Howard as the Nets; Magic perfer trade w/ Lakers where they get Bynum, hence the false leak.

12m David Wiess ‏@WiessD
The @DwightHoward trade is turning into a game of high stakes poker between the Magic, Nets & Lakers. Will be interesting to see who wins.

17m David Wiess ‏@WiessD
Source: Reports of Howard being traded to the Nets was deliberately leaked by Magic to try to gain leverage in trade talks with the Lakers.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol You do realize that's a fake AP reporter, right...

Tommy Dee is a legit source who has been backed up by Alex Kennedy, Ken Berger, and Alan Hahn...

[Bynumite]

I wouldn't know, i don't follow or care about stuff said on twitter tbh.

[ginobili's bald spot]

SebastianPruiti ‏@SebastianPruiti
Orlando leaking rumors about a Nets' deal, getting offers to lineup? Shocking...Listen, Dwight's not going to happen...


I told y'all niggas. It's only obvious that's what Orlando is trying to do seeing as they have no leverage.

[Josepatches_]

Bynum isnt going to resign if he's trade to Orlando so that trade has no sense at all. Orlando would be in the same situation next summer

Brooklyn Nets emerge again as strong contender to land Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets-emerge-again-as-strong-contender-to-land-dwight-howard.html)

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol The Nets are going to be comedy next season. When this blows up in their face, it will be entertaining. Net fans really believing their team has a shot against Miami is what is the funniest.

:lol Orlando for paying that pos Lopez the Max
:lol Dan Gilbert desperate to attempt to stop Miami's dynasty
:lol Nets

[Bynumite]

Longest soap opera ever and in the end they take Lopez and picks for Dwight? :lmao

[baseline bum]

Cant see why Orlando does it, and really can't see why Cleveland wants Humphries when they have a much better PF in Sideshow Bob on a reasonable contract.

[timvp]

I'd rather roll the dice and possibly lose Howard for nothing than get back Broke Lopez and a slew of late first rounders.

[ElNono]

I just hope the Nets suck, tbh... so they can't jack up prices and can still go see my Spurs for cheap...

[TIMMYtoZO]

Cant see why Orlando does it, and really can't see why Cleveland wants Humphries when they have a much better PF in Sideshow Bob on a reasonable contract.

Orlando will also have Lopez on a max deal. Bynum won't commit to an extension, so the magic feel this is the 2nd best offer. Gilbert is desperate to "stop" Miami's Dynasty. :lol

[Killakobe81]

Cant see why Orlando does it, and really can't see why Cleveland wants Humphries when they have a much better PF in Sideshow Bob on a reasonable contract.

Verejao and the other young PF (Thompson?!) are both better than Humphries. Verejao better on defense and the other kid has better talent than both.

I get Gilbert not wanting Miami to win but why would he help a big market team? I just hope it's over soon one way or another. I doubt we get him, but that trade makes no sense, Houston can offer young assets and possibly better future picks.

Bynum would sign in Orlando. No way he passes up an extra year with his injury history. Agent would be a dumbass ...

[024]

lopez isn't bad. his ceiling is pau gasol, the version that led the lakers to two titles. he's better than any of the rockets' assets and whatever the fuck the mavs have.

[pass1st]

lopez isn't bad. his ceiling is pau gasol, the version that led the lakers to two titles. he's better than any of the rockets' assets and whatever the fuck the mavs have.

Pau being a leader :lol

[TIMMYtoZO]

Oh and :lmao@ the Lakers. They are going to have one slow team.

[Andrew Bynum]

There has to be more to this than Lopez at the max and a handful of late first rounders. I'd legititamely feel for Magic fans if that's what they end up with and I don't give three shits about Orlando.

[Clipper Nation]

Longest soap opera ever and in the end they take Lopez and picks for Dwight? :lmao
Better than one year of Bynum and no picks, tbh...

[baseline bum]

Bynum would sign in Orlando. No way he passes up an extra year with his injury history. Agent would be a dumbass ...

No he won't. If he doesn't agree to sign with the Magic then he gets the max deal from the Lakers instead once Dwight is traded elsewhere. No way Bynum signs his ticket out of town to Orlando. He is in control of whether and where he gets traded.

[Bynumite]

I would take a risk with Bynum and hope he signs an extension and not be stuck with Brook freakin Lopez for the next 4 years.

[Clipper Nation]

I would take a risk with Bynum and hope he signs an extension and not be stuck with Brook freakin Lopez for the next 4 years.
If I were a Magicfan, I would want Brook Lopez to be there sucking it up as much as possible so they could keep getting lottery picks, tbh...

[Andrew Bynum]

I would take a risk with Bynum and hope he signs an extension and not be stuck with Brook freakin Lopez for the next 4 years.

:lol No kidding

[baseline bum]

I would take a risk with Bynum and hope he signs an extension and not be stuck with Brook freakin Lopez for the next 4 years.

They don't want another year of a spoiled star player who can't wait to hang them to dry in the summer.

[ElNono]

I would take a risk with Bynum and hope he signs an extension and not be stuck with Brook freakin Lopez for the next 4 years.

Coach Brown probably don't want Brook anyways because he don't shoot 3s :cry

:lol

[Andrew Bynum]

I'm definitely the kinda guy that would leave 30 mill on the table, you know with my shaky knees and everything.

[baseline bum]

I'm definitely the kinda guy that would leave 30 mill on the table, you know with my shaky knees and everything.

You're not understanding; the threat is enough to get Orlando to not trade for you and then you get that $30 million extra to stay in LA instead.

[ElNono]

I'm definitely the kinda guy that would leave 30 mill on the table, you know with my shaky knees and everything.

tbh, unless you're on crutches come free agency, nobody is going to care about your knees.

[Kai]

Peter Vecsey @PeterVecsey1

Contrary to some reports, Nets do not have deal in place for DH. Much maneuvering on tap, I'm informed. First 10 scenarios unacceptable.


Peter Vecsey @PeterVecsey1

Comp 4 DH has been narrowed to Nets & "still lurking" Houston. W/Lakers evidently out of picture up to Nets to satisfy OM, I'm informed.

[gambit1990]

i hope he gets traded to toronto :lol

[benefactor]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets-emerge-again-as-strong-contender-to-land-dwight-howard.html

Short version of the article...The Magic want to get this done and not let it drag into the summer, the Lakers are likely out because Bynum will not agree to an extension and though Hennigan would prefer to send Howard to the West the Nets package is the safest for them. There is also the outside chance the Magic accept as many as four first round picks instead of taking Lopez...but Lopez going there is most likely.

[benefactor]

Well hell...I guess I could have scrolled up.

[benefactor]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Magic brass will meet at 9 a.m. to discuss if they should pull the trigger on the three-team deal with the Nets and Cavaliers.

[racm]

Verejao and the other young PF (Thompson?!) are both better than Humphries. Verejao better on defense and the other kid has better talent than both.

I get Gilbert not wanting Miami to win but why would he help a big market team? I just hope it's over soon one way or another. I doubt we get him, but that trade makes no sense, Houston can offer young assets and possibly better future picks.

Bynum would sign in Orlando. No way he passes up an extra year with his injury history. Agent would be a dumbass ...

Yeah, Varejao and Thompson are better bigs than Humphries. Varejao's a known quantity who helped keep Cleveland in playoff contention until they went down and they practically tanked. Thompson was named to the All-Rookie Second Team and his stats improved every month, especially when he became a starter.

With Jamison out of the Cavs they'll start Irving/Waiters/SF/Thompson/Varejao.

[Killakobe81]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Magic brass will meet at 9 a.m. to discuss if they should pull the trigger on the three-team deal with the Nets and Cavaliers.

What a shitty deal if they accept. Again, just like with CP3, its fine if Lakers don't get him,but you have to get more than that from Nets. I also don't get Cleveland. Things had been going well with the rebuild, why lock up Humprhies?

[jesterbobman]

I think the framework is probably Nets giving up Brooks to get a 1st or 2, then trade 1 of the picks, Humphries and other stuff to the Cavs(picks being incentive for Cavs to accept him in a trade as He could just sign there.) Humphries on overpaid 1 year deal so that he'll sign. Lopez, 3/4 1sts to Orlando, Nets probably also take back a bad contract(Davis?).

It really helps GM's when they're in big markets and have an owner with money to spend.

If this happens, can the Executive of the year just go to Brooklyn?

[Killakobe81]

I think the framework is probably Nets giving up Brooks to get a 1st or 2, then trade 1 of the picks, Humphries and other stuff to the Cavs(picks being incentive for Cavs to accept him in a trade as He could just sign there.) Humphries on overpaid 1 year deal so that he'll sign. Lopez, 3/4 1sts to Orlando, Nets probably also take back a bad contract(Davis?).

It really helps GM's when they're in big markets and have an owner with money to spend.

If this happens, can the Executive of the year just go to Brooklyn?

From the Nets side, it makes perfect sense. And yes the often criticized, King would be the favorite.

[racm]

Humphries would only be signed for a year, and unless he impresses Byron Scott he'll be the fourth big in the rotation, as Thompson has shown flashes of competency, Varejao is the only guy left from the LeBron days, and Zeller is the only true center on the rotation (well, there's Harangody...)

Also, if Howard does go to the Nets, they'll be facing the Knicks 4 times in a season.

DWill > Lin/Kidd
JJ = two headed SG of Shumpert/JR Smith
Crash < Melo
Teletovic = Amar'e, unless the Knicks get Camby

And here's the kicker, while D12 is better than Chandler Chandler has won their matchup:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=chandty01&p2=howardw01

[K-State Spur]

I would take a risk with Bynum and hope he signs an extension and not be stuck with Brook freakin Lopez for the next 4 years.

The risk with Bynum is threefold. 1) That he won't resign. 2) That he'll put them through similar shenanigans that they've had to deal with regarding Dwight. 3) That they do sign him, then they have a maxed out for a guy with a rough injury history who can break down at any moment (2012 doesn't change that).

[racm]

Bynum and Brook aren't too different, except Bynum is a much better rebounder and has had more health issues than the latter (no, a broken foot isn't as bad as bad knees are to a long-term career; even MJ broke his foot in his sophomore season)

[Killakobe81]

Bynum and Brook aren't too different, except Bynum is a much better rebounder and has had more health issues than the latter (no, a broken foot isn't as bad as bad knees are to a long-term career; even MJ broke his foot in his sophomore season)

Magic need to get marshon too

[Latarian Milton]

Lopez ain't worth a shit tbh :lol 7'0 dude who cannot rebound or block

[racm]

Tbh that's why Humphries had a career year. Since Brook can't rebound (even Blair rebounds better, and he gives up 5 inches) Mr Kardashian got to get all the boards.

[Killakobe81]

Lopez ain't worth a shit tbh :lol 7'0 dude who cannot rebound or block

I agree, but here is where a Nets/Magic deal could be acceptable. If they get another first from the Cavs.

3 first rounders (2 Nets/1 Cavs)
Marshon Brooks
Lopez (but only if Lopez takes a fair market value extension)

Now of course fair market value it ridiculous with Asik and Hibbert signing what they did, since they both play defense but he deserves in that ball park Considering Ryan Anderson just signed a big deal as a mostly offensive "big" and Lopez is a legit 7 footer.

Still not a great trade, but dont see how Magic dont at least get Marshon. That is pretty much akin to 4 first rounders. I would "get" that trade especially if Nets eat one of those poison pill contracts especially Turk's.

[Latarian Milton]

if broolyn want to get this nigga DH, they gotta do it NOW via a sign&trade deal because they'd otherwise have no room to sign him as a FA a year later

it's an acceptable offer for the magic as well, they get a nice pack of future 1st round picks and possibly also the riddance of shitty contracts, and it's not like they can get any better offer at this point when DH is known to want OUT

[Kai]

There's absolutely no way Orlando accepts this shit offer. This has smoke screen written all over it.

[FlAVaK]

Adrian Wojnarowski (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets-emerge-again-as-strong-contender-to-land-dwight-howard.html)

"In the proposed deal, Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark would be sent to Brooklyn, and the Magic would receive the Nets' Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland's Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said. Cleveland would receive Orlando's Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn's Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets. Brooklyn also would send Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic."

[whitemamba]

tbh lopez and humprhies both fucking suck.

[jeebus]

Well, if Howard's back explodes, those first round picks would be very nice. NJ is going nowhere with Deron and Overrated if Howard dies.

Other than that, shitty offer.

[gambit1990]

i want this to be done with already.

[whitemamba]

magic are just bsing, we all know dwights coming to LA, they want a solid big man.. not some scrubs

[jeebus]

magic are just bsing, we all know dwights coming to LA, they want a solid big man.. not some scrubs
Not if Titties leaves after 1 season with the Magic.

[ginobili's bald spot]

There's absolutely no way Orlando accepts this shit offer. This has smoke screen written all over it.

+1 That deal is absolute RAPE. The only reason people are trying to rationalize it is because they are scared of Howard going to the Lakers. If there were rumors of the Lakers making that trade, spurstalk would be flooded with tears and ":cryI'm not watching the NBA anymore!!!:cry" threads.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Dwight to LA. So my Lakers homies can celebrate another 3 rings in the Kobe era

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

JJ = two headed SG of Shumpert/JR Smith
Teletovic = Amar'e, unless the Knicks get Camby

:lmao

[Kai]

It would be awesome if Atlanta swooped in and took him out of nowhere because of the flexibility Brooklyn gave them in the JJ trade :lol

[Kai]

Dwight to LA. So my Lakers homies can celebrate another 3 rings in the Kobe era

Go die again tbh

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol people trying to convince themselves the Magic would take this trade if Bynum for Dwight was on the table. After Brook basically missed all of last season, his value is as low as ever while Bynum's value is as high as ever. In addition to the fact he's 10x the rebounder Lopez is, he's a much more efficient scorer, he actually plays defense, and he finds ways to be effective without getting tons of touches. Lopez and Bynum aren't even close in terms of value.

[Kai]

:lol people trying to convince themselves the Magic would take this trade if Bynum for Dwight was on the table. After Brook basically missed all of last season, his value is as low as ever while Bynum's value is as high as ever. In addition to the fact he's 10x the rebounder Lopez is, he's a much more efficient scorer, he actually plays defense, and he finds ways to be effective without getting tons of touches. Lopez and Bynum aren't even close in terms of value.

The word is Orlando won't take Bynum back without a guarantee of re-signing and Bynum won't guarantee shit.

[pass1st]

:lol people trying to convince themselves the Magic would take this trade if Bynum for Dwight was on the table. After Brook basically missed all of last season, his value is as low as ever while Bynum's value is as high as ever. In addition to the fact he's 10x the rebounder Lopez is, he's a much more efficient scorer, he actually plays defense, and he finds ways to be effective without getting tons of touches. Lopez and Bynum aren't even close in terms of value.

+ Bynum is an aspiring 3pt shooter

[ginobili's bald spot]

Not if Titties leaves after 1 season with the Magic.


For all the people who think this, lets take a moment to do some critical thinking. Bynum is either:

A) going to leave 30 million dollars on the table because he wants to play in Cleveland SOOOO bad and hates money.


or...


B) His agent is saying that to scare the Magic away because he doesn't want to leave LA.




This is a really tough case to crack.

[Kai]

For all the people who think this, lets take a moment to do some critical thinking. Bynum is either:

A) going to leave 30 million dollars on the table because he wants to play in Cleveland SOOOO bad and hates money.


or...


B) His agent is saying that to scare the Magic away because he doesn't want to leave LA.




This is a really tough case to crack.
It's very likely he re-signs, but crazier things have happened. Orlando looks at Bynum without a guarantee as much less of an asset than if it was a sure thing.

[ginobili's bald spot]

It's very likely he re-signs, but crazier things have happened. Orlando looks at Bynum without a guarantee as much less of an asset than if it was a sure thing.

A 99% to re sign Bynum >>>>>>>>>
Noam Schiller ‏@noamschiller

The Magic are going to have a capped out team with a starting lineup of Jameer-Redick-Hedo-Baby/Ayon-Lopez. That's terrifying.



If the Magic GM can't see that then :lol

[pass1st]

It's very likely he re-signs, but crazier things have happened. Orlando looks at Bynum without a guarantee as much less of an asset than if it was a sure thing.

They probably see it as a sure thing vs a gamble

The sure thing is getting an overrated center that can't rebound for shit and some picks.

The gamble is getting the #2 center in the NBA that is as close you can possibly get to D12 and probably a solid piece to add to the roster.

Even though Bynum says otherwise, the Magic brass probably know they have a good chance to resign him. They can offer him everything he wants: his own team, money and being a franchise player. They just don't want to walk out empty handed, but the Nets don't really offer much in the way of replacing what they will lose.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

IMO a 50% chance Bynum resigns is worth more than a 100% chance they have Lopez long term. Lopez has gotten lazier and more complacent every year he's been in the league.

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol This desperation to stop Miami's dynasty is very entertaining. Dan Gilbert would give up both of his nuts to make this deal happen.

[ginobili's bald spot]

IMO a 50% chance Bynum resigns is worth more than a 100% chance they have Lopez long term. Lopez has gotten lazier and more complacent every year he's been in the league.


Exactly. And the fact is that it's WAY higher than 50%. People really over estimate NBA players financial situations as if that isn't a massive amount of money to them. We aren't talking about Lebron James here. This is Andrew "glass knees" Bynum. Every contract could be his last.

[Kai]

Even if they don't want to do the LA deal, you'd have to think there are better offers out there than Brooklyn's.

[ElNono]

:lol This desperation to stop Miami's dynasty is very entertaining. Dan Gilbert would give up both of his nuts to make this deal happen.

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Sons, the Clippers are about to stick a fork in the Lakers' chances at Dwight...


Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider (https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider)

Just going up on ESPN. Clipoers will be 4th team in D Howard deal. They would take back MarShon Brooks in return for a lottery protected 1st


Commence Lakerfan tears in 5...

[djohn2oo8]

If Orlando wanted to run that franchise like a bunch of tards, they shoulda just put Dan Gilbert's kid in charge. But really, fuck Orlando, cleveland, and Mwhorey.

[jag]

I don't know how Houston hasn't worked out a deal for Dwight yet. I figured it was a done deal as soon as they started dangling Marcus Camby out there as bait.

amirite guise?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

They should send the caravans they used to get Bosh out to get Dwight.

That front court :wow

[Andrew Bynum]

:lol Orlando Magic

[Bynumite]

Magic with the franchise harakiri goods tbh :lmao

[baseline bum]

:lol This desperation to stop Miami's dynasty is very entertaining. Dan Gilbert would give up both of his nuts to make this deal happen.

After seeing the retardation that came out of them, gotta say it's not a good deal tbh.

[ChrisRichards]

The Nets and Magic have exchanged medical records of Dwight Howard and Brook Lopez.
Both players have had injury issues in recent months.
Howard underwent surgery on his back while Lopez has had foot issues.
The two teams are in discussions on a multi-team trade with Howard and Lopez as the centerpieces.


ESPN/Ric Bucher

This trade is goin down.

[Kai]

Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI

Kris Humphries agent, Dan Fegan, tells SI that talk of a one-year deal for Humphries is "ridiculous."





Indeed, Humphries’s agent, Dan Fegan, has not even had a conversation with the Cavaliers about a contract for Humphries, according to league sources. The Nets are driving the process.


The Nets have sent medical records for their free agent center, Brook Lopez, to the Magic. Lopez would be the centerpiece of the players and picks that Orlando would take back in a package for Howard. However, the Nets have not asked for or received Howard’s medical records from Orlando, according to the source involved in the discussions, because the talks have not gotten to the point where a deal is imminent.


http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/09/dwight-update-clippers-in-the-mix-as-fourth-team-in-trade-talks/

[baseline bum]

Exactly. And the fact is that it's WAY higher than 50%. People really over estimate NBA players financial situations as if that isn't a massive amount of money to them. We aren't talking about Lebron James here. This is Andrew "glass knees" Bynum. Every contract could be his last.

So they're supposed to want a guy who will absolutely create the exact same drama the franchise got sick of last season? They might as well just hold onto Howard and dare him to take the $30 million less in that case. If you're going to take that gamble, why take it with a glass-kneed lesser player like Bynum? Howard already showed he wouldn't take less when he waived the opt-out anyways.

[Andrew Bynum]

Mr. Kardashian is gonna fuck up the whole trade wanting a four year deal :lol I hope it goes down though just for the comedy sake. Whenever you can trade the third best player in the league for a center who cant rebound or score effeciently and three late first round picks you gotta do it.

[baseline bum]

Why is Dwight any less greedy than you, Drew? He gonna leave the $30 million sitting on the table too?

[Nathan89]

:lol This desperation to stop Miami's dynasty is very entertaining. Dan Gilbert would give up both of his nuts to make this deal happen.


:lmao

[LkrFan]

Not if Titties leaves after 1 season with the Magic.

But why would he leave? The Magic would have his Bird rights. Meaning they can pay him more than any other team can. Money talk$. BS walks.

Besides, has Bynum's agent said he wouldn't resign (which would be financially stupid BTW) or did the media - who likes to :downspin: shit - "leaked" it?

Same scenario applies to D-12 "only playing for one team" nonsense. In the end, they all go for the money.

[Daryl Morey]

Why is Dwight any less greedy than you, Drew? He gonna leave the $30 million sitting on the table too?
I certainly don't think so.

[Andrew Bynum]

Why is Dwight any less greedy than you, Drew? He gonna leave the $30 million sitting on the table too?

Honestly it's a good point. If I were Orlando I would just keep Dwight and dare him to walk rather than take this proposed shit deal but everyone in the world knows me and my Brandon Roy knees aren't leavin a cent on the table.

[Kai]

Hey baseline or anybody that knows, Doesn't the BYC rules make this deal not possible?

[baseline bum]

I have never heard of BYC effecting sign and trades. I thought they specifically didn't take effect until 24 or 48 hours after the deal is signed to allow sign and trades. I don't know the 2011 CBA at all though; I'm going by memory from the 2005 CBA. Humphries will probably block the deal anyways. :lol

[ginobili's bald spot]

So they're supposed to want a guy who will absolutely create the exact same drama the franchise got sick of last season? They might as well just hold onto Howard and dare him to take the $30 million less in that case. If you're going to take that gamble, why take it with a glass-kneed lesser player like Bynum? Howard already showed he wouldn't take less when he waived the opt-out anyways.

Absolutely cause the same drama? Based on what exactly? That is nothing but speculation. Instead of being so easily manipulated by random tweets and rumors use common fucking sense. How much money do you really think Bynum is willing to lose? If Orlando makes that trade they deserve what they get.

[Kai]

I have never heard of BYC effecting sign and trades. I thought they specifically didn't take effect until 24 or 48 hours after the deal is signed to allow sign and trades. I don't know the 2011 CBA at all though; I'm going by memory from the 2005 CBA. Humphries will probably block the deal anyways. :lol

Base year compensation

Certain players in the first few months of a new contract are subject to base year compensation (BYC). The intent of BYC is to prevent teams from re-signing players to salaries specifically targeted to match other salaries in a trade (in other words, salary should be based on basketball value, not trade value). A BYC player's trade value as outgoing salary is 50% of his new salary, or his previous salary, whichever is greater. BYC applies only to players who re-sign with their previous team and receive a raise greater than 20%. It also applies only when (and as long as) the team is over the salary cap. Under the 2011 CBA, players subject to BYC cannot be traded before January 15 except in a sign-and-trade, and BYC is only applied to outgoing salary in sign-and-trade deals.

[baseline bum]

Bynum doesn't want to sign the extension to let the trade go through. If Orlando is going to dare Bynum to pass on the $30 million to play where he wants they might as well just keep Howard and dare him instead. Of course Bynum's not going to sign the extension when the trade is done, as he would rather kill it and sign the extension to stay in LA.

[ChrisRichards]

Valid point


Andrew Jones ‏@micromonkeyz
@johnhollinger why would magic trade anderson at $9M but covet lopez at $12M? Lopez even softer and worse rebounder?
Retweeted by John Hollinger

[Kai]

Saw this post on Magic forum:


"BYC" technically no longer exists, but it was replaced by an identical rule that only applies to S&Ted players. And since I don't know the name of that rule, I'm going to call it BYC.

Essentially, if a player is S&Ted and their new salary is greater than 125% of their previous salary, then their salary in a trade(in terms of matching salaries between teams) isn't their new salary; it's the greater of half their new salary or 125% of their old one.

So lets say the Nets wanted to S&T Brook Lopez with a new 16m contract(in reality, he legally can't get anything close to that). Ok, fine. His incoming value for Orlando, so what Orlando would have to match with, is 16m. But his outgoing salary from Brooklyn is just 8m, so they could only receive 10m in salary in return. Any more than that, and the trade is illegal.

The currently listed trade has Lopez, Gaines, Williams and James all becoming BYC players, and all of them would have to get big enough raises that their outgoing trade value would only be half of whatever their new salary is. The apparent idea is that Brooklyn would get around that by dumping a monstrously large one year deal for Humphries to Cleveland, who can use their CAP space to just absorb Humphries, but if Humphries gets more than 10m a year, HE becomes a BYC player, and then the only way they can get his outgoing value above 10m is by giving him a contract in excess of 20m, and holy **** why are people buying any of this?

[DPG21920]

Not valid - Brook is a much better player than Ryan with a much higher ceiling too. It's not about coveting Lopez; it's about no one offering ORL more cap space + draft picks for Dwight than Brooklyn because Dwight is saying he won't re-sign.

The question is what is more valuable: Bynum + no cap space or picks or Brook + unloading bad contract(s) + multiple first rounders?

[ChrisRichards]

Not sure if Lopez is better and for that matter more valuable than Ryan Anderson tbh. Lopez is a horrible rebounder for a big man but I get you point. Still, paying Brook Lopez max just because they need to deal DH to Brooklyn and to somehow make salaries match is a horrible deal. I understand you never get equal value for a Superstar in a trade but this is ridiculous. There's also not much value in those 1st rd picks, they're most likely not even a lottery pick(s).


Seriously, at this point, Orlando should just wait for a better package or fully convince Bynum or his agent that Orlando will be his team (something Bynum would want)

[HarlemHeat37]

Lopez isn't a much better player than Anderson, tbh..

Lopez is the post version of Bargnani..he doesn't play defense, he doesn't rebound, and he's soft..he's coming off an injury, and he hasn't shown any progress during his time in the NBA..

Ryan Anderson isn't special, either, but he isn't noticeably inferior to Lopez..

[baseline bum]

Not valid - Brook is a much better player than Ryan with a much higher ceiling too. It's not about coveting Lopez; it's about no one offering ORL more cap space + draft picks for Dwight than Brooklyn because Dwight is saying he won't re-sign.

The question is what is more valuable: Bynum + no cap space or picks or Brook + unloading bad contract(s) + multiple first rounders?

The question is really, what is more valuable: A Bynum who will put them through the same media circus again, Howard who will put them through the same media circus again, or soft Lopez + unloading contracts + gaining first rounders. All the option basically suck. If you're going to compare options #1 and #2, I'd much rather have #2 since at least Howard has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's about the money when he waived the opt-out.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Lopez fucking sucks. I'll believe this trade when I see it. It smells too much like bullshit to me.

[The Gemini Method]

This whole scenario is getting weary. Fuck it. I hope they'll make a deal (one way or another...) soon so I can get back to worrying about the start of the College Football season.

[Latarian Milton]

:lol people trying to convince themselves the Magic would take this trade if Bynum for Dwight was on the table. After Brook basically missed all of last season, his value is as low as ever while Bynum's value is as high as ever. In addition to the fact he's 10x the rebounder Lopez is, he's a much more efficient scorer, he actually plays defense, and he finds ways to be effective without getting tons of touches. Lopez and Bynum aren't even close in terms of value.

the fact is lakers ain't trading them bynum and brooklyn's offer might be the finest outputs they can extract from that nigga DH tbh, orlando better accept it rather than let him walk free a year later.

to make it happen, brooklyn need to sign&trade lopez/hemphris and yes, dudes will get overpaid but it ain't gonna be nothing nearly obnoxious like lewis's shitty contract. it doesn't hurt to have lopez/hemphris on your squad paying them 8-9m/yr each

[Koolaid_Man]

Not valid - Brook is a much better player than Ryan with a much higher ceiling too. It's not about coveting Lopez; it's about no one offering ORL more cap space + draft picks for Dwight than Brooklyn because Dwight is saying he won't re-sign.

The question is what is more valuable: Bynum + no cap space or picks or Brook + unloading bad contract(s) + multiple first rounders?


what good is multiple first rounders when all those picks will likely be late first rounders :lol uh ya...trade Dwight but don't expect to get high picks the Nets will be good...:lol

:lmao@multiple first rounders

[Kai]

WojYahooNBA

The Rockets refuse to give up on the Dwight Howard derby, gathering more assets to try and entice the Orlando Magic to engage in talks

[Pelicans78]

LOL thinking Brooks Lopez is MUCH better than Anderson. Lopez is just a post scorer and does nothing else well. He may be better, maybe not, but definitely not much better. DPG seems to be getting worse each day.

[Spurs9]

WojYahooNBA

The Rockets refuse to give up on the Dwight Howard derby, gathering more assets to try and entice the Orlando Magic to engage in talks

:lmao

[racm]

:lmao Morey

[Killakobe81]

WojYahooNBA

The Rockets refuse to give up on the Dwight Howard derby, gathering more assets to try and entice the Orlando Magic to engage in talks

Kool is right and why would the Magic let Brooks go to the Clips when it can be argued he has the second most upside out of all picks or players in this 4 team trade? Most of the other guys are what they ever will be. Dwight we have never seen teamed with another superstar, so maybe he shows us something if he is healthy but outside of that Brooks is the only other piece I want. Harlem is also right, Lopez has only improved marginally, Humphries has improved but is near his ceiling. :lol Orlando.

But im weary just trade him if they really do value Lopez. And if the Lakers are just bull-shitting to avoid eating Jrich's contract ... they need to shit or get off the pot. We werent winning shit last year but the trade talk crap did NOT help. Either make a deal or announce you have pulled out.

[Killakobe81]

Rox do have the best young assets (3 recent first rounders) and Im sure they are willing to offer an additional pick or Patterson. But Why would Dwight stay on a team with no other superstar when the league is Superfriending it up?!

[Venti Quattro]

And if the Lakers are just bull-shitting to avoid eating Jrich's contract ... they need to shit or get off the pot.
They probably read the gossip wire and understood that bringing in J-Rich is going to destroy the Lakers.

[Killakobe81]

Oh and Anderson is a good player. I just think some took issue with his contract. I would of loved him on the Lakers for 5-6 million per ... i wonder how much someone will overpay Lopez :lol

[Killakobe81]

They probably read the gossip wire and understood that bringing in J-Rich is going to destroy the Lakers.

Nash is gonna have so much white AND exotic pussy thrown his way he will forget the rumors Jrich banged his wife.

[Clipper Nation]

Kool is right and why would the Magic let Brooks go to the Clips when it can be argued he has the second most upside out of all picks or players in this 4 team trade?

Because they're idiots, tbh, but I'll take Brooks all day....

[Pelicans78]

Oh and Anderson is a good player. I just think some took issue with his contract. I would of loved him on the Lakers for 5-6 million per ... i wonder how much someone will overpay Lopez :lol

If you put him at PF next to Nash, Kobe, and Bynum, he would be a great complement and earn his 8.5 million.

[Pelicans78]

Marshon Brooks wasn't even good last season. Not sure why he is overrated here.

[Kai]

Rox do have the best young assets (3 recent first rounders) and Im sure they are willing to offer an additional pick or Patterson. But Why would Dwight stay on a team with no other superstar when the league is Superfriending it up?!

A) His options are stay in Houston or go play in Dallas/Atlanta for $30 million less.

B) depending on how much salary the Rockets take back, they conceiveably would have enough to both re-sign Howard and offer Paul a max contract next summer.

[ElNono]

:lol Rockets
:lol thinking they're landing Dwight
:lol #2 seed

[Koolaid_Man]

A) His options are stay in Houston or go play in Dallas/Atlanta for $30 million less.

B) depending on how much salary the Rockets take back, they conceiveably would have enough to both re-sign Howard and offer Paul a max contract next summer.

Laker Brass Hurt Dwight's Feelings :lmao they gave him a dose of reality whereas the Nets gave him a false sense of who and what he really is

- Mike asks "why won't Dwight want to come to LA?"


- Bucher says "when Dwight met with the Nets, they made him feel like the franchise. But when he spoke with the Lakers they sort of made him feel like just a normal player."

- Bucher says "when Dwight goes to a team like the Lakers, as a big man, he looks at that situation and says 'I HAVE to win a championship' because if he doesn't, he will be the only Lakers big man that hasn't win a champ, and that pressure makes Dwight hesitant esp since Kobe only has 2-3 years left."

[Budkin]

Dwight is such a fucking crybaby... his head got way too big.

[ginobili's bald spot]

What a pussy. I can't believe he would admit something like that. Makes him look pretty bad imo.

[ginobili's bald spot]

I have no idea how Howard is getting a free pass on this. Imagine if LeBron or Kobe said that they didn't wanna play somewhere because it was ":crytoo much pressure:cry" The media would be dropping shit bombs for years.

[Clipper Nation]

Imagine if LeBron or Kobe said that they didn't wanna play somewhere because it was ":crytoo much pressure:cry" The media would be dropping shit bombs for years.
Dwight didn't say that, B... the Nets just wowed him more and treated him better on his visit, tbh...

EDIT: Never mind... I saw the other quote...

[Kidd K]

lol@ that, "I'd take Anderson at 5m" crap.

If he was a GM, he'd never sign anybody worth a damn if he thinks he can get players who get 16/8 AND shoot 40% from three at 24 years old for just 5m.

You never go full retard. Don't you know that?

[baseline bum]

So basically Howard doesn't want to go to LA because Kobe is washed up? Makes sense.

[Killakobe81]

lol@ that, "I'd take Anderson at 5m" crap.

If he was a GM, he'd never sign anybody worth a damn if he thinks he can get players who get 16/8 AND shoot 40% from three at 24 years old for just 5m.

You never go full retard. Don't you know that?

You can pay 8 million, for a better rebounding Bonner. I get that you have to over pay stars. I also get sometimes you have to overplay players to put a contender over the hump. You dont pay 8 million for a role palyer when he does neither, but OK ...genius. :lmao

[pass1st]

Anyone catch Cavs not wanting any part of the deal? Looks like yet another "nearly done" deal went down the drain.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Anyone catch Cavs not wanting any part of the deal? Looks like yet another "nearly done" deal went down the drain.

It was a bullshit smokescreen like I said all along. Orlando was never going to take that shit deal. Their GM isn't as dumb as the average spurstalk mouth breather who defended that trade.

[pass1st]

It was a bullshit smokescreen like I said all along. Orlando was never going to take that shit deal. Their GM isn't as dumb as the average spurstalk mouth breather who defended that trade.

:lol I don't know why people are scared that Dwight might come to LA. Would take more than that to fix the team.

[crc21209]

:lol And you LA bitches want this cry baby. Fuck that guy....

[Killakobe81]

:lol I don't know why people are scared that Dwight might come to LA. Would take more than that to fix the team.

Dwight would not guarantee jack. He is not better than Lebron. The Heat still have better shooters and better athletes. Coaching is a wash. Dwight/Kobe/Nash should be able to get to a WCF, at least ...but Heat are still favorites no matter if Dwight goes to Lakers or Nets.

[pass1st]

:lol And you LA bitches want this cry baby. Fuck that guy....

Tbh, if he wanted to go to Spurs you would probably make some threads upstairs talking about a new Dynasty and predicting the number of Chips he'll carry TD/Parker/Manu to.

In the unlikely case that he comes to LA he would be replacing another drama queen.

[Koolaid_Man]

Dwight would not guarantee jack. He is not better than Lebron. The Heat still have better shooters and better athletes. Coaching is a wash. Dwight/Kobe/Nash should be able to get to a WCF, at least ...but Heat are still favorites no matter if Dwight goes to Lakers or Nets.

what about that wet pussy we got..you forgot about him...

and if we can add Jamison and Grant Hill to the bench..we're the clear favs IMHO

Kobe
Dwight
Nash
PAUssy
Jamison
G.Hill

[TIMMYtoZO]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Y! Sources: As time's running out on a Howard deal for Brooklyn, Brook Lopez nears agreement on max contract with Nets.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao @ the Nets!

[ChrisRichards]

Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
Orlando did not want to deal with the Nets and turned their attention to the ‪#Rockets‬ and ‪#Lakers‬

1m Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
.@WojYahooNBA confirms my tweets from earlier that the Nets are out of the mix. They're moving on without Orlando.

Man, I thought for sure Dwight is going to Brrroklyn. Didn't mean to jinx that it :lol

[Kai]

:lmao Nyets

[ChrisRichards]

Brook Lopez nears contract agreement with Nets

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets-near-contract-agreement-with-brook-lopez.html


"Once Lopez signs the deal, he can’t be traded until December"

[pass1st]

:lol Dwight's Brooklyn dream crushed
:lol Nets as retarded as Rockets
:lol Rockets wanting a 100% guaranteed rental
:lol Lakers putting too much time in a fairly lateral gamble

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol The Nets best player is a pg. We all know how well those teams pan out. Their wing players are 30 and 31. their best frontcourt player is a softie who is getting max money. IF everything goes right for the Nets, that cores ceiling is 2nd round at best.

[ChrisRichards]

:lmao Nyets
Tbh, I really want to see Dwight, Joe and Deron form their supergroup. It gives Miami a bit more challenge in the east, but I really hate Dwight at this point. I'm glad he doesn't have full control of his destiny. Orlando should trade him to Toronto for Jose Calderon and Bargnani for the lulz.

[koriwhat]

howard is a joke... all this bs is worse than bron bron pulling the media's/nba's/fan's leg during his own sideshow attraction a couple yrs back.

[ChrisRichards]

:lol Dwight's Brooklyn dream crushed
:lol Nets as retarded as Rockets
:lol Rockets wanting a 100% guaranteed rental
:lol Lakers putting too much time in a fairly lateral gamble

:lol


:lol The Nets best player is a pg. We all know how well those teams pan out. Their wing players are 30 and 31. their best frontcourt player is a softie who is getting max money. IF everything goes right for the Nets, that cores ceiling is 2nd round at best.


:lol @ Signing Brooks to a max contract.
:lol6 rpg= Max contract
:lol lockout for nothing
:lol prokhov
:lol joe johnson's 91 million contract
:lol kris humphries is better than their future center
:lol jayz

Billy King ftw :lmao

[ChrisRichards]

howard is a joke... all this bs is worse than bron bron pulling the media's/nba's/fan's leg during his own sideshow attraction a couple yrs back.
word. the decision was at least entertaining. this dwight saga is just aweful.

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol




:lol @ Signing Brooks to a max contract.
:lol6 rpg= Max contract
:lol lockout for nothing
:lol prokhov
:lol joe johnson's 91 million contract
:lol kris humphries is better than their future center
:lol jayz

Billy King ftw :lmao

:lmao I still can't believe they traded for Joe Johnson's disgusting contract. What is even funnier is Dwight opting in really fucked the Nets in the ass. :lmao:lmao

[koriwhat]

word. the decision was at least entertaining. this dwight saga is just aweful.

exactly! i don't understand howard opting-in this past season, i mean if the dude has always wanted to leave then why parade around as if you're "loyal" to the fans and the ball club when reality is you want out and you want a big contract somewhere else.

the decision was at least profitable and helped the boys & girls club but howard's debacle has done nothing but tarnish his image and is the new nba novella.

[TIMMYtoZO]

word. the decision was at least entertaining. this dwight saga is just aweful.

The donation was just about the nicest thing Lebron could have ever done. It also didn't drag for weeks and months.

[koriwhat]

fuck howard! i'm not one to give a damn about other players in the nba not on the spurs but i actually thought howard was a genuine dude and with all this hoopla, he can go suck a dick.

[ChrisRichards]

The donation was just about the nicest thing Lebron could have ever done. It also didn't drag for weeks and months.
Troof. Lebron just made it special. That was really clever on his part tbh.

[ChrisRichards]

Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
@ThatFloridaDude I can 100% tell you that he will NOT be traded to the Nets.



Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
The Lakers are willing to absorb Jason Richardson's contract and possibly one other contract (Duhon?) if the trade goes through.

:lol:lol:lol @ Lakers acquiring 2 additional toxic contracts to line up with Kobe and Gasol's 50 million.

:lol good luck when the new cba rules hit
:lol luxury tax and still wouldnt be able to beat okx
:lol panic mode

[TIMMYtoZO]

Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
@ThatFloridaDude I can 100% tell you that he will NOT be traded to the Nets.



Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
The Lakers are willing to absorb Jason Richardson's contract and possibly one other contract (Duhon?) if the trade goes through.

:lol:lol:lol @ Lakers acquiring 2 additional toxic contracts to line up with Kobe and Gasol's 50 million.

:lol good luck when the new cba rules hit
:lol luxury tax and still wouldnt be able to beat okx
:lol panic mode


:lmao Lakers are getting desperate. They are going to have an even older, slower as fuck team next season.

[ChrisRichards]

^^^:lol Nash is recruiting Grant Hill. Lakers= give us your old, tired, broke and hungry:lol

[Kai]

Who the fuck is Chad Evans?

[Clipper Nation]

Woj with the goods, tbh...


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Rockets remain strongly engaged w/ Orlando in direct talks for Dwight Howard, sources tell Y! They’ve spent little time on 3-way scenarios.

[LkrFan]

^^^:lol Nash is recruiting Grant Hill. Lakers= give us your old, tired, broke and hungry:lol

:lol

[baseline bum]

Wow, a max deal for Brooke after trading for Joe Johnson's contract? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Prohkorov is James Dolan on steroids. I mean, what's that team's ceiling? Pushing Chicago to 7 in the second round?

[Pelicans78]

They're better off dumping Lopez and getting a center who can defend and rebound and control the paint. Lopez doesn't do that. Hard to win much in this league with a soft center.

[Killakobe81]

They're better off dumping Lopez and getting a center who can defend and rebound and control the paint. Lopez doesn't do that. Hard to win much in this league with a soft center.

I dont care much for Lopez but a case can made he is a top 5-8 center (when healthy) and centers get overpaid, hell role players get overpaid ...

LOL at these owners.

My guess if Lakers do get Dwight (still a longshot) Pau gets moved that is too much money in salary, even for the Lakers unless the Buss cedes more control to his minority owners some of which are richer than Buss IIRC

LOL Heat are the champs and deserve to yuck it up on the court, but your shitty franchise won a second championship and STILL lost money.How the fuck does that happen with the best player in the game on your team?! :lol
Seriously what is with Miami and yal not appreciating the champions you have recently? Marlins had similar issues, it makes no sense.

We havent won in over 2 years and still turn a profit. scoreboard is yours and that is all that matters to me, tbh. But yet still, the Lakers can eat a JRICH contract, keep losing in the second round and STILL make money ... that's the difference.

[Pelicans78]

I don't think Lopez is a top 10 center. Off the top of my head, I have Howard, Bynum, Duncan, Chandler, Noah, Monroe, Horford, Gortat, Hibbert, Bogut, Gasol, not in any order.

[baseline bum]

I don't think Lopez is a top 10 center. Off the top of my head, I have Howard, Bynum, Duncan, Chandler, Noah, Monroe, Horford, Gortat, Hibbert, Bogut, Gasol, not in any order.

Can't say I'd take Gortat over soft Brooke, but solid list otherwise. I would take Al Jefferson over him though, so that pushes Lopez back out of the top 10.

[Lincoln]

Howard to Dallas niggas!

[Banzai]

:lol

LOL..I had a good laugh when I took a closer look at your Sig...:lmao

[LkrFan]

LOL..I had a good laugh when I took a closer look at your Sig...:lmao

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

sam amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): source confirms brooklyn has pulled out of dwight howard trade talks with orlando. Nets expected to finalize deal w/ center brook lopez now. 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/sam_amick/statuses/223143938012356608)

read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20lw0vbml

[LkrFan]

ESPN just reported that the Nets are no longer in the running for Howard!

This is not ESPN radio, this is the tv channel.

Conclusion: Nash-Kobe-Artest-Pau-D12 >>> LBJ-Wade-Bosh-Allen. :toast

[LkrFan]

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[Splits]

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Conclusion: Nash-Kobe-Artest-Pau-D12 >>> LBJ-Wade-Bosh-Allen. :toast


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