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HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 04:32 PM
The big mistake for these teams is that they overdo this lineup during the regular season. Save it for the playoffs so you don't wear down and that teams don't figure you out. Miami made the decision to go small in the playoffs and it changed everything for them.

Bill_Brasky
07-09-2012, 04:34 PM
It helps having an incredibly athletic 6'8 guy who can cover anybody.

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 04:36 PM
Yes you need to be strong in either 2 ways. Incredible athleticism and incredible shooter. Miami had both. Why be conventional when you take advantage of mismatches?

LkrFan
07-09-2012, 04:39 PM
Miami winning it all was scripted. Thats why Stern nixed the CP deal to LA. Everyone knows D-12 was the next shoe to drop. CP-Kobe-D-12 would have kicked Miami's ass. Thing is, I still think as currently constructed, Nash-Kobe-Pau-Bynum will get it done v. Miami small ball. Size always matters if you can use it. Now we have a playmaker that will ensure our size is optimized. :toast

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-09-2012, 04:43 PM
small ball was never the problem. The problem was previous "small ball" teams were teams that went small because small lineups with better shooting/floor spacing was the only way their PG-oriented offense could whore the pick and roll enough to produce efficient offense.

Plenty of teams have used small ball at key times in the playoffs. The 08 Celtics for example closed out several key games with KG at center and James Posey at PF.

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Miami winning it all was scripted. Thats why Stern nixed the CP deal to LA. Everyone knows D-12 was the next shoe to drop. CP-Kobe-D-12 would have kicked Miami's ass. Thing is, I still think as currently constructed, Nash-Kobe-Pau-Bynum will get it done v. Miami small ball. Size always matters if you can use it. Now we have a playmaker that will ensure our size is optimized. :toast
:lol Nash doesn't utilize size, he utilizes spacing. He and Pau will click well but he and Bynum won't develop chemistry any better than the chemistry he developed with Shaq.

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Without Howard, you have no chance. Bynum is too weak defensively in the interior.

LkrFan
07-09-2012, 04:51 PM
:lol Nash doesn't utilize size, he utilizes spacing. He and Pau will click well but he and Bynum won't develop chemistry any better than the chemistry he developed with Shaq.

That's a misnomer because you never really had size for him to work with. The best big he ever had didn't rebound or defend for shit. Plus he lived on the perimeter. Bynum is better than that $100M man. So is Pau.

Shaq was washed up when he went to Phoenix. Bynum has soft hands, better array of low post moves, and can shoot FTs better than the Shaq you guys had.

LkrFan
07-09-2012, 04:52 PM
Without Howard, you have no chance. Bynum is too weak defensively in the interior.

Pau started at center v. Howard in 2009. How'd that turn out? And Bynum is a better anchor than Pau.

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 04:54 PM
Pau started at center v. Howard in 2009. How'd that turn out? And Bynum is a better anchor than Pau.
Terrible comparison since Pau was in his prime and Kobe was closer to his. The Lakers are a different team now. They have no chance with such lack of speed in the interior.

Fun n Gun
07-09-2012, 04:54 PM
Who wants to watch boring,slow own,grin it out basketball? Everyone knows that fast,exciting basketball is what wins divisions.

LkrFan
07-09-2012, 04:56 PM
Terrible comparison since Pau was in his prime and Kobe was closer to his. The Lakers are a different team now. They have no chance with such lack of speed in the interior.

No. And the scary part is Bynm is 2-3 years away from his prime. Yet he's a better defensive anchor than Pau.

Bynum will shit on your frontline playing with Nash. Who's gonna stop him? Camby? :lol Anthony? :lol Bosh? LBJ? :lol Who damnit? :downspin:

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-09-2012, 04:57 PM
That's a misnomer because you never really had size for him to work with.
Amare and Shaq isn't size?


The best big he ever had didn't rebound or defend for shit.
How the hell should a big not rebounding/defending affect Nash's ability to utilize him?

Bill_Brasky
07-09-2012, 05:04 PM
Who wants to watch boring,slow own,grin it out basketball? Everyone knows that fast,exciting basketball is what wins divisions.

Sup mike

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 05:08 PM
No. And the scary part is Bynm is 2-3 years away from his prime. Yet he's a better defensive anchor than Pau.

Bynum will shit on your frontline playing with Nash. Who's gonna stop him? Camby? :lol Anthony? :lol Bosh? LBJ? :lol Who damnit? :downspin:
lol Lakers won't even get pass OKC. OKC is younger and have your number as long as Perkins neutralizes Bynum.

whitemamba
07-09-2012, 05:18 PM
lol Lakers won't even get pass OKC. OKC is younger and have your number as long as Perkins neutralizes Bynum.


:lol:lol:lol:lolperkins

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 05:19 PM
:lol:lol:lol:lolperkins
Yeah he sucks against small ball but he sure is a pain for Bynum.

whitemamba
07-09-2012, 05:20 PM
Yeah he sucks against small ball but he sure is a pain for Bynum.

a big who sucks vs a small is a shitty big.

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 05:23 PM
a big who sucks vs a small is a shitty big.
Well you are a Laker fan. And Perkins happens to guard someone he is comfortable with. Good that he sucks against my team as your team can't go small.

whitemamba
07-09-2012, 05:40 PM
Well you are a Laker fan. And Perkins happens to guard someone he is comfortable with. Good that he sucks against my team as your team can't go small.

ur talking as if perkins was the reason okc won that series, guy was fucking useless.

HeatChamps
07-09-2012, 05:41 PM
Did Bynum go off? Nope. Perkins did his job.

whitemamba
07-09-2012, 05:44 PM
Did Bynum go off? Nope. Perkins did his job.

did bynum get the ball?

Latarian Milton
07-09-2012, 06:10 PM
really no big deal what tactic to use when you have 2 of the best 3 players on the planet plus another top10 player.

Latarian Milton
07-09-2012, 06:19 PM
our small ball seemed to work out fine in the finals but don't get fooled by the ephemeral success of small ball tbh, which was due in part to the fact the OKC had no real threat at the low post.

we were just so damn good we were bound to win that shit whatever tactic we use, however, if they got some sort of a big weapon in the paint like bynum against our small lineups, we would be fucked

shit could've been much easier i think, we won that shit this year but philibeaner remains the biggest obstacle in our way to achieving continuous success. should get rid of him the soonest we can tbh

racm
07-09-2012, 06:51 PM
Small ball worked for Miami because the Thunder only had perimeter scorers. Against teams with legit offensive bigs it won't.

That's why I think Splitter would prove to be more of a headache than Perkins.

Jodelo
07-09-2012, 07:08 PM
did bynum get the ball?

Kobe played, so no...

Lakerfans jizzing all over the place because of getting Nash (same as it was with the Savior :lol). IF it does not work either, it be would hilarious!

Jodelo
07-09-2012, 07:08 PM
Small ball worked for Miami because the Thunder only had perimeter scorers. Against teams with legit offensive bigs it won't.

That's why I think Splitter would prove to be more of a headache than Perkins.

Splitter :lol

Clipper Nation
07-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Miami winning it all was scripted. Thats why Stern nixed the CP deal to LA.
Son, I detect some SERIOUS butthurt, tbh... the man who once said his dream Finals was "the Lakers vs. the Lakers" would NEVER script the league against his favorite team, B... he just also is too smart to get bent over by Mitch Kupcake at the negotiation table, unlike Dell Demps...

Josepatches_
07-09-2012, 08:31 PM
With LeBron Miami is 3-1 Vs The Lakers.

Not bad