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benefactor
07-09-2012, 07:20 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Spurs to sign forward Danny Green to three-year, $12 million, source tells Yahoo!

benefactor
07-09-2012, 07:20 PM
First real news...figured it deserved it's own thread.

CGD
07-09-2012, 07:22 PM
Excellent deal if true. Other teams should take notes.

ElNono
07-09-2012, 07:22 PM
great news :tu

Russ
07-09-2012, 07:23 PM
A bit pricey if you ask me, but gotta trust the FO's judgment.

timvp
07-09-2012, 07:23 PM
Great deal. Relatively short and avoided going over $4 million a season. :tu

Stump
07-09-2012, 07:25 PM
Given the retarded amount of money that teams are throwing around, this is a good contract.

gambit1990
07-09-2012, 07:26 PM
Great deal. Relatively short and avoided going over $4 million a season. :tu

this. i am very satisfied with the deal.

Marco
07-09-2012, 07:26 PM
Excellent news.

BatManu20
07-09-2012, 07:27 PM
Can't complain about this deal at all. Yea he played like shit in the WCF but if he left we'd have a big hole at the 2. And $4 million a year ain't breaking the bank. Goos sign. Now we need a another BIG dammit! And a good one, not some scrub. Make it happen R.C!

DPG21920
07-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Aweseom news :tu Good start to the off season. 3 years is perfect and the amount is definitely fair for what he has already proven, his upside and his risk.

benefactor
07-09-2012, 07:29 PM
Outstanding deal. Rotation SG at 4 million a year? I'll take it every time.

timvp
07-09-2012, 07:34 PM
When looking at comparables, this is more than fair. If someone like Daequan Cook got $3.75M per season from the Thunder, there's really no way to argue Green deserves less than that.

Coming into the summer, $3 million per season was about what I wanted the Spurs to give him. But after doing the research, I really couldn't argue against $4 million.

It's possible that a team would have thrown more money at him as the top shooting guards started going off the board so this was also a well-time offer by the Spurs. $4 million is still a good bargain in this market and three years is just about the perfect length.

I think looking back on it, $12 million for Danny Green age 25 thru 28 will look like good investment. At worst, he's a multipurpose swingman off the bench who can provide defense and help in a number of niche areas. At best, he builds upon what he did last year and becomes a bargain.

stephen jackson
07-09-2012, 07:35 PM
good for both sides solid deal.
he got them 3 years to grow and see how good he can get.

mosdef17
07-09-2012, 07:36 PM
Novak got 4 years and $15m. Enough said. This is a great deal. He will continue to improve.

racm
07-09-2012, 07:36 PM
The Spurs FO once more proves that it is still one of the most reasonable in the league.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4aEngDL3amg/TZU8UCi9JPI/AAAAAAAAApU/prRu_IXnskE/s1600/tumblr_lfpyhrdSQh1qed7i4o1_500.jpg

Budkin
07-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Awesome! I love the guy.

Horry For 3!
07-09-2012, 07:38 PM
I like Danny Green, glad that he re-signed.

The_Worlds_finest
07-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Good now get rid of fucking matt bonner

DesignatedT
07-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Billy Duffy, who reps @Dgreen_14, confirms 3-year, $12 mil. fully guaranteed deal; 'There were a couple other suitors and quite frankly we didn’t go very far down the runway. Danny wanted to return.'

ace3g
07-09-2012, 07:39 PM
Mike Monroe

Billy Duffy, who reps @Dgreen_14, confirms 3-year, $12 mil. fully guaranteed deal; 'There were a couple other suitors and quite frankly we didn’t go very far down the runway. Danny wanted to return.' First reported by @SpearsNBAYahoo

TMT®
07-09-2012, 07:40 PM
People still not over his performance in the WCF? It was the kid's first time playing deep in the playoffs. He can only get better, and in this system I believe he will continue to do so. Glad he's coming back. Spurs youth movement ftw.

AFBlue
07-09-2012, 07:41 PM
Perfect deal...reasonable dollars and years.

Steve-O-Matic
07-09-2012, 07:41 PM
A bit pricey if you ask me, but gotta trust the FO's judgment.
$4M/year for 3 prime years from a versatile starter who is a plus player on both ends of the court and a perfect scheme fit on one of the elite teams in the league is NOT "a bit pricey." In fact it's quite a steal.

AFBlue
07-09-2012, 07:44 PM
Is this the Center Lorbek was talking about? #supersmallball

racm
07-09-2012, 07:44 PM
FWIW, the Spurs aren't paying this money for a mere catch-and-shoot guy or an offensively challenged big.

Russ
07-09-2012, 07:44 PM
$4M/year for 3 prime years from a versatile starter who is a plus player on both ends of the court and a perfect scheme fit on one of the elite teams in the league is NOT "a bit pricey." In fact it's quite a steal.

That can only be determined if we know what other suitors were after him and for how much. I heard not a single rumor on that score.

That said, I'm glad the Spurs were able to keep (I just question the price a tiny bit).

Ross Parrot
07-09-2012, 07:45 PM
I think this is great. For a young player that just started his real starting role and playoff shot, he did real well. I agree with timvp (not because I'm gray-named) but he's entering his prime years and I'll think he can be a solid steal for us.

DesignatedT
07-09-2012, 07:45 PM
His agent said there were a couple others interested but Danny wanted to return the whole time. 4 mil a yr for him is not pricey at all. :lol if you think it is.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2012, 07:47 PM
Danny Green probably could have gotten a bit more on the open market so it does seem like he wanted to come back. I appreciate that and I hope he continues to play well as a Spur. I really do appreciate shown loyalty.

benefactor
07-09-2012, 07:47 PM
Let's not forget how the situation with Green played out...he was with the Spurs and they told him to go work on his game and come back. He comes back and puts together a solid year, showing the Spurs that he committed himself as a player and was willing to do what was necessary to help the team win.

Re-signing him was one of the easiest decisions off the offseason.

Russ
07-09-2012, 07:47 PM
His agent said there were a couple others interested . . .

Well, duh . . . :lol

ace3g
07-09-2012, 07:48 PM
Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14

Its been a wild road and I'm not done yet...but I'm a very happy man right now lol...looks like I'll b a spur for a lil while longer #GSG

Fabbs
07-09-2012, 07:49 PM
Is this the Center Lorbek was talking about? #supersmallball
:lol

yeah whoopie.

DesignatedT
07-09-2012, 07:50 PM
Well, duh . . . :lol

He could have said a lot more than a couple if that were the case.

Redshadows
07-09-2012, 07:50 PM
Good news.
Congratulation to him who was once cut and finally became a starter.

DPG21920
07-09-2012, 07:50 PM
Danny has said that he wanted to return - it's a very fair price all things considered IMO but not the most he could have received. I think between him and Kawhi the Spurs have two young, competitive and versatile players.

DesignatedT
07-09-2012, 07:50 PM
Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14
Got some unfinished business SA n I'm back to get it done....let's do it #Spurs

MannyIsGod
07-09-2012, 07:52 PM
Let's not forget how the situation with Green played out...he was with the Spurs and they told him to go work on his game and come back. He comes back and puts together a solid year, showing the Spurs that he committed himself as a player and was willing to do what was necessary to help the team win.

Re-signing him was one of the easiest decisions off the offseason.

True. One reason to expect Danny Green to continue to do well is the fact that he actually has shown to be a hard worker with drive. Good point.

benefactor
07-09-2012, 07:52 PM
Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14
Got some unfinished business SA n I'm back to get it done....let's do it

benefactor
07-09-2012, 07:52 PM
Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14
Got some unfinished business SA n I'm back to get it done....let's do it

Bruno
07-09-2012, 07:53 PM
Very good news.
$12M/3 years is a fair deal. It's nowhere near the crazy deal some mediocre FAs got this summer.

I'm curious to see how Green contract is structured. Is it the standard contract with max raises or is it different to maximize Spurs cap space in the 2013 or 2014 summer?

Now, Spurs had to wonder what to do with Neal. Trading him? Keeping him as 3rd string SG, that will barely plays? Trying him again at the PG spot?

timvp
07-09-2012, 07:53 PM
FWIW, the Spurs aren't paying this money for a mere catch-and-shoot guy

That's an important part of this. Green's bust potential is pretty low because he does a lot of things reasonably well. You can't really compare Green to players like Neal, Bonner or RMJ because he's still a useful player even if he's hitting ~36% of his three-pointers. It's a lot riskier to invest in a player who is garbage if he doesn't shoot >40% on threes.

Steve-O-Matic
07-09-2012, 07:55 PM
That can only be determined if we know what other suitors were after him and for how much.

Bullshit, all you have to do is look at the contracts of other SG's/swingmen in the league for an easy comparison. There are countless examples of vastly inferior players with no future who are making far more than $4M/year. Hell even Nick Young got $6M and he's got far fewer skills/ability than Danny Green, not to mention a horrid attitude.

ace3g
07-09-2012, 07:56 PM
Hopefully Green works on his slashing game this summer, has to finish at the rim better, he does that and it will open a lot of things for him on the court.

DesignatedT
07-09-2012, 07:57 PM
Hopefully Green works on his slashing game this summer, has to finish at the rim better, he does that and it will open a lot of things for him on the court.


Definitely. That little "floater" of his is brutal

racm
07-09-2012, 07:58 PM
If only our bigs had the work ethic of our wings!

DPG21920
07-09-2012, 07:59 PM
Very good news.
$12M/3 years is a fair deal. It's nowhere near the crazy deal some mediocre FAs got this summer.

I'm curious to see how Green contract is structured. Is it the standard contract with max raises or is it different to maximize Spurs cap space in the 2013 or 2014 summer?

Now, Spurs had to wonder what to do with Neal. Trading him? Keeping him as 3rd string SG, that will barely plays? Trying him again at the PG spot?

I guess it really depends on Nando and Patty - both if we can sign them and if they work out. Spurs might be forced to go with something that is not optimal (Neal at PG) even though they know it hasn't really worked all that well.

Spurs are in a very tough spot with decent players in Blair/Neal. It sucks that they have log jams and tough decisions at a few spots while still having a glaring need at PF.

racm
07-09-2012, 07:59 PM
Very good news.
$12M/3 years is a fair deal. It's nowhere near the crazy deal some mediocre FAs got this summer.

I'm curious to see how Green contract is structured. Is it the standard contract with max raises or is it different to maximize Spurs cap space in the 2013 or 2014 summer?

Now, Spurs had to wonder what to do with Neal. Trading him? Keeping him as 3rd string SG, that will barely plays? Trying him again at the PG spot?

Don't forget the Denmon draft. Sure, Denmon will likely be spending more time with the Toros, but everything makes me think Neal is more and more expendable. It helps he's on an expiring contract.

Duncan2177
07-09-2012, 08:02 PM
Good now lets get a bigman.

Spurs Brazil
07-09-2012, 08:02 PM
Good news

benefactor
07-09-2012, 08:04 PM
I guess it really depends on Nando and Patty - both if we can sign them and if they work out. Spurs might be forced to go with something that is not optimal (Neal at PG) even though they know it hasn't really worked all that well.

I think the Spurs wouldn't have extended the QO to Mills if they didn't want to keep him around. There has been almost no news about teams interested in him so if the Spurs can get him on a reasonable contract I'd like to see him back. With a full camp and preseason I think he can become a decent backup PG.

AFBlue
07-09-2012, 08:04 PM
Good now lets get a bigman.

Camb....oh wait.

Lorb...oh wait.

Kaman?

ace3g
07-09-2012, 08:05 PM
Jeff Zillgitt ‏@JeffZillgitt

Agent Bill Duffy on Danny Green remaining w/Spurs: "Danny has embraced the Spurs culture and developed a meaningful role."

Russ
07-09-2012, 08:05 PM
Bullshit, all you have to do is look at the contracts of other SG's/swingmen in the league for an easy comparison. There are countless examples of vastly inferior players with no future who are making far more than $4M/year. Hell even Nick Young got $6M and he's got far fewer skills/ability than Danny Green, not to mention a horrid attitude.

But it's not an abstract market as you suggest. It's not what the market should be for some theoretical player. It's what some particular team was willing to pay this player that determines whether the Spurs got a bargain or not.

We'll probably never know, but the contract certainly seems within reasonable parameters (if perhaps a bit high).

AFBlue
07-09-2012, 08:08 PM
But it's not an abstract market as you suggest. It's not what the market should be for some theoretical player. It's what some particular team was willing to pay this player that determines whether the Spurs got a bargain or not.

We'll probably never know, but the contract certainly seems within reasonable parameters (if perhaps a bit high).

:lol

You know it's a slow offseason when people are arguing if a Spurs rotation player got market or slightly above market salary.

loveforthegame
07-09-2012, 08:10 PM
Welcome back Green.

It's a very reasonable deal. :tu

ace3g
07-09-2012, 08:12 PM
Jeff Zillgitt ‏@JeffZillgitt

Duffy on Green: "He is grateful that Pop & R.C. have demonstrated this belief in him. It’s a great day for the underdog & well deserved."

Duncan2177
07-09-2012, 08:12 PM
Camb....oh wait.

Lorb...oh wait.

Kaman?

:downspin:

dunkman
07-09-2012, 08:13 PM
Should have he played well in the WCF, the price would have gone up. MLE at least.

racm
07-09-2012, 08:14 PM
He proved himself in the season. Even if he went cold in the WCF, he recognized he didn't do well at that point.

And that's one thing that makes him a good young wing.

timvp
07-09-2012, 08:14 PM
If Green doesn't go cold in the WCF and continued playing like he did in the first two rounds in the WCF and the Finals, there's no way the Spurs would have been able to re-sign him. He easily gets $6M+.















Needless to say, I'd take the ring eight days a week even if it meant losing Green forever . . .

Spurs da champs
07-09-2012, 08:17 PM
Fully guaranteed is what I don't like about the deal.

DPG21920
07-09-2012, 08:19 PM
I think the Spurs wouldn't have extended the QO to Mills if they didn't want to keep him around. There has been almost no news about teams interested in him so if the Spurs can get him on a reasonable contract I'd like to see him back. With a full camp and preseason I think he can become a decent backup PG.

Not to mention Patty is a RFA too.

dunkman
07-09-2012, 08:19 PM
It's reasonable for a starter SG, for what he showed during the season and the first two rounds. Hopefully he will improve in his second season.

The ADMIRAL 50
07-09-2012, 08:22 PM
Fully guaranteed is what I don't like about the deal.

cmon man he's in his prime and he's a loyal guy, we needa show him loyalty too. PLus its not even a big contract, its low risk. whatchutalkinboutdude

racm
07-09-2012, 08:22 PM
Yeah, wasn't last season his first season as a rotation player?

dbestpro
07-09-2012, 08:23 PM
FWIW, the Spurs aren't paying this money for a mere catch-and-shoot guy or an offensively challenged big.

That's right! You can't consider Green a big.

DPG21920
07-09-2012, 08:24 PM
Just read a great point from Drew at 48MOH for those complaining about DG's contract:

Steve Novak got 4 years/15 Million :lol

davidbowie
07-09-2012, 08:26 PM
great news. danny felt like shit after his performance these playoffs. i got a feeling he'll be back and better than ever.

racm
07-09-2012, 08:29 PM
And Novak is even more one-dimensional than Green.

At least Green gives you 3s, good D, and the occasional floater.

SenorSpur
07-09-2012, 08:35 PM
Wonderful news and a very reasonable deal for both parties.

Agree with Timvp, in that Green probably gets more money, had he not melted down during the WCF. While he lost some dollars, that probably made him more affordable.

I fully expect him to retain his starting spot and pair with Kawai to form a formidable defensive duo on the perimeter.

yavozerb
07-09-2012, 08:36 PM
Finally some good news around here...:toast

Brazil
07-09-2012, 08:42 PM
:tu awesome news ! the contract amount and duration are fair.

Libri
07-09-2012, 08:49 PM
I approve this signing. :hat

icango
07-09-2012, 09:09 PM
way to go danny, i like the kid

RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-09-2012, 09:18 PM
Very happy about this. :D

Others in the thread have already said what I want to say, but to reiterate: entering his prime coming off a major growth year, could still improve at both ends but at worst a versatile swing off the bench, and I think he'll learn a lot from the WCFs. Let's not forget that he was great in the first two rounds of the playoffs, so he's not daunted by them, just had a poor shooting series against OKC. And the fact that he was keen to return when he could have tested the market for more $ says a lot about him.

Welcome back, Danny! :toast

ace3g
07-09-2012, 09:20 PM
Manu Ginobili ‏@manuginobili

@DGreen_14 Happy to see u r coming back DG! Congrats on your deal. Very well deserved. See u soon!

rr2418
07-09-2012, 09:22 PM
Can't complain about this deal at all. Yea he played like shit in the WCF but if he left we'd have a big hole at the 2. And $4 million a year ain't breaking the bank. Goos sign. Now we need a another BIG dammit! And a good one, not some scrub. Make it happen R.C!


Name a good BIG? Who's out there?

UnWantedTheory
07-09-2012, 09:23 PM
Awesome deal. More than fair. I am glad I got some good news after a shitty day.

MI21
07-09-2012, 09:31 PM
Very good news.

He faltered big time in the WCF, but if he can even improve at a rate of 30% of what he improved during the last offeseason, the Spurs will have got an absolute bargain.

Improving his offensive game in the keyway and his defensive game navigating around screens and the Spurs will have themselves a very, very good player.

Great deal.

Duncan2177
07-09-2012, 09:34 PM
Why is everyone acting so stoked about Danny coming back?I'm happy to have him back but c'mon we all knew he was coming back it's not surprising. :rolleyes

MR.SILVER&BLack
07-09-2012, 09:37 PM
Why is everyone acting so stoked about Danny coming back?I'm happy to have him back but c'mon we all knew he was coming back it's not surprising. :rolleyes
1. the fair price he came back for

2. He could have easily been overpaid by another team with the way this offseason has been going.

Kindergarten Cop
07-09-2012, 09:38 PM
Why is everyone acting so stoked about Danny coming back?I'm happy to have him back but c'mon we all knew he was coming back it's not surprising. :rolleyes

As others have already pointed out with all of the crazy money being thrown around this offseason to players that are arguably much worse than Green, I don't think very many thought it was quite the lock that you did.

AFBlue
07-09-2012, 09:48 PM
Why is everyone acting so stoked about Danny coming back?I'm happy to have him back but c'mon we all knew he was coming back it's not surprising. :rolleyes

"We" all knew nothing, especially when GMs started handing out ridiculous contracts. And people are stoked because Danny is a good rotation player that would've been tough to replace with limited cap flexibilty.

acoelho1
07-09-2012, 09:49 PM
Perfect deal and Green hasn't reached his ceiling and will only get better in the Spurs program. I think Green could become an elite defender so we would have 2 stud defenders on the wings. Also, I think the Spurs will definitely make a move for a physical big via trade. I just can't see all those guards coming back.

racm
07-09-2012, 09:55 PM
Two good wing defenders would reduce the pressure on Duncan to protect the rim.

spurs1990
07-09-2012, 10:16 PM
Interesting tweet from JMac:

Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN
As others have reported, 3 years and $12 million for Danny Green. Not bad for a guy who didn't clear 90K last season.


Hella raise for DG.

timvp
07-09-2012, 10:17 PM
^McDonald is wrong, per usual. But yeah, it's a good story.

benefactor
07-09-2012, 10:19 PM
Methinks he left a zero off.

Sa_Spursfan20
07-09-2012, 10:20 PM
Glad to see he is coming back. I hope he can learn from last year's WCF flop and improve his game.

Danny.Zhu
07-09-2012, 10:23 PM
more than I expected

SpursFanInAustin
07-09-2012, 10:26 PM
Two good wing defenders would reduce the pressure on Duncan to protect the rim.

Another good thing is, I believe this keeps Manu and Jack coming off the bench to quarterback the second unit, and limit their minutes in the reg. season and hopefully keep them fresh for the postseason.

elemento
07-09-2012, 10:31 PM
Can't complain about it. That's a reasonable deal. A bit more than i thought (10m/3y), but Green is worth it.

In a market that gives Fields a 20m contract and gives George Hill a 40m contract, that's a bargain.

KaiRMD1
07-09-2012, 10:35 PM
Now it's time for Danny to get to work and stay hot

NickiRasgo
07-09-2012, 10:46 PM
Just woke up and it was a great news. Hopefully Diaw is next then Timmy and some additional key player. :toast

TE
07-09-2012, 11:15 PM
Glad this has happened. DG has proven to contribute, despite his shortcomings in the WCF. He's still very young, and that experience gained from last year will only pay dividends for him going forward.

Trainwreck2100
07-09-2012, 11:19 PM
he lost himself some millions in the playoffs

baseline bum
07-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Glad to see Green back. In this market I was scared he was going to get priced out of the Spurs range. Now hopefully Diaw can get reupped and the team can find a decent backup point guard.

lowdown
07-09-2012, 11:31 PM
Awesome news! Finally something positive in Spurs world - especially the the length and $ amount of the contract.

SpurPadre
07-09-2012, 11:32 PM
Well, he's no Nicolas Batum, that's for sure...but it was unrealistic of me to think we had a shot at a sign and trade to get him. And DG is a class guy, a solid shooter and a good defender...but he better not choke in next year's playoffs! Let's all be realistic about this, though: his ceiling isn't high but then again, his floor isn't that low. Good sign. Now let's get a big and get Bonner shitcanned for good, please.

Mel_13
07-09-2012, 11:32 PM
Good deal for both sides. Green and Leonard as the starting wings for combined salaries that represent about 10% of the salary cap for the next two seasons.

The George Hill trade couldn't have worked out any better. As MaNu4Tres pointed out last season, the Hill trade not only led directly to Leonard, but it created the opportunity for Green. Now the Spurs have both players for about 75% of the price for Hill alone.

DesignatedT
07-09-2012, 11:34 PM
The George Hill trade couldn't have worked out any better. As MaNu4Tres pointed out last season, the Hill trade not only led directly to Leonard, but it created the opportunity for Green. Now the Spurs have both players for about 75% of the price for Hill alone.


:tu

Duncan2177
07-09-2012, 11:35 PM
Well, he's no Nicolas Batum, that's for sure...but it was unrealistic of me to think we had a shot at a sign and trade to get him. And DG is a class guy, a solid shooter and a good defender...but he better not choke in next year's playoffs! Let's all be realistic about this, though: his ceiling isn't high but then again, his floor isn't that low. Good sign. Now let's get a big and get Bonner shitcanned for good, please.

:tu

SpurPadre
07-09-2012, 11:35 PM
Good deal for both sides. Green and Leonard as the starting wings for combined salaries that represent about 10% of the salary cap for the next two seasons.

The George Hill trade couldn't have worked out any better. As MaNu4Tres pointed out last season, the Hill trade not only led directly to Leonard, but it created the opportunity for Green. Now the Spurs have both players for about 75% of the price for Hill alone.

Damn, good post. Great way at looking at things, man. :toast

timtonymanu
07-09-2012, 11:41 PM
Great news.

I don't give a shit if he choked in the WCF. He was a a productive player last season and he deserves to be here.

baseline bum
07-09-2012, 11:43 PM
Needless to say, I'd take the ring eight days a week even if it meant losing Green forever . . .

I would have taken the ring eight days a week even if it meant losing Tony or Kawhi forever . . .

Spursfan092120
07-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Had a feeling he was staying after his tweet on July 4th..

Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14
When you ask for more when som1 is already giving, shows unappreciation...be happy with what you got/are getting

Cant_Be_Faded
07-09-2012, 11:50 PM
The Spurs FO once more proves that it is still one of the most reasonable in the league.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4aEngDL3amg/TZU8UCi9JPI/AAAAAAAAApU/prRu_IXnskE/s1600/tumblr_lfpyhrdSQh1qed7i4o1_500.jpg

lmao, rack this guy

Cant_Be_Faded
07-09-2012, 11:52 PM
Mike Monroe

Billy Duffy, who reps @Dgreen_14, confirms 3-year, $12 mil. fully guaranteed deal; 'There were a couple other suitors and quite frankly we didn’t go very far down the runway. Danny wanted to return.' First reported by @SpearsNBAYahoo

Why the hell does the lead guitarist for The Cult work as an NBA rep

TE
07-09-2012, 11:54 PM
Had a feeling he was staying after his tweet on July 4th..

Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14
When you ask for more when som1 is already giving, shows unappreciation...be happy with what you got/are getting

Gotta add...

One just has to be happy for a young journeyman-like player like DG. The past couple of years, there was probably a lot of instability surrounding his job and his inability to get a break to show what he's got.

:tu Good to see he has got paid.

Sean Cagney
07-10-2012, 12:03 AM
This is a good signing and not too much money at all. Bonner will make 3 some odd next year, so he is worth the 4.

Nathan89
07-10-2012, 12:18 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.htmlDanny Green stats

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenje02.htmlJeff Green stats

Jeff Green(9mil) and Danny Green's(4mil) per 36min stats are pretty darn similar.

Just more perspective. Oh and both are the same age. J. Green also just missed an entire season.

Great value.

therealtruth
07-10-2012, 12:21 AM
Gotta add...

One just has to be happy for a young journeyman-like player like DG. The past couple of years, there was probably a lot of instability surrounding his job and his inability to get a break to show what he's got.

:tu Good to see he has got paid.

He's got to realize that he is able to excel in the Spurs system but it's there's no guarantee he will excel elsewhere.

therealtruth
07-10-2012, 12:25 AM
The Spurs are really good at not overpaying guys and if anything getting guys to accept below market rates. There's no doubt TP and Manu could have gotten more money if they had played their careers elsewhere.

therealtruth
07-10-2012, 12:27 AM
Glad to see Green back. In this market I was scared he was going to get priced out of the Spurs range. Now hopefully Diaw can get reupped and the team can find a decent backup point guard.

I agree. I think if TJ was still playing we probably would have gotten past OKC. It always helps to have more versatility on your team.

therealtruth
07-10-2012, 12:29 AM
Just read a great point from Drew at 48MOH for those complaining about DG's contract:

Steve Novak got 4 years/15 Million :lol

Bigs tend to get paid more.

angelbelow
07-10-2012, 12:34 AM
Definitely a nice deal for him and for the Spurs. I think a lot of us were worried that he would get something around 5 million a year.

Also, FO is off to a great start. In this "overpay for players" climate, the Spurs secured another bargain deal.

timvp
07-10-2012, 12:41 AM
Some more good quotes:


“I’m very excited,” Green said. “The Spurs are really the only team I’d like to be with. Now I don’t have to worry about non-guarantees, and it’s a lot more money than I’ve played for before.”


...

“I’m ready to come back and try to contribute even more, and hopefully take care of some unfinished business,” he said, a reference to being ousted from the playoffs by Oklahoma City. “We need to finish what we didn’t finish this past year.

“I’m working on all the things I need to do, trying to get stronger in every aspect of the game and do the things they need me to do next year and be more consistent.”

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/07/09/green-staying-with-the-only-team-for-him/

Juventini
07-10-2012, 12:48 AM
To put in perspective, for those who think the deal is a bit too high. How much does Bonner get paid compare to Green?

Blackjack
07-10-2012, 01:17 AM
Bueno.

Wish Jack would've got this offer the first time around . . .

MannyIsGod
07-10-2012, 01:27 AM
bueno.

Wish jack would've taken this offer the first time around . . .

fyp

Blackjack
07-10-2012, 01:33 AM
Jack got offered 3, iirc. 3-year, 9 million. Given Jack's stature in the league and market at the time, good chance that million-dollar difference would've been enough - still bitter, admittedly.

Spurs were weary of Jarren Jackson then, just may be weary of Jack now.

MannyIsGod
07-10-2012, 01:35 AM
Given the time frame and cap differences, you could make the case the contracts are pretty similar. 9 million 10 years ago is pretty close to the 12 million now when cap differences are factored in, IMO.

MI21
07-10-2012, 01:38 AM
I wish Dan Fegan would have accepted that offer, tbh.

Blackjack
07-10-2012, 01:46 AM
Inflation, maybe. And they were after Kidd, their priorities were elsewhere - even the Hedo-Mercer trade was a pretty damn good deal at the time.

But Danny was clearly a priority. I wish Jack had been back then, and that's not hindsight. Besides the obvious talent and physical gifts, it was the attitude and fearlessness I loved - the kind of stuff Rio brought in '99 - I appreciated the hell out of that kind of play and player given the softness of the Spurs supportin cast datin back to Dave's prime.

Just hate the woulda-coulda-shoulda. I'll always be a little bitter about Jack's first go-around.

Truth4sale$
07-10-2012, 01:59 AM
Fantastic deal, considering the ridiculous monopoly money for borderline bench players like Landry Fields. Personally, I see Green making a HUGE leap next year with a full trainining camp. I believe he will continue to work his butt off because, in 3 years he will only be 28 or 29 and in his prime for the "really" big contract. Also, potentially he could be the second leading scorer in two years with the departure of Ginobili and Duncan. I can see him making the leap to 19-20pts a game in two-three years.

racm
07-10-2012, 04:34 AM
Well, he's no Nicolas Batum, that's for sure...but it was unrealistic of me to think we had a shot at a sign and trade to get him. And DG is a class guy, a solid shooter and a good defender...but he better not choke in next year's playoffs! Let's all be realistic about this, though: his ceiling isn't high but then again, his floor isn't that low. Good sign. Now let's get a big and get Bonner shitcanned for good, please.

His per 36 stats aren't too different from Batum's actually. Batum gets to the line more and shoots more 2s, but Green is better at shooting 3s and assists (although the latter is an effect of the Spurs system).


Good deal for both sides. Green and Leonard as the starting wings for combined salaries that represent about 10% of the salary cap for the next two seasons.

The George Hill trade couldn't have worked out any better. As MaNu4Tres pointed out last season, the Hill trade not only led directly to Leonard, but it created the opportunity for Green. Now the Spurs have both players for about 75% of the price for Hill alone.

That's not quite "Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and beans" level, but damn if the Spurs don't do steals in trades.


Fantastic deal, considering the ridiculous monopoly money for borderline bench players like Landry Fields. Personally, I see Green making a HUGE leap next year with a full trainining camp. I believe he will continue to work his butt off because, in 3 years he will only be 28 or 29 and in his prime for the "really" big contract. Also, potentially he could be the second leading scorer in two years with the departure of Ginobili and Duncan. I can see him making the leap to 19-20pts a game in two-three years.

I dunno, he'll probably be behind Kawhi. After 3 years his contract is up, too.

temujin
07-10-2012, 04:52 AM
Pricey.
I like Green, but he will be pricey.
I wrote and maintain that anything above $3 M /year, max 3.5, is expensive for Green.

The argument that this or that player gets payed more is non argument.

Green was pulled out of nowhere, literally.
Watching Green and Hairston (just saying, or James White, yes James White) in December, there would be no question who could make it in the NBA. Not Green.
Green played in a fantastic, near perfect Spurs system, and his stats are better just because of this; everybody knows that.
The same applies for Blair, in fact, and indeed, Spurs got no first rounder for a very cheap contract of a guy that started 64 games, despite desperately shopping him.
I doubt many teams would throw a lot of money to Green.

The real argument, here, would be: how many Greens are out there, capable to play for a near perfect system?

CGD
07-10-2012, 05:28 AM
Had a feeling he was staying after his tweet on July 4th..

Danny Green ‏@DGreen_14
When you ask for more when som1 is already giving, shows unappreciation...be happy with what you got/are getting

I'm glad the guy is humble and all, but this is naive. It may not apply to Danny in this case, but boy do players get pimped out so hard in so many other ways... Im of the opinion that $29m/4yrs is a STEAL for Jeremy Lin if you are the NEW YORK Knicks.

smaka
07-10-2012, 06:05 AM
About his choking in WCF... I think we all would rather take a ring, if it meant Green would leave. But we got no ring, so it's actually better for us that Danny wasn't playing above average in WCF. If he did, there is no way we could have got him for 12/3, especially not in those crazy times at the market, where Fields is getting 20M, Asik 25 etc.

I'm happy we kept him, I believe he will come back even better.

racm
07-10-2012, 06:08 AM
Can I ask why the Spurs offer good contracts?

Bonner IS overpaid for a playoff choker but is still on a small contract.

SenorSpur
07-10-2012, 07:42 AM
Can I ask why the Spurs offer good contracts?

Bonner IS overpaid for a playoff choker but is still on a small contract.

Bonner would be overpaid if he made the veteran's minimum.

100%duncan
07-10-2012, 07:51 AM
Better not shit the playoffs again
I saaaiiiid

naico
07-10-2012, 07:52 AM
Say what you want but Green is a classy down to earth guy :tu

K-State Spur
07-10-2012, 08:02 AM
Jack got offered 3, iirc. 3-year, 9 million. Given Jack's stature in the league and market at the time, good chance that million-dollar difference would've been enough - still bitter, admittedly.


Well, it was the best offer made to Jack that offseason - he elected for a short term deal instead to raise his profile, and that worked.

But, whether it's Jack, or Green, or Parker, or Manu - the Spurs aren't going to bid against themselves. That is pretty much a staple of the organization.

Keepin' it real
07-10-2012, 08:03 AM
Say what you want but Green is a classy down to earth guy :tu

So is Bonner. What's your point?

spurspokesman
07-10-2012, 08:03 AM
Bonner would be overpaid if he made the veteran's minimum.
Lighten up on the ginger Senor:lmao

Trill Clinton
07-10-2012, 08:05 AM
hell yea, happy to have D Green back. I didn't think it was going to happen.

urunobili
07-10-2012, 09:02 AM
Thank you Spurs FO for getting this done :tu

xmas1997
07-10-2012, 09:10 AM
Ok, next step, Lorbek.

Russ
07-10-2012, 09:21 AM
Ok, next step, Lorbek.

Or the real pipe dream, if only . . .

Rashard Lewis! :flag:

dylankerouac
07-10-2012, 09:29 AM
Excellent move by the Spurs FO and Danny Green.

dbestpro
07-10-2012, 09:41 AM
This is okay as long as Manu is on the team. Once Manu retires, Green cannot carry the position as a normal starter and should be traded at that time to acquire an upgrade.

racm
07-10-2012, 09:46 AM
That's contingent on Green developing moves off the dribble. Manu is a once every generation player, so replacing him is tough work, to put it simply.

crc21209
07-10-2012, 11:02 AM
Awesome deal. :tu Danny was one of my favorite Spurs this past season and I'm happy he's coming back.

Spurtacus
07-10-2012, 11:19 AM
Good deal. Fully guaranteed worries me a bit though. Hopefully his game doesn't slide since he got his big payday.

timvp
07-10-2012, 12:38 PM
I've just been told that Green's contract is actually less than $12 million. :wow

Spurtacus
07-10-2012, 12:45 PM
I've just been told that Green's contract is actually less than $12 million. :wow

ESPN reported 11.3

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8147590/2012-nba-free-agency-tim-duncan-san-antonio-spurs-reportedly-agree-3-year-deal

timvp
07-10-2012, 12:48 PM
ESPN reported 11.3

:tu Good find.

That means the contract could start (or end) as low as $3.5M.

So the Spurs actually re-signed Green for Daequan Cook money? Pretty amazing, tbh.

HarlemHeat37
07-10-2012, 12:49 PM
Green is by far the most overrated player on SpursTalk, his upside is limited, but I have no complaints about the terms of the deal, it's a favorable contract for a good 7th-8th man on a top team, which is Green's ideal role..

crc21209
07-10-2012, 12:49 PM
:tu Good find.

That means the contract could start (or end) as low as $3.5M.

So the Spurs actually re-signed Green for Daequan Cook money? Pretty amazing, tbh.

Amazing, indeed. Especially in this crazy off-season of handing out crazy contracts to unproven players....

loveforthegame
07-10-2012, 12:50 PM
The news gets even better. :tu

Brazil
07-10-2012, 01:10 PM
good, solid, lateral move.

:lol pinked

therealtruth
07-10-2012, 08:04 PM
:tu Good find.

That means the contract could start (or end) as low as $3.5M.

So the Spurs actually re-signed Green for Daequan Cook money? Pretty amazing, tbh.

Getting Diaw to resign for 4.5 mil seems impressive as well. He's making Bonner money and he's going to be a starter.

Shabazz
07-11-2012, 02:15 AM
I'm so happy for Danny. He's been through a lot personally the last 5 years. But he never let it alter his work ethic.

temujin
07-11-2012, 03:14 AM
:tu Good find.

That means the contract could start (or end) as low as $3.5M.

So the Spurs actually re-signed Green for Daequan Cook money? Pretty amazing, tbh.

Ah OK, it's 3.5 now?
Good to know I lost my evaluation touch only with De Colo's contract.

spurs1990
07-11-2012, 03:24 AM
Green is by far the most overrated player on SpursTalk, his upside is limited, but I have no complaints about the terms of the deal, it's a favorable contract for a good 7th-8th man on a top team, which is Green's ideal role..

He may be overrated starting next year, but in terms of the 11-12 season, I don't think there were 5 players in the NBA who were both starters and on minimum/non-guaranteed contracts. If Green was the only one that wouldn't surprise me.

On top of that he was contributing mightily to the best team in the NBA (during the 48-7 run).

Lastly, as others have mentioned on this thread, had he held up in the WCF and beyond, the Spurs probably wouldn't have the cap room to bring him back.

ace3g
07-11-2012, 04:54 PM
Press Release:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/120711_green

dylankerouac
07-11-2012, 10:26 PM
Anyone know what Green is doing this summer? I wonder what he is working on.