Best bang for buck?

[TD 21]

All of the deals are good, but to play devil's advocate: Duncan, by the second and third years in particular, could fall off a cliff; Green could be a one year wonder; Mills could be a career third stringer; De Colo could be a bust. I don't see that type of downside with Diaw over the life of his contract, which is why I'm going with him. Motivation won't be an issue with him on this team or with the potential to cash in long term a year from now.

[Mel_13]

Yeah, contract year Boris for 4.5M is a very safe bet.

[ElNono]

Except for Tim who has a no-trade clause, they're all reasonable contracts you could trade down the road, IMO...

[angelbelow]

Agreed on Diaw. Was expecting him to get the full MLE, especially after the Lorbek talk fell through.

[Andthentherewas21]

All of the deals are good, but to play devil's advocate: Duncan, by the second and third years in particular, could fall off a cliff; Green could be a one year wonder; Mills could be a career third stringer; De Colo could be a bust. I don't see that type of downside with Diaw over the life of his contract, which is why I'm going with him. Motivation won't be an issue with him on this team or with the potential to cash in long term a year from now.

To play devil's advocate to your devil's advocate on Diaw, the Bobcats would say motivation is always a potential issue with Diaw, even on the short contract.

Now that being said, with Parker on the team and the fact the Spurs always have an outside shot at winning it all, I think were safe.

[AFBlue]

Went with Green. I'm going to say his upside, while not great, is actually the safest bet to be realized. I love Diaw's versatility, but he's not going to change into an offensive juggernaut despite the plethora of skills. Mills won't get enough burn backing up Parker and De Colo may have trouble adjusting to NBA length and athleticism.

Green is a high-character, hard-working and intelligent player. He's no going to be an all-star, but I think modest improvement in overall skill and team play should be expected with another year in the system.

[AFBlue]

One more note...Duncan of this year is the best value at $12M and I hope he can keep it up for the life of the contract, but 80-100 games a year in this hyper-athletic uptempo league is going to take its toll.

[Kidd K]

Could've posted their current deals. :P


I think Green could end up being really good. He was mediocre in 2010, but really took a huge jump up in ability last season. I was very impressed. I don't expect the same level of improvement, but if he could get even better, that's going to be a very nice deal.

I don't know how much Mills or De Colo are going to make though, so I can't really decide if those are poor deals.

Diaw's coming in at a bargain, but not by a lot. Maybe 1m underpaid. You have to wonder if his conditioning will improve or worsen. Not to mention he was missing open shots late in the playoffs last year. He's going to need to improve his scoring efficiency to be considered a deal to me.

I think Duncan's deal is good if you think about how much other "lifetime players" for teams in other sports get. . .look at Derek Jeter for example. Duncan was going to get paid, and I think he's honestly getting less than I thought he was going to be getting (I assumed somewhere around $15m/year instead).

If you compare and contrast him to other PFs around the NBA, 11m is actually a pretty good bargain. Boozer is getting 15m a year. Amar'e is getting 20m+ a year. Bosh is getting 18m a year. Being as unbiased as possible, I think Duncan is better than Boozer right now, at least as good as Bosh if not a little better (factoring defense, screens, and leadership too, not just offense), and Amar'e is certainly not even close to being twice as good as Duncan (salary is double Duncan's).

So his deal, market-wise, is actually very fair for the Spurs. He's technically discounted by about 2-4m depending on differing intelligent opinions.

[Drom John]

Most bang, Duncan, last year 5.9 WS, next year suspect a downgrade. Howzabout 5.8.

Best bang for buck, Green, last year 4.5 WS, next year about the same.

But see Mills, last year .9 WS in partial season, expect increase if just from being around the whole season, and divided by few bucks. Hmm, I voted for Green too fast.

Wild card, De Colo.

[TDMVPDPOY]

To play devil's advocate to your devil's advocate on Diaw, the Bobcats would say motivation is always a potential issue with Diaw, even on the short contract.

Now that being said, with Parker on the team and the fact the Spurs always have an outside shot at winning it all, I think were safe.

dont think motivation is the issue, diaw, wallace and jax put the bobcats in the playoffs when they actually had a good roster, only for management to break up the team clearing capspace and tankn the last few seasons....

[-21-]

Each one was good but I'd say Diaw. He wasn't in shape and had to adjust on the fly (even though they use the Spurs system on the FNT) but he was still a great fit. Hopefully he will get in better shape and play hard for another contract.

[TD 21]

To play devil's advocate to your devil's advocate on Diaw, the Bobcats would say motivation is always a potential issue with Diaw, even on the short contract.

Now that being said, with Parker on the team and the fact the Spurs always have an outside shot at winning it all, I think were safe.

Yeah, but he's basically in a contract year (or at least, has the potential to be) and at his age, he's only going to get, at most, one more lucrative, long term contract. Throw in the fact that he was basically thrown a lifeline by the Spurs and the fact that he's best friends with Parker and motivation is not going to be an issue. Not maybe, not probably won't be; won't be.

AFBlue, not that he couldn't overtake him at some point, but why do you think De Colo is going to be the primary backup over Mills? I don't see any reason to think it's not clearly Mills' job to lose.

[AFBlue]

AFBlue, not that he couldn't overtake him at some point, but why do you think De Colo is going to be the primary backup over Mills? I don't see any reason to think it's not clearly Mills' job to lose.

I didn't actually say that. I said that Mills wouldn't get enough burn because he's backing up Parker...that's 12-14 minutes per game if he has a set role carved out. Add that De Colo could take away some backup PG minutes as you suggest and his production becomes even murkier to project.