The Cornerstone is BACK, sons!

[Clipper Nation]

Ric Bucher ‏@RicBucher
Source: Hornets not scared off by Gordon’s comments, will match Suns’ 4-year, $58million offer and plan to keep him. No S&T.

[Pelicans78]

Bucher also predicted today that Gordon would be traded. He needs to make his mind up.

But he's late just like his buddy Broussard. NOLA Times Picayune announced earlier today that they would match

[Latarian Milton]

NO will definitely match and they'll trade his ass straight away for the right price. most NO fans will be surprised to ever see him suiting up again in hornets jersey tbh, he's now the most hated n!gger in the new orleans - baton rouge metropolis

[Pelicans78]

NO will definitely match and they'll trade his ass straight away for the right price. most NO fans will be surprised to ever see him suiting up again in hornets jersey tbh, he's now the most hated n!gger in the new orleans - baton rouge metropolis

They can't trade him for a year without his approval and he can't be traded to the Suns if they match.

[Latarian Milton]

it ain't gonna be a problem to get his consent since he's unwilling to play there anymore, and even with suns off the list you still have a number of teams (dallas included) who would pay max for his service. at least you'll be awarded a trade exception if he ends up walking via a S&T deal, instead of getting nothing at all if you don't match

[spursfan1000]

If they could get gortat for Gordon , or a couple picks for Gordon that would be nice.

[The Gemini Method]

BR will be thrilled with this news...

[weebo]

What happens if the Hornets match and no one wants to trade for him? Are the Hornets stuck with a disgruntled player for the rest of eternity?

[da_suns_fan]

So basically they learned from the Suns' mistake with Joe Johnson.

Douchebags (suns FO, not NOH).

[Latarian Milton]

^ losing JJ ain't a mistake for them suns they just got bad luck that the pick they received from atlanta fizzled into nothing. JJ is a decent player but phoenix couldn't afford the $ he demanded anyways, and his contract is one of the worst in NBA today. :lol brooklyn trading all their expiring shits for one garbage contract rather than Dwight Howard

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Giving Shawn Marion a max deal and letting JJ leave was the mistake. JJ was the 3rd option Phoenix needed Marion to be in 2007.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol brooklyn trading all their expiring shits for one garbage contract rather than Dwight Howard
If they don't do that trade, they don't keep Deron Williams, and then we'd REALLY be laughing at the Nets, B...

[Kai]

Sucks for the Suns, but I'm sure they expected it.

[Latarian Milton]

If they don't do that trade, they don't keep Deron Williams, and then we'd REALLY be laughing at the Nets, B...

they're fucked either way, if they didn't buy the shitty stock in the form of Joe Johnson they would have some flexibility in finance at the very lease. they ain't winning shit with the malformed squad that they have, not to say Deron is also overpaid to some extent. the nets are a shitty franchise after all

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

time to get some

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[phoenix219]

Giving Shawn Marion a max deal and letting JJ leave was the mistake. JJ was the 3rd option Phoenix needed Marion to be in 2007.

Joe Johnson played at a high level for one full season in Phoenix previously. He had been so inconsistent that we could have locked him down the previous season much cheaper but didn't, and spent on QRich instead. We had no clue the team was going to be that good, or if JJ was going to keep up that level of production. By the time the actual contract happened, Sarver had pretty much told him to go see what kind of offers he got and that we'd match. We had no idea he was going to get a crazy frontloaded offer from Atlanta. By that point, Joe knew that he didn't want to be a 3rd or 4th option on the team, and I almost remember there being concerns that he was looking off Stoudemire purposefully. By the end of it, he made it clear he wanted to leave, and Atlanta made sure we coudln't afford it. As it is, the draft pick almost got us Noah, and Diaw was almost a steal - of course, not wanting to lose him like we did JJ, we give him a nice deal and he gets fat and lazy. So close, yet so far away... :P

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

My bigger gripe is with Shawn Marion getting a max deal. It was a horrible contract that doesn't get the blame it deserves. Shawn Marion couldn't dribble a basketball with his left hand or consistently making wide open shots, he wasn't in any way worth the grotesque deal Colangelo gave him.

[ElNono]

My bigger gripe is with Shawn Marion getting a max deal. It was a horrible contract that doesn't get the blame it deserves. Shawn Marion couldn't dribble a basketball with his left hand or consistently making wide open shots, he wasn't in any way worth the grotesque deal Colangelo gave him.

Plus it contributed to grow his ego, eventually causing him to request a trade because he didn't get enough touches :cry

[da_suns_fan]

Better narrative:

Stephon Marbury gets traded halfway through 03-04 season and Joe Johnson FINALLY shows what the coaches had been talking about. For two years they said he was stellar in practice but couldnt find his role playing along side Marbury and Penny Hardaway. Finishes the second half of the season on a tear. Agent wants 6 years/50 million. Sarver says no.

At the start of the 04-05 season, Joe Johnson Q-Rich were labeled as "twin bombers". But as the season went on, it became clear that Joe Johnson was a far superior to Q-Rich and the Suns had a top 30 player going into free agency.

In the Summer of 05, Ray Allen and Michael Redd got 90 million dollar extensions playing the same position. The Hawks gave Johnson a 5 year, 70 million dollar contract which is basically the same as the 4 year, 58 million dollar deal the Suns are offering Gordon. Except Gordon is four inches shorter.

Joe Johnson says he's upset with Suns saying they'll match ANY offer yet only offer him a 6/60 million dollar deal. Says he felt like they were trying to drive his price down by threatening to match. Says if they DO match Atlanta offer, he'll go back to Phoenix and be a complete professional. NEVER quoted as saying he didnt want to be 3rd or 4th option or that he wanted to "be the man". In fact goes out of his way in interviews to say that wasnt true. THAT WAS ALL SPIN BY SARVER CAMP.

Sarver goes on radio and states that he picked the 6/60 deal by looking around the league and basing it off what Nash and Manu Ginobili were making (two players who, at the time, had the best bang-for-buck contracts in the league).

Suns do sign-and-trade. Suns lose Johnson's isolations which was one of their best half court options. Suns struggle in half court games against Spurs. Shawn Marion becomes irrelevant against Spurs.

Eight years later, Joe Johnson has been given his second max contract and the Suns have no SG except Josh Childress.

[phoenix219]

Shawn Marion got the contract before the start of the 2002 season. The previous season, he gave the Suns their first legit 20/10 threat in years, while shooting 47% (almost 40% from 3 and almost .90% from the line), while adding 2 assists, 2 steals and a block a game, while missing only 1 game. The next couple years he put up pretty much identical numbers and totally seemed worth the contract. After the McDyess fiasco, Phoenix wasn't about to let him get away. Again, no one knew he was going to stop growing as a player, or start squabbling with Stoudemire, or get as insecure as he did. When he got the contract, we didn't even have Stoudemire or Johnson yet. Marion was always the better defender, and put up his numbers regardless of which style PG was feeding him. Honestly, if we traded Amare for Garnett and kept Marion (rather than offering Marion but balking at Stoudemire), we win a couple titles.

[phoenix219]

Atlanta frontloaded the contract so that we couldn't match it. He may have stated that he would come back and be a professional, but he also made it clear that he wanted to go to Atlanta and be the man on his own team. You're 100% that he looked like a deer in the headlights until Penny was traded. We had no idea what his true worth was going to end up being. The contract we didn't offer him looks great in retrospect, but at the time it was a giant gamble, considering the money already tied up in Nash, Marion and QRich, and Amare's extension coming up.

JD is more of a 2 than Childress. Childress can't shoot.

[Clipper Nation]

It gets better... Hornets are gonna sign and trade BR's boy Bellinelli to them Clippers for Ryan Gomes and a pick...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Great deal for the Hornets....they keep The Cornerstone and get rid of an Italian chucker. They big question is how long it takes for them to figure out Rivers isn't a point guard.

[Clipper Nation]

Great deal for the Hornets....they keep The Cornerstone and get rid of an Italian chucker.
The Lakers should follow suit and dump their Italian chucker, tbh.....

[BRHornet45]

"The Cornerstone"??? ... son more like "The Kidney Stone" because that is exactly what he is to an NBA franchise.

[da_suns_fan]

Suns have officially signed him to offer sheet.

Now NOLA can match and the Suns' FO will look bad...again.

Oh well...was worth a shot.

[Pelicans78]

Hornets will wait 3 days to match him. They cleared cap room by dumping Jack today and will try to acquire someone else before matching Gordon. Suns better hope Mayo doesn't sign elsewhere in the meantime because the Hornets will take their time in matching Gordon. They want to acquire another center.

I didn't like the Rivers pick. I think he sucks, but he's gonna be the backup PG to Vasquez this season. I would have preferred Terrence Jones, Jeremy Lamb, or Meyers Leonard.

[Jeremy]

There's something fishy about this whole thing, and everything that's been said and not said/done today. I'm predicting right now that NO will not match.

[Pelicans78]

There's something fishy about this whole thing, and everything that's been said and not said/done today. I'm predicting right now that NO will not match.

Hornets are making other moves before they sign Gordon. If they match Gordon now then they can't sign other guys. They still need a center. That's why they dumped Jack's contract. They're gonna wait and sign Gordon at the end.

[Latarian Milton]

NO should've demanded some extra picks from clippers instead of this little bitchass N|GGER tbh

[Jeremy]

Hornets are making other moves before they sign Gordon. If they match Gordon now then they can't sign other guys. They still need a center. That's why they dumped Jack's contract. They're gonna wait and sign Gordon at the end.

Yeah, but I just don't buy that. If he's the future of your franchise, you aggressively make that obvious. You don't say "no comment" and hold off on matching. And even if they do hope to sign someone else first, Gordon still has a cap hold in the meantime.

We'll see who's right within 60 hours.

[Pelicans78]

Yeah, but I just don't buy that. If he's the future of your franchise, you aggressively make that obvious. You don't say "no comment" and hold off on matching. And even if they do hope to sign someone else first, Gordon still has a cap hold in the meantime.

We'll see who's right within 60 hours.

Hornets won't let him go for free. A sign and trade can't be done now so they have no choice but to match. But if they match him now, they can't sign other players, he's gonna have to wait.