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Avante
07-11-2012, 04:29 AM
Lions beat the Rams in week one

We will hear...he has world class speed...when talking about RGIII

The Buffalo Bills won't win the AFC

The Oakland Raiders will lose a game because of stupidity

Peyton Manning will not be the same QB

Jerry Jones will be seen yucking it up with a Cowboy lead only to end up crashing and burning

Reggie Bush will not lead the league in rushing

We will hear about how long Ray Lewis has been in the league

The Niners will win the west

Cam Newton will be even better

Brian Quick with the Rams will make an impact

We will hear..."check out those guns"..when talking about rookie running back Robert Turbin with the Seahawks

Tim Tebow will start a few games because Sanchez is sucking, then Tebow will suck even worst and back comes Sanchez

The Texans win their division

Andrew Luck will shine, the Colts won't

Trent Richardson will knock at least one backer out of the game

Clipper Nation
07-11-2012, 10:11 AM
Avante will still welch on bets and consistently bring the shameless bads...

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-11-2012, 10:39 AM
Wow, you're really going out on a limb with those predictions

Avante
07-11-2012, 11:40 AM
Avante will still welch on bets and consistently bring the shameless bads...

Still lost:rolleyes

J.T.
07-11-2012, 12:01 PM
Andrew Luck will shine, the Colts won't


The Colts won't shine, but nobody should expect them to. They were the worst team in the NFL last year, and they just lost the greatest quarterback of all-time. I'm expecting them to finish 2nd in the division this year as I don't think they are as bad as they were last season after this draft. They are also no longer playing the worthless Tampa 2 defense which seemed to require all of their corners to play 10 yds off their man at all times.

Not to mention the coaching regime change has to be a net plus. Jim Caldwell had a losing record as a head coach in the NCAA and took the Colts to the Super Bowl (and could have had them there at 18-0 if he wanted to). I'm excited to see what Pagano can do, he only has legit NFL experience as a defensive backs coach and defensive coordinator and his team made it to within a dropped TD pass of appearing in the past Super Bowl. He is unproven as a head coach but I like the NFL experience on the resume as opposed to just getting the job because Tony Dungy named you the successor. 6-10, 7-9 for this team isn't impossible and I think people will underestimate Luck and Fleener's chemistry early on as that combo carries over to the pros.

Avante
07-11-2012, 01:37 PM
The Colts won't shine, but nobody should expect them to. They were the worst team in the NFL last year, and they just lost the greatest quarterback of all-time. I'm expecting them to finish 2nd in the division this year as I don't think they are as bad as they were last season after this draft. They are also no longer playing the worthless Tampa 2 defense which seemed to require all of their corners to play 10 yds off their man at all times.

Not to mention the coaching regime change has to be a net plus. Jim Caldwell had a losing record as a head coach in the NCAA and took the Colts to the Super Bowl (and could have had them there at 18-0 if he wanted to). I'm excited to see what Pagano can do, he only has legit NFL experience as a defensive backs coach and defensive coordinator and his team made it to within a dropped TD pass of appearing in the past Super Bowl. He is unproven as a head coach but I like the NFL experience on the resume as opposed to just getting the job because Tony Dungy named you the successor. 6-10, 7-9 for this team isn't impossible and I think people will underestimate Luck and Fleener's chemistry early on as that combo carries over to the pros.

Good stuff JT, now lets look at their schedule.

at Chicago...loss
Minnesota..win
Jacksonville...win
Green Bay...loss
at Jets...loss
Cleveland...win
at Tenn...loss
Miami..win
at Jacksonville...loss
at New England...loss
Buffalo...loss
at Detroit...loss
Tennessee..win
at Houston..loss
at KC..hmmm?
Houston..loss

I got..6?-10

J.T.
07-11-2012, 05:23 PM
I'm gunning for the Colts to keep Houston shut out in Indy. They did it with Dan Orlovsky at QB last season (although Texans did have injury problems for that game). At the same time though it's their last game of the year, and beating Houston at home before going into the offseason would be a key building block for that offense. The most talented roster isn't always the one that wins big games in the NFL, it's the one that executes the best and takes advantage of the situations the game puts them in. I'm hoping this next era of Colts teams is better at that, the last one put all the weight on Manning's shoulders and it broke his neck.

I'm expecting the Colts defense to be a little better this year, but that will be what loses them games this year. Last year it was trying to run Peyton Manning's offense without Peyton Manning at QB.

Avante
07-11-2012, 09:22 PM
I'm gunning for the Colts to keep Houston shut out in Indy. They did it with Dan Orlovsky at QB last season (although Texans did have injury problems for that game). At the same time though it's their last game of the year, and beating Houston at home before going into the offseason would be a key building block for that offense. The most talented roster isn't always the one that wins big games in the NFL, it's the one that executes the best and takes advantage of the situations the game puts them in. I'm hoping this next era of Colts teams is better at that, the last one put all the weight on Manning's shoulders and it broke his neck.

I'm expecting the Colts defense to be a little better this year, but that will be what loses them games this year. Last year it was trying to run Peyton Manning's offense without Peyton Manning at QB.

It's going to take them a couple more drafts/free agents before they are any kind of a legit threat. Right now everyone wishs they played them.

J.T.
07-12-2012, 07:56 AM
It's going to take them a couple more drafts/free agents before they are any kind of a legit threat. Right now everyone wishs they played them.

I know that, their defensive back situation is pretty terrible outside of Antoine Bethea, who has been racking up 100+ combined tackles from the safety position a few years running now. That's insane for a safety, but it also speaks volumes about the front seven of your defense. Your safeties should not be stacking up tackles like that, they should be making plays or more specifically, preventing the other team's skilled wideouts from making plays.

I'm just saying from the standpoint of a team that is trying to return to a culture of greatness and winning, that last game against Houston at home in Indy has to be circled at this point. It is for me anyway. As a young team that is trying to reload its roster with fresh talent, that's the last game of the year. By then Luck should have a good idea of what to expect from NFL defenses and will most importantly be playing a team for the second time, meaning we'll get to see how he adjusts and prepares for them. Fair or not, Colts fans were spoiled by Manning and that's the guy everyone will always compare Luck to, not RG3. I fully expect Indy to return to the playoffs by the 2014 season at latest. If not then they shouldn't have tanked for Luck (and they did in a couple of games, no doubt) and allowed Manning to finish his career with the team that drafted him, as he probably wanted.

I just have more faith in that team than most others do. I don't think they're as bad as they showed last year, a lot of that was just demotivation because Manning wasn't there and utter lack of preparation to deal with that situation. They had just come off an uncharacteristic training camp and preseason due to the lockout business and Manning was ruled out with little time to sign a solid backup and prepare for that. It was just an overall poorly managed situation. They can't be anything close to that bad again with a regime change that promotes more openness between staff, a QB with actual talent and some solid offensive weapons (I think T.Y. Hilton is going to surprise some folks). You're right that nobody should be afraid of playing these guys right now, but this team is primed to develop nicely as long as injuries don't derail the team.

gaKNOW!blee
07-12-2012, 10:03 AM
100 tackles is not insane for a safety when he plays on a shitty defense. It's quite common.

Avante
07-12-2012, 10:30 AM
I know that, their defensive back situation is pretty terrible outside of Antoine Bethea, who has been racking up 100+ combined tackles from the safety position a few years running now. That's insane for a safety, but it also speaks volumes about the front seven of your defense. Your safeties should not be stacking up tackles like that, they should be making plays or more specifically, preventing the other team's skilled wideouts from making plays.

I'm just saying from the standpoint of a team that is trying to return to a culture of greatness and winning, that last game against Houston at home in Indy has to be circled at this point. It is for me anyway. As a young team that is trying to reload its roster with fresh talent, that's the last game of the year. By then Luck should have a good idea of what to expect from NFL defenses and will most importantly be playing a team for the second time, meaning we'll get to see how he adjusts and prepares for them. Fair or not, Colts fans were spoiled by Manning and that's the guy everyone will always compare Luck to, not RG3. I fully expect Indy to return to the playoffs by the 2014 season at latest. If not then they shouldn't have tanked for Luck (and they did in a couple of games, no doubt) and allowed Manning to finish his career with the team that drafted him, as he probably wanted.

I just have more faith in that team than most others do. I don't think they're as bad as they showed last year, a lot of that was just demotivation because Manning wasn't there and utter lack of preparation to deal with that situation. They had just come off an uncharacteristic training camp and preseason due to the lockout business and Manning was ruled out with little time to sign a solid backup and prepare for that. It was just an overall poorly managed situation. They can't be anything close to that bad again with a regime change that promotes more openness between staff, a QB with actual talent and some solid offensive weapons (I think T.Y. Hilton is going to surprise some folks). You're right that nobody should be afraid of playing these guys right now, but this team is primed to develop nicely as long as injuries don't derail the team.

Great to see someone who knows their stuff, I'm with you on all of that.

I picked up on T.Y.Hilton a couple years ago, as we coming out of FI he didn't get the respect that he deserves. In a word...dynamic...another one of those make up miss, gone!!!

I don't know how far back you go but imagine a Colt offense with a Hall of Fame, QB (Unitas) RB (Lenny Moore the first great receiving back) WR (Ray Berry) and TE (John Macky).

DeadlyDynasty
07-12-2012, 10:54 AM
:lolthinking the Bills won't win the AFC...you fucking peasant

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-12-2012, 11:06 AM
100 tackles is not insane for a safety when he plays on a shitty defense. It's quite common.
I think JT's point was that there's a major problem with the defense when the safety is racking up so many tackles. Especially when it's a free safety like Bethea.

Avante
07-12-2012, 11:22 AM
:lolthinking the Bills won't win the AFC...you fucking peasant

Did I not say...Guarantee/Stonecold Lock? I don't..think...they won't win the AFC I know they won't.

Oh yeah, don't be calling me fucking names mutherfucker, I'll reach thru this monitor and knock that pin head of yours right off that pencil neck, got that fucker?

DeadlyDynasty
07-12-2012, 11:34 AM
Did I not say...Guarantee/Stonecold Lock? I don't..think...they won't win the AFC I know they won't.

Oh yeah, don't be calling me fucking names mutherfucker, I'll reach thru this monitor and knock that pin head of yours right off that pencil neck, got that fucker?

Wow, are there only children on this site?

Sheesh!

Avante
07-12-2012, 11:39 AM
Wow, are there only children on this site?

Sheesh!

You throw a punch I hit back and now it's.....:rolleyes

benefactor
07-12-2012, 11:46 AM
Oh yeah, don't be calling me fucking names mutherfucker, I'll reach thru this monitor and knock that pin head of yours right off that pencil neck, got that fucker?
Doubtful.

Avante
07-12-2012, 11:51 AM
Doubtful.

Funny how this works, why not tell DD he might not wanna call others names. Well?

gaKNOW!blee
07-12-2012, 01:37 PM
I think JT's point was that there's a major problem with the defense when the safety is racking up so many tackles. Especially when it's a free safety like Bethea.

Oh...my bad.


Although I was kind of hoping to use that as a segway to talk shit on donte whitner lol.

VBM
07-12-2012, 02:04 PM
VY will put one of these drives together.

0PZBKQLEm44

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-12-2012, 02:45 PM
Oh...my bad.


Although I was kind of hoping to use that as a segway to talk shit on donte whitner lol.
The worst is New England.....last year their starting secondary was 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th on the team in tackles :lol

:lol both starting corners having almost 90 tackles a piece

Blake
07-12-2012, 04:46 PM
VY will put one of these drives together.


it's been a while since I've seen a VY nuthugger.

I hope to see them come out again some day the way they used to. :depressed

VBM
07-12-2012, 10:01 PM
it's been a while since I've seen a VY nuthugger.

I hope to see them come out again some day the way they used to. :depressed

I'm more of a Fitzpatrick pessimist. He won't finish the year as the starting QB. James Harden already proved this is a bad year for beards.

lakerhaterade
07-13-2012, 01:16 AM
Wow, you're really going out on a limb with those predictions

yeah, I will be one to bet with the OP on some things

I plan on being a rich man tbqfh

J.T.
07-13-2012, 02:11 AM
Bethea is one of the best safeties in the league right now. He's not on Ed Reed's level, but he's amazingly consistent. He's four tackles shy of having a career average of 100 per season and he's only missed five games his entire career. On a team that Bob Sanders robbed of both cap space and a roster spot for YEARS, that's got damn solid. He's spent his entire career chasing RBs that should have been tackled 7 yards earlier because Bill Polian couldn't draft interior defensive linemen or linebackers if his life depended on it. Pat Angerer is pretty solid at LB though, think he finished top 3 in the entire NFL in tackles last season. There are some bright spots on this team. I think Tom Zbikowski taking the starting SS position from Bob Sanders's ghost (who might as well have been playing SS for the Colts since 2009) is a net plus. It's going to be the corners who kill this team. I don't trust a single one of them in a big game moment right now. I don't know what the free agent market for corners is going to be next season, but the Colts are going to have a lot of cap space when the dead cap money from Manning's deal and all the other guys they cut comes off the books at the end of the year. If Andrew Luck has a promising rookie season I can see marquee defensive free agents getting the works from Indy.

Basically I see the Colts at 6-10 like I said earlier. I'd say five of those are on the defense, three on Luck and two on just running into an elite team (GB, NWE). Although the Pats game they'll probably have a chance in just because the Pats like to choke against lesser competition and it's still a rivalry game. Those be the hardest to predict sometimes.

lakerhaterade
07-13-2012, 04:12 AM
Bethea is one of the best safeties in the league right now. He's not on Ed Reed's level, but he's amazingly consistent. He's four tackles shy of having a career average of 100 per season and he's only missed five games his entire career. On a team that Bob Sanders robbed of both cap space and a roster spot for YEARS, that's got damn solid. He's spent his entire career chasing RBs that should have been tackled 7 yards earlier because Bill Polian couldn't draft interior defensive linemen or linebackers if his life depended on it. Pat Angerer is pretty solid at LB though, think he finished top 3 in the entire NFL in tackles last season. There are some bright spots on this team. I think Tom Zbikowski taking the starting SS position from Bob Sanders's ghost (who might as well have been playing SS for the Colts since 2009) is a net plus. It's going to be the corners who kill this team. I don't trust a single one of them in a big game moment right now. I don't know what the free agent market for corners is going to be next season, but the Colts are going to have a lot of cap space when the dead cap money from Manning's deal and all the other guys they cut comes off the books at the end of the year. If Andrew Luck has a promising rookie season I can see marquee defensive free agents getting the works from Indy.

Basically I see the Colts at 6-10 like I said earlier. I'd say five of those are on the defense, three on Luck and two on just running into an elite team (GB, NWE). Although the Pats game they'll probably have a chance in just because the Pats like to choke against lesser competition and it's still a rivalry game. Those be the hardest to predict sometimes.

:lmao Colts, they're done for another 3-4 years until Luck blossoms into a boss.

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Does anyone else think the Cheatriots are going to have a down year... I mean, they have a suspect defense now stocked with young rookies and the Super Bowl losers always have injury problems the season after... 9-7, might not even make the playoffs...

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 08:01 PM
Their defense was 2nd to last in the NFL last year with tons of injuries as well and they managed to win 13 games.

A 9-7 prediction for them is pretty retarded.

Avante
07-13-2012, 08:26 PM
Patriots 2012

at Tenn...win
Arizona...win
at Batimore...loss
at Buffalo....win
Denver...win
at Seattle...win
Jets...win
at St.Louis..win
Buffalo...win
Indy...win
at Jets...loss
at Miami..win

Houston
San Francisco.....could drop one of these.

at Jax...win
Miami...win

Ok they lose one they should win...12-4

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 08:31 PM
They aren't sweeping Buffalo, they might even go 0-2... Denver could beat them if Peyton goes off... I'd expect either Houston or San Fran to beat them, maybe both...

Avante
07-13-2012, 08:45 PM
They aren't sweeping Buffalo, they might even go 0-2... Denver could beat them if Peyton goes off... I'd expect either Houston or San Fran to beat them, maybe both...

Could be right about (talking a split) Buffalo. I mentioned that beating both Houston/Frisco back to back might not happen. No Denver won't beat them in NE. They know all about Peyton Manning.

12-4 looks about right.

DeadlyDynasty
07-13-2012, 08:49 PM
:lolNo way on God's green earth the Bills are sweeping the Pats. If they manage to miracle another game against them this year I'll be thrilled.

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 08:51 PM
Son, that Bills defensive line is formidable tbh... your Bills are going to be one of the best teams in the league, B...

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 08:55 PM
They aren't sweeping Buffalo, they might even go 0-2... Denver could beat them if Peyton goes off... I'd expect either Houston or San Fran to beat them, maybe both...
Keep dreaming.

:lol butthurt Chargers fan

Avante
07-13-2012, 08:56 PM
:lolNo way on God's green earth the Bills are sweeping the Pats. If they manage to miracle another game against them this year I'll be thrilled.

My bad, I was talking about a split, yes no way in hell Buffalo sweeps the Pats, that can't happen.

Avante
07-13-2012, 08:58 PM
Son, that Bills defensive line is formidable tbh... your Bills are going to be one of the best teams in the league, B...

10-6....maybe!

DeadlyDynasty
07-13-2012, 09:01 PM
Son, that Bills defensive line is formidable tbh... your Bills are going to be one of the best teams in the league, B...

Nah, they're too young and full of ? 's on offense, but i agree about the d line--should be nasty.

OT, but i met Bills Center Eric Wood while playing Craps at casino niagara tonight. I wont wash my right hand for a week, and will probably masturbate with it tonight.

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:05 PM
Keep dreaming.

:lol butthurt Chargers fan

No need to be butthurt... we whooped the Cheatriots for our AFL title, B...

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:06 PM
$100 bet the Patriots win 12 games or more, you game, B?

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:14 PM
Hell no, I'm not a gambler, I have terrible luck with bets... and besides, I said I think the Pats could have a down year, not saying they actually will...

Pelicans78
07-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Newton will have a sophomore slump. He regressed as the season went along.

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:17 PM
So you were basically hoping the team that's been jizzing on the Chargers for years has a down year :lol

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:20 PM
So you were basically hoping the team that's been jizzing on the Chargers for years has a down year :lol

Please, if I cared about that, I'd be praying for the Steelers to have a down lifetime, since they've always jizzed on us the worst (other than the AFCCG of course).... that being said, I am a bonafide Cheatriot hater, tbh...

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:27 PM
Cheatriot
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It's funny cause of spygate!

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:32 PM
Spygate is still pretty funny to me, actually... even Eli beating the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl is still a great source of entertainment... and of course...

http://www.100percentauthentic.com/pics/55277_05_lg.jpg

51-1:lol

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:34 PM
:lol the butthurt is so obvious
:lol dreaming the Patriots are gonna go 9-7
:lol the Patriots could go 0-16, and the Chargers will still have Norv Turner as their coach

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:36 PM
We'll always have 51-10 :lol

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:38 PM
3 superbowls > some game you weren't even alive for :lol

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Still counts, B... also, those Chargers wanted to have a Super Bowl that year, but IIRC, them Bears were too pussy to play the Bolts....

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:43 PM
Maybe it still counts but it doesn't hide your obvious butthurt towards the Patriots. Chargerfan's butthurt towards the Patriots has been easy as hell to detect the last few years.

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 09:48 PM
Again, no need for us to be butthurt... we're undefeated against the Pats in league championship games... thanks for the rings, Pats!

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 09:58 PM
:lol thinking that shtick is believable
:lol "I'm not butthurt about the Pats dicking my team for years when they beat the Pats 20 years before I was born!"

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-13-2012, 10:00 PM
those Chargers wanted to have a Super Bowl that year, but IIRC, them Bears were too pussy to play the Bolts....
Btw, you didn't remember correctly here given that superbowls didn't exist till 1966 :lol

Clipper Nation
07-13-2012, 10:07 PM
Btw, you didn't remember correctly here given that superbowls didn't exist till 1966 :lol

I know.... the Chargers wanted to play the NFL champions in what would have been the first Super Bowl, and the Bears were too pussy to do it...

Avante
07-13-2012, 11:53 PM
I know.... the Chargers wanted to play the NFL champions in what would have been the first Super Bowl, and the Bears were too pussy to do it...

What the hell are you talking about?


Anyway...(while it tries to figure it out)

Those AFL Charger teams were loaded.

Rote/Hadl at QB

Paul Lowe who was amazing at running back

Keith Lincoln who is the only player in history to score..rushing/receiving/throwing/punt return/kickoff return/point after/field goal

Lance Alworth who was the best receiver in the game.

The biggest difference between the AFL vs NFL back then was the defense. The AFL was weak. They did however have more team speed. Yes the fact they played more black players the reason for that.

lakerhaterade
07-14-2012, 02:16 AM
Does anyone else think the Cheatriots are going to have a down year... I mean, they have a suspect defense now stocked with young rookies and the Super Bowl losers always have injury problems the season after... 9-7, might not even make the playoffs...

:lmao

Nomination for one of the more retarded takes of this off-season.

lakerhaterade
07-14-2012, 02:19 AM
Clipper Nation must dream of that patriot cock ramming up his bandwagon azz

:lol DOK just grilled your ass

Avante
07-14-2012, 04:41 AM
:lmao

Nomination for one of the more retarded takes of this off-season.

I agree the guy is a fucking idiot.

TE
07-14-2012, 07:39 AM
:lmao

Nomination for one of the more retarded takes of this off-season.

:lol

Clipper Nation
07-14-2012, 10:01 AM
I agree the guy is a fucking idiot.

:lol Welcher trying to hop on

Clipper Nation
07-14-2012, 10:04 AM
Clipper Nation must dream of that patriot cock ramming up his bandwagon azz

:lol DOK just grilled your ass

51-1:lol

:lol at the idea of anyone bandwagoning on to the Chargers... they're in for a life of disappointment if they do that tbh....

Avante
07-15-2012, 04:22 AM
:lol Welcher trying to hop on

Come on man even an idiot like you knows the difference between yards and meters. My list was yards:rolleyes

Do you work at stupid?

DeadlyDynasty
07-15-2012, 06:31 AM
I guarantee the Redskins go 0-6 in the division.

Avante
07-15-2012, 08:11 AM
I guarantee the Redskins go 0-6 in the division.

They will win at least one of them at home.

TheCultOfPersonality
07-21-2012, 01:58 PM
Green Bay Packers = 2013 Super Bowl Champs

Guaransheed!

symple19
07-21-2012, 03:15 PM
Alex Smith will be underwhelming and the chief cause of me throwing things at my television on Sundays.

The other Smith will have 10+ sacks and establish himself as a dominant force on the outside

Peyton will prove he's still got it

Tim Tebow will read the bible alot and wilt under the harsh lights of Gotham

Panthers will make the playoffs

Packers win it all

symple19
07-21-2012, 03:17 PM
And I do think the Niners will win at least 10 again, but will fall in the playoffs once real leadership is needed behind center (or a pass in the air beyond 15 yards to someone other than VDavis)

DeadlyDynasty
07-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Blaine Gabbert will continue to fail so hard that Chad Henne will replace him.
Justin Blackmon will have a quiet year.
Matt Ryan will lay another egg in the playoffs.

symple19
07-21-2012, 03:54 PM
Justin Blackmon will have a quiet year.


especially if he doesn't get signed and get into camp.

TIMMYtoZO
07-21-2012, 06:22 PM
Elite Manning will be even better this upcoming season. His stats may not change due to upgrading at running back, but his impact on games will be more than ever.

The Giants will win 13-14 games this season

DT Marvin Austin is going to make an impact

DeadlyDynasty
07-21-2012, 07:00 PM
Is Austin more of a run-stuffer or pass-rusher?...don't know the book on him, other than he was a highly touted DT coming out of Carolina.

As for the G-Men, 13-14 games is pretty ambitious with that brutal schedule, but they did similar work in 2008 before Plax went down.

I maintain that the 2008 team (Pre-Plax shooting himself) was the best Giant team I've seen in years...Burress was having a monster year and the offense completely took a nosedive when him and Smith went down.

gaKNOW!blee
07-21-2012, 09:55 PM
13 wins is very ambitious to the point it's unrealistic. I see a loss to both the cowboys and eagles, and they lost to grossman last year so I don't think a loss to the redskins is entirely out of the question.

JoeTait75
07-22-2012, 11:17 AM
- Giants will win more games during the regular season (11-12?) than in 2011 but won't go back to the Super Bowl.

- Eagles will bounce back and play better than in '11.

- AFC North will not be as strong as in 2011. Baltimore and Cincinnati will regress. I've given up predicting the downfall of the Steelers.

- Houston will kick much ass during the regular season.

- Green Bay will fall off its 15-1 pace of 2011 but will be a better team.

- Cleveland will avoid double-digit losses for the first time since '07.

Ryan Fitzpatrick
07-25-2012, 10:13 PM
Houston at 12-1 to win the SB is a very enticing bet...

benefactor
07-26-2012, 07:12 AM
Houston at 12-1 to win the SB is a very enticing bet...
Wow...that's pretty damn good odds even though I don't think it will happen. Tempting indeed.

johnsmith
07-26-2012, 10:57 AM
Wow...that's pretty damn good odds even though I don't think it will happen. Tempting indeed.

They're pretty fucking loaded this season. I think it's a pretty good bet.

NFL is so difficult to predict though until 3 or 4 weeks in.

TIMMYtoZO
07-26-2012, 11:08 AM
Is Austin more of a run-stuffer or pass-rusher?...don't know the book on him, other than he was a highly touted DT coming out of Carolina.

As for the G-Men, 13-14 games is pretty ambitious with that brutal schedule, but they did similar work in 2008 before Plax went down.

I maintain that the 2008 team (Pre-Plax shooting himself) was the best Giant team I've seen in years...Burress was having a monster year and the offense completely took a nosedive when him and Smith went down.

Austin is more of an explosive pass rusher, but he isn't all that bad against the runs either. He has a burst off the line, but he has pretty good strength. Coughlin says he has a nonstop motor. Joesph is more of a run-stuffer.

benefactor
07-26-2012, 11:56 AM
They're pretty fucking loaded this season. I think it's a pretty good bet.

NFL is so difficult to predict though until 3 or 4 weeks in.
I have watched the football gods do too many unspeakable things to Houston football though. I wouldn't fault anyone that had an extra grand laying around to throw down on it, but the historical side of things leads me to be more of a doubting Thomas.

johnsmith
07-26-2012, 12:35 PM
I have watched the football gods do too many unspeakable things to Houston football though. I wouldn't fault anyone that had an extra grand laying around to throw down on it, but the historical side of things leads me to be more of a doubting Thomas.

Truth. It's amazing to me that some teams (in any pro sport) can be bad for so long.

I'm looking at you Cleveland.

JoeTait75
07-26-2012, 02:26 PM
I'm looking at you Cleveland.

We thumb our noses at NFL parity here in Cleveland.

Avante
08-14-2012, 02:32 AM
Well that didn't take long.

"look at those arms"

Yep, talking about Seahawk roookie Robert Turbin.

dirk4mvp
08-14-2012, 03:07 AM
Great to see someone who knows their stuff, I'm with you on all of that.

I picked up on T.Y.Hilton a couple years ago, as we coming out of FI he didn't get the respect that he deserves. In a word...dynamic...another one of those make up miss, gone!!!

I don't know how far back you go but imagine a Colt offense with a Hall of Fame, QB (Unitas) RB (Lenny Moore the first great receiving back) WR (Ray Berry) and TE (John Macky).

:lmao :lmao :lmao taking a shot in the dark hoping JT was some fat ol fuck like you

Avante
08-14-2012, 03:14 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao taking a shot in the dark hoping JT was some fat ol fuck like you

Yep, the only thing worst than my fat gut is that old fart stink. I'm so fucking fat I had to have the toilet rebuilt. Being a toad totally sucks. Make that an old fat toad.

dirk4mvp
08-14-2012, 03:20 AM
Be honest, you were really hoping JT was some fat ol fuck like you so maybe you two could talk about shit nobody else cares about.

Avante
08-14-2012, 03:26 AM
Be honest, you were really hoping JT was some fat ol fuck like you so maybe you two could talk about shit nobody else cares about.

Nobody cares about or knows about?

Who needs to go around all worried about..."is everyone cool with this topic?" I've been into the NFL since the early 60's, obviously I'm on another level than some kid. So I need to do what they want or what I want? I couldn't care less what others talk about, if it doesn't interest me so what? Move on to something that does. So many of you here have never figured that out, why?

Why would I care what JT looks like?

dirk4mvp
08-14-2012, 03:28 AM
Due to your condition, I hoped that you may have worked up a little sweat and even burned a calorie or two typing up that aggressive retort.

Avante
08-14-2012, 03:34 AM
Due to your condition, I hoped that you may have worked up a little sweat and even burned a calorie or two typing up that aggressive retort.

Dude, here's the deal I'm tired of dealing with posters who do nothing but complain/bug. You wanna talk to me you start originating threads and getting involved. This bit were you do nothing but hump legs sucks. So until I see you getting involved, take your uncreative bitchy little ass away from me. I can't stand dumbasses who do...zero.

Now watch as this little shit still humps away on my leg:rolleyes

dirk4mvp
08-14-2012, 03:40 AM
I can't stand dumbasses who do...zero.



rofl aren't you the senior citizen who types on his computer all day?


self pity is a terrible thing.

lakerhaterade
08-14-2012, 03:40 AM
Dude, here's the deal I'm tired of dealing with posters who do nothing but complain/bug. You wanna talk to me you start originating threads and getting involved. This bit were you do nothing but hump legs sucks. So until I see you getting involved, take your uncreative bitchy little ass away from me. I can't stand dumbasses who do...zero.

Now watch as this little shit still humps away on my leg:rolleyes

I refuse to act with common decency

Avante
08-14-2012, 03:43 AM
I refuse to act with common decency

I think it should read...

I refuse to take shit off retarded punks

dirk4mvp
08-14-2012, 03:45 AM
brah you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag unless you belly bombed it open.

Avante
08-14-2012, 03:55 AM
brah you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag unless you belly bombed it open.

Dude, are you really this totally fucked up? Last time dick head, crawl off my leg, start doing things other than stalking others. Your game is pathetic, a punk kid running his mouth in hiding who I would crush like bug. Start doing things on your own fucker, until you do I 'm done with you. So stop stalking me, got it-good!

lakerhaterade
08-14-2012, 04:06 AM
Avante will reach DMC-esque post count levels within a couple of months

dirk4mvp
08-14-2012, 04:13 AM
Dude, are you really this totally fucked up? Last time dick head, crawl off my leg, start doing things other than stalking others. Your game is pathetic, a punk kid running his mouth in hiding who I would crush like bug. Start doing things on your own fucker, until you do I 'm done with you. So stop stalking me, got it-good!

You ain't kicking me to the curb, especially not with your nasty ass beetus feet, you fat ol fuck.

Avante
08-14-2012, 04:30 AM
You ain't kicking me to the curb, especially not with your nasty ass beetus feet, you fat ol fuck.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

How many of these little shits do I totally own?

Clipper Nation
08-14-2012, 07:21 AM
How many of these little shits do I totally own?
You should probably change your diaper, B.....

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 09:30 AM
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

How many of these little shits do I totally own?

Who are you asking?

Oh, that's right, you're just seeking validation from anyone in the forum that will come to your rescue from looking dumber with every post.

Avante
08-14-2012, 11:05 AM
Who are you asking?

Oh, that's right, you're just seeking validation from anyone in the forum that will come to your rescue from looking dumber with every post.

My rescue??????? I keep waiting for somebody to pull me off.

Dumb is following others around acting like a retarded punk like you do. You don't see me following anyone around do you?

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 01:09 PM
My rescue??????? I keep waiting for somebody to pull me off.

Dumb is following others around acting like a retarded punk like you do. You don't see me following anyone around do you?

So you're not going to answer the question about who you were asking?

Avante
08-14-2012, 01:13 PM
So you're not going to answer the question about who you were asking?

It wasn't obvious?

Tell me johnsmith, why do you follow me around?

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 01:16 PM
It wasn't obvious?

Tell me johnsmith, why do you follow me around?

I'll answer your question when you answer mine. In the following post:


How many of these little shits do I totally own?

to whom were you speaking?

Avante
08-14-2012, 01:19 PM
I'll answer your question when you answer mine. In the following post:



to whom were you speaking?

I am talking to everyone reading the thread.

Now tell me why this obsession with me? Why am I what you mostly do when here?

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 01:24 PM
I am talking to everyone reading the thread.

Now tell me why this obsession with me? Why am I what you mostly do when here?

So you're talking to everyone in the thread that is shitting on you about how many people you "own"? Ok, got it. For some reason it had escaped me that you are a delusional old fuck.


As for your question, it's not that I follow you around, I honestly come to this site for informational purposes usually, and occasionally I enjoy discussing some subjects. However, when I see your posts, I cringe. They are generally so awful, I feel like I should remind you how much you bother everyone here. The thing is though is that my opinion was only validated when you were pinked and your boyfriend was given the boot.

Don't get me wrong here either. Occasionally, and usually in the NFL forum, you have some decent posts.....but they are very few and far between and are usually clouded with track and field shit that no one cares about.....I realize the statistics you throw out there are just for trolling purposes at this point, but I still find it necessary to let you know that I, along with most others here, believe you to be a giant douche.

Carry on.

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 01:25 PM
Oh, and quit with all the whimperwahaha stuff.....it was just a question.

Avante
08-14-2012, 01:30 PM
So you're talking to everyone in the thread that is shitting on you about how many people you "own"? Ok, got it. For some reason it had escaped me that you are a delusional old fuck.


As for your question, it's not that I follow you around, I honestly come to this site for informational purposes usually, and occasionally I enjoy discussing some subjects. However, when I see your posts, I cringe. They are generally so awful, I feel like I should remind you how much you bother everyone here. The thing is though is that my opinion was only validated when you were pinked and your boyfriend was given the boot.

Don't get me wrong here either. Occasionally, and usually in the NFL forum, you have some decent posts.....but they are very few and far between and are usually clouded with track and field shit that no one cares about.....I realize the statistics you throw out there are just for trolling purposes at this point, but I still find it necessary to let you know that I, along with most others here, believe you to be a giant douche.

Carry on.

I don't see you doing anything at all but whimpering around. You never originate threads and the few times you've tried they totally sucked. So you might wanna elevate your game before trying to criticize anyone else. I think you totally suck and I doubt I'm the only one thinking that. What do you ever do but leech off others and complain, well? You obviously don't know anything.

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 01:37 PM
I don't see you doing anything at all but whimpering around.
You suse that line too much.....find something better because that is tired and old.....much like you.
You never originate threads and the few times you've tried they totally sucked. I've started only a handful of threads on this site....you're right. I never really cared if they made much headway, so I guess they sucked.....but guess what? The four threads I've started in 2012 never got me pinked like a homo the way yours did.:lol
So you might wanna elevate your game before trying to criticize anyone else. Elevate my game? You know this is a message board right? Just because it's the only thing you do, doesn't mean everyone takes it as serious as you do.
I think you totally suck Awesome
and I doubt I'm the only one thinking that You're probably right, but the one guy that was your biggest supporter got banned for being a fucking clown.....what does that tell you?
What do you ever do but leech off others and complain, well? Also tired and worn out, come up with something new.
You obviously don't know anythingObviously.

Avante
08-14-2012, 01:42 PM
You're the only following people around all worried asbout what they do, so who is taking this seriously? Stop stalking me and I wouldn't care what you/anyone else does. I like a lot of options.

Let's see how many days you go without me in your life. I seem to have you mesmerized.

johnsmith
08-14-2012, 01:52 PM
You're the only following people around all worried asbout what they do, so who is taking this seriously? Stop stalking me and I wouldn't care what you/anyone else does. I like a lot of options.

Let's see how many days you go without me in your life. I seem to have you mesmerized.

I'll tell you what chief, how about we just agree to disagree. I'm never going to think your posts are worth a shit and I'll continue to make fun of them, and you just stop responding to me with the same old tired shit.

We obviously won't see eye to eye, so just leave it alone and I'll just keep making fun of you.

Agreed?

Don't respond to that.

Avante
08-14-2012, 02:01 PM
I'll tell you what chief, how about we just agree to disagree. I'm never going to think your posts are worth a shit and I'll continue to make fun of them, and you just stop responding to me with the same old tired shit.

We obviously won't see eye to eye, so just leave it alone and I'll just keep making fun of you.

Agreed?

Don't respond to that.

If you live a life so fucked up that you get a nut following people around on an internet messageboard who see you for what you are with is a moronic leech, go for it. I obviously own you, which you seem cool with. I'm all you want to do, wow dude and you even admit it, whoa!

Since you will be a fixture on my leg as you hump frantically away at least make some effort to be interesting, ok? If all you can do is this..."I'm a moron"....bit you've been playing it's going to be hard hauling you around.

I pity you slick.

Blake
08-14-2012, 02:09 PM
you're pink.

lol

Avante
08-14-2012, 02:13 PM
you're pink.

lol

Most people here like you for an example don't post threads, so what's the big deal?

Blake
08-14-2012, 03:38 PM
Most people here like you for an example don't post threads, so what's the big deal?

No big deal. It's just funny that in this short amount of time you've pulled up enough shit to get the pink stick from the most laid back message board on the internets.

It's funnier still that you still don't see how shitty you are.

Avante
08-14-2012, 03:53 PM
No big deal. It's just funny that in this short amount of time you've pulled up enough shit to get the pink stick from the most laid back message board on the internets.

It's funnier still that you still don't see how shitty you are.

What exactly do I do that is sooooooo fucking shitty? Be specific. What am I doing so different than everyone else? Curious.

Clipper Nation
08-14-2012, 04:54 PM
:cry I don't see you doing anything at all but whimpering around. You never originate threads and the few times you've tried they totally sucked. So you might wanna elevate your game before trying to criticize anyone else. I think you totally suck and I doubt I'm the only one thinking that. What do you ever do but leech off others and complain, well? You obviously don't know anything. :cry

You're one to talk about originality, B.... you post this same exact paragraph every time you get shat on, tbh.... :lol

Avante
08-14-2012, 05:05 PM
You're one to talk about originality, B.... you post this same exact paragraph every time you get shat on, tbh.... :lol

I don't know about you but I'm getting bored with it. If I suck that hard why read me at all?

Blake
08-14-2012, 05:16 PM
What exactly do I do that is sooooooo fucking shitty? Be specific. What am I doing so different than everyone else? Curious.

You're pink, dumb ass.

Ask the one who pinked you.

Avante
08-14-2012, 05:21 PM
You're pink, dumb ass.

Ask the one who pinked you.

Just as I thought, you got nothing as usual.

I'm asking you Blake. What do I do any different than anyone else and be specific. Well?

symple19
08-14-2012, 05:30 PM
Just as I thought, you got nothing as usual.

I'm asking you Blake. What do I do any different than anyone else and be specific. Well?

Hey hey!

How's it going avante?

I see you're continuing to make friends around here...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xHN6U5WfBnk/T8fOHHTlvCI/AAAAAAAAAfs/M5exXBlN2aw/s1600/keep-up-the-good-work.jpg

Avante
08-14-2012, 05:35 PM
Hey hey!

How's it going avante?

I see you're continuing to make friends around here...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xHN6U5WfBnk/T8fOHHTlvCI/AAAAAAAAAfs/M5exXBlN2aw/s1600/keep-up-the-good-work.jpg

I know too much and it bugs those who don't.

Blake
08-14-2012, 05:49 PM
Just as I thought, you got nothing as usual.

I'm asking you Blake. What do I do any different than anyone else and be specific. Well?

Whatever I tell you, you'll tell me you don't do that. I know because we've been through this before.

even then, my opinion is irrelevant. The pinking speaks for itself.

Avante
08-14-2012, 05:57 PM
Whatever I tell you, you'll tell me you don't do that. I know because we've been through this before.

even then, my opinion is irrelevant. The pinking speaks for itself.

So I need to do what to be a great member of the community and someone you'd love to read? Dead serious.

symple19
08-14-2012, 06:16 PM
So I need to do what to be a great member of the community and someone you'd love to read? Dead serious.

I don't think there's anything you can do. Lying, hypocritical, cowards don't do well around here

Not to mention the waterfall of arrogant, moronic, posts and threads you're responsible for

symple19
08-14-2012, 06:16 PM
Dead serious

Avante
08-14-2012, 08:06 PM
I don't think there's anything you can do. Lying, hypocritical, cowards don't do well around here

Not to mention the waterfall of arrogant, moronic, posts and threads you're responsible for

I need some work obviously, I'll watch how you do it. Sort of a role model.

Clipper Nation
08-14-2012, 08:18 PM
:cry So I need to do what to be a great member of the community and someone you'd love to read? Dead serious. :cry
Stop flooding the boards with shit threads and stop spamming useless track-and-field trivia and blues videos that nobody cares about, tbh...

Avante
08-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Stop flooding the boards with shit threads and stop spamming useless track-and-field trivia and blues videos that nobody cares about, tbh...

So talk about...

porno
hot chicks
sex
food
movies
TV

...right?

Clipper Nation
08-14-2012, 08:42 PM
So talk about...

:cry porno
:cry hot chicks
:cry sex
:cry food
:cry movies
:cry TV

...right?
Sure... anything other than useless blues crap, boring track-and-field lists, and rants about "leeches" on the Internet, tbh.....

Avante
08-14-2012, 08:56 PM
Sure... anything other than useless blues crap, boring track-and-field lists, and rants about "leeches" on the Internet, tbh.....

So the fact we all have an option as to what threads we choose to read is a non factor, right?