View Full Version : Scola to be Amenstied (OFFICIAL)
ploto
07-13-2012, 09:56 PM
It is widely believed that the Rockets went under the table and illegally paid his $3M buyout, which NBA teams are forbidden from doing - they can only pay $500k. It got paid somehow, either the Rockets paid it themselves or they gave Scola the cash to go do it so it looked up and up, but it just sort of went away overnight.
:lmao
ace3g
07-13-2012, 10:03 PM
any updates on the right knee injury he sustained during the game against Brazil?
silverblk mystix
07-13-2012, 10:10 PM
Amenstied...hmmm
Is that some kind of religious bondage or something?
Duncan2177
07-13-2012, 10:12 PM
Cuban likes to look smart. They pissed away a chance to defend their title in order to create cap space to go after a big star. They whiffed on Deron Williams and watched JET and Kidd follow Chandler, Butler, and JJB out of town. Then these big name players get amnestied and he's able to use the cap space created for Williams to snatch them up at a bargain price. It won't be too long before we hear from him about how this was part of the plan all along.
And he would keep Scola from joining up with Manu and Tiago in San Antonio.
Cuban is a Idiot.
Budkin
07-13-2012, 10:16 PM
With the Mavs signing Brand it increases our chances slightly to get Scola back.
ace3g
07-13-2012, 10:19 PM
It would be nice if there was some rule against teams bidding on an amnesty player after winning a bid for another.
ElNono
07-13-2012, 10:20 PM
any updates on the right knee injury he sustained during the game against Brazil?
He was having an MRI today... we'll probably know tomorrow...
slick'81
07-13-2012, 10:21 PM
It would be nice if there was some rule against teams bidding on an amnesty player after winning a bid for another.
agreed their should be a limit or time frame after winning a bid before immediate adding another
if dallas lands scola and brand for nothing that is fcked up
ElNono
07-13-2012, 10:26 PM
According to Scola's agent, Dallas and Phoenix have shown interest in bidding... dunno what's Phoenix situation as far as cap-room...
Marcus Bryant
07-13-2012, 10:28 PM
Hopefully it works out, this would be a significant upgrade.
Wild Cobra Kai
07-13-2012, 10:31 PM
The Mavs are still interested in Luis Scola despite picking up Elton Brand off the amnesty wire on Friday.
Had the Mavs not acquired Elton Brand for just $2.1 million, we'd be more inclined to shoot this report down. If the rest of the league is asleep at the switch or cannot afford an offer on Scola, the Mavs may just get lucky, but it makes sense that a team with a greater need in their frontcourt antes up.
Source: ESPN.com (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4690930/source-mavs-still-interested-in-luis-scola?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Mavs don't want any contracts that carry past next summer. At least that was their game plan five minutes ago.
According to Scola's agent, Dallas and Phoenix have shown interest in bidding... dunno what's Phoenix situation as far as cap-room...
Does Dallas have 3.3m in cap space left?
I'm unfamiliar with the Suns situation other than that they are making a big pitch for Mayo after striking out on Gordon.
ElNono
07-13-2012, 10:35 PM
Does Dallas have 3.3m in cap space left?
IIRC, they have about $4 million available after winning the Brand sweepstakes...
ploto
07-13-2012, 10:39 PM
I guess once the guy is amnestied, then teams can talk to him. The bids are secret but the agent can surely steer teams a certain direction.
ElNono
07-13-2012, 10:44 PM
We'll see what happened with his knee.. IIRC, he had surgery on it this summer... hopefully nothing serious...
Mr. Body
07-14-2012, 12:25 AM
My question is, if we had Scola playing last year and this year in the playoffs, playing as Matt Bonner, taking the same exact shots Bonner did, how many more games would we have won? Even the threes.
slick'81
07-14-2012, 12:31 AM
My question is, if we had Scola playing last year and this year in the playoffs, playing as Matt Bonner, taking the same exact shots Bonner did, how many more games would we have won? Even the threes.
maybe not much but take bonner out give the spurs an xtra option off the bench who in the paint can score and i got to think itll help
Mr. Body
07-14-2012, 12:43 AM
maybe not much but take bonner out give the spurs an xtra option off the bench who in the paint can score and i got to think itll help
You miss my (slightly joking, slightly exasperated) point:
If Scola took the same shots Bonner did in the playoffs, he'd probably wind up hitting more 3s. Definitely get more rebounds, too.
Scola doesn't shrivel in big games.
ElNono
07-14-2012, 12:53 AM
You miss my (slightly joking, slightly exasperated) point:
If Scola took the same shots Bonner did in the playoffs, he'd probably wind up hitting more 3s. Definitely get more rebounds, too.
Scola doesn't shrivel in big games.
And he can get to the line and make effing freebies... goddamn Tiago got scared...
slick'81
07-14-2012, 01:19 AM
You miss my (slightly joking, slightly exasperated) point:
If Scola took the same shots Bonner did in the playoffs, he'd probably wind up hitting more 3s. Definitely get more rebounds, too.
Scola doesn't shrivel in big games.
oh hell yeah man no doubt lol
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 01:45 AM
Scola might be my last pipe dream. Mavs better not bid on him just because.
lakerhaterade
07-14-2012, 02:10 AM
goddam are the mavs targeting every proven free agent big man?
Give it a rest Cuban.
lakerhaterade
07-14-2012, 02:11 AM
You miss my (slightly joking, slightly exasperated) point:
If Scola took the same shots Bonner did in the playoffs, he'd probably wind up hitting more 3s. Definitely get more rebounds, too.
Scola doesn't shrivel in big games.
This.
I want Scola on this team solely because one knows he shows up, unlike Bonner.
Duncan2177
07-14-2012, 03:20 AM
goddam are the mavs targeting every proven free agent big man?
Give it a rest Cuban.
Cuban is a Idiot.
diego
07-14-2012, 07:33 AM
We'll see what happened with his knee.. IIRC, he had surgery on it this summer... hopefully nothing serious...
The surgery was last summer, not this one, and it was "just" arthroscopic; that plus the lockout and all the instability in Houston may have contributed to the down season last year. (lets hope :lol)
no doubt in my mind Scola is an upgrade over bonner and Blair and to an extent splitter and diaw too, and the chemistry with tiago and manu is very important. I don't know if he and manu are as close as manu was with oberto, but he and tiago are extremely close friends, to the point that Scola named one of his children after tiago. And remember Scola would play a role for us, not have to be a top guy like he has in Houston the past few years. :hungry:
I hope he falls to us and we deal Bonner or Blair
Scola should not disclose the extent of his injury so teams pass on picking him up on the waiver. Then he can get his full salary and become a free agent.
kobyz
07-14-2012, 09:04 AM
it's a no-brainer for Dallas to bide for him so look for Scola to be claim by them!
Wild Cobra Kai
07-14-2012, 09:15 AM
it's a no-brainer for Dallas to bide for him so look for Scola to be claim by them!
No it isn't. They can't pick Scola up for one year cheap like they did Brand. His minimum commitment is ~3 yrs/$10M. That'll scare a lot of teams off, including (likely) Dallas. They struck out on DW, and likely are out of the Howard derby. They have to have something to show for blowing up their championship team, so they'll probably do a cap re-load and go after CP3 next year. That would preclude taking on any multi-million dollar multi-year deals like the requirement for claiming Scola.
Lincoln
07-14-2012, 09:19 AM
Cuban is a Idiot.
Coming from the fucktard who doesn't even use proper grammar :lol
Lincoln
07-14-2012, 09:22 AM
If Dallas does pick him up, he can easily be moved at the trade deadline because the value of his contract will be low. I think we should go after a shooting guard with our remaining 4 mill, not a backup 4 whenever we already have one in Brand
Mel_13
07-14-2012, 09:24 AM
If Dallas does pick him up, he can easily be moved at the trade deadline because the value of his contract will be low. I think we should go after a shooting guard with our remaining 4 mill, not a backup 4 whenever we already have one in Brand
Not allowed to trade him until July 1, 2013.
Lincoln
07-14-2012, 09:25 AM
If there's no way to move him, then it wouldn't be a good pickup tbh. Just no space in our Frontcourt and it would throw a wrench in next summers plan
Wild Cobra Kai
07-14-2012, 09:27 AM
If Dallas does pick him up, he can easily be moved at the trade deadline because the value of his contract will be low. I think we should go after a shooting guard with our remaining 4 mill, not a backup 4 whenever we already have one in Brand
Teams will try to stick Dallas with him next summer if they pick him up, especially anyone with cap room next summer or in 2014. Even at $3M/yr, with the three year commitment, he isn't exactly a bargain, more like even money.
DPG21920
07-14-2012, 09:33 AM
Cuban is a Idiot.
Coming from the fucktard who doesn't even use proper grammar :lol
If Dallas does pick him up, he can easily be moved at the trade deadline because the value of his contract will be low. I think we should go after a shooting guard with our remaining 4 mill, not a backup 4 whenever we already have one in Brand
If there's no way to move him, then it wouldn't be a good pickup tbh. Just no space in our Frontcourt and it would throw a wrench in next summers plan
That sequence made me laugh.
kobyz
07-14-2012, 09:47 AM
No it isn't. They can't pick Scola up for one year cheap like they did Brand. His minimum commitment is ~3 yrs/$10M. That'll scare a lot of teams off, including (likely) Dallas. They struck out on DW, and likely are out of the Howard derby. They have to have something to show for blowing up their championship team, so they'll probably do a cap re-load and go after CP3 next year. That would preclude taking on any multi-million dollar multi-year deals like the requirement for claiming Scola.
at a 3 million price they would not mind to go multi year and eat some cap space cause that price for a player like Scola is a bargain, it's money like of a bench player for a very good starter, even if in the future they will want to clear that contract they easily can do it, will be great trade chip!
ColinB
07-14-2012, 10:25 AM
Dallas isn't the only team that can claim him. We realize that, right?
This forum is going to be a riot later today, no matter what happens. Looking forward to it.
Edit: or rather, tomorrow.
Bruno
07-14-2012, 10:31 AM
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine
Heat & Spurs, just to name two contenders, would LOVE to court Scola if he clears waivers. Instinct tells me, despite cost, LS gets claimed
Latest amnesty scuttle: Cavs, I'm told, weighing up bid for Luis Scola. They've been fans of him for a while. Issue will be long-term cost
Hoops Czar
07-14-2012, 10:32 AM
I worry about Charlotte. MJ has no plan and he wouldn't think twice about pulling players out of thin air regardless of cost and long term implications and they do need a power forward.
ploto
07-14-2012, 10:39 AM
I read on a Dallas site that the Mavs have almost $5 million left. They could claim Scola for the minimum bid and still have about $1.9 million left.
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 10:42 AM
Cavs making a push to becoming the Rockets of the East.
Smart rebuild.:rolleyes
MR.SILVER&BLack
07-14-2012, 10:48 AM
Cavs making a push to becoming the Rockets of the East.
Smart rebuild.:rolleyes
:lol Why do you think Lebron left?
Redshadows
07-14-2012, 11:04 AM
Just sign Kenyon Martin first.
DPG21920
07-14-2012, 11:07 AM
I read on a Dallas site that the Mavs have almost $5 million left. They could claim Scola for the minimum bid and still have about $1.9 million left.
Yes, but if they do that, that lowers the amount they can offer Dwight Howard in FA (or any other FA). It's the reason they have 1 year contracts only pretty much. They still might bid, but I could see them not doing it because of the length (even if it's a good value).
therealtruth
07-14-2012, 12:58 PM
Well said. :lol
But Scola really makes no sense for them on so many levels. One, they don't need another big who lacks mobility and athleticism. Two, their big rotation should be set and though overrated, it's formidable. Three, he'd eat into their cap space for next summer, when they'll make futile attempts to land Howard and Paul.
I definitely wouldn't put it past them to bid for him (that's not saying much, considering arguably the most credible source is reporting they will), but I think they may just attempt to re-sign West to a 1 year deal and call it an off season.
The only set big rotation I see is TD/Diaw/Splitter. Still need a 4/5th big for rest/injuries/foul trouble.
Mel_13
07-14-2012, 12:58 PM
the only set big rotation i see is td/diaw/splitter. Still need a 4/5th big for rest/injuries/foul trouble.
rif
timvp
07-14-2012, 01:03 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
More amnesty scuttle: I'm told Charlotte, New Orleans and Sacramento all have levels of Scola interest and weighing whether to lodge bids
Eh, Scola isn't going to pass through waivers. One of the five teams showing interest will bid on him.
It was a good dream as long as it lasted :depressed
Mel_13
07-14-2012, 01:04 PM
Anywhere but Dallas, then.
timvp
07-14-2012, 01:13 PM
I'm pretty confident it's going to be the Hornets.
1. They almost traded for him last year in the CP3 deal so it's obvious the really like him.
2. Demps was around during the Scola fiasco so he knows all about Scola.
3. After matching Gordon, AFIAK they'll be down to about $5 million in cap space. There's no better way to spend that than on Scola.
4. With the Ryan Anderson deal and the Gordon matching, they already have long-term contracts on the books so another one in Scola isn't a deal-breaker.
5. They don't have many quality bigs. Unibrow, Anderson and Jason Smith ... and that's about it.
6. They have no post presence right now. Enter Scola.
It's going to be the Hornets. They'll bid ~$4M a year and get him.
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 01:46 PM
WTF. Why would those teams not bid more than 2.1 mil on Brand for 1 year?
My last off-season pipedream vanishing to POS team with illogical bidding. :depressed
Mel_13
07-14-2012, 01:48 PM
Why would those teams not bid more than 2.1 mil on Brand for 1 year?
Yeah, I can understand the interest in Scola at 3M+ for 3 years, but I can't understand the lack of interest in Brand for 1 year at the same price.
DesignatedT
07-14-2012, 01:53 PM
I feel like Brand would have been a better fit for NOH.
ace3g
07-14-2012, 02:23 PM
John Hollinger @johnhollinger
Interesting that so many lotto teams have Scola interest, per @ESPNSteinLine . Remember, can't trade him all year.
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 02:31 PM
Scola camp needs to start claiming he has a bad injury (6 month recovery time). Any injury update? Not that it matters.
I agree that Brand seems to be a better fit with NOH.
dunkman
07-14-2012, 02:34 PM
If the Spurs add Scola (and Darko), it will be a good off season.
MR.SILVER&BLack
07-14-2012, 02:37 PM
All we can hope for is that his contract length & no real details on his current injury are enough to scare off these lottery teams.
gambit1990
07-14-2012, 02:40 PM
i'm not surprised he's getting that much interest. it'd be cool if he managed to clear waivers and come here.
ace3g
07-14-2012, 03:21 PM
Well since both Haywood and Milicic were amnestied on Thursday, we should find out today what teams (if any) won the bid for them. Not that it eliminates those teams from the Scola race.
loveforthegame
07-14-2012, 03:43 PM
Why the hell are the Kings interested in Scola? They just resigned Jason Thompson and drafted Robinson.
Bruno
07-14-2012, 03:55 PM
I don't buy that all these rebuilding teams are interested in Scola for at least $10M/3 years. And if Spurs don't get Scola, it won't be the end of the world. It's not like he is a great or even very good player.
Wild Cobra Kai
07-14-2012, 04:02 PM
I read on a Dallas site that the Mavs have almost $5 million left. They could claim Scola for the minimum bid and still have about $1.9 million left.
Of course they could, by the numbers. It's not about THIS year, it's about NEXT. Dallas struck out already, but they are going to cap reload and go after CP3 next summer. They don't want that 3 year/$10M deal hanging around their necks.
ploto
07-14-2012, 04:03 PM
Yes, but if they do that, that lowers the amount they can offer Dwight Howard in FA (or any other FA). It's the reason they have 1 year contracts only pretty much. They still might bid, but I could see them not doing it because of the length (even if it's a good value).
They could trade him next summer.
ace3g
07-14-2012, 04:05 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
NBA's 30 teams just notified that Brendan Haywood has been claimed on waivers by Bobcats
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
NBA's 30 teams also notified that Darko Milcic has cleared waivers and is now an unrestricted free agent
ploto
07-14-2012, 04:08 PM
Maybe Charlotte will not bid on Scola.
timvp
07-14-2012, 04:09 PM
What were the minimum amounts needed to bid on Haywood and Milicic?
ploto
07-14-2012, 04:11 PM
What were the minimum amounts needed to bid on Haywood and Milicic?
Milicic had two years and $10 million remaining on his contract, but only $7 million is guaranteed.
Haywood had I think 3 years and $27 million.
ace3g
07-14-2012, 04:14 PM
Haywood's $8.3 million salary this season and $27.2 million overall
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4690853/mavs-officially-use-amnesty-on-brendan-haywood
Not sure what his lowest salary over the length of the contract is though
Bruno
07-14-2012, 04:21 PM
What were the minimum amounts needed to bid on Haywood and Milicic?
Milicic: $3.9M over 2 years
Haywood: $4.2M over 3 years
benefactor
07-14-2012, 04:21 PM
Milicic cleared waivers.
ace3g
07-14-2012, 04:30 PM
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Charlotte's winning bid for Haywood, per league source, was $2.05M.
ploto
07-14-2012, 04:36 PM
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Charlotte's winning bid for Haywood, per league source, was $2.05M.
Must be quoted in per year for 3 years.
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 04:40 PM
Plan A- Sign Scola
Plan B- Trade Tiago+ for a pf and sign Darko to be the backup C.
Budkin
07-14-2012, 04:41 PM
So are we making a bid on Scola or do we only have a chance if he clears waivers?
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 04:44 PM
So are we making a bid on Scola or do we only have a chance if he clears waivers?
this
ace3g
07-14-2012, 04:45 PM
So are we making a bid on Scola or do we only have a chance if he clears waivers?
Unless the Spurs magically restructured their salaries to get under the cap, they have to wait till if and when he clears waivers.
timvp
07-14-2012, 04:48 PM
Milicic: $3.9M over 2 years
Haywood: $4.2M over 3 years
Thanks.
I think Scola is going to get claimed. I'd say Hornets > Mavs > Bobcats as the order of likeliest destination.
ElNono
07-14-2012, 05:19 PM
Scola's MRI was postponed for a couple of days... apparently nothing serious to warrant urgency...
DPG21920
07-14-2012, 06:09 PM
We know if hes cleared waivers tomorrow at 4, correct?
Kindergarten Cop
07-14-2012, 07:32 PM
We know if hes cleared waivers tomorrow at 4, correct?
Correct - (assuming you are in the midwest) 5pm EST and 4pm CST
rascal
07-14-2012, 08:20 PM
Thanks.
I think Scola is going to get claimed. I'd say Hornets > Mavs > Bobcats as the order of likeliest destination.
I say Scola clears waivers and ends up on the Spurs.
timvp
07-14-2012, 08:25 PM
I say Scola clears waivers and ends up on the Spurs.
You also thought the Spurs were going to win the championship at one point last season.
Hoops Czar
07-14-2012, 08:29 PM
You also thought the Spurs were going to win the championship at one point last season.
So did everyone else.
rascal
07-14-2012, 08:36 PM
You also thought the Spurs were going to win the championship at one point last season.
I won't go that far to say I thought they would win a championship but I had them in the mix when the playoff matchups fell the way they did.
I also thought the frontline as weak as it was will never produce a title and I have said moving forward if Duncan, Manu and Parker are the top 3 players the team won't win another title. Those three were still the top 3 players last season.
I also thought the lakers were coming out of the west and losing to Miami when the playoffs started so yes I was wrong in the playoff predictions.
None of the bids for the bigs have exceeded $2.3M. That includes the premium the winner paid based on what they thought it would take to outbid the other teams. If the minimum bid must indeed be 3.3m for Scola, I wonder what a team thinks the additional premium would have to be to outbid rivals: 3.5m, 3.8m, 4m?
I think the odds are 50-50 he clears. I know that even 4m is stilll value for Scola obviously; however that's a three year commitment which may not be a priority if you are a rebuilding team like the Hornets or Cavs. WRT the Mavs I really don't know what to think. The best news from the Spurs point of view is if Calderon is amnestied. There were rumblings that the mavs were interested.
ploto
07-14-2012, 09:59 PM
More and more I think it looks like the Hornets will bid on Scola for sure.
What about ties?
Nathan89
07-14-2012, 10:27 PM
CIA Pop getting other teams to act interested so the Mavs don't bid.
Andthentherewas21
07-14-2012, 11:01 PM
More and more I think it looks like the Hornets will bid on Scola for sure.
What about ties?
Goes to the team with the worse record in the previous season
Mel_13
07-14-2012, 11:06 PM
I won't go that far to say I thought they would win a championship
:rolleyes
Sean Cagney
07-15-2012, 12:03 AM
More and more I think it looks like the Hornets will bid on Scola for sure.
What about ties?
They will, he will not be here so I don't worry about that nor think of it. I would like to have him yes, but he won't be in SA.
rayray2k8
07-15-2012, 12:06 AM
Spurs fans can't do much but hope he goes unclaimed, but more than likely he will get a bid.
I will be shocked if he clears waivers, but I'm sure most of us will be wondering what's going on around 4pm.
All we can do is wait and see.
Spurs Brazil
07-15-2012, 07:13 AM
Mavericks plan to bid, but not optimistic of landing Luis Scola
As of Saturday night, a Mavericks source said the franchise is leaning strongly toward submitting a bid on Sunday for amnestied former Rockets forward Luis Scola.
The source added, however, that the Mavericks expect other teams’ bids to be higher than the one they would submit.
Unlike Elton Brand, whom the Mavericks claimed Friday with a bid of $2.1 million on his one-year contract, Scola bidders would have to bid at least $3.3 million for the 2012-13 season and at least $10 million spread over three years. That would cover the non-guaranteed portion of Scola’s contract, as required under the amnesty rules.
Houston must pay Scola the $20.6 million he’s guaranteed for 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons.
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/2012/07/mavericks-plan-to-bid-but-not-optimistic-of-landing-luis-scola.html/
Wild Cobra Kai
07-15-2012, 08:22 AM
It's a giant game of hold 'em poker. Teams are saying all KINDS of shit to throw off other teams, or get them to geek and submit a bid on a player the first leaking team had NO interest in at all. It may be a feint towards a later player they may want to claim.
Wouldn't shock me if 3-4 teams put in a bid. Also wouldn't shock me if he goes unclaimed. Scola, at his age and wear isn't a great bargain at 3yr/10M. Smart teams would rather wait for him to clear and talk about a minimum deal. Why pay the claim fee? Stick Houston with his whole contract and get him on the cheap.
Ice009
07-15-2012, 08:45 AM
lol no way are the Spurs going to get Scola. Scola needed to say publicly that he didn't want to be claimed by anyone and that he won't play for whatever team picks him. He should have stated that he wants to choose who he plays for and won't suit up for whatever team claims him.
I'm sure there will be numerous bids on him and the Spurs have zero chance of getting him. I don't see how this thread got to 14 pages.
therealtruth
07-15-2012, 10:01 AM
lol no way are the Spurs going to get Scola. Scola needed to say publicly that he didn't want to be claimed by anyone and that he won't play for whatever team picks him. He should have stated that he wants to choose who he plays for and won't suit up for whatever team claims him.
I'm sure there will be numerous bids on him and the Spurs have zero chance of getting him. I don't see how this thread got to 14 pages.
The league doesn't like that. Look at Billups last year.
rascal
07-15-2012, 10:01 AM
There won't be a bid on him.
DPG21920
07-15-2012, 10:19 AM
It's really hard to imagine him not being bid on....he's to valuable of a piece to have locked up for ~3M for 3 years. If he clears, this has potential to be a game changer for the Spurs and it would be quite a bit of fortune for the Spurs.
Not only would he be on a likely 1 year deal (which is great), he would be a significant upgrade over Bonner and it would all happen early enough in the year where he would have a full training camp/year to adjust and gel.
Ice009
07-15-2012, 10:20 AM
The league doesn't like that. Look at Billups last year.
What did they do to Billups? I don't recall them doing anything to him.
Andthentherewas21
07-15-2012, 10:29 AM
What did they do to Billups? I don't recall them doing anything to him.
They also didn't do anything to Fisher after he was refusing to report to Houston. However, potentially if they don't report, they can be banned from playing basketball with any other team (which would include any FIBA associated club teams overseas).
But there isn't anything saying that he can't poison the well by claiming he wouldn't play. If he truly wants to choose where he goes, that is the only way he gets to (See: Dwight Howard)
timvp
07-15-2012, 10:50 AM
Yeah, I've pretty much given up hope on Scola. 95% he gets claimed, tbh.
dunkman
07-15-2012, 12:24 PM
The message Scola sent when he didn't clear up the knee injury with the MRI, is very clear. After the Odom fiasco, its hard to understand why the Mavs want to force things with Scola. If he gets claimed, Scola will lose at least $5M over 3 years.
ElNono
07-15-2012, 01:32 PM
Scola practices with teammates
"Luis (Scola) recovered well from his knee injury. A serious injury was discarded and he'll be available to practice with teammates today. If he feels well, he won't undergo the MRI scheduled for tomorrow" said Diego Grippo, the national team doctor.
Scola practices with teammates
"Luis (Scola) recovered well from his knee injury. A serious injury was discarded and he'll be available to practice with teammates today. If he feels well, he won't undergo the MRI scheduled for tomorrow" said Diego Grippo, the national team doctor.
He needs to keep it secret for three more hours.
Nathan89
07-15-2012, 01:47 PM
I don't know what makes more sense... A team that wasn't willing to pay more than 2.1mil bidding on Scola or the Mavs who have no need for him making a bid.
Doesn't look likely at all that he will go unclaimed.
ElNono
07-15-2012, 01:57 PM
One would argue that at $3 million/season he would be a good trade bait even a year from now...
ace3g
07-15-2012, 02:14 PM
Would have been nice if there was at least 1 more player on the amnesty waiver wire (preferably PF).
slick'81
07-15-2012, 02:38 PM
Yeah, I've pretty much given up hope on Scola. 95% he gets claimed, tbh.
bbb u cant change fate
MR.SILVER&BLack
07-15-2012, 02:47 PM
Oh well. it was nice to dream about a 4 big lineup of Duncan, Scola, Splitter, & Diaw.
Hopefully reports of Spurs interested in Kenyon Martin will come out soon.
When is it that we find out if Scola got picked up off waivers? Thought it was around this time today, but I haven't heard anything.
Kindergarten Cop
07-15-2012, 03:34 PM
When is it that we find out if Scola got picked up off waivers? Thought it was around this time today, but I haven't heard anything.
4:00pm CST (in about 25 minutes)
timvp
07-15-2012, 03:39 PM
I'll guess the Hornets with a bid of $3.8 million win the Scola sweepstakes.
bklynspursfan
07-15-2012, 03:56 PM
Cavs may end up with him
Cavs may end up with him
have you heard anything?
ploto
07-15-2012, 04:02 PM
Did find a site that said Cavs did put in a bid.
That's who i think gets him (Cavs)
bklynspursfan
07-15-2012, 04:05 PM
have you heard anything?
Just saw this earlier
Sports 24/7
@WiseGuyLA
Cavs have placed a bid on PF Luis Scola. Guess LeBron winning a title has Dan Gilbert's trigger happy this off season.
http://twitter.com/WiseGuyLA/status/224604447274315777
slick'81
07-15-2012, 04:05 PM
lol ferry not wanting him in cle then cavs getting him years later
bring in darko
Clipper Nation
07-15-2012, 04:07 PM
The Cavs just became even more annoying tbh....
Just saw this earlier
http://twitter.com/WiseGuyLA/status/224604447274315777
Fake report from a fake source. Also reported OJ Mayo was going to LA in a S&T for McRoberts and Blake...
Poor Scola went from bad to worst.
bklynspursfan
07-15-2012, 04:10 PM
Fake report from a fake source. Also reported OJ Mayo was going to LA in a S&T for McRoberts and Blake...
Thanks for the heads up... So they didn't place a bid?
bklynspursfan
07-15-2012, 04:10 PM
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Phoenix Suns are awarded ex-Rockets forward Luis Scola, per league sources. Houston used amnesty clause on Scola Friday.
DesignatedT
07-15-2012, 04:10 PM
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Phoenix Suns are awarded ex-Rockets forward Luis Scola, per league sources. Houston used amnesty clause on Scola Friday.
Thanks for the heads up... So they didn't place a bid?
Wouldn't be surprised if they did. But that's not a reliable source.
EDIT: Damn you, PHX.
Destro
07-15-2012, 04:11 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
The NBA's 30 teams have just been notified that Phoenix has won waiver auction for Luis Scola
bklynspursfan
07-15-2012, 04:11 PM
Wow... Didn't see that coming
ploto
07-15-2012, 04:11 PM
Fake report from a fake source. Also reported OJ Mayo was going to LA in a S&T for McRoberts and Blake...
I saw it elsewhere.
Clipper Nation
07-15-2012, 04:11 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
The NBA's 30 teams have just been notified that Phoenix has won waiver auction for Luis Scola
:lol Gilbert
ploto
07-15-2012, 04:12 PM
Phoenix wanted Scola back when the Spurs had his rights.
jesterbobman
07-15-2012, 04:15 PM
Not shocking that he was claimed, great value as a trade asset in a year.
its actually a decent fit. He's reunited to Dragic. Looks like suns may add Mayo and Beasley to go along with the Polish guy. Not a bad starting 5.
spurs10
07-15-2012, 04:16 PM
Phoenix wanted Scola back when the Spurs had his rights.
Moving right along.....Turiaf??
Duncan2177
07-15-2012, 04:27 PM
Next up Martin???
Bruno
07-15-2012, 04:34 PM
Well, it's better that he goes to an irrelevant team than to a contender.
rascal
07-15-2012, 04:34 PM
I was wrong!
TD 21
07-15-2012, 04:35 PM
It's amazing how dumb some of these front offices are. The Suns should be bottoming out for a few years and trying to get as high of picks as possible, in order to build some semblance of a young core that at least makes them respectable in the future. Instead, they've blocked (unless they're going to trade Frye) one of their few young players with upside from being in the rotation (Morris) and seem to be attempting to put together a team that get's them 6th-8th picks for a few years. In other words, it's almost as if they're intentionally attempting to be perpetually stuck in no man's land.
Mel_13
07-15-2012, 04:36 PM
To add Luis Scola, the Suns made Josh Childress and amnesty cut, source said.
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen
Well, it's better that he goes to an irrelevant team than to a contender.
I bet you he is not a happy person right now
MR.SILVER&BLack
07-15-2012, 04:43 PM
It's amazing how dumb some of these front offices are. The Suns should be bottoming out for a few years and trying to get as high of picks as possible, in order to build some semblance of a young core that at least makes them respectable in the future. Instead, they've blocked (unless they're going to trade Frye) one of their few young players with upside from being in the rotation (Morris) and seem to be attempting to put together a team that get's them 6th-8th picks for a few years. In other words, it's almost as if they're intentionally attempting to be perpetually stuck in no man's land.
:lol Phoenix suns turn into the phoenix Rockets. Scola back with Dragic & one of the Morris Brothers.
Mel_13
07-15-2012, 04:44 PM
I bet you he is not a happy person right now
Could have been worse. Phoenix is better than Cleveland, Sacramento, or Charlotte.
Bruno
07-15-2012, 04:45 PM
I bet you he is not a happy person right now
Yeah it sucks for him. At least he will have some fun with Argentina NT.
On a more global note, this amnesty system is really bad for the players. If there is a new round of amnesty in a future CBA, players should fight for a better systems.
Xylus
07-15-2012, 04:46 PM
I bet you he is not a happy person right now
Oh, he's happy. Great weather, good looking women, and a fountain of youth training staff.
Bruno
07-15-2012, 04:47 PM
Spurs should too give Phoenix a call to see if Fry is available.
Could have been worse. Phoenix is better than Cleveland, Sacramento, or Charlotte.
I agree but we don't know how Phoenix will be without Nash for the first time in seven years
Mel_13
07-15-2012, 04:58 PM
I agree but we don't know how Phoenix will be without Nash for the first time in seven years
They have Dragic and they'll still play the same style. At any rate, Scola has been on three straight lottery teams, so it can't get too much worse.
Budkin
07-15-2012, 04:59 PM
Goddammit.
DPG21920
07-15-2012, 05:10 PM
'twas too good to be true
baseline bum
07-15-2012, 05:16 PM
Spurs should too give Phoenix a call to see if Fry is available.
So they could have a second Matt Bonner? I'll pass.
ploto
07-15-2012, 05:20 PM
I won't feel bad for a guy getting paid $30 million dollars to play basketball and live in Phoenix.
ploto
07-15-2012, 05:22 PM
For the curious:
Stein said it’s not immedately known how many teams bid for Scola, beyond the Suns and Dallas Mavericks.
ducks
07-15-2012, 05:23 PM
I was wrong!
nothing unusally
timvp
07-15-2012, 05:28 PM
Oh, he's happy. Great weather, good looking women, and a fountain of youth training staff.
Add in good facilities, an uptempo offense and little pressure to win and Scola should be thrilled ... as long as he's fine with winning ~30 games this season ... which he probably should be considering he's been a Rocket for his whole career.
Too bad for the Spurs but the chances weren't great to begin with. The hopes rose after Dallas got Brand but still was unlikely.
As for the Suns, locking up a 32-year old power forward on the decline doesn't make much sense but whatever. Who knows what Babby/Sarver are even trying to do.
ducks
07-15-2012, 05:32 PM
maybe spurs should ask if they want manu
suns would overpay they are stupid
Nathan89
07-15-2012, 05:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nNuHC.gif
ElNono
07-15-2012, 05:34 PM
Just got back home and heard the news... good luck to Luis in Phoenix
maybe spurs should ask if they want manu
suns would overpay they are stupid
how about tony parker for dragic+scola?
Mel_13
07-15-2012, 05:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nNuHC.gif
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201213
ElNono
07-15-2012, 05:38 PM
how about tony parker for dragic+scola?
they're not *THAT* stupid, tbh
Looks like the concurrently amnestied Childress. He was a guy I would have liked several years ago.
slick'81
07-15-2012, 06:44 PM
agreed u have a young markieef morris and overpaid sucking frye but u want scola fkcn idiots
Wild Cobra Kai
07-15-2012, 06:48 PM
Looks like the concurrently amnestied Childress. He was a guy I would have liked several years ago.
That ship has not only sailed, it's has sunk, and been sold for scrap. JC has been AWFUL since his return from overseas.
agreed u have a young markieef morris and overpaid sucking frye but u want scola fkcn idiots
i am glad scola went to Phoenix because dallas was the other team bidding for him.
Sean Cagney
07-15-2012, 07:03 PM
I was wrong!
I knew that as soon as you said Spurs will get Scola, knew they would not get him. You said though it was not going to satisfy the main need which is a Defensive Big, so you are right on that end of things. I would have liked to have had him yes, but as you said it was not a must.
rascal
07-15-2012, 07:26 PM
I knew that as soon as you said Spurs will get Scola, knew they would not get him. You said though it was not going to satisfy the main need which is a Defensive Big, so you are right on that end of things. I would have liked to have had him yes, but as you said it was not a must.
I am happy the Spurs didn't get him. They get him and that would probably be it for adding more players on the frontline. The Spurs need a defensive minded shot blocking post presence.
Scola was not going to fill that need.
Scola is on the wrong side of 30 and will be in decline. He is already not the most athleticlly inclined and that will only get worse.
Wild Cobra Kai
07-15-2012, 07:30 PM
Spurs should too give Phoenix a call to see if Fry is available.
Black Bonner? No thanks.
dunkman
07-15-2012, 07:38 PM
Too bad the Spurs didn't have chances to land him. The Spurs lack a big that can produce some offense in the playoffs. There is Duncan, Diaw is good too, Splitter maybe will play better, Blair is a liability, and Bonner sincerely lacks confidence.
gambit1990
07-15-2012, 08:04 PM
Spurs should too give Phoenix a call to see if Fry is available.
i've always liked frye. but i don't see a situation where they'd want to trade him for what we have.
Sean Cagney
07-15-2012, 08:16 PM
I am happy the Spurs didn't get him. They get him and that would probably be it for adding more players on the frontline. The Spurs need a defensive minded shot blocking post presence.
Scola was not going to fill that need.
Scola is on the wrong side of 30 and will be in decline. He is already not the most athleticlly inclined and that will only get worse.
Thats true, still I would rather have him than say a Bonner but thats not going to happen. I agree we need a defensive minded Big, it's a shame they have not added on in a long time.
Mel_13
07-15-2012, 09:38 PM
NBA source says Suns winning bid for Scola was $13 million for three years. Minimum was $10 million for three yrs. Yes, #Cavs did make a bid
https://twitter.com/PDcavsinsider
timvp
07-15-2012, 10:19 PM
$4.3M per year? That's not even THAT great of a discount, tbh. He'd probably get $5M on the open market.
therealtruth
07-16-2012, 05:19 AM
Aren't the Suns overstocked with PF's. Frye, Morris, Beasley, Scola, Warrick. Plus they still have Lopez.
Mel_13
07-16-2012, 06:10 AM
Aren't the Suns overstocked with PF's. Frye, Morris, Beasley, Scola, Warrick. Plus they still have Lopez.
They are. Claiming Scola for that price is just the latest in a series of moves characteristic of a truly clueless FO.
mountainballer
07-16-2012, 06:16 AM
Aren't the Suns overstocked with PF's. Frye, Morris, Beasley, Scola, Warrick. Plus they still have Lopez.
we will see some more moves. and Beasely will likely play mostly SF, like he did in Minny, and if they lose Lopez, Frye will play some center minutes.
Warrick should be the odd man out, but his salary is pretty high for what he offers, so it will be hard to find a taker.
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