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Mr.Bottomtooth
07-14-2012, 08:13 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
The Knicks are considering signing UFA Raymond Felton and letting RFA Jeremy Lin walk to the Rockets, a source close to situation confirms.
wtf

Kai
07-14-2012, 08:17 PM
again, :lmao Alex Kennedy

racm
07-14-2012, 08:19 PM
:lmao Knicks
:lmao letting the Rockets get another Asian to milk
:lmao wanting Felton back
:lmao fatass
:lmao no D'Antoni

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-14-2012, 08:20 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Knicks close to obtaining point guard Raymond Felton in sign and trade with Blazers, source tells Y! Sports.

Kai
07-14-2012, 08:23 PM
lol well fuck me.

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 08:24 PM
CROFL Morey/Alexander :lmao

racm
07-14-2012, 08:25 PM
So much for Linsanity... :lmao

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 08:26 PM
lol well fuck me.

http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/092010/jackass-fireworks.gif

Clipper Nation
07-14-2012, 08:27 PM
:lol Knicks
:lol Losing their biggest moneymaker since Ewing after a year

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Marc J. Spears (http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo): Jeremy Lin appears close to being a Houston Rocket with Raymond Felton to NY deal close to being done, sources tell Y! 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/statuses/224313803268038658)

Kai
07-14-2012, 08:30 PM
Who needs Dwight when you've got

http://cdn2.geekarmy.com/photos/chinese_crowd_013.jpg

ElNono
07-14-2012, 08:31 PM
:lol Dwight Howard pipe dream
:lol settling for chink in the armor

racm
07-14-2012, 08:36 PM
If Lin does go to Houston they will have two point guards with knee problems. :rollin:

pass1st
07-14-2012, 08:38 PM
Congrats on the 3+ time all-star, rox

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 08:38 PM
Al Iannazzone (http://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone): The Knicks are not matching the offer sheet to Landry Fields, his agent said. now (http://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/statuses/224316625388711936)

Kai
07-14-2012, 08:39 PM
If Lin does go to Houston they will have two point guards with knee problems. :rollin:

Irrelevant. A healthy Lin is not worth that contract.

baseline bum
07-14-2012, 08:43 PM
Al Iannazzone (http://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone): The Knicks are not matching the offer sheet to Landry Fields, his agent said. now (http://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/statuses/224316625388711936)

CROFL Colangelo; worst GM in the league, even if you counted Otis Smith.

pass1st
07-14-2012, 08:44 PM
Irrelevant. A healthy Lin is not worth that contract.

I'm guessing this might hurt the Howard talks with Lin pulling 5-5-15

Seriously, 15 in his last year? :lmao

racm
07-14-2012, 08:44 PM
So the Knicks look like the D'Antoni Knicks, except their coach LOVES isos for want of a competent PG.

jeebus
07-14-2012, 08:46 PM
wtf

Someone get Isiah Thomas back in control of the Knicks.

racm
07-14-2012, 08:50 PM
But he'll overpay for role players!

..wait, Novak DID get a 4 yr/15m contract right?

ElNono
07-14-2012, 08:53 PM
But he'll overpay for role players!

..wait, Novak DID get a 4 yr/15m contract right?

That's what Bonner got from the Spurs.... going rate for soft, pussy 'stretch-4'...

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 08:54 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.


:lmao WOW

Clipper Nation
07-14-2012, 08:56 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.


:lmao WOW

:lmao :lmao :lmao

THAT is trolling at its finest, tbh... gotta give props to Morey for that...

pass1st
07-14-2012, 08:58 PM
Well now knicks gotta just keep Lin

Stalin
07-14-2012, 09:10 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.


:lmao WOW

:lol 10/10 troll job, but how did rockets pull this off, why 8 mill them and 15 for knicks?

Jeremy
07-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.


:lmao WOW

So what, Knicks said they would match any offer up to $1 billion. What happened to that? LOL. :lol

Spurs9
07-14-2012, 09:40 PM
Houston has the asian population to support Lin, its best if NY signs Felton.

InRareForm
07-14-2012, 09:52 PM
done deal.

jeebus
07-14-2012, 09:56 PM
Felt:lmaon

I was wondering what Zach Lowe was talking about when he tweeted this


@ZachLowe_SI
"Grunwald speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom. He'll blend in, disappear. You'll never see him again."

ElNono
07-14-2012, 10:09 PM
done deal.

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN

The Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Dan Gadzuric, sources tell the Daily News

scanry
07-14-2012, 10:25 PM
Lin has practically played 23 games in the NBA and has signed an offer sheet that will pay him $25 mil (~ $8.33 mil avg) over the first three years of his playing career. Dude isn't an Harvard grad for nothing. He probably doesn't need an agent.

Wicked Nerd Pissah!! :lol

This has nothing to do with Morey, the moron just wants China's dough.

racm
07-14-2012, 10:50 PM
Lin has practically played 23 games in the NBA and has signed an offer sheet that will pay him $25 mil (~ $8.33 mil avg) over the first three years of his playing career. Dude isn't an Harvard grad for nothing. He probably doesn't need an agent.

Wicked Nerd Pissah!! :lol

This has nothing to do with Morey, the moron just wants China's dough.

Harvard Economics FTW! :lmao

Trainwreck2100
07-14-2012, 10:54 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.


:lmao WOW

Isn't that the same loophole use for asik

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 11:02 PM
Isn't that the same loophole use for asik
I believe so. I just hope Chicago matches or Rockets rescind, if they can do that.

Mel_13
07-14-2012, 11:03 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.


:lmao WOW

:lol @ found loophole. Anyone can read the section on the Gilbert Arena Provision in Larry Coon's FAQ.

In short, Lin gets all his money with either team, but the cap hits for the two teams are apportioned differently. For the Knicks it would have been 5/5/15, for the Rox it will be 8.3/8.3/8.3.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 11:08 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine



Also told Rockets, even if they unexpectedly land Lin AND Omer Asik, still think they've got Dwight trade offers (yes, plural) to please ORL

AFBlue
07-14-2012, 11:09 PM
:lol 10/10 troll job, but how did rockets pull this off, why 8 mill them and 15 for knicks?

If Rockets sign Lin to a contract for three years and $25M, they can pay him $5M in yr 1, $5M in yr 2, and $15M in yr 3. For the Rockets cap it counts the average ($8.33M/yr), but for NY it would count actuals...so in 2014/15, Lin would count for $15M against the cap, and as a luxury tax team that $15M could represent more like $40M.

BRHornet45
07-14-2012, 11:13 PM
Houston has the asian population to support Lin

son they'll get outside support like they did with Yao, but Houston is not a heavily Asian populated city ...


NYC - 486,463

Houston - 29,429



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_significant_Chinese_Ameri can_populations

jag
07-14-2012, 11:16 PM
Yeah, it's funny that they trolled NY, but now they're stuck paying Lin's yellow ass $25 million. I'm trying to figure out who actually won here.

Stalin
07-14-2012, 11:19 PM
lin is like einstein in the nba, with that harvard degree monkeyball stands no chance

Nathan89
07-14-2012, 11:22 PM
Lin Contract > Players good enough to get drafted

racm
07-14-2012, 11:25 PM
lin is like einstein in the nba, with that harvard degree monkeyball stands no chance

If Duncan can dominate the NBA with a psychology degree...


Lin Contract > Players good enough to get drafted

:lol Danny Green got 3yrs/12 mil

BRHornet45
07-14-2012, 11:27 PM
sons you have to keep in mind that the Rockets (or any NBA team interested in Lin) are not bringing him in to improve the team. they are bringing him in for the amount of revenue that comes with the fact that the media is racist and worships him for one reason and one reason only ... he is a semi-decent baller who just so happens to be Asian.

Realistically Lin is probably "worth" around $3-5 million per year for his performance on the court, but he is worth at least double that for the amount of media attention and extra revenue that comes with the fact that he is Asian. that is what Houston is paying for. they get a decent player to fill the spot and a shitload of extra attention with it.

Kai
07-14-2012, 11:31 PM
Yeah, it's funny that they trolled NY, but now they're stuck paying Lin's yellow ass $25 million. I'm trying to figure out who actually won here.

The only winning party here is Jeremy Lin.

racm
07-14-2012, 11:33 PM
Jeremy Lin's autobiography should read "How I parlayed a month of good basketball playing in the NBA's biggest media market into a huge contract".

Nathan89
07-14-2012, 11:35 PM
Houston had a good pg on a good contract for the next couple of years. They go rid of him to overpay Lin.

Plan A- Get a star in the league--Failed

Plan B- Put together a shit squad--In action

Mel_13
07-14-2012, 11:36 PM
Yeah, it's funny that they trolled NY, but now they're stuck paying Lin's yellow ass $25 million. I'm trying to figure out who actually won here.

If it was a troll job, it failed IMO. Houston could have had Dragic at 8M per year and let him walk over a 4th year. Then they traded Lowry, who will get less than 6M for the next two years, for a draft pick. Then they used the amnesty on Scola to save 21M over the next three years. All to give 25M over the next three years to Jeremy Lin.

racm
07-14-2012, 11:38 PM
:lmao Morey
:lmao dumbest FO in the Southwest Division
:lmao Advanced Stats
:lmao no long term planning
:lmao outwitted by the Grizzlies FO

ElNono
07-14-2012, 11:49 PM
sons you have to keep in mind that the Rockets (or any NBA team interested in Lin) are not bringing him in to improve the team. they are bringing him in for the amount of revenue that comes with the fact that the media is racist and worships him for one reason and one reason only ... he is a semi-decent baller who just so happens to be Asian.

Realistically Lin is probably "worth" around $3-5 million per year for his performance on the court, but he is worth at least double that for the amount of media attention and extra revenue that comes with the fact that he is Asian. that is what Houston is paying for. they get a decent player to fill the spot and a shitload of extra attention with it.

Son, I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota, the Rockets sponsor, had a hand in all this...

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 11:51 PM
If it was a troll job, it failed IMO. Houston could have had Dragic at 8M per year and let him walk over a 4th year. Then they traded Lowry, who will get less than 6M for the next two years, for a draft pick. Then they used the amnesty on Scola to save 21M over the next three years. All to give 25M over the next three years to Jeremy Lin.
It's all about puttin asses in the seats. And Scola was going to be amnestied anyway Lin or not.

Mel_13
07-14-2012, 11:58 PM
It's all about puttin asses in the seats. And Scola was going to be amnestied anyway Lin or not.

:downspin:

BRHornet45
07-14-2012, 11:59 PM
Son, I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota, the Rockets sponsor, had a hand in all this...

son you may be joking, but only a fool would think that these teams interested in Lin are only interested in his on the court performance. the Rockets could find numerous guards for less than $4 million a year right now to fill the role and do a decent job, but Lin sells tickets and brings media attention so they will pay him for that reason. some may say they are "overpaying him", but I'm sure all of the extra revenue and media and foreign attention he brings will be worth it.

hell I mean Houston would probably still pay Yao to sit on the bench if they knew it would sell their jerseys in China.

pass1st
07-15-2012, 12:01 AM
son you may be joking, but only a fool would think that these teams interested in Lin are only interested in his on the court performance. the Rockets could find numerous guards for less than $4 million a year right now to fill the role and do a decent job, but Lin sells tickets and brings media attention so they will pay him for that reason. some may say they are "overpaying him", but I'm sure all of the extra revenue and media and foreign attention he brings will be worth it.

hell I mean Houston would probably still pay Yao to sit on the bench if they knew it would sell their jerseys in China.

Son, considering how many tickets he sells for the Clippers, is monkeyball overpaid at almost 20mil a year?

BRHornet45
07-15-2012, 12:04 AM
and sons to be quite frank ... Houston sports fans need something to go see other than a potential no-hitter every night by the visiting team AGAINST that joke of a MLB team the Astros.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 12:06 AM
and sons to be quite frank ... Houston sports fans need something to go see other than a potential no-hitter every night by the visiting team AGAINST that joke of a MLB team the Astros.
Son, God Bless You.

BRHornet45
07-15-2012, 12:06 AM
Son, considering how many tickets he sells for the Clippers, is monkeyball overpaid at almost 20mil a year?

son I'm not a fan by any means, but I believe Griffin is worth the money. If I had to break down his $20 million per year worth ...


On the Court Performance - $8M

Off the Court Media Attention/Ticket & Merchandise Revenue - $12M


say what you want, but Griffin is in every other car and Subway commercial and brings in a lot of money for the Clippers.

racm
07-15-2012, 12:15 AM
Yeah, you won't get anywhere in the NBA if you don't either sell shoes or play for a big-market team.

Mel_13
07-15-2012, 12:25 AM
son I'm not a fan by any means, but I believe Griffin is worth the money. If I had to break down his $20 million per year worth ...


On the Court Performance - $8M

Off the Court Media Attention/Ticket & Merchandise Revenue - $12M


say what you want, but Griffin is in every other car and Subway commercial and brings in a lot of money for the Clippers.

Plus the combination of Griffin and Paul has changed the Clippers from a long-running joke into a playoff team and a legitimate destination for free agents. That has tremendous value.

pass1st
07-15-2012, 12:36 AM
son I'm not a fan by any means, but I believe Griffin is worth the money. If I had to break down his $20 million per year worth ...


On the Court Performance - $8M

Off the Court Media Attention/Ticket & Merchandise Revenue - $12M


say what you want, but Griffin is in every other car and Subway commercial and brings in a lot of money for the Clippers.

Son, I agree. Hopefully Davis shuts his ass down when the season starts.

racm
07-15-2012, 12:41 AM
Everytime Griffin goes for a highlight reel dunk I bet Davis goes in and swats it.

BRHornet45
07-15-2012, 12:54 AM
sons Griffin don't want to come down here. last time he was here both Kaman and J-Smith stomped his ass out. hell even that dude Beli got a flagrant foul on thuggin-n-buggin Kenyon Martin that game...

NO MONKEYBALLING HERE BITCH!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7259/7007729261_10c154d037_o.gif

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BLAKE-HIT.gif

"Clippers Stung by Hornets 97-90"

Kai
07-15-2012, 01:17 AM
Ah, it all makes sense now. Morey has Boston roots, working for the Celtics, going to MIT. He doesn't care about the Rockets, he's just out to stick it to NYC no matter what. Knicks going match any offer for Lin? lol how bout a 3 yr contract that can cost you $40M in luxury tax in one year. Nets gonna trade for Dwight? lol fuck that we'll trade our whole team for him.

I imagine Morey is in a luxury suite in Vegas smoking cigars with Big Papi, Brady and Matt Damon laughing their ass off watching Sportscenter right now.

dbreiden83080
07-15-2012, 01:32 AM
If they let Lin go they are fuckin morons.. The fans love him, he is box office.. Melo will never EVER lead them to a chip he is not good enough so putting guys around him you think may fit better is almost pointless as well..


He's not a great player...

Latarian Milton
07-15-2012, 01:41 AM
if he has a great year in houston we're gonna see the noisy return of them fans who're been mute for years since yao went broke in 09, and there will come along big incomes in commercial, broadcast rights etc... those "rockets fans" will return to lick their hero's dick, regardless of how many games the team wins

ElNono
07-15-2012, 01:47 AM
From the NY Times today:


It has been widely assumed that the Knicks would match Houston’s offer and keep Lin, despite a salary increase to $14.9 million in the third year of the deal. Team officials have said as much for weeks, both before and after the Rockets made the offer.

Two reports late Saturday cast doubt on that assumption. The first came via the Twitter account of a South Carolina television reporter, Mark Haggard, who said that Felton had told him that the Knicks planned to let Lin leave for Houston. A short time later, Yahoo Sports reported that Lin “appears close” to joining the Rockets, in light of Felton’s deal.

Kai
07-15-2012, 01:49 AM
if he has a great year in houston we're gonna see the noisy return of them fans who're been mute for years since yao went broke in 09, and there will come along big incomes in commercial, broadcast rights etc... those "rockets fans" will return to lick their hero's dick, regardless of how many games the team wins

If he has a great year in Houston it's gonna be worse than that. ESPN give Lin the Tebow treatment.

BRHornet45
07-15-2012, 01:55 AM
sons again the bottom line for Houston is that this is good business ... God damn good business.

Kai
07-15-2012, 01:59 AM
sons again the bottom line for Houston is that this is good business ... God damn good business.

Unless Lin shits the bed like we all half expect him to.

LkrFan
07-15-2012, 02:01 AM
:lol Dwight Howard pipe dream
:lol settling for chink in the armor

:rollin :lmao:rollin

Crytek
07-15-2012, 03:56 AM
Felt:lmaon

I was wondering what Zach Lowe was talking about when he tweeted this


@ZachLowe_SI
"Grunwald speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom. He'll blend in, disappear. You'll never see him again."

hOmpLholhvI

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 09:32 AM
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
It is "highly doubtful" NY will match Jeremy Lin's offer sheet with HOU, source tells Y! Sports. NY likely to wait 3 days before declining.

Clipper Nation
07-15-2012, 09:35 AM
Plus the combination of Griffin and Paul has changed the Clippers from a long-running joke into a playoff team and a legitimate destination for free agents. That has tremendous value.

And Griffin has been a 20/10 guy since minute 1 in the league, and he isn't even a polished or complete player yet...

GuerillaBlack
07-15-2012, 09:51 AM
son they'll get outside support like they did with Yao, but Houston is not a heavily Asian populated city ...


NYC - 486,463

Houston - 29,429



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_significant_Chinese_Ameri can_populations

It is for its size. You only posted the city Chinese populations anyway. Houston is only behind nyc, la, and the bay area for Asians pop.

dbestpro
07-15-2012, 10:25 AM
Lin has not shown the ability to be able to play off the ball when the ball is in the hands of Anthony or Stoudamire. Kidd, even at his age, will get these guys in the right position. With the team as it is structured, the Knicks are better off without Lin.

Houston will simply get crushed if they are not able to get Bynum or Howard with or without Lin and as a result Lin, facing a lot of double teams will be considered a bust due to the allstar expectations.

Shastafarian
07-15-2012, 11:04 AM
Felt:lmaon

I was wondering what Zach Lowe was talking about when he tweeted this
@ZachLowe_SI
"Grunwald speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom. He'll blend in, disappear. You'll never see him again."

The pen is mightier than the sword!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PpNKNkdKU6g/S5R1OT25POI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/KEC9WD1vnfQ/s320/MarcusBrody.jpg

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-15-2012, 11:06 AM
"It's not up to me. It's up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract."
-Carmelo Anthony on the Lin situation

:lmao ridiculous contracts
:lmao making the team worse and signing a max extension

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-15-2012, 11:10 AM
Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
I asked Melo if #Knicks would be OK at PG with J-Kidd & Felton: "I mean, what other point guards are we going to get at this point?"

@rodboone: Melo on Knicks/Lin: "It's not up to me. It's up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract."

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-15-2012, 11:11 AM
Talk about throwing him under the bus. Carmelo is being a cocksucker on a whole new level.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-15-2012, 11:30 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47791/felton-over-lin-are-the-knicks-lin-sane

Technique
07-15-2012, 11:33 AM
Lin is the one that threw the Knicks under the bus, his priorities don't match what the Knicks are looking for. He wants to milk every cent from his Asian market, not improve as a basketball player on a playoff team.

Besides, I'd take Felton over Lin any day of the week. When Felton was with the Knicks he ran precise pick & rolls with Amar'e, he played hard. He's the kind of player that needs the limelight to motivate him, which is why he didn't do well with the Blazers. I fully expect him to be in his top physical form this season.

Jodelo
07-15-2012, 11:35 AM
Anthony is a faggot!

Technique
07-15-2012, 11:36 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47791/felton-over-lin-are-the-knicks-lin-sane


Are they really using Lin's completely misleading small sample size as a legitimate comparison?

The material is certainly dry this time of year.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 11:41 AM
M:loll:lol

pass1st
07-15-2012, 11:44 AM
Lin is the one that threw the Knicks under the bus, his priorities don't match what the Knicks are looking for. He wants to milk every cent from his Asian market, not improve as a basketball player on a playoff team.

Besides, I'd take Felton over Lin any day of the week. When Felton was with the Knicks he ran precise pick & rolls with Amar'e, he played hard. He's the kind of player that needs the limelight to motivate him, which is why he didn't do well with the Blazers. I fully expect him to be in his top physical form this season.

You done sucking Lin's wonton?

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 11:59 AM
https://p.twimg.com/Ax2-9dACMAEHREa.jpg

Venti Quattro
07-15-2012, 12:03 PM
:lol Felton
:lol full circle

pass1st
07-15-2012, 12:09 PM
Knicks should have nabbed THE SAVIOR before he became a starter for team Jordan

Kai
07-15-2012, 12:22 PM
Lin is the one that threw the Knicks under the bus, his priorities don't match what the Knicks are looking for. He wants to milk every cent from his Asian market, not improve as a basketball player on a playoff team.

God forbid the dude go out and find the best contract he can when his coach claims they would match up to a billion dollars. Shitty take, Sparkle Tiger.

Indazone
07-15-2012, 12:35 PM
Source: N.Y. to let Jeremy Lin walk

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...et-source-says

Small sample size or not, even with his turnover prone first year rookie year. You can't deny the kid's potential upside.


inarvjDJuHo

Jeremy Lin scored more points in his first five starts than any other player since the NBA merger with the ABA. A look at some notable players through their first five starts.

Player; FG-FGA; FG% Pts; PPG

Jeremy Lin; 49-98; 50%; 136; 27....2

Shaquille O'Neal; 48-84; 57.1%; 129; 25.8

Allen Iverson; 37-79; 46.8%; 107; 21.4

LeBron James; 34-78; 43.6%; 84; 16.8

Kobe Bryant; 27-60; 45.0%; 80; 16.0

Steve Nash; 15-33; 45.5%; 40; 8.0

Note: In his first five starts, Michael Jordan scored 116 points.

Source: Basketball-reference.com

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 12:38 PM
Melo is a faggot though. Wouldn't be surprised if Lin doesn't get matched, that he had something to do with it.

Indazone
07-15-2012, 12:47 PM
Lin is currently working out in the Bay Area with his longtime trainer, Brandynn Williams, on everything from dribbling to pick-and-roll maneuvering. He said he's trying to help Lin be more efficient making plays, in order to cut down on his high turnover rate from last season in his first-time starter role.

Williams thinks the Knicks will match because they'll recognize "he's legit and want him back."

"He looks really good and he's working hard," Williams told ESPN New York. "All he does is work out and work out some more. He will have a better year this year. He will always be successful because he lives in the gym.

"The world has not seen anything yet."

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 12:48 PM
lol at Stephen A. Smith angrier than usual.

Kai
07-15-2012, 12:55 PM
Sam Amick

On the Jeremy Lin front, I'm told as of minutes ago that the Knicks - who added Raymond Felton to their point guard mix last night - have still not informed the restricted free agent point guard on whether or not they'll match Houston's three-year, $25.1 million offer sheet. On the other side, it's certainly worth noting that Felton's camp - while not knowing the Knicks' decision with total certainty - is under the impression that New York is not likely to match. New York has until 11:59.59 on Tuesday night to decide.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Marc Berman While Woodson said Lin wears the starter jersey when training camp opens in October, Carmelo piped in it might be good for Jeremy to come off bench behind Kidd. “If [Lin] comes off the bench, playing behind a guy like Jason Kidd, playing under a guy and learning from Kidd, he should take advantage of this opportunity —just having JKidd on our team,’’ Anthony said. No doubt Melo has ball more in his hands when Kidd is on court.

:lol Melo

Mark in Austin
07-15-2012, 01:11 PM
Goddamn Mello is a Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_.

ElNono
07-15-2012, 01:50 PM
From a basketball standpoint, M:lollo is spot on. That's a ridiculous contract for an undrafted kid with only 23 NBA games under his belt, whose only noteworthy achievement is bukkaking a second tier West team at home...

tlongII
07-15-2012, 02:23 PM
Lin is the one that threw the Knicks under the bus, his priorities don't match what the Knicks are looking for. He wants to milk every cent from his Asian market, not improve as a basketball player on a playoff team.

Besides, I'd take Felton over Lin any day of the week. When Felton was with the Knicks he ran precise pick & rolls with Amar'e, he played hard. He's the kind of player that needs the limelight to motivate him, which is why he didn't do well with the Blazers. I fully expect him to be in his top physical form this season.

Felton absolutely sucks. The only thing he does is eat.

Kai
07-15-2012, 02:35 PM
Felton absolutely sucks. The only thing he does is eat.

http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/raymond-felton-cupcake.jpg

jeebus
07-15-2012, 02:50 PM
http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/raymond-felton-cupcake.jpg

I really hope Baron Davis doesn't retire. NY has the potential to have the fattest team in NBA history here. If they still had Curry, it'd be no contest.

Fundamental Dream
07-15-2012, 03:19 PM
Rockets fans over at clutchfans are so damn stupid. You would think that Lin is Magic Johnson from reading some of the BS over there. Homer fans are disgusting.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 03:20 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Melo to Y! on Lin:"Its up to ownership to match, not me.I'm tired of people trying to blame me for the fact that the Knicks might not match"

:lol

Wild Cobra Kai
07-15-2012, 03:47 PM
I really hope Baron Davis doesn't retire. NY has the potential to have the fattest team in NBA history here. If they still had Curry, it'd be no contest.

:lol Curry is such a gourmand, he's even named after a food.

Jodelo
07-15-2012, 04:04 PM
Knicks won't match: http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8168185/2012-nba-free-agency-new-york-knicks-match-jeremy-lin-houston-rockets-offer-sheet-sources-say

Killakobe81
07-15-2012, 04:56 PM
I really hope Baron Davis doesn't retire. NY has the potential to have the fattest team in NBA history here. If they still had Curry, it'd be no contest.

IIRC didn't they also have sweetney at one point

timtonymanu
07-15-2012, 05:29 PM
IIRC didn't they also have sweetney at one point

Correct. But that was when he wasn't such a fatass.

http://www.flat-abdominal-exercises.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Micheal-Sweetney-Before-and-After.jpg

Spurs9
07-15-2012, 06:19 PM
Correct. But that was when he wasn't such a fatass.

http://www.flat-abdominal-exercises.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Micheal-Sweetney-Before-and-After.jpg
Damn he makes baby Davis look like hes anorexic

jeebus
07-15-2012, 06:31 PM
sons, the Knicks all time tubs squad

PG: Raymond Felton

http://geocities.ws/mcrib/FeltonBigMac.png

SG: Baron Davis

http://theknickswall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Baron_DavisKnee_Injury_Knicks.jpg

SF: Jerome "Snacks" James

http://i51.tinypic.com/2qdpqw0.jpg

PF: Michael Sweetney

http://fakeposters.com.s3.amazonaws.com/results/2012/02/28/ekpnrjnc9h.jpg

C: Eddy Curry

http://cdn.cosbysweaters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/eddyhungry.jpg

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 06:32 PM
Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
Knicks worked hard to delay receipt of offer sheet Friday, Saturday, though the Rockets consider it in theird hands. NBA has not commented.

Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
Rockets operating on belief NY has until 11:59east Tue to match Lin sheet. NY "disputing" Rockets, Players Association position, per source.

Clipper Nation
07-15-2012, 06:43 PM
The Knicks: making the Elgin Baylor era in LA look sane for over a decade

Indazone
07-15-2012, 07:28 PM
Rockets need to sign Aaron Brooks for backcourt depth.

Kai
07-15-2012, 08:00 PM
Rockets need to sign Aaron Brooks for backcourt depth.

I don't think we want to make any moves until the Dwight situation gets resolved. It's pretty obvious that Lee is waiting as well.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 08:08 PM
Rockets need to sign Aaron Brooks for backcourt depth.
:lmao

Clipper Nation
07-15-2012, 08:09 PM
Rockets could really use Ryan Gomes' services, tbh... his inbounds passes are crisp and accurate....

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 08:21 PM
Jim ‏@NYGreenMachine
@TheRealJRSmith players on Knick roster R a joke, selfish, if u don't want Lin back then OBVIOUSLY u don't CARE abt WINNING @carmeloanthony
Retweeted by JR Smith

Jim ‏@NYGreenMachine
@TheRealJRSmith @carmeloanthony get off my ****en team; we want to build unselfish Ship teams with pass first PG's like Lin, JR&Melo must go
Retweeted by JR Smith


:lol knicks locker room

Kai
07-15-2012, 08:25 PM
Jim ‏@NYGreenMachine
@TheRealJRSmith players on Knick roster R a joke, selfish, if u don't want Lin back then OBVIOUSLY u don't CARE abt WINNING @carmeloanthony
Retweeted by JR Smith

Jim ‏@NYGreenMachine
@TheRealJRSmith @carmeloanthony get off my ****en team; we want to build unselfish Ship teams with pass first PG's like Lin, JR&Melo must go
Retweeted by JR Smith


:lol knicks locker room

Holy shit :lol

Clipper Nation
07-15-2012, 08:27 PM
JR Smith with the g:lol:lolds

Fabbs
07-15-2012, 08:39 PM
When asked on Sunday if he thought Lin would be back with the Knicks, Carmelo Anthony was unsure but took a swipe at the Rockets' contract offer to the point guard.

"It's not up to me. It's up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract," he told the paper.
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Yes Marshmellow, because your $20 million a year salary is so worth it.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 08:59 PM
That tweet came from a fan, but either way you slice it should be entertaining. Say Lin leaves, NY turns on Melo and JR. Lin stays, and that locker room is a mess, I'd wanna see that just for the lulz.

djohn2oo8
07-15-2012, 09:03 PM
But Felton also had a good run in New York, scoring 17.1 points per game in 54 games before the Knicks sent him to Denver in February 2011 as part of the package for Anthony. Felton and Amare Stoudemire had good chemistry running the pick-and-roll offense, and neither has played as well since they were split up.

"I never played with Felton so I really don't know what to expect from that situation. I can't wait if that's the case," Anthony said. "I know what he did with the New York Knicks before I even got there with Amare. I know Amare's excited about that, playing with him before I got there, so they can reunite and hopefully we make something happen."




:lol

Sportcamper
07-16-2012, 09:28 AM
LMAO@ Houston sticking it to the Knicks...:lmao

jag
07-16-2012, 10:46 AM
LMAO@ Houston sticking it to the Knicks...:lmao

LMAO @ Houston sticking it to themselves after sticking it to the Knicks. They're about to pay Jeremy Lin $25 million. I'm not sure why Rocketfan cares about Lin bringing in money from bandwagon Asian fans. For similar money, they could have just stayed with Dragic, a guy who isn't coming off knee surgery.

Bynum's grey hair
07-16-2012, 10:58 AM
LMAO @ Houston sticking it to themselves after sticking it to the Knicks. They're about to pay Jeremy Lin $25 million. I'm not sure why Rocketfan cares about Lin bringing in money from bandwagon Asian fans. For similar money, they could have just stayed with Dragic, a guy who isn't coming off knee surgery.

:lol at Knicks

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 10:59 AM
This is about bringing in Lin to sell to Dwight about marketability and his shoe deal etc. The other thing is you have to meet payroll and they're so far under right now.

jag
07-16-2012, 11:08 AM
This is about bringing in Lin to sell to Dwight about marketability and his shoe deal etc. The other thing is you have to meet payroll and they're so far under right now.

Yes, I'm sure every black athlete in the League is giddy about the chance to join Jeremy Lin's 30-city Asian fan tour.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 11:15 AM
Yes, I'm sure every black athlete in the League is giddy about the chance to join Jeremy Lin's 30-city Asian fan tour.
Find another superstar besides Dwight who's more interested in his brand than the team he plays for. I'll be waiting.

jag
07-16-2012, 11:24 AM
Find another superstar besides Dwight who's more interested in his brand than the team he plays for. I'll be waiting.

I don't disagree with you about Dwight's obsession with marketing. I disagree with your belief that Jeremy Lin's budding Asian fanbase is actually going to make a difference in Dwight deciding where he signs long-term.

A bunch of chinks chanting "Jeremy Rin" doesn't mean much when compared to the opportunity of being the face of a brand new Brooklyn franchise in the biggest city in the US.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 11:30 AM
I don't disagree with you about Dwight's obsession with marketing. I disagree with your belief that Jeremy Lin's budding Asian fanbase is actually going to make a difference in Dwight deciding where he signs long-term.

A bunch of chinks chanting "Jeremy Rin" doesn't mean much when compared to the chance of being the face of a brand new Brooklyn franchise in the biggest city in the US.
That's what I'm saying. Brooklyn won't have the cap for him. Next best option would be L.A. But he'd likely have to walk after the season to L.A AND Lakers getting rid of Bynum. I'm not saying Lin could open up all the endorsements by himself, I'm saying the ones Yao opened would come rushing back if Lin does come to Houston. Then Dwight has his opportunity to go international. Tracy McGrady is STILL popular in China. I'm just saying.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 11:34 AM
Still gonna LOL when Knicks end up matching.

Sportcamper
07-16-2012, 12:01 PM
Yr-3 15 million really came out of nowhere...Knicks are hosed on this deal...:lmao

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 12:06 PM
Yr-3 15 million really came out of nowhere...Knicks are hosed on this deal...:lmao
Knicks shouldn't have gone around boasting "oh, we'll match any deal up to a billion dollars" and get butthurt when someone calls bluff.

DPG21920
07-16-2012, 12:10 PM
I wouldn't be lol'ing if I were HOU. Lin still has a big bust factor and while the contract for NY is structured strangely, either way they are paying him more than he will be worth - it's just to what degree (from a basketball perspective).

If he improves on his limited sample size consistently he will be in line with what he is worth. If he doesn't improve or it was a fluke, it will be laughably bad.

I think Felton will actually do fine in NY. He is more than capable and in that system he should do just fine. Felton for less years and money to me is the better play.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 12:14 PM
I wouldn't be lol'ing if I were HOU. Lin still has a big bust factor and while the contract for NY is structured strangely, either way they are paying him more than he will be worth - it's just to what degree (from a basketball perspective).

If he improves on his limited sample size consistently he will be in line with what he is worth. If he doesn't improve or it was a fluke, it will be laughably bad.

I think Felton will actually do fine in NY. He is more than capable and in that system he should do just fine. Felton for less years and money to me is the better play.

Depends on if he comes into camp in shape.

Edward
07-16-2012, 12:36 PM
Two years ago Felton played great in New York, granted this time around he's not gonna have the ball as much as he did two years ago.

I still think NY needs a shooting guard more reliable than JR Smith. After that they'd still need Amare and Melo to grow up and learn how to co-exist. Good luck with that :lol

djohn2oo8
07-16-2012, 12:38 PM
http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/raymond-felton-cupcake.jpg

Edward
07-16-2012, 12:46 PM
:lmao holy shit. He's gone from "thick build" or even "beefy" to FAT

hzqBj8rh03A

Nathan89
07-16-2012, 02:41 PM
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m>s
07-16-2012, 06:55 PM
signing lin would guarantee you an inflow of extra incomes from the far east at the very least, even if he turns out to be shit and overpaid, he'll still be a profit-making stock for you