View Full Version : Mavs to sign OJ Mayo
Mr.Bottomtooth
07-16-2012, 10:10 PM
OJ Mayo
@JuiceMayo32
I will be signing with dallas! #Mavsnation
Clipper Nation
07-16-2012, 10:16 PM
There goes Lakerfan's dreams of signing him with some quarters Kupchak found under his couch cushions... :lmao
benefactor
07-16-2012, 10:18 PM
The Mavs have recovered nicely all things considered.
Spurs9
07-16-2012, 10:18 PM
Good signing, mavs have a decent team now with all the additions tbh
timvp
07-16-2012, 10:19 PM
Decent signing. Mayo has a high ceiling for someone who has been around for a while. But he can also turn into a chucker pretty quickly, tbh.
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:20 PM
We staaaaaaaacked
pass1st
07-16-2012, 10:22 PM
There goes Lakerfan's dreams of signing him with some quarters Kupchak found under his couch cushions... :lmao
Talks of OJ to Lakers are just by LG fans, tbh. No realistic person thought he would put on purple & gold.
Stop thinking like a monkeyballer :lol
Tbh we might've actually improved from last year IMO. Just need to get a cheap shooter or two
Clipper Nation
07-16-2012, 10:24 PM
:lol Grizzlies
:lol No OJ but still have the obscenely terrible Rudy Gay
:lol Rudy Gay iso-ing his way out of the playoffs
:lol Vinny Del Negro > Lionel Hollins
Venti Quattro
07-16-2012, 10:24 PM
Things might not be looking bad for Dallas after all.
:lol Grizzlies
:lol No OJ but still have the obscenely terrible Rudy Gay
:lol Rudy Gay iso-ing his way out of the playoffs
:lol Vinny Del Negro > Lionel Hollins
:lol grizzlies being a one-hit wonder after knocking off a "#1" seed
pass1st
07-16-2012, 10:26 PM
Wonder if Mayo is going to peak Dwight's interests in Mavs again
Clipper Nation
07-16-2012, 10:29 PM
:lol grizzlies being a one-hit wonder after knocking off a "#1" seed
:lol Redneck fans chanting "See You Sunday"
:lol Team losing to the Clippers' bench on Sunday
da_suns_fan
07-16-2012, 10:29 PM
Whats their lineup now?
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:32 PM
PG-Collison, West(potentially), Roddy
SG-Mayo, Carter, Dahntay Jones, Cunningham
SF-Marion, Carter, Crowder
PF- Nowitzki, Brand, Wright
C-Kaman, Brand, James
Still need a shooter but looks good from what it was 2 weeks ago
Venti Quattro
07-16-2012, 10:34 PM
MD, who is the James? Jerome James?
DubMcDub
07-16-2012, 10:36 PM
Decent signing. Mayo has a high ceiling for someone who has been around for a while. But he can also turn into a chucker pretty quickly, tbh.
Agree on your assessment of his abilities, but it's a great--not decent--signing for $4M or less and given the available FAs remaining.
All things in context.
ElNono
07-16-2012, 10:36 PM
OJ Mayo is streaky... dangerous guy, tbh...Mavs looking swell...
:lol Redneck fans chanting "See You Sunday"
:lol Team losing to the Clippers' bench on Sunday
:lol losing a 27 point lead in the playoffs
:lol hick country rednecks
:lol fat zandolph
da_suns_fan
07-16-2012, 10:37 PM
PG-Collison, West
SG-Mayo, Carter, Dahntay Jones, Cunningham
SF-Marion, Carter, Crowder
PF- Nowitzki, Brand, Wright
C-Kaman, Brand, James
Still need a shooter but looks good from what it was 2 weeks ago
I'd rather play four on five than have Vince Carter on the Suns again.
Mayo should fit in nicely in the Jason Terry role. A nice upgrade for probably less money. He should get plenty of shots attempts considering Kaman and Marion arent volume shooters.
baseline bum
07-16-2012, 10:37 PM
I know the guy was considered a can't-miss prospect in high school, but he has regressed every year and just had a playoffs that make Bonner look like Reggie Miller. I don't know why everyone likes this deal unless it's only for one year or something.
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:38 PM
MD, who is the James? Jerome James?
Bernard James, our 27 year old rookie :lol, just came out of college after serving in the military for a few years
JMarkJohns
07-16-2012, 10:38 PM
All depends on the contract. Suns were offering 6+ per, but Mayo want closer to 8+.
Cuban making lemonade, tbh
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:40 PM
I'd rather play four on five than have Vince Carter on the Suns again.
Mayo should fit in nicely in the Jason Terry role. A nice upgrade for probably less money. He should get plenty of shots attempts considering Kaman and Marion arent volume shooters.
Carter wasn't that bad last year for us, inconsistent towards the end of the season but he is an old guy and the lockout/west going down definitely didn't help. He hit some clutch shots and make 3s for us...as long as he is playing with energy and not chucking he will have a decent year imho
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:41 PM
Early reports is a multi year deal. The plus side is the mavs actually HAVE assets now that could be used at the trading deadline for someone like Dwight...
Budkin
07-16-2012, 10:42 PM
Good moves by the Mavs :tu
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 10:44 PM
I don't think you pick up young guys like collison, mayo, and wright just to use as trade chips for some overrated primadonna faggot. I'd much rather hold on to them and try to sign bynum in the offseason. will we still have enough money to do so after this? I really like the new Collison/Mayo backcourt.
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:47 PM
I really want Delonte back. Dude was great for Dallas last year and he has really matured off the court. If he re signs, there will be a lot of depth in the backcourt to match the Frontcourt..
pass1st
07-16-2012, 10:47 PM
I don't think you pick up young guys like collison, mayo, and wright just to use as trade chips for some overrated primadonna faggot. I'd much rather hold on to them and try to sign bynum in the offseason. will we still have enough money to do so after this? I really like the new Collison/Mayo backcourt.
Mavs probably could be the third team to facilitate the Dwight trade if they wanted Bynum, tbh
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 10:49 PM
I don't think you pick up young guys like collison, mayo, and wright just to use as trade chips for some overrated primadonna faggot. I'd much rather hold on to them and try to sign bynum in the offseason. will we still have enough money to do so after this? I really like the new Collison/Mayo backcourt.
Yea the backcourt is nice although a lil small... Collison is maybe 6'0 and Mayo is like 6'4. How are they as defenders? We dot exactly have the best shot blocking in the world and Marion isn't goin to be able to chase around PGs all season long like last year.
I guess they can't be worse than terry and JJB though...
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 10:49 PM
Mavs probably could be the third team to facilitate the Dwight trade if they wanted Bynum, tbh
i'd give up dirk in a heartbeat if we could get bynum. collison/mayo/wright/bynum that's a nice young core. too bad cuban would never do it though.
monosylab1k
07-16-2012, 10:58 PM
I think i'm also in the camp that i'd rather have Bynum. Even if he's a little bitch, he's a little bitch with actual big man skills, not just relying on n!ggerball like Dwight.
tomtom
07-16-2012, 11:01 PM
Mavs may actually be likable next year
thispego
07-16-2012, 11:10 PM
I know the guy was considered a can't-miss prospect in high school, but he has regressed every year and just had a playoffs that make Bonner look like Reggie Miller. I don't know why everyone likes this deal unless it's only for one year or something.
baseline bum, proving yet again he doesn't know shit :lol
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-16-2012, 11:12 PM
:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:13 PM
:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry
hahahaha!!! you'r n!ggerball plan just got foiled! O & forever!
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-16-2012, 11:15 PM
hahahaha!!! you'r n!ggerball plan just got foiled! O & forever!
Beasley alone will give plenty of n!ggerball to watch :lol
but I wanted the JUICE :cry
Sean Cagney
07-16-2012, 11:15 PM
We staaaaaaaacked
No they are not, they are not going anywhere next year. They are a good team yes, but this is not the staccckedddddddd title team you had in 011. They recovered well though from not getting Deron and Dwight, good looks to them for getting some pieces.
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:15 PM
I think i'm also in the camp that i'd rather have Bynum. Even if he's a little bitch, he's a little bitch with actual big man skills, not just relying on n!ggerball like Dwight.
Come on over to the dark side!
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:16 PM
Beasley alone will give plenty of n!ggerball to watch :lol
but I wanted the JUICE :cry
OJ da juiceman, N!GGA!
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-16-2012, 11:17 PM
OJ da juiceman, N!GGA!
Orange Juice Mayonnaise, NIGGA!
Findog
07-16-2012, 11:20 PM
MD, who is the James? Jerome James?
The 27 year old rookie
Findog
07-16-2012, 11:22 PM
I think i'm also in the camp that i'd rather have Bynum. Even if he's a little bitch, he's a little bitch with actual big man skills, not just relying on n!ggerball like Dwight.
He also hasn't held his current franchise hostage, and while he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, he isn't an idiot diva like Dwight.
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:24 PM
The 27 year old rookie
:lol why the fuck didn't they just keep zeller? he was a good pick.
baseline bum
07-16-2012, 11:28 PM
baseline bum, proving yet again he doesn't know shit :lol
You're right, that blazing 27% he shot in the playoffs should fit right into that hole created after Odom left.
lakerhaterade
07-16-2012, 11:30 PM
You're right, that blazing 27% he shot in the playoffs should fit right into that hole created after Odom left.
You can't ignore the upside though.
DubMcDub
07-16-2012, 11:32 PM
All depends on the contract. Suns were offering 6+ per, but Mayo want closer to 8+.
Mavs had only $4M in cap space, so it cannot be for more than that.
Fact: OJ Mayo took half as much money as he wanted from the Suns to play for the Mavs. :lol
Venti Quattro
07-16-2012, 11:34 PM
but I wanted the JUICE :cry
Nathan89
07-16-2012, 11:35 PM
Exciting off-season for Mavs fans. All these moves have me interested in the the MavSquad next year.
Findog
07-16-2012, 11:35 PM
He's regressed the last two years (shot 40% from the field) but I think he could be rejuvenated getting better looks playing alongside Dirk. He's taking over the JET role. JET was a low-volume chucker in Atlanta and his FG% improved dramatically his first few years in Dallas.
Low-risk/high-upside move. :tu
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:37 PM
so did we really get him for only 4 mil per? is that true?
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 11:38 PM
2 year deal with a player option as the second year
Lincoln
07-16-2012, 11:39 PM
so did we really get him for only 4 mil per? is that true?
4 max, we don't got his bird rights do we can't go over cap to sign him. So I'm guessing 2 years 8 mill
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:40 PM
that's a fuckin bargain deal. him and collison both. i'm really, really liking those moves as well as the wright signing. all value contracts and young too.
Nathan89
07-16-2012, 11:42 PM
Cuban looking like the smartest man in the room after all the dust settled.
baseline bum
07-16-2012, 11:43 PM
If they got him for $4 million then that's a great value signing. I was expecting something more along the lines of $8 million per in a sign and trade, based on the kind of contracts we have seen thrown out this summer. Looking at the Mavs roster and the salaries they would have left, it doesn't look like that's the case though.
mavs>spurs
07-16-2012, 11:45 PM
my only thinking is that his market value took a big hit after sort of regressing these last couple of years and something about dallas really appealed to him. he probably sees dallas as a place where he's guaranteed to start and will get a chance to revitalize his career. win-win for both parties tbh.
Venti Quattro
07-16-2012, 11:46 PM
The Juice is going to help Dirk's career if he plays like the guy Cubes is going to pay him to be -- make his shots, drive to the rack and help Dirk get easy points.
DubMcDub
07-16-2012, 11:52 PM
Several media outlets now confirming that it's not a sign-and-trade. First year will be $4.5M or less. Player option on second year.
baseline bum
07-16-2012, 11:54 PM
I take it back, doesn't Dallas have a big trade exception for sending Odom to the Clippers? If they used that to throw $8 million at Mayo in a sign and trade it would be hilarious.
baseline bum
07-16-2012, 11:55 PM
Several media outlets now confirming that it's not a sign-and-trade. First year will be $4.5M or less. Player option on second year.
That's a pretty good deal then. Out of curiosity, who is reporting it? ESPN only has it as a multiyear deal.
Samuel Eto'o
07-16-2012, 11:55 PM
I don't think you pick up young guys like collison, mayo, and wright just to use as trade chips for some overrated primadonna faggot. I'd much rather hold on to them and try to sign bynum in the offseason.
I think i'm also in the camp that i'd rather have Bynum. Even if he's a little bitch, he's a little bitch with actual big man skills, not just relying on n!ggerball like Dwight.
You are both fucking retarded.
M>S, are you saying that if given the chance to trade for Dwight you would pass in order to maybe lure Bynum in the offseason. Bc it sounds like thats what you're saying and its the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even if you think Bynum is the better player (hes not) you at least would do the trade considering its unlikely we could lure Bynum.
And even though Bynum does have more skill in the post, Dwight is still the better player by far.
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 12:00 AM
You are both fucking retarded.
M>S, are you saying that if given the chance to trade for Dwight you would pass in order to maybe lure Bynum in the offseason. Bc it sounds like thats what you're saying and its the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even if you think Bynum is the better player (hes not) you at least would do the trade considering its unlikely we could lure Bynum.
And even though Bynum does have more skill in the post, Dwight is still the better player by far.
now hold on a minute you little bitch ass african soccer niglet
where did i say i'd turn down a sure shot at dwight in order for a shot in the dark at bynum? if i were GM, I'd pull the trigger on dirk for bynum today. keep all our young players and rebuild since we all know we aren't winning a ship as constructed.
me and you both know that dwight for scraps isn't on the table. and as far as he goes, he's a cancerous, undersized, whiny little broken back bitch. i'd take bynum any day of the week over him. he's bigger, he's longer, he's more solid in the post and he isn't a whiner. dude would average 24-27ppg without chucker stealing the spotlight. he put up like 19 and 13 off 56% WITH chucker.
Venti Quattro
07-17-2012, 12:04 AM
I take it back, doesn't Dallas have a big trade exception for sending Odom to the Clippers? If they used that to throw $8 million at Mayo in a sign and trade it would be hilarious.
Lamar Odom is now the poster boy of trade exceptions.
Samuel Eto'o
07-17-2012, 12:06 AM
where did i say i'd turn down a sure shot at dwight in order for a shot in the dark at bynum? if i were GM, I'd pull the trigger on dirk for bynum today. keep all our young players and rebuild since we all know we aren't winning a ship as constructed.
Yes, and that's also a horrendous idea tbh
me and you both know that dwight for scraps isn't on the table. and as far as he goes, he's a cancerous, undersized, whiny little broken back bitch. i'd take bynum any day of the week over him. he's bigger, he's longer, he's more solid in the post and he isn't a whiner. dude would average 24-27ppg without chucker stealing the spotlight. he put up like 19 and 13 off 56% WITH chucker.
You said that you didn't want us to trade our young players for Dwight and would rather take the risk for a chance at both Bynum and these young players. Thats a fucking terrible idea imho.
And no Dwight is better than Bynum. Thats really not worth a debate.
DubMcDub
07-17-2012, 12:08 AM
That's a pretty good deal then. Out of curiosity, who is reporting it? ESPN only has it as a multiyear deal.
DB.com and (I believe) Marc Spears.
Stalin
07-17-2012, 12:09 AM
but I wanted the JUICE :cry
:lol
Cant_Be_Faded
07-17-2012, 12:11 AM
Damn, how the fuck was he available so cheap???
oj mayo only makes half a mill more than Danny green, wtmf?
Mayo looks like he's gonna be a good basketball fantasy player next season. He's one of 2 mavericks that can actually shoot.
What's the contract look like?
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 12:29 AM
Yes, and that's also a horrendous idea tbh
You said that you didn't want us to trade our young players for Dwight and would rather take the risk for a chance at both Bynum and these young players. Thats a fucking terrible idea imho.
And no Dwight is better than Bynum. Thats really not worth a debate.
i'd expect nothing less from a mav fan
HeatChamps
07-17-2012, 12:33 AM
lol No triple D. These other scrubs will just enough so you don't get a good draft pick.
Samuel Eto'o
07-17-2012, 12:36 AM
i'd expect nothing less from a mav fan
alright then.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 12:37 AM
Hi Samuel
Samuel Eto'o
07-17-2012, 12:41 AM
oh hey man whats up
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 12:41 AM
I hate to be "that" guy, but just to massively oversimplify things Andrew Bynum's PER was 23.00 last year compared to 24.29 for Howard so to scoff like they're just worlds apart is just dumb. Not to mention, Howard is peaked and Bynum has more upside. I imagine Bynum will look nasty not playing next to chucker.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 12:41 AM
oh hey man whats up
Good to hear from you man!
Samuel Eto'o
07-17-2012, 12:46 AM
I understand that Bynum is a good player, but Dwight is just a fucking freak. Hes defense is miles better. A Dirk/Dwight combo would be lethal, like a Dirk/Chandler one on steroids. Bynum is better at getting the ball and creating in the post, but Dwight is much better at finishing right off the pass. And with Dirk getting the attention he draws, Dwight would go nuts.
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 12:56 AM
I understand that Bynum is a good player, but Dwight is just a fucking freak. Hes defense is miles better. A Dirk/Dwight combo would be lethal, like a Dirk/Chandler one on steroids. Bynum is better at getting the ball and creating in the post, but Dwight is much better at finishing right off the pass. And with Dirk getting the attention he draws, Dwight would go nuts.
I agree that a Dirk/Dwight combo would be lethal, I'm not acting like I'd scoff at dwight howard being a maverick. It would be especially good because he's like Tyson Chandler on steroids. And like Chandler, he lacks the footwork and post moves of an Andrew Bynum.
I'd be thrilled to have either one, but if I'm a gm, barring injuries, I take Bynum. It is a bit of a risk though with the knees, sure.
I guess where we differ is I think Dirk is no longer able to carry a team on his back like he did in 11. You obviously think otherwise, and that's why you'd rather have the guy who probably slightly better compliments Dirk. But i'm taking the guy who will be the better cornerstone in 2 years whenever Dirk retires.
Mav-elous Man
07-17-2012, 12:58 AM
Lol!!! Cubes and Donnie building a playoff team in a week when other teams can't do it in a few years. Ha!!! :lol
Jacob1983
07-17-2012, 01:21 AM
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JMarkJohns
07-17-2012, 01:32 AM
Dallas has done well with iso-dribble scorers/shooters, so this makes a ton of sense, because I think Mayo can get his to improve his standing/worth while helping a team like Dallas within their individualized system.
I think Mayo on a effectively one-year deal scared the Suns as they thought he'd take over and undercut coaching/system to get his to get his the next offseason. Not sure how grounded that idea is, though OJ isn't known as being a team-first guy.
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 01:38 AM
When is the last time Dallas had this many playmakers? Gonna be a fun season for sure. Just hopin Kaman can stay healthy, the ceiling for this team is pretty high IMO
monosylab1k
07-17-2012, 01:45 AM
You are both fucking retarded.
M>S, are you saying that if given the chance to trade for Dwight you would pass in order to maybe lure Bynum in the offseason. Bc it sounds like thats what you're saying and its the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even if you think Bynum is the better player (hes not) you at least would do the trade considering its unlikely we could lure Bynum.
And even though Bynum does have more skill in the post, Dwight is still the better player by far.
When Dwight hits 30 he's going to fall off a cliff Tmac style since his game is entirely based off his athleticism.
Bynum, if he ever matures, is a guy who could have Duncanesque longevity, since he can score in the post without having to be the better athlete.
Short term Dwight may be better and safer, while long term Bynum is riskier but will be playing at a high level much longer than Dwight.
Jeremy
07-17-2012, 02:56 AM
I don't get this. The Suns wanted Mayo and were willing to pay him 5-6 million/year, but supposedly didn't offer him a contract because he wanted 8 million. And then he signs with Dallas for 4 million? Something doesn't add up here.
Mayo saw that Dallas had done more to make a competitive team. Dirk/Kaman/Collison > Scola/Gortat/Dragic.
and they managed to get their backcourt younger. Nice.
monosylab1k
07-17-2012, 07:49 AM
I don't get this. The Suns wanted Mayo and were willing to pay him 5-6 million/year, but supposedly didn't offer him a contract because he wanted 8 million. And then he signs with Dallas for 4 million? Something doesn't add up here.
Player option for next year. Mavs probably sold him on the "have a great year, then opt out and get a huge deal next year" angle.
K-State Spur
07-17-2012, 08:38 AM
When Dwight hits 30 he's going to fall off a cliff Tmac style since his game is entirely based off his athleticism.
Bynum, if he ever matures, is a guy who could have Duncanesque longevity, since he can score in the post without having to be the better athlete.
Short term Dwight may be better and safer, while long term Bynum is riskier but will be playing at a high level much longer than Dwight.
Bynum will be lucky to still be in the league at 30 after his knee issues. He just completed a full season which is encouraging, but the list of guys who have had his injury history at his age and proceeded to age well is very short...as in almost non-existent.
monosylab1k
07-17-2012, 09:39 AM
Bynum will be lucky to still be in the league at 30 after his knee issues. He just completed a full season which is encouraging, but the list of guys who have had his injury history at his age and proceeded to age well is very short...as in almost non-existent.
None of those players had his post game.
Clipper Nation
07-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Lol!!! Cubes and Donnie building a playoff team in a week when other teams can't do it in a few years. Ha!!! :lol
Well that's because most teams spend years trying to put together a team with higher aspirations than the 7th or 8th seed and losing in the first round tbh....
Jodelo
07-17-2012, 09:44 AM
Well that's because most teams spend years trying to put together a team with higher aspirations than the 7th or 8th seed and losing in the first round tbh....
Like 2011... :lobt2:
Clipper Nation
07-17-2012, 09:45 AM
Like 2011... :lobt2:
Your current roster ain't winning one of those... didn't even win one when they were the 2006 Clippers... :lol
Findog
07-17-2012, 10:10 AM
Your current roster ain't winning one of those...
Neither is yours. Difference of course is we have an owner that is committed to winning. The only thing your owner is committed to is not complying with the Fair Housing Act.
Clipper Nation
07-17-2012, 10:15 AM
Neither is yours.
We shall see, B.... :hat
K-State Spur
07-17-2012, 10:31 AM
None of those players had his post game.
Not about skills in the post - about ability to run up and down the court for 20-30 minutes without something falling off.
Venti Quattro
07-17-2012, 10:33 AM
Not about skills in the post - about ability to run up and down the court for 20-30 minutes without something falling off.
Most of Bynum's injuries were freak accidents in the playing court. So while he has a lot of injury history, the probability of him being able to run for 20-30 minutes on the court is very high.
Jodelo
07-17-2012, 10:47 AM
Your current roster ain't winning one of those... didn't even win one when they were the 2006 Clippers... :lol
When did the Clippers win their last?
Clipper Nation
07-17-2012, 10:51 AM
When did the Clippers win their last?
Brand and Kaman certainly didn't deliver ring #1.....
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 11:04 AM
Player option for next year. Mavs probably sold him on the "have a great year, then opt out and get a huge deal next year" angle.
If that's the case then it's even more dumb on the Suns' part. A 2 year, $10-12mil deal with the 2nd year being a player option is still a great pricetag for Mayo. 2 years, $8,000,000 is maybe the best bargain so far this off season.
I guess Mayo might have simply liked Dallas more than Phoenix so he was willing to sign with Dallas for less, but that doesn't align with how Phoenix has basically gotten every free agent they've gone after this off season prior to Mayo (Gordon being the exception who obviously woulda come here if he was unrestricted).
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 11:05 AM
Guess they shoulda made cornerstone posters for Mayo and made him feel important :cry
TheRealCB
07-17-2012, 11:18 AM
If that's the case then it's even more dumb on the Suns' part. A 2 year, $10-12mil deal with the 2nd year being a player option is still a great pricetag for Mayo. 2 years, $8,000,000 is maybe the best bargain so far this off season.
I guess Mayo might have simply liked Dallas more than Phoenix so he was willing to sign with Dallas for less, but that doesn't align with how Phoenix has basically gotten every free agent they've gone after this off season prior to Mayo (Gordon being the exception who obviously woulda come here if he was unrestricted).
He took less money to go to a contender..Just like a certain 38 year-old Canadian PG did a few days ago.Winning is just as important to some guys it seems.:toast
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 11:20 AM
:lol calling the Mavs a contender
:lol Nash resigning with the Suns because he wanted $9M a year
Jodelo
07-17-2012, 11:21 AM
Brand and Kaman certainly didn't deliver ring #1.....
So, when was it? I still can remember when the Mavs won their...
And, those Clippers ain't gonna win anything!
TheRealCB
07-17-2012, 11:31 AM
:lol calling the Mavs a contender
:lol Nash resigning with the Suns because he wanted $9M a year
Son do you honestly believe that Dallas can't compete with OKC?
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 11:39 AM
Son do you honestly believe that Dallas can't compete with OKC?
If everything goes right for them maybe, but I don't see it.
Honestly, I love their Collison and Mayo acquisitions especially at the price they got them at. Brand also was a solid pickup imo, but I've always hated Kaman and think their expectation of him playing an important role will backfire. Dirk will obviously play better than last year but the question is how much better, and also how much does Marion have left in the tank. It's a team with too many question marks and new pieces.
Dallas might be able to somewhat hang with Plc but they'll get torn a new one when they play LA
TheRealCB
07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
If everything goes right for them maybe, but I don't see it.
Honestly, I love their Collison and Mayo acquisitions especially at the price they got them at. Brand also was a solid pickup imo, but I've always hated Kaman and think their expectation of him playing an important role will backfire. Dirk will obviously play better than last year but the question is how much better, and also how much does Marion have left in the tank. It's a team with too many question marks and new pieces.
It's the first time since Nash left that we will get fast breaks.I think that alone means a lot.
2nd,Collison could go back to his rookie season when Chris Paul went down. If he can do it with David West then he can do it with Dirk.
Dahntay Jones will also be huge,it will allow Marion to take a breather and not have to guard PG's and SG's for 40 minutes.
Plus,I think our frontcourt shits on everyone in the league,so that's a plus. Now give me king Belli and it's :lobt2:
monosylab1k
07-17-2012, 12:15 PM
As they are right now, assuming they have a reasonable amount of health, I'd put the Mavs solidly as the 4th best team in the West. Clearly behind OKC, not quite that far behind SA or the Lakers. Definitely ahead of Denver or the Clippers.
Findog
07-17-2012, 12:21 PM
As they are right now, assuming they have a reasonable amount of health, I'd put the Mavs solidly as the 4th best team in the West. Clearly behind OKC, not quite that far behind SA or the Lakers. Definitely ahead of Denver or the Clippers.
I agree. This gets us at least even with Memphis, LAC and Denver, if not better.
Right now I see the West like this:
Favorite:
OKC
Contenders:
SA, LAL
Likely Playoff Teams:
DAL, LAC, DEN, MEM, UTA
Potential Dark Horse Playoff Team:
MINN, PHX, PORT
Crap:
HOU (subject to change if they get D12), GS, SAC, NOLA
tesseractive
07-17-2012, 12:54 PM
The Mavs have recovered nicely all things considered.
+1
Kaman and Brand are no substitute for Tyson Chandler, but considering what this team looked like a couple of weeks ago, I'm astonished at how well they've pulled things together.
I don't think they're a title contender, but they should win a lot of games.
dirk4mvp
07-17-2012, 12:57 PM
stack city, imo
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 12:57 PM
If that's the case then it's even more dumb on the Suns' part. A 2 year, $10-12mil deal with the 2nd year being a player option is still a great pricetag for Mayo. 2 years, $8,000,000 is maybe the best bargain so far this off season.
I guess Mayo might have simply liked Dallas more than Phoenix so he was willing to sign with Dallas for less, but that doesn't align with how Phoenix has basically gotten every free agent they've gone after this off season prior to Mayo (Gordon being the exception who obviously woulda come here if he was unrestricted).
It has a lot to do with Phoenix being O & forever and not being a desirable place to say, probably even below minny at this point as me and rogue said crofl crofl having no franchise player.
dirk4mvp
07-17-2012, 01:01 PM
It has a lot to do with Phoenix being O & forever and not being a desirable place to say, probably even below minny at this point as me and rogue said crofl crofl having no franchise player.
it's dry heat! :cry
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:05 PM
It has a lot to do with Phoenix being O & forever and not being a desirable place to say, probably even below minny at this point as me and rogue said crofl crofl having no franchise player.
:lol below Minny
:lol thinking Kevin Love is a franchise player
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:15 PM
:lol below Minny
:lol thinking Kevin Love is a franchise player
not even a day after i made that comment may:lol turned down 8 mil to come play in dallas for 4 crofl
it also doesn't hurt to have an owner committed to winning and not fun and gun mediocrity to sell tickets without ever having to go through a rebuilding phase. LMAO perennial 7-10 seed.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:17 PM
not even a day after i made that comment may:lol turned down 8 mil to come play in dallas for 4 crofl
The Suns offered 5-6mil without a player option and Mayo wanted 8mil. The Suns didn't offer it.
So Mayo chosing Dallas over Phoenix means Minny > Phoenix :lol
That's logical.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:18 PM
it also doesn't hurt to have an owner committed to winning and not fun and gun mediocrity to sell tickets without ever having to go through a rebuilding phase. LMAO perennial 7-10 seed.
Yeah you won't hear me try to argue Phoenix is better than Dallas. That wasn't ever in question. Cool strawman though.
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:18 PM
The Suns offered 5-6mil without a player option and Mayo wanted 8mil. The Suns didn't offer it.
So Mayo chosing Dallas over Phoenix means Minny > Phoenix :lol
That's logical.
It's dry heat! :cry
Spurs da champs
07-17-2012, 01:18 PM
How old is this guy?...always using that stupid little fucking smiley, smh.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:19 PM
It's dry heat! :cry
:lmao that's your comeback? Stealing dirk4mvp's line?
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:22 PM
I'm real sorry that Mayo didn't want to come to Phoenix, guy.
lmao no i'm not. OJ Mayo, N!gga!
Enjoy your desirable hotspot
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:23 PM
I'm real sorry that Mayo didn't want to come to Phoenix, guy.
lmao no i'm not. OJ Mayo, N!gga!
Enjoy your desirable hotspot
:lol losing the argument then ignoring it
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:24 PM
:lol self proclaimed internet victories.
the proof is in the pudding as far as the original argument goes. lump phoenix in with the likes of minny, sacramento, and golden state as far as a FA destination.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:26 PM
:lol self proclaimed internet victories.
the proof is in the pudding as far as the original argument goes. lump phoenix in with the likes of minny, sacramento, and golden state as far as a FA destination.
Mayo chosing Dallas over Phoenix is somehow the proof in the pudding that Minnesota is a better free agency destination than Phoenix?
Cool logic bro.
:lol strawman arguments
:lol moving the goalposts
:lol arguing against something I never said
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 01:28 PM
Collison, nigga!
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 01:30 PM
Just read that Dallas STILL has a 2.5 million dollar room exception so looks like we picking up Delonte to fix up the PG position. Roddy can't be trusted anymore
Venti Quattro
07-17-2012, 01:31 PM
Roddy can't be trusted anymore
What happened to French Allah?
Monostradamus
07-17-2012, 01:33 PM
I'd rather not sign Delonte tbh. This year needs to be Roddy's final chance. He gets one last shot to play to his potential, and we don't need Delonte around to give Carlisle another excuse to leave Roddy on the bench.
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 01:33 PM
Nigga went down with multiple foot injuries and just wasn't the same anymore tbh :cry
He will have flashes every 2 games but then suck it up for a few games. I blame a lot on RC not developing him and Dominique jones properly. They aren't point guards nor combo guards ad that is what Rick is trying to turn them into. They're naturally undersized shooting guards.
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:34 PM
Mayo chosing Dallas over Phoenix is somehow the proof in the pudding that Minnesota is a better free agency destination than Phoenix?
Cool logic bro.
:lol strawman arguments
:lol moving the goalposts
:lol arguing against something I never said
Well this all started when I lumped in phoenix with those teams, not necessarily below and it must have stung a bit.
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 01:35 PM
I'd rather not sign Delonte tbh. This year needs to be Roddy's final chance. He gets one last shot to play to his potential, and we don't need Delonte around to give Carlisle another excuse to leave Roddy on the bench.
If not West then maybe we could get a cheap big for that much(HIGHLY unlikely though). This front court is going to get eaten alive when they play the Lakers.
Monostradamus
07-17-2012, 01:35 PM
Not that I don't like Delonte, he was terrific last year in his role. I just really want to see Roddy get one last chance, and we all know Carlisle won't play him if he's got any other options.
Monostradamus
07-17-2012, 01:36 PM
Nigga went down with multiple foot injuries and just wasn't the same anymore tbh :cry
He will have flashes every 2 games but then suck it up for a few games. I blame a lot on RC not developing him and Dominique jones properly. They aren't point guards nor combo guards ad that is what Rick is trying to turn them into. They're naturally undersized shooting guards.
DoJo's problem is that most 10 year olds can shoot better than him.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-17-2012, 01:40 PM
Well this all started when I lumped in phoenix with those teams, not necessarily below and it must have stung a bit.
I'd lump Phoenix in with Golden State and maybe Sacramento, but Minnesota will always have problems with free agents because of how shitty the weather is there. I really doesn't sting to point out what's been obvious for years.
Even when the Suns were good, they were never a great free agency destination, but they're still much better than Minnesota.
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 01:42 PM
Is this the mavs first legit shooting guard since Finley left?
Just remembered Ant:loline Wright starting at the 2 a few years back
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:44 PM
Is this the mavs first legit shooting guard since Finley left?
Just remembered Ant:loline Wright starting at the 2 a few years back
Since Stackhouse.
Findog
07-17-2012, 01:44 PM
I'd rather not sign Delonte tbh. This year needs to be Roddy's final chance. He gets one last shot to play to his potential, and we don't need Delonte around to give Carlisle another excuse to leave Roddy on the bench.
It's always a good idea to have a veteran PG around. Give Roddy a chance to do his thing in the regular season, but if he falters, Delonte is a good guy to have on hand for the playoff run.
HeatChamps
07-17-2012, 01:50 PM
Since Stackhouse.
:lol Brickhouse
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 01:55 PM
Stackhouse was like 6th man of the year in 2006 bro.
HeatChamps
07-17-2012, 02:02 PM
He was definitely a 6th man for Miami in that years finals. lol
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 02:10 PM
I'll never understand why he tackled Shaq in game 4 that year when the Mavs were getting their shit pushed in.
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 02:13 PM
I'll never understand why he tackled Shaq in game 4 that year when the Mavs were getting their shit pushed in.
Because it was a blowout and they were trying to show off
hkaYmGQ3UtU
crofl
dirk4mvp
07-17-2012, 02:15 PM
wasn't even that hard of a blow. shaq just being a fat as fatass made it look a lot worse.
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 02:27 PM
Didn't they lose game 5 in OT by like 1 or 2 points off game winning free throws? Had stack played and dropped his usual 13-15 points maybe it's a different story.
RIP 2006 :cry
spursfan1000
07-17-2012, 02:27 PM
Solid signing, I've always been a fan of mayo, he should be enough to help Mavs get 8th seed
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 02:29 PM
wasn't even that hard of a blow. shaq just being a fat as fatass made it look a lot worse.
Didn't they lose game 5 in OT by like 1 or 2 points off game winning free throws? Had stack played and dropped his usual 13-15 points maybe it's a different story.
RIP 2006 :cry
crofl yeah the suspension was BS and unwarranted, more reason why the heat's 2006 championship is *
dirk4mvp
07-17-2012, 02:30 PM
Didn't they lose game 5 in OT by like 1 or 2 points off game winning free throws? Had stack played and dropped his usual 13-15 points maybe it's a different story.
RIP 2006 :cry
I bet losing the finals that year really ruined your 5th grade summer crofl
Lincoln
07-17-2012, 02:32 PM
I bet losing the finals that year really ruined your 5th grade summer crofl
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Monostradamus
07-17-2012, 02:32 PM
It's always a good idea to have a veteran PG around. Give Roddy a chance to do his thing in the regular season, but if he falters, Delonte is a good guy to have on hand for the playoff run.
Even then I'd rather have Roddy. The risk/reward is greater and I just want closure on the whole damn thing - can this guy play or not?
Jeremy
07-17-2012, 05:39 PM
Player option for next year. Mavs probably sold him on the "have a great year, then opt out and get a huge deal next year" angle.
Suns would have loved to give him a player option for next year, and keep their cap space for next summer. Plus he could score as much as he wants on the Suns and really up his value.
mavs>spurs
07-17-2012, 05:41 PM
he will get more exposure to up his value in dallas imho and just as much playing time
Latarian Milton
07-17-2012, 06:11 PM
mavs are actually better than last year tbh. OJ dude once averaged like 18pts earlier in his career, then dude got relegated to the bench and that was when his stats started to go on a slope. don't forget he was a top5 draft and the guy who the grizzlies traded kevin love for :lol
ZB 512
07-18-2012, 02:30 PM
he should be enough to help Mavs get 8th seed
lol they werent even 8th seed last season, with a worse roster and with a weird lock out schedule
Mavs look much better heading this next season than they were last season
Lincoln
07-18-2012, 02:33 PM
Calling 4th seed NIGGAS
1. LAL
2. OKC
3. SA
4. DAL
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