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Kai
07-17-2012, 03:10 PM
Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT

Posting momentarily to http://nytimes.com: Lin will be a Rocket. Knicks deliberations over.

Here's the story (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/sports/basketball/knicks-lin-rockets-offer-sheet.html?smid=tw-share)

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:13 PM
Jeremy "Artist formerly known as Linsanity" Lin - ESPN

Reck
07-17-2012, 03:14 PM
I think we all know who the real winner here is. lol

Kai
07-17-2012, 03:14 PM
Jeremy "Artist formerly known as Linsanity" Lin - ESPN

:lol Rinsanity

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:15 PM
:lol Rinsanity
:rollin

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:16 PM
Knicks probably trolling. They haven't announced it themselves yet.

ElNono
07-17-2012, 03:16 PM
:lol $25 million

Lincoln
07-17-2012, 03:16 PM
Chinksanity gonna go ham on Dallas 4 times a year tbh :(

Kai
07-17-2012, 03:19 PM
Knicks probably trolling. They haven't announced it themselves yet.

maybe, but unfortunately I think it's about time to load a bowl, microwave some eggrolls and try to get hyped over some Jeremy Lin youtube mixes :(

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:19 PM
:lol $25 million

Humphries 24 million
Asik 23 mil?
Lin 25

:lmao Owners

The Gemini Method
07-17-2012, 03:20 PM
:lol Rinsanity

Rinsanity to Crutch City

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:20 PM
The Knicksfans meltdown will be interesting if it's true.

ElNono
07-17-2012, 03:21 PM
:lol knee destroyed after only 23 games
:lol $25 million

Kai
07-17-2012, 03:23 PM
Well if we do get Lin and Howard, at least the Rockets will get a few national games for once :lol

Clipper Nation
07-17-2012, 03:24 PM
The Nets just got a shit ton of new fans tbh.... :lmao

Kai
07-17-2012, 03:25 PM
if it's true.

Beck is legit.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:27 PM
The Nets just got a shit ton of new fans tbh.... :lmao
http://www.obsessedwithsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mikhail-Prokhorov-60-minutes.jpg

Stalin
07-17-2012, 03:29 PM
http://www.obsessedwithsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mikhail-Prokhorov-60-minutes.jpg



:lol

cheguevara
07-17-2012, 03:34 PM
grabbing Lin is probably the best business move the Rockets have done in years. Of course, that's unless the chinaman's knees give out, of which there's a strong possibility

rayjayjohnson
07-17-2012, 03:37 PM
The chinaman is not the issue here, dude

Kai
07-17-2012, 03:38 PM
grabbing Lin is probably the best business move the Rockets have done in years. Of course, that's unless the chinaman's knees give out, of which there's a strong possibility

building a roster around broken chinamen is our specialty :toast

Kai
07-17-2012, 03:40 PM
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

League source confirms @HowardBeckNYT report that Knicks' current plan is not to match Houston offer sheet for Jeremy Lin.

weebo
07-17-2012, 03:43 PM
:lmao houston trying to hold on to the last of the remaining asian fan base after the fall of the yao ming dynasty

TimDunkem
07-17-2012, 03:43 PM
Rinsanity to Crutch Shity

Fixed.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:45 PM
http://english.cri.cn/mmsource/images/2011/01/24/0121Chinesebackstreet.jpg

:rollin:rollin:rollin

pass1st
07-17-2012, 03:52 PM
Rockets better pray Lin doesn't piss off the Chinese fans by driving a Chevy or something. He has to go ham on the Asian stereotype and get a shitty Mitsubishi lancer with 20ft spoilers and a Warcraft decal.

Clipper Nation
07-17-2012, 03:55 PM
I just realized that CP3 has probably had his last year as an All-Star starter because of this... :lol

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 03:57 PM
I just realized that CP3 has probably had his last year as an All-Star starter because of this... :lol
:lol

jeebus
07-17-2012, 03:58 PM
:lol the Philippines about to get a huge shipment of Knicks Lin merchandise

gambit1990
07-17-2012, 04:15 PM
Humphries 24 million
Asik 23 mil?
Lin 25

:lmao Owners

brook lopez, $60 mil.

Indazone
07-17-2012, 04:16 PM
maybe, but unfortunately I think it's about time to load a bowl, microwave some eggrolls and try to get hyped over some Jeremy Lin youtube mixes :(

America, eatin' my wontons from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my eggrolls down my throat.

rayjayjohnson
07-17-2012, 04:47 PM
Rockets better pray Lin doesn't piss off the Chinese fans by driving a Chevy or something. He has to go ham on the Asian stereotype and get a shitty Mitsubishi lancer with 20ft spoilers and a Warcraft decal.

pretty sure the chinese dont give a shit about a japanese car

pass1st
07-17-2012, 05:10 PM
pretty sure the chinese dont give a shit about a japanese car

Pretty sure asian americans do.

Jt.ONE
07-17-2012, 05:13 PM
http://english.cri.cn/mmsource/images/2011/01/24/0121Chinesebackstreet.jpg

:rollin:rollin:rollin




:lol:lol

Kai
07-17-2012, 05:43 PM
oYegztGsf38

Bill_Brasky
07-17-2012, 05:44 PM
Chinese Savior 2.0

ChrisRichards
07-17-2012, 05:53 PM
After all the years of grossly overpaying for stars

Marbury
Allan Houston
Zach Randolph
Amare
Melo
Jerome James
Eddy Curry
Jamal Crawford

....they are going to pass on the one player actually worth overpaying for (in terms of merchandise/marketing).


Knicks :rolleyes

tesseractive
07-17-2012, 06:01 PM
After all the years of grossly overpaying for stars

Marbury
Allan Houston
Zach Randolph
Amare
Melo
Jerome James
Eddy Curry
Jamal Crawford

....they are going to pass on the one player actually worth overpaying for (in terms of merchandise/marketing).


Knicks :rolleyes
Funniest thing since Mark Cuban decided not to pay Nash, then blew his wad on Dampier. :lol

Kidd K
07-17-2012, 06:31 PM
The real question is, are any Rockets fans actually happy over this deal?

They just had Lowry and Dragic. Lin's not an upgrade over either. :rollin

Indazone
07-17-2012, 06:44 PM
For once I hope Daryl Morey Metrics is dead on from the small Jeremy Lin sample size from last year.

Latarian Milton
07-17-2012, 06:56 PM
NY are gonna match their offer based on latest sources tbh

:lol no PG

:lol all-PF lineups

on the other hand, however, it revives their possibility of landing DH. not bad news at all imho

Kai
07-17-2012, 07:39 PM
For once I hope Daryl Morey Metrics is dead on from the small Jeremy Lin sample size from last year.

As opposed to usually hoping his metrics are wrong?

Anyways

http://i.imgur.com/cOfsU.png

TDMVPDPOY
07-17-2012, 07:40 PM
lol dh playin with lin...lol watta fkn joke ass team

racm
07-17-2012, 08:09 PM
This means Parker will style on him 4 times a year nstead of twice. :lmao

Pelicans78
07-17-2012, 08:38 PM
Rockets summer league team is going off.

Don't care for the Lin signing, but shouldn't hurt them too much.

Still Royce White could run the team better as a point forward.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 08:41 PM
Rockets summer league team is going off.

Don't care for the Lin signing, but shouldn't hurt them too much.

Still Royce White could run the team better as a point forward.

Didn't know White was that good of a passer.

Ace
07-17-2012, 08:51 PM
Guy had played 20 something games and gets 25 million? :lol Houston

Pelicans78
07-17-2012, 08:55 PM
Didn't know White was that good of a passer.

He's a good passer and rebounder and has a decent post game where he passes out of pretty well. He's not a good shooter. He reminds me of Anthony Mason.

Pelicans78
07-17-2012, 08:57 PM
Can't believe the Hornets passed up Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Jones, Royce White, John Henson, etc. for fucking Austin Rivers.

BUMP
07-17-2012, 09:00 PM
Sometimes you're delayed today, because God knows of a storm where you are headed

Be Grateful!

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 09:10 PM
Betting they match Lin.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 09:11 PM
Can't believe the Hornets passed up Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Jones, Royce White, John Henson, etc. for fucking Austin Rivers.
:lol

Kai
07-17-2012, 09:14 PM
Rockets summer league team is going off.

Don't care for the Lin signing, but shouldn't hurt them too much.

Still Royce White could run the team better as a point forward.

Great audition for the Magic tonight.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 09:18 PM
Great audition for the Magic tonight.
They get ONE rookie in any deal.

Pelicans78
07-17-2012, 09:19 PM
They get ONE rookie in any deal.

Keep the rookies and trade Lin!

Kai
07-17-2012, 09:21 PM
They get ONE rookie in any deal.

Unfortunately, I doubt it.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 09:22 PM
Keep the rookies and trade Lin!
lol can't trade him til like Jan 15th I think.

Pelicans78
07-17-2012, 09:23 PM
lol can't trade him til like Jan 15th I think.

Those rookies and Montiejunas have more talent than Lin.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 09:26 PM
Those rookies and Montiejunas have more talent than Lin.
I agree, which is why I won't be mad if we don't get Dwight.

djohn2oo8
07-17-2012, 09:32 PM
Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
The Knicks just confirmed they are not matching Houston's offer sheet to Jeremy Lin.

whitemamba
07-17-2012, 09:33 PM
Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
The Knicks just confirmed they are not matching Houston's offer sheet to Jeremy Lin.

25 mil, i still cant believe that shit.

Pelicans78
07-17-2012, 09:35 PM
Why Houston why?

Still, they don't have a PG and Lin will sell tickets, etc and make plays. He doesn't seem to be good fits with Martin or Lamb who rely on screens and ball movement.

Kai
07-17-2012, 09:47 PM
Why Houston why?

Still, they don't have a PG and Lin will sell tickets, etc and make plays. He doesn't seem to be good fits with Martin or Lamb who rely on screens and ball movement.

Martin will not be on the team, and Lamb might not be either.

BRHornet45
07-17-2012, 09:48 PM
damn good business decision for Houston .... Goddamn good business.

Kai
07-17-2012, 09:54 PM
Les knows a cash cow when he sees one.

Kidd K
07-18-2012, 12:31 AM
Are any Rockets fans actually excited about getting Lin at that bloated salary? Seriously.

I would be very upset if the Spurs or Bulls signed him for that much.

Venti Quattro
07-18-2012, 12:34 AM
:lol the Philippines about to get a huge shipment of Knicks Lin merchandise

:lol Erik Spoelstra will be bringing it to the Philippines

Kai
07-18-2012, 12:55 AM
Are any Rockets fans actually excited about getting Lin at that bloated salary? Seriously.

I would be very upset if the Spurs or Bulls signed him for that much.

I would have preferred we not do this deal and think he's overpaid, but part of me can't help but feel a little excited to see what he can do. It's not like just anybody could have put together that stretch that he did, he's not worthless. Then again, I might just still be in shock that Lowry and Dragic, our 2 best players are gone.

Kidd K
07-18-2012, 01:31 AM
I would have preferred we not do this deal and think he's overpaid, but part of me can't help but feel a little excited to see what he can do. It's not like just anybody could have put together that stretch that he did, he's not worthless. Then again, I might just still be in shock that Lowry and Dragic, our 2 best players are gone.

Thanks for replying.

Personally I feel he's almost doublely overpaid, and is only getting so much because of the hype he got last year.

And yeah. . .the main reason I wondered what Rockets fans felt was because imo, bother PGs the Rockets JUST had were better. . .and I think they could've gotten either for the same price. Maybe slightly more for Lowry, but imo he would be worth it. He was underrated imo. I've seen him kill multiple teams late in games last year with clutch playmaking and scoring.

As for Lin, I don't think he's worthless, but if you statistically break down his good stretch run, he was playing almost solely against lottery teams. I don't have the Lin breakdown on hand (posted it on another site last year), but I remember most of it since I talked about it a lot last year. Roughly it broke down to this:

Linsanity was about 11 games long. All but like three or four of the teams the Knicks played were not only sub .500, but all but one (besides the 3-4) was sub .400 (which imo is the definition of a garbage lottery team). Of the three teams they played they were actually over .500, one was the Mavs, which was an impressive showing by Lin and an impressive one, one was againsta struggling Lakers who weren't clicking yet and were only 3 games over .500 at the time, and one was against a massively injured Hawks team, who did not play either Johnson or Horford in the game.

So technically, during "Linsanity", they played one good team (Mavs), a struggling Lakers (3 games over .500 at the time), a severely injured Hawks teams, the Wolves once (.464), and just about everyone else was under or well under .400. For completion's sake, and I just looked this up to make sure I didn't post incorrect stats, he other teams they played were: Nets (8-17, .320%), Raptors (9-21, .300%), Jazz (13-10, .565%), Wizards (5-21, .192%), lakers (15-12, .555%), Kings (10-19, .335%), Hornets (7-23, .233%), Mavs (20-12 .625%), Nets again (10-24, .294%), and the recently injured Hawks team that was missing Johnson and Horford (19-14, .575%).

So, excluding the Lakers who were struggling, the crippled Hawks, and their one good win against the Mavs, and we'll call their Jazz win a "decent win against an on par team", their opponents' combined record and win% during "Linsanity" was: 49-125, or a craptastic .281%. Include the Jazz's record to inflate it some, and it's 62-135. A still craptastic .314%. Include the Lakers to inflate it, it's a still craptastic .343%. I'm giving them the Mavs win and calling it legit, I don't think beating a severely shorthanded Hawks team should reward them with praise by including the Hawks' win% (my opinion).

But long story short, they played terrible opposition during Linsanity. Mostly lottery teams, injured teams, a couple struggling teams around .500, and one good team (Mavs)

While everyone was verbally blowing Lin, I said let's not crown him as the prince of basketball just yet. . .wait 'til they play the Heat and all those teams after, because they have tough opponents coming up.

Against the Heat, Lin broke a record for garbage play, with imo one of the worst statistical games in NBA history, being the only player every to shoot under 10% while taking more than 10 shots, and turn the ball over 8 times while getting less than half as many assists.

Literally no other player in the history of the NBA has done that. You can look it up on basketball reference. For as far back as that dates game tracker, it hasn't happened.

He then proceeds to play terrible games against every team the Knicks faced. . .except the lottery teams like the Cavs.


So I do think his stretch was actually a fluke, if you break down the stats and opposition. You could go further and break down the team defense, and perimeter defense of said teams (for example, he was defended by the old, broken down Jason Kidd against the Mavs, or the Lakers with the old, slow Fisher). He almost never played well against good teams. Especially after Linsanity. He had the one impressive game against the Mavs, and otherwise either lost or stunk against good teams. Yet shined against lottery squads who we all know will throw games to get better draft position.


Anyway, sorry for the long post, but yeah. If I was a Rockets fan, I would be personally angry with the boatload of money they've giving him. Getting Lin. . .sure okay. . .but for that much? And at the cost of Dragic and Lowry? Wtf? Dragic and Lowry were dope. I don't get it. They amnestied Luis Scola too to open up a chance to rent Dwight? Somebody explain to me how these moves make sense please.

Indazone
07-18-2012, 01:37 AM
Thanks for replying.

Personally I feel he's almost doublely overpaid, and is only getting so much because of the hype he got last year.

And yeah. . .the main reason I wondered what Rockets fans felt was because imo, bother PGs the Rockets JUST had were better. . .and I think they could've gotten either for the same price. Maybe slightly more for Lowry, but imo he would be worth it. He was underrated imo. I've seen him kill multiple teams late in games last year with clutch playmaking and scoring.

As for Lin, I don't think he's worthless, but if you statistically break down his good stretch run, he was playing almost solely against lottery teams. I don't have the Lin breakdown on hand (posted it on another site last year), but I remember most of it since I talked about it a lot last year. Roughly it broke down to this:

Linsanity was about 11 games long. All but like three or four of the teams the Knicks played were not only sub .500, but all but one (besides the 3-4) was sub .400 (which imo is the definition of a garbage lottery team). Of the three teams they played they were actually over .500, one was the Mavs, which was an impressive showing by Lin and an impressive one, one was againsta struggling Lakers who weren't clicking yet and were only 3 games over .500 at the time, and one was against a massively injured Hawks team, who did not play either Johnson or Horford in the game.

So technically, during "Linsanity", they played one good team (Mavs), a struggling Lakers (3 games over .500 at the time), a severely injured Hawks teams, the Wolves once (.464), and just about everyone else was under or well under .400. For completion's sake, and I just looked this up to make sure I didn't post incorrect stats, he other teams they played were: Nets (8-17, .320%), Raptors (9-21, .300%), Jazz (13-10, .565%), Wizards (5-21, .192%), lakers (15-12, .555%), Kings (10-19, .335%), Hornets (7-23, .233%), Mavs (20-12 .625%), Nets again (10-24, .294%), and the recently injured Hawks team that was missing Johnson and Horford (19-14, .575%).

So, excluding the Lakers who were struggling, the crippled Hawks, and their one good win against the Mavs, and we'll call their Jazz win a "decent win against an on par team", their opponents' combined record and win% during "Linsanity" was: 49-125, or a craptastic .281%. Include the Jazz's record to inflate it some, and it's 62-135. A still craptastic .314%. Include the Lakers to inflate it, it's a still craptastic .343%. I'm giving them the Mavs win and calling it legit, I don't think beating a severely shorthanded Hawks team should reward them with praise by including the Hawks' win% (my opinion).

But long story short, they played terrible opposition during Linsanity. Mostly lottery teams, injured teams, a couple struggling teams around .500, and one good team (Mavs)

While everyone was verbally blowing Lin, I said let's not crown him as the prince of basketball just yet. . .wait 'til they play the Heat and all those teams after, because they have tough opponents coming up.

Against the Heat, Lin broke a record for garbage play, with imo one of the worst statistical games in NBA history, being the only player every to shoot under 10% while taking more than 10 shots, and turn the ball over 8 times while getting less than half as many assists.

Literally no other player in the history of the NBA has done that. You can look it up on basketball reference. For as far back as that dates game tracker, it hasn't happened.

He then proceeds to play terrible games against every team the Knicks faced. . .except the lottery teams like the Cavs.


So I do think his stretch was actually a fluke, if you break down the stats and opposition. You could go further and break down the team defense, and perimeter defense of said teams (for example, he was defended by the old, broken down Jason Kidd against the Mavs, or the Lakers with the old, slow Fisher). He almost never played well against good teams. Especially after Linsanity. He had the one impressive game against the Mavs, and otherwise either lost or stunk against good teams. Yet shined against lottery squads who we all know will throw games to get better draft position.


Anyway, sorry for the long post, but yeah. If I was a Rockets fan, I would be personally angry with the boatload of money they've giving him. Getting Lin. . .sure okay. . .but for that much? And at the cost of Dragic and Lowry? Wtf? Dragic and Lowry were dope. I don't get it. They amnestied Luis Scola too to open up a chance to rent Dwight? Somebody explain to me how these moves make sense please.

Keep your eye on the ball. At least we don't have a backcourt of Fat Felton and Overthehill Kidd.

Kai
07-18-2012, 02:05 AM
If I was a Rockets fan, I would be personally angry with the boatload of money they've giving him. Getting Lin. . .sure okay. . .but for that much? And at the cost of Dragic and Lowry? Wtf? Dragic and Lowry were dope. I don't get it. They amnestied Luis Scola too to open up a chance to rent Dwight? Somebody explain to me how these moves make sense please.

This is more or less how I feel, but I'm not looking at the uncertainty with pessimism. In my mind, just as much as he hasn't proven he's worth the contract, Lin hasn't proven he isn't worth the contract, and it's only a 3 year deal so if he busts, there's only a couple more years left with the last one being a valuable expiring. Renting Dwight is a calculated risk worth taking when your team really isn't that good, especially when it looks like his options will be limited next year.

racm
07-18-2012, 02:15 AM
FWIW McHale is a PG loving coach. Lowry and Dragic flourished under him tbh.

Kai
07-18-2012, 02:19 AM
btw Knickfan is mad as hell :lol

http://i.imgur.com/OBSyL.jpg

racm
07-18-2012, 02:27 AM
:lmao Knicksfan
:lmao bandwagon
:lmao Heatfan being far more loyal
:lmao Linsanity

ChrisRichards
07-18-2012, 02:30 AM
horrible NYK fanbase:lol i dont blame them, it has been a disappointing decade for them crofl and there is some truth with those posts. but i dont blame lin going for the dollar. he may never see that kind of contract again.

Kai
07-18-2012, 02:38 AM
"We'll match up to a billion dollars"

"Okay, I'll just settle for 25 mil"

Lin had every indication that whatever deal he signed would result in NY. I don't see why NY fans are acting like he LeBron'd them.

Stalin
07-18-2012, 03:17 AM
wow knickfan showing some serious butthurt there