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Galileo
07-21-2012, 09:52 AM
Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research and ended up becoming involved at a depth he never anticipated. His actions clearly show a strange detachment from reality, indicating he was not in his right mind. That can only typically be accomplished through drugs, hypnosis or trauma (and sometimes all three).

His behavior doesn't add up

His behavior already reveals stark inconsistencies that question the mainstream explanation of events. For example, he opened fire on innocent people but then calmly surrendered to police without resistance. This is not consistent with the idea of "killing everyone."

Furthermore, he then admitted to police that his apartment was booby-trapped with explosives. If you were really an evil-minded Joker trying to kill people (including cops), why would you warn them about the booby trap in advance? It doesn't add up.

MORE:

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz2 1GijKkpZ

:(

Blake
07-21-2012, 10:05 AM
Do you and the author not know the meaning of the word ” staged”?

title sucks.

Edward
07-21-2012, 10:05 AM
It's a conspiracy!

Galileo
07-21-2012, 10:20 AM
Theater Shooting in Aurora Colorado Screams ‘False Flag’

There is every indication that Holmes is a CIA mind control subject that was simply carrying out his programming. MK-Ultra is not a theory, it is a fact and the mind altering drugs used to assist in the effect are now being handed out for every ailment by doctors across our country like candy at a parade. Of course the school shooting in Columbine and the American flag were brought up front and center as a part of the propaganda blitz following the shooting.

For we in the know, this operation and its purpose is blatant as Obama stands poised to sign the UN Small Arms Treaty on the 27th of this month. The international soviet socialists who want the American people disarmed jumped on the scene to begin their attack on our 2nd Amendment immediately following the shooting. But you know what? This is not going to work.

MORE:

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/theater-shooting-in-aurora-colorado-screams-false-flag/18061/

~X( at wits' end

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 10:34 AM
well yeah the thing that is most incriminating is that this happens on the eve of that UN gun treaty going to the senate

boutons_deux
07-21-2012, 10:35 AM
"mind altering drugs used"

unamed?

"CIA mind control subject that was simply carrying out his programming"

:lol

"international soviet socialists who want the American people disarmed"

:lol

"attack on our 2nd Amendment"

:lol

"This is not going to work."

"this" DOES work as gun-fetishist theatrical paranoia.

What's more believable is that this asshole has been popping NRA pills.

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 10:37 AM
"mind altering drugs used"

unamed?

"CIA mind control subject that was simply carrying out his programming"

:lol

"international soviet socialists who want the American people disarmed"

:lol

"attack on our 2nd Amendment"

:lol

"This is not going to work."

"this" DOS work as gun-fetishist theatrical paranoia.

What's more believable is that this asshole has been popping NRA pills.

what's the matter scrah, somebody stick their barrel in your wife's holster if u kno whottt i mean

johnsmith
07-21-2012, 10:57 AM
Has anything ever happened that you guys didn't turn into a conspiracy theory?


Also, if you had the parents of one of the victims standing in front of you right now, would you tell them their child's death was a result of a gov't coverup/plan?

My guess is no....but mostly because you're cowards.....and idiots.

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 11:03 AM
my stance wouldn't change no matter what, it's really really strange timing.

hypothetical "wouldn't" smack is telling me

johnsmith
07-21-2012, 11:08 AM
my stance wouldn't change no matter what, it's really really strange timing.

hypothetical "wouldn't" smack is telling me

The thing is, I actually agree with you politically on most subjects.....I just don't seethe need to constantly assume everything is a conspiracy.....especially one day after the event.

ElNono
07-21-2012, 11:18 AM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg

Galileo
07-21-2012, 11:21 AM
Has anything ever happened that you guys didn't turn into a conspiracy theory?


Also, if you had the parents of one of the victims standing in front of you right now, would you tell them their child's death was a result of a gov't coverup/plan?

My guess is no....but mostly because you're cowards.....and idiots.

Julius Caesar was killed in a conspiracy.

:lmao

boutons_deux
07-21-2012, 11:26 AM
self-frightened "patriots", wannabe warriors "from the trenches", Going selflessly (forget about his website saturated with ads, selflessly) Paul Revere to warn us about the "one world order" :lol

About

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Thus this site is intent on uncovering more documented facts to bring to light that which the common man or woman is not meant to see. We are in a war for nothing less than our right to individual thought. We will be reporting on that war From the Trenches.

For those who have swallowed the red pill and are enlightened to the dire straits we find ourselves in these days, this site is meant to organize rallies and any other events designed to reclaim the Republic and our rights.

If it is your desire to use this site to organize an event please send an email and we will put up a page in order that you might come together with the people in your state and county who will stand with you and perpetuate your event to its logical conclusion.

We here at From the Trenches World Report are not terrorists. We seek peaceful resolution in every instance. To say that the possibility of violence does not exist in the reinstitution of the Republic and the Constitution would be naive. To protect this site we must request that all commenters refrain from openly calling for violence. We all know what is going on and we can progress without cutting off our nose to spite our face. Any comments coming in to this site advocating shooting people or terrorist acts will be edited or removed.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/about-2/

:lol :lol :lol Wouldn't get above a D in sophomore composition.

johnsmith
07-21-2012, 11:35 AM
Julius Caesar was killed in a conspiracy.

:lmao

Ha?

PublicOption
07-21-2012, 11:42 AM
stupid gun guys.

we need more guns, less regulation.

but idiots that keep using guns to kill force more and more regulation.

PublicOption
07-21-2012, 12:01 PM
Holmes is a online roile playing dumbass just like those D&D guys. This was just part of the game.

What a dipshit.

If this guy gets life. I hope they don't give him access to a computer. Then he can do some real role playing with Jerome and Bubba.

Galileo
07-21-2012, 12:05 PM
Hah, hah, there are three kinds of conspiracies; 1) ones everyone is supposed to believe like Watergate or the assassination of Julius Caesar, 2) partisan conspiracies that only one party is supposed to believe in (but not both), like Fast N Furious, global warming, rigged 2000 election, or 3) conspiracies no one is supposed to believe in like 9/11, JFK, or the Aurora Colorado shootings.

johnsmith
07-21-2012, 12:22 PM
Hah, hah, there are three kinds of conspiracies; 1) ones everyone is supposed to believe like Watergate or the assassination of Julius Caesar, 2) partisan conspiracies that only one party is supposed to believe in (but not both), like Fast N Furious, global warming, rigged 2000 election, or 3) conspiracies no one is supposed to believe in like 9/11, JFK, or the Aurora Colorado shootings.

And since you're a fucking idiot, you believe every event in human history falls into one of these categories.


IMO, proposing the idea that yesterday's killings were planned is a spit in the face of every victim and makes you an awful person.

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 12:29 PM
and what if it really was planned? would we still be "awful people?" if so, you're basically saying we must blindly trust the state on every issue. they ALWAYS do everything under the premise of doing something "good."

congrats you've just given a free pass.

DarrinS
07-21-2012, 12:33 PM
Smh

johnsmith
07-21-2012, 12:43 PM
and what if it really was planned? would we still be "awful people?" if so, you're basically saying we must blindly trust the state on every issue. they ALWAYS do everything under the premise of doing something "good."

congrats you've just given a free pass.

If it turned out it was planned, i'd be the first to admit I was wrong.....nut be honest here, what do you think is more likely?

ChumpDumper
07-21-2012, 02:14 PM
So the reason you think it's a conspiracy is that the actions of a man who killed 12 people weren't rational.

Bravo.

Glenn Holland
07-21-2012, 02:34 PM
NDRdD1yDiR0

ChumpDumper
07-21-2012, 02:36 PM
lol Alex Jones

Have you guys bought your non-hybrid seed banks from him yet?

Galileo
07-21-2012, 02:48 PM
NDRdD1yDiR0

good post.

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 04:23 PM
Sure guys, mind control doesn't exist!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html


wipe memory and even kill
Scopolamine often blown into faces of victims or added to drinks
Within minutes, victims are like 'zombies' - coherent, but with no free will
Some victims report emptying bank accounts to robbers or helping them pillage own house
Drug is made from borrachero tree, which is common in Colombia
By BETH STEBNER
PUBLISHED: 17:44 EST, 12 May 2012 | UPDATED: 08:43 EST, 13 May 2012
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A hazardous drug that eliminates free will and can wipe the memory of its victims is currently being dealt on the streets of Colombia.
The drug is called scopolamine, but is colloquially known as ‘The Devil’s Breath,' and is derived from a particular type of tree common to South America.
Stories surrounding the drug are the stuff of urban legends, with some telling horror stories of how people were raped, forced to empty their bank accounts, and even coerced into giving up an organ.
Scroll down for video

Danger: 'The Devil's Breath' is such a powerful drug that it can remove the capacity for free will

Deadly drug: Scopolamine is made from the Borrachero tree, which blooms with deceptively beautiful white and yellow flowers
VICE’s Ryan Duffy travelled to the country to find out more about the powerful drug. In two segments, he revealed the shocking culture of another Colombian drug world, interviewing those who deal the drug and those who have fallen victim to it.
Demencia Black, a drug dealer in the capital of Bogota, said the drug is frightening for the simplicity in which it can be administered.

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He told Vice that Scopolamine can be blown in the face of a passer-by on the street, and within minutes, that person is under the drug’s effect - scopolamine is odourless and tasteless.
‘You can guide them wherever you want,’ he explained. ‘It’s like they’re a child.’
Black said that one gram of Scopolamine is similar to a gram of cocaine, but later called it ‘worse than anthrax.’
In high doses, it is lethal.

It only takes a moment: One drug dealer in Bogota explained how victims are drugged within minutes of exposure

Victims: One Colombian woman said that under the influence of scopolamine, she led a man to her house and helped him ransack it
The drug, he said, turns people into complete zombies and blocks memories from forming. So even after the drug wears off, victims have no recollection as to what happened.
One victim told Vice that a man approached her on the street asking her for directions. Since it was close by, she helped take the man to his destination, and they drank juice together.

'You can guide them wherever you want. It’s like they’re a child.'
She took the man to her house and helped him gather all of her belongings, including her boyfriend’s cameras and savings.
‘It is painful to have lost money,’ the woman said,’ but I was actually quite lucky.’
According to the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, the drug - also known as hyoscine - causes the same level of memory loss as diazepam.
In ancient times, the drug was given to the mistresses of dead Colombian leaders – they were told to enter their master’s grave, where they were buried alive.

Devil's Breath: The drug is odourless and tasteless and can simply be blown in the face of someone on the street; their free will vanishes after being exposed to it

Dangerous: Vice's Ryan Duffy traveled to the capital of Bogota to find out more about the drug
In modern times, the CIA used the drug as part of Cold War interrogations, with the hope of using it like a truth serum.
However, because of the drug’s chemical makeup, it also induces powerful hallucinations.
The tree common around Colombia, and is called the ‘borrachero’ tree – loosely translated as the 'get-you-drunk' tree.
It is said that Colombian mothers warn their children not to fall asleep under the tree, though the leafy green canopies and large yellow and white flowers seem appealing.
Experts are baffled as to why Colombia is riddled with scopolamine-related crimes, but wager much of it has to do with the country’s torn drug-culture past, and on-going civil war.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html#ixzz21IKEuMfK

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 04:24 PM
the government would never do anything bad!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

symple19
07-21-2012, 04:45 PM
wow

Okay, some specific questions to the OP and the conspiracy people...

Do you realize that there are already 58 sens against the small arms treaty and that it will very likely fail to be ratified and thus never enforced?

why kill lots of civilians to obscure something that, at best, will be buried on page 3 of newspapers and websites?

Trainwreck2100
07-21-2012, 04:48 PM
NDRdD1yDiR0

who the fuck would play monopoly or risk with that guy?

ChumpDumper
07-21-2012, 04:51 PM
So m>s, do you believe that the Aurora gunman was being mind controlled by the government?

Yes or no.

mavs>spurs
07-21-2012, 04:53 PM
I think it's a possibility, one that we will never know for sure. How would one know? The only thing we can see is that it's suspicious, claiming to know anything definitive would be a reach for either side.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-21-2012, 07:19 PM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg

DMX7
07-21-2012, 07:23 PM
well yeah the thing that is most incriminating is that this happens on the eve of that UN gun treaty going to the senate

:lmao

What creeps me out is it happened on the premiere of the Batman movie! The timing is eerie.

mercos
07-21-2012, 07:46 PM
Treaties do not supersede the Constitution. This was established in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert. Furthermore, District of Columbia v. Heller established that even handguns could not be prohibited, let alone all firearms. The government still doesn't want your guns.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-21-2012, 08:01 PM
Is there ever a tragedy that doesn't have Galileo and Cosmored immediately claiming that its a conspiracy?

Agloco
07-21-2012, 09:15 PM
rofl at this thread. Really though.

Spurminator
07-21-2012, 11:40 PM
This settles it. You guys are actually minions working to delegitimize Ron Paul supporters.

Galileo
07-22-2012, 12:07 AM
Eyewitness Account: James Holmes Possible Second Shooter in tragic Batman Denver Shooting (VIDEO)

You Tube videos have surfaced revealing eye-witnesses commenting on seeing possibly a second person involved in the “Batman massacre.” Make copies of these. They will probably soon be removed as this does not support the official version of events.

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.infowars.com/james-holmes-possible-second-shooter-in-tragic-batman-denver-shooting-eyewitness-account/

ChumpDumper
07-22-2012, 02:02 AM
lol probably removed

Why would the NWO have needed more than one gunman?

boutons_deux
07-22-2012, 10:58 AM
Sen. Ron Johnson: 100-round rifle magazine is a ‘basic freedom’

Tea party-backed Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) says that the right to own high-capacity ammunitions magazines like the 100-round drum that was used to kill at least a dozen people in Colorado last week is a “basic freedom” that is protected by the U.S. Constitution.

Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday asked Johnson why people needed military-grade weapons like the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and large ammunition clips used by the shooter in Aurora, Colorado where at least 12 were killed and 58 were wounded.

“The left always uses the term ‘assault rifle,’ and they’re really talking about semi-automatic weapons that are used in hunting,” Johnson explained. “That’s what happens in Wisconsin. These are rifles that are used in hunting. Just the fact of the matter is this is really not an issue of guns. This is about sick people doing things you simply can’t prevent. It’s really an issue of freedom.”

“Does something that would limit magazines that can carry 100 rounds, would that infringe on the constitutional right?” Wallace wondered.

“I believe so,” Johnson insisted. “There are magazines — 30-round magazines — that are just common all over the place. You simply can’t keep these weapons out of the hands of sick, demented individuals that want to do harm.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/22/sen-ron-johnson-100-round-rifle-magazine-is-a-basic-freedom/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Is 100-round-magazine-a-basic-right the official tea bagger policy?

Galileo
07-22-2012, 11:31 AM
Sen. Ron Johnson: 100-round rifle magazine is a ‘basic freedom’

Tea party-backed Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) says that the right to own high-capacity ammunitions magazines like the 100-round drum that was used to kill at least a dozen people in Colorado last week is a “basic freedom” that is protected by the U.S. Constitution.

Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday asked Johnson why people needed military-grade weapons like the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and large ammunition clips used by the shooter in Aurora, Colorado where at least 12 were killed and 58 were wounded.

“The left always uses the term ‘assault rifle,’ and they’re really talking about semi-automatic weapons that are used in hunting,” Johnson explained. “That’s what happens in Wisconsin. These are rifles that are used in hunting. Just the fact of the matter is this is really not an issue of guns. This is about sick people doing things you simply can’t prevent. It’s really an issue of freedom.”

“Does something that would limit magazines that can carry 100 rounds, would that infringe on the constitutional right?” Wallace wondered.

“I believe so,” Johnson insisted. “There are magazines — 30-round magazines — that are just common all over the place. You simply can’t keep these weapons out of the hands of sick, demented individuals that want to do harm.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/22/sen-ron-johnson-100-round-rifle-magazine-is-a-basic-freedom/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Is 100-round-magazine-a-basic-right the official tea bagger policy?

There's no value in gun rights, unless the people can own weapons equal to what the state has. When states go on genocides, you need protection. It sounds like you favor genocide. Ron Johnson opposes genocide.

boutons_deux
07-22-2012, 11:48 AM
"When states go on genocides"

:lol

US citizens will NEVER overpower/outshoot the militarized police and military.

DMX7
07-22-2012, 12:33 PM
There's no value in gun rights, unless the people can own weapons equal to what the state has. When states go on genocides, you need protection. It sounds like you favor genocide. Ron Johnson opposes genocide.

The state has nuclear weapons. Should I be allowed to have one?

DMX7
07-22-2012, 12:34 PM
"When states go on genocides"

:lol

US citizens will NEVER overpower/outshoot the militarized police and military.

:lmao

SA210
07-22-2012, 01:29 PM
That he simply just gave himself up is funny. Reports kept saying "They found him by his car" lol so easily just "found" him? Anyway, I put nothing passed this corrupt lying murdering government, ever.

Spurs da champs
07-22-2012, 01:36 PM
That he simply just gave himself up is funny. Reports kept saying "They found him by his car" lol so easily just "found" him? Anyway, I put nothing passed this corrupt lying murdering government, ever.

Well he was out of ammunition & who's to say he didn't want to be caught?...with his appearance & all it's obvious he wanted recognition.

But I agree about the GOVT @ times being very corrupt especially around the time of the Vietnam war & the USS Liberty incident.

Yonivore
07-22-2012, 01:38 PM
That he simply just gave himself up is funny. Reports kept saying "They found him by his car" lol so easily just "found" him? Anyway, I put nothing passed this corrupt lying murdering government, ever.
That tells me that if Colorado had CHL, he may have "simply gave himself up" to someone in the theater long before there were 12 dead and 59 injured.

DMX7
07-22-2012, 01:41 PM
That he simply just gave himself up is funny. Reports kept saying "They found him by his car" lol so easily just "found" him? Anyway, I put nothing passed this corrupt lying murdering government, ever.

Well... his assault rifle jammed and the cops had bullet proof vests, tactical gear and shotguns whereas the audience members had none of those things, so perhaps he realized it was about time to give himself up.

SA210
07-22-2012, 01:46 PM
Not sure if I am going to believe those statements so easily. Statements by the Dallas PD against Oswald weren't so true either.

scott
07-22-2012, 01:47 PM
That tells me that if Colorado had CHL, he may have "simply gave himself up" to someone in the theater long before there were 12 dead and 59 injured.

Except Colorado does have CHL, and yet that didn't happen.

What else do things tell you?

DMX7
07-22-2012, 02:00 PM
That tells me that if Colorado had CHL, he may have "simply gave himself up" to someone in the theater long before there were 12 dead and 59 injured.

The gunman had a ballistic helmet, a vest, a throat protector, a gas mask and black tactical gloves. He also had an assault rifle - not just a handgun. Whoever decided to be the CHL hero probably would have been one of the first to die.

ChumpDumper
07-22-2012, 02:02 PM
That tells me that if Colorado had CHL, he may have "simply gave himself up" to someone in the theater long before there were 12 dead and 59 injured.Yay! Talking point!

Yonivore
07-22-2012, 02:03 PM
Except Colorado does have CHL, and yet that didn't happen.

What else do things tell you?
Tells me I read the story wrong. It's the City of Aurora, Colorado that has the ordinance against concealed weapons.

http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm

In 2003, the State said their laws trumped city ordinance. Boulder has sued. I'm not sure where the ordinance stands.

Yonivore
07-22-2012, 02:04 PM
The gunman had a ballistic helmet, a vest, a throat protector, a gas mask and black tactical gloves. He also had an assault rifle - not just a handgun. Whoever decided to be the CHL hero probably would have been one of the first to die.
I guess we won't ever know.

DMX7
07-22-2012, 02:08 PM
I guess we won't ever know.

You could take an educated guess.

Galileo
07-22-2012, 02:08 PM
The state has nuclear weapons. Should I be allowed to have one?

Yes, how would you protect yourself without one?

DMX7
07-22-2012, 02:13 PM
Yes, how would you protect yourself without one?

Touché! And James Holmes should have been allowed to have one as well. That would have ended up stupendously!

Freedommmmmmmm!

SA210
07-22-2012, 02:28 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177233/Dark-Knight-Rises-Aurora-Colorado-shooting-Video-gunman-James-Holmes-science-camp.html



Shy teen who turned into 'The Joker': Video reveals Dark Knight killer as student whose goal in life was to own a slurpee machine



James Holmes attended a science camp when he was 18-years-old

Appeared bright but nervous when talking about his research on 'temporal illusions' which focus on the cross between fantasy and reality

Launched gun attack which killed 12 during screening of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colorado on Thursday night
During the shooting spree, his semi-automatic rifle jammed during the attack forcing him to switch to a less-powerful gun

Police say he had been planning the attack for months
Friend says Holmes always got A's in school and never needed to study




They "supposedly" found match.com and adultfriendfinder.com accounts on him.

What do you guys think? Do you think this photo is legit? :lol




http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/21/article-2176793-14267ED9000005DC-108_634x612.jpg

ChumpDumper
07-22-2012, 02:35 PM
Yes I think this photoshop is legit.

scott
07-22-2012, 02:53 PM
Looks like he might be in front of a poster.

ChumpDumper
07-22-2012, 02:58 PM
Or dating a giant.

johnsmith
07-22-2012, 03:34 PM
Tells me I read the story wrong. It's the City of Aurora, Colorado that has the ordinance against concealed weapons.

http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm

In 2003, the State said their laws trumped city ordinance. Boulder has sued. I'm not sure where the ordinance stands.

I have 3 family members that have CHL's and all 3 live in different cities in Colorado.

Yonivore
07-22-2012, 04:03 PM
I have 3 family members that have CHL's and all 3 live in different cities in Colorado.
I thought I clarified, it's a city ordinance in Aurora that bans concealed carry, there's apparently a suit pending between the State and other cities with similar bans, and I'm not sure what the law is in Aurora, Colorado, whether there's an injunction on their ordinance, how it's being enforced, or what the public view is on whether or not they have the ability to carry guns legally into a theater.

You can bet if the City of Aurora has an ordinance banning the concealed carrying of firearms they're not going to advertise whether or not their ordinance is moot due to State law.

FromWayDowntown
07-22-2012, 04:47 PM
I'm at a loss as to how concealed carry could have been anything other than an aggravating force in this situation. A heavily protected gunman AND an adversary in a darkened and chaotic theater sounds likes recipe for increasing the problem, not solving it.

Galileo
07-22-2012, 04:53 PM
I'm at a loss as to how concealed carry could have been anything other than an aggravating force in this situation. A heavily protected gunman AND an adversary in a darkened and chaotic theater sounds likes recipe for increasing the problem, not solving it.

If the people in the theatre had been wearing body armor, none would have been killed.

Spurminator
07-22-2012, 05:05 PM
As we all know from gang fights, when both sides are armed and firing at each other, the conflict is resolved quickly, no one is ever harmed in the crossfire, and the possibility of future violence is reduced.

boutons_deux
07-22-2012, 06:03 PM
N.R.A. Proposes Sweeping Ban on Movies

Saying it was “high time to take action against the number one cause of violence in America,” the National Rifle Association issued a statement today urging a sweeping ban on movies.

Tracy Klugian, an official spokesperson for the gun-lobbying organization, said that the N.R.A. had taken this extraordinary step because it “could not stand idly by and watch movies tear apart the fabric of our civil society.”

To that end, Mr. Klugian said, the N.R.A. would use money from its PAC, the N.R.A. Political Victory Fund, to support politicians who favored a ban on filmed entertainment.

In the hours after the N.R.A.’s announcement, politicians on both sides of the aisle were quick to applaud the group for identifying what it called “a long overdue need for movie control.”

“It is time for us to stop the madness,” said Speaker of the House John Boehner. “As a first step, I am proposing legislation that would impose a two-year waiting period and background check before one is allowed to see a Hollywood release.”

Minutes later, the White House said that the Speaker’s proposal was “a good first step, but does not go far enough,” arguing that Congress had to “take a hard look at whether superhero costumes and masks should continue to be legal.”

All in all, the N.R.A.’s Klugian said he was “cautiously optimistic” that the organization’s call for new legislation would be heeded “because our message finally seems to be getting through: Guns don’t kill people. Movies kill people.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/07/nra-proposes-sweeping-ban-on-movies.html#ixzz21OZC3Yps

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 06:14 PM
^i'd support that before i supported banning guns. i think these guys might be on to something here. maybe you could pass a psych evaluation and iq test before being allowed into rated R movies, that's the nanny state you all wanted right??

DMX7
07-22-2012, 06:42 PM
^i'd support that before i supported banning guns. i think these guys might be on to something here. maybe you could pass a psych evaluation and iq test before being allowed into rated R movies, that's the nanny state you all wanted right??

You are so stupid. A giant fucking straw man is getting the shit beat out of it again. No one is suggesting banning all guns -- just sensible gun control legistlation which we don't have nearly enough of.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 07:00 PM
seems that you're the stupid one here. sensible gun control? that guy had no record and could have passed any background check you gave him, dumbass. odds are he did have to pass one, why wouldnt he be able to genius?

mercos
07-22-2012, 07:10 PM
For once, I have to agree with M>S. Gun control would not have stopped this kid from killing people. He was a smart guy, and he would have concocted something to harm people with. Guns are not the only weapons in the world. If someone is determined to hurt others, and intelligent enough to pull it enough, it is going to be nearly impossible to stop. Guns are just the easiest tool to use that is available. If you outlawed guns tomorrow, you'd just see a huge increase in stabbing deaths.

DMX7
07-22-2012, 07:17 PM
seems that you're the stupid one here. sensible gun control? that guy had no record and could have passed any background check you gave him, dumbass. odds are he did have to pass one, why wouldnt he be able to genius?

sensible gun control legislation includes more than a background check, dumbass. the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 included a ban on the ar-15 (i.e., the primary murder weapon). also, why would banning 50 & 100 round magazine clips not be sensible genius?

DMX7
07-22-2012, 07:25 PM
For once, I have to agree with M>S. Gun control would not have stopped this kid from killing people. He was a smart guy, and he would have concocted something to harm people with. Guns are not the only weapons in the world. If someone is determined to hurt others, and intelligent enough to pull it enough, it is going to be nearly impossible to stop. Guns are just the easiest tool to use that is available. If you outlawed guns tomorrow, you'd just see a huge increase in stabbing deaths.

the purpose of gun control legislation is not to prevent all murders or any kind from ever happening. however, placing restrictions on what you've described as the easiest tool of murder that is available is an obvious step in the right direction.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 07:26 PM
Because it only takes 1 shot to kill someone, and there is absolutely no way you could have screened this man that he wouldn't have passed with flying colors. He had a clean criminal record as well as psychological one, and was a phd student at the university. nothing short of taking away the 2nd amendment and rounding up every last gun over the course of many years would have stopped this man from doing what he did. and if you took away his right to purchase a firearm he would have just found an even more lethal way to accomplish his goal. can you imagine had he decided to construct a bomb and take it into the theatre instead? he would have killed a lot more people that way than you could with a 50 round clip. and if you outlawed 50 round clips, there's always the black market. ask the cops how criminalizing drugs is working out.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 07:29 PM
the purpose of gun control legislation is not to prevent all murders or any kind from ever happening. however, placing restrictions on what you've described as the easiest tool of murder that is available is an obvious step in the right direction.

except it isnt, because criminologist studies have shown the opposite. guns actually save many more lives than those who die from gun related violence, feel free to look it up. this is facts and science, something you may not be able to cope with. it's universally recognized by criminologists. just look at places like DC where they are banned, they actually have higher violent crime rates and gun crime. the problem is, bad guys can always illegally acquire guns just like they do drugs.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 07:31 PM
if banning guns made you safe, DC wouldn't be the murder capital of the country.

Spurminator
07-22-2012, 07:32 PM
Every time something like this happens, gun sales go through the roof as the NRA and others drum up the same tired "They're going to take your guns" fearmongering speeches, and Washington does little beyond discussing gun control.

I mean, if there's a conspiracy here, I'm not sure why anyone would think it's coming from the anti-gun side.

TDMVPDPOY
07-22-2012, 08:06 PM
did this happen inside the sitting area? htf did he manage to carry all those guns in? unless they are concealed in a backpack....

DMX7
07-22-2012, 08:07 PM
except it isnt, because criminologist studies have shown the opposite. guns actually save many more lives than those who die from gun related violence, feel free to look it up. this is facts and science, something you may not be able to cope with. it's universally recognized by criminologists. just look at places like DC where they are banned, they actually have higher violent crime rates and gun crime.

America is one of the most heavily armed countries in the industrialized world -- it also has one of the highest homicide rates in the industrialized world.


the problem is, bad guys can always illegally acquire guns just like they do drugs.

What's the problem with making it harder to acquire semi-automatic assault rifles? You keep generalizing my position. The NRA has your mind of fucking lockdown. I don't want to ban all guns. I'm not saying gun control legislation would have stopped this. I think it probably would have result is less carnage.

I guess there's no point is making murder illegal either. People who want to do it badly enough are just going to do it anyway.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 08:07 PM
did this happen inside the sitting area? htf did he manage to carry all those guns in? unless they are concealed in a backpack....

didn't he supposedly come in through the emergency exit?

IronMaxipad
07-22-2012, 08:08 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177233/Dark-Knight-Rises-Aurora-Colorado-shooting-Video-gunman-James-Holmes-science-camp.html




They "supposedly" found match.com and adultfriendfinder.com accounts on him.

What do you guys think? Do you think this photo is legit? :lol




http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/21/article-2176793-14267ED9000005DC-108_634x612.jpg

It's a poster..

http://i.imgur.com/SbW9j.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Keeley-Hazell-Bed-Poster-Print/dp/B001B2F718

jack sommerset
07-22-2012, 08:08 PM
Every time something like this happens, gun sales go through the roof as the NRA and others drum up the same tired "They're going to take your guns" fearmongering speeches, and Washington does little beyond discussing gun control.

I mean, if there's a conspiracy here, I'm not sure why anyone would think it's coming from the anti-gun side.

You have a very good point. Ive put off getting a rifle for months now but tomorrow I'm going to look at a savage 25 to purchase. God bless

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 08:12 PM
America is one of the most heavily armed countries in the industrialized world -- it also has one of the highest homicide rates in the industrialized world.



What's the problem with making it harder to acquire semi-automatic assault rifles? You keep generalizing my position. The NRA has your mind of fucking lockdown. I don't want to ban all guns. I'm not saying gun control legislation would have stopped this. I think it probably would have result is less carnage.

I guess there's no point is making murder illegal either. People who want to do it badly enough are just going to do it anyway.

You take a true point about america having a problem and find a convenient scapegoat for it, guns. Sorry, but guns don't kill people, people do. There is something terribly wrong with this society, as we have lost all sense of morality it seems. But we also have just as many crimes that don't involve guns as well. We also have way too many rapes, burglaries, assaults, theft, etc. We have a societal problem and a lot of hate in america that needs to be looked at, rather than taking the easy way out and finding a scapegoat we should take a look at ourselves and ask what's going wrong in our society.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 08:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

our non firearm homicide rate is twice as high as civilized countries like denmark and germany, and 4 times higher than switzerland.

think about all the sexual deviancy and crimes against children.

it's a societal problem.

Yonivore
07-22-2012, 08:26 PM
America is one of the most heavily armed countries in the industrialized world -- it also has one of the highest homicide rates in the industrialized world.



What's the problem with making it harder to acquire semi-automatic assault rifles? You keep generalizing my position. The NRA has your mind of fucking lockdown. I don't want to ban all guns. I'm not saying gun control legislation would have stopped this. I think it probably would have result is less carnage.

I guess there's no point is making murder illegal either. People who want to do it badly enough are just going to do it anyway.
Even though I disagree, I understood your position until the last paragraph.

Murder is the point when you violate someone else's Constitutional Rights. That's why it's illegal.

Were you aware Russia's murder rate is about 4 times ours and they all but disarmed their population during communist rule.

DMX7
07-22-2012, 08:29 PM
You take a true point about america having a problem and find a convenient scapegoat for it, guns.

No, that wasn't my point. I was contradicting your point that guns save lives. If America is so heavily armed, then why do we have such a high homicide rate with guns?

(America was 5th on that list for % of homicides with firearms -- only 1% behind Zimbabwe)

boutons_deux
07-22-2012, 09:18 PM
Look at the tin-pot, 3rd countries ahead of USA in firearm deaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

HI-FI
07-22-2012, 10:01 PM
Look at the tin-pot, 3rd countries ahead of USA in firearm deaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate


maybe if we didn't let in so many people from 3rd world countries, our crime rate would be much lower.

mercos
07-22-2012, 10:26 PM
What's the problem with making it harder to acquire semi-automatic assault rifles? You keep generalizing my position. The NRA has your mind of fucking lockdown. I don't want to ban all guns. I'm not saying gun control legislation would have stopped this. I think it probably would have result is less carnage.

I guess there's no point is making murder illegal either. People who want to do it badly enough are just going to do it anyway.


I was not opposed to the assault weapons ban, but I don't think that will solve anything now. There are so many assault weapons out there, if you outlawed them you would just be creating a black market and drive up their price. Those that really want to get their hands on them will, just as they do with drugs today.

I still maintain that there is nothing that could have been done to stop this particular guy. If he didn't have access to guns, he likely would have built homemade bombs or something else in order to kill multiple people. This type of incident is rare, and sadly there isn't much that can be done to stop it.

If you want to stop the majority of gun violence, then I think you are more likely to succeed if you tackle the societal issues that cause everyday gun violence. One of the biggest causes of crime in this country is poverty. We have fought wars on drugs and terror, but we have abandoned the war on poverty, which is possibly the most important battle we face.

SA210
07-22-2012, 10:41 PM
It's a poster..

http://i.imgur.com/SbW9j.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Keeley-Hazell-Bed-Poster-Print/dp/B001B2F718


I wasn't referring to the poster. That's obvious. I was referring to his stupid hair.

Galileo
07-22-2012, 11:35 PM
I was not opposed to the assault weapons ban, but I don't think that will solve anything now. There are so many assault weapons out there, if you outlawed them you would just be creating a black market and drive up their price. Those that really want to get their hands on them will, just as they do with drugs today.

I still maintain that there is nothing that could have been done to stop this particular guy. If he didn't have access to guns, he likely would have built homemade bombs or something else in order to kill multiple people. This type of incident is rare, and sadly there isn't much that can be done to stop it.

If you want to stop the majority of gun violence, then I think you are more likely to succeed if you tackle the societal issues that cause everyday gun violence. One of the biggest causes of crime in this country is poverty. We have fought wars on drugs and terror, but we have abandoned the war on poverty, which is possibly the most important battle we face.

If the CIA is going to program a Manchurian candidate killer, nothing is likely to stop it.

Ron and Rand Paul have a bill pending in congress that would make it illegal for US intelligence agencies to program killers for the purpose of false-flag operations, but Harry Reid continues to block it in the Senate.

AussieFanKurt
07-22-2012, 11:58 PM
da fuck?

FuzzyLumpkins
07-22-2012, 11:59 PM
Even though I disagree, I understood your position until the last paragraph.

Murder is the point when you violate someone else's Constitutional Rights. That's why it's illegal.

Were you aware Russia's murder rate is about 4 times ours and they all but disarmed their population during communist rule.

How about you compare our murder rates to countries that are similar to our own. Oh i guess that because we have at least 4 times the murder rate of all western european countries.

Galileo
07-23-2012, 01:46 AM
Aurora Massacre: What Does the Location of the Gas Mask Tell Us? What About Security Cameras? Are They Related?

I just found out that the judge in this case has sealed the case because disclosure of the facts would be “contrary to public interests” and that the request to do that was made on Friday just hours after the event.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/aurora-massacre-what-does-the-location-of-the-gas-mask-tell-us-what-about-security-cameras-are-they-related/

FuzzyLumpkins
07-23-2012, 02:25 AM
As for the mind control angle, is there any evidence of this type of 'mind control' outside of the asinine conspiracy theories. Has for example there ever been 'mind control' to do something noble or even benign? Or is it just a case where the CIA/NSA saves it for JFK, the Twin Towers, McVeigh and this guy?

The Reckoning
07-23-2012, 02:40 AM
i use a semi auto rifle to hunt (SKS). its the perfect hog gun.

The Reckoning
07-23-2012, 02:41 AM
It's a poster..

http://i.imgur.com/SbW9j.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Keeley-Hazell-Bed-Poster-Print/dp/B001B2F718



fap fap fap

Wild Cobra
07-23-2012, 02:57 AM
I'm at a loss as to how concealed carry could have been anything other than an aggravating force in this situation. A heavily protected gunman AND an adversary in a darkened and chaotic theater sounds likes recipe for increasing the problem, not solving it.
Criminals thrive in the lawful being restricted. Knowing that law abiding citizens will not be armed made this a good place to get his jollies.

Wild Cobra
07-23-2012, 03:02 AM
It's a poster..

http://i.imgur.com/SbW9j.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Keeley-Hazell-Bed-Poster-Print/dp/B001B2F718
Beautiful chick, but do you think her 32F's are real?

SA210
07-23-2012, 03:14 AM
Aurora Massacre: What Does the Location of the Gas Mask Tell Us? What About Security Cameras? Are They Related?

I just found out that the judge in this case has sealed the case because disclosure of the facts would be “contrary to public interests” and that the request to do that was made on Friday just hours after the event.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/aurora-massacre-what-does-the-location-of-the-gas-mask-tell-us-what-about-security-cameras-are-they-related/

Reminds me of JFK

ChumpDumper
07-23-2012, 03:29 AM
Reminds me of JFKYes, a lot of idiots came up with stupid conspiracy theories about JFK as well.

Astute observation. :tu

Galileo
07-23-2012, 06:54 AM
follow the bloody footprints.

Galileo
07-23-2012, 07:00 AM
Is it possible that James Holmes was set up? Think about this:

James Holmes goes out Tuesday night drinking and someone doses him. They do it early Wed morning so they have time in his apartment to set up those elaborate traps (how would James have known how to construct those anyway?)

They keep him drugged and off the radar till Thursday night when they go to the theater. They make sure to park in that spot, right next to the exit of the theater.

The assailant goes in, fakes the phone call, comes out, goes to the car where James is still drugged, gets the gear on, goes in and attacks the innocent civilians.

Then the assailant comes out the exit door, leans against it while dropping the gun and removing almost all of his gear with the exception of the mask.

He runs past the car dropping the gear next to it in a heap, opens the door with James inside, tosses the guns into the car, the shotgun has been there all along, and goes straight down the length of the building toward the corner, toward the camera, drops his mask directly under the camera, and heads off to the nearby street where a car is waiting (cruising slowly) to pick him up.

Holmes is reported to have been “meek” when arrested. This might also explain why he wasn’t shot by police… he was incapacitated, incoherent, or generally not a threat.

Holmes, who is being held under suicide watch in solitary confinement, remained in his murderous “Joker” persona after his arrival, a jailhouse worker told the Daily News.“He thinks he’s acting in a movie,” a prison employee told the Daily News.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/aurora-massacre-what-does-the-location-of-the-gas-mask-tell-us-what-about-security-cameras-are-they-related/

Galileo
07-23-2012, 07:10 AM
We are being set up. From Aurora “massacre” (media contradictions) now to “warnings” of a Terrorist attack at the Olympics. Major, Serious- questions……

Many are questioning how a student who did not have much money was able to afford over $20,000 of arms and ammunition. Besides how he had the sophisticated knowledge to put together the type of booby traps they are saying was in his apartment.

No one saw his face in the theater as it was covered up. Also it seems he is not right in the mind as those who are in the prison right now are saying that he is acting like he is in the movie constantly and he is totally nuts.

My question is, how could someone like that function enough to put together all those things that were needed to plan the attack? Besides if this was planned for months and he was a crazed person planning it, how come he did not act completely crazed in public? He would have acted nuts walking down the street if he was anything like they are saying he is in jail right now. Another question, how did he live in the apartment that was being booby trapped and not accidentally set anything off?

Another question: Has anyone asked those that live at the apartments if UPS and Fed Ex and the USPS were constantly delivering packages to his apartment? The media is claiming he purchased all the ammunition over the internet: 6000 rounds of it, besides his other “killing” gear.

**as I was writing this the media is saying he had 90 packages delivered by UPS to his “office”, but they are saying he was not working at the time and he had dropped out of school. So…. where was this “office” that he had things delivered to, if not his apartment? The media is not saying where this “office” was… only delivered to his “office.”****

This does not compute! We are hearing he was on unemployment… now we are hearing packages delivered to some office! They are getting their stories mixed up…. trying to set it up, yet contradictions are taking place.

There are witnesses who are saying that someone opened the emergency exit and let the gunman in.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/we-are-being-set-up-from-aurora-massacre-media-contradictions-now-to-warnings-of-a-terrorist-attack-at-the-olympics-major-serious-questions/18146/

boutons_deux
07-23-2012, 08:24 AM
Evangelical Leaders Blame Liberals, Media For Aurora Shootings, Say Only Christian Victims Will Go To Heaven

If a Christian dies early, if a Christian dies young, it seems tragic, but really it is not tragic because they are going to a wonderful place.. on the other hand, if a person doesn’t know Jesus Christ.. if they knowingly rejected Jesus Christ, then, basically, they are going to a terrible place.

I have to think that all of this, whether it’s the Hollywood movies, whether it’s what we see on the internets, whether it’s liberal bias in the media, whether it’s our politicians changing public policy, I think all of those somehow have fit together—and I have to say also churches who are leaving the authority of Scripture and losing their fear of God—all of those things have seem to have come together to give us these kinds of incidents.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/07/22/562211/evangelical-leaders-blame-liberals-media-for-aurora-shootings-say-only-christian-victims-will-go-to-heaven/

vy65
07-23-2012, 10:50 AM
Japan prohibits handgun possession by citizens. Shotguns and rifles for hunting or sports may be possessed upon completion of a licensing procedure that requires a police background check, successful completion of a safety course, passing of shooting, written, and psychological tests, and police verification of secure storage, prior to approval being granted by the police to purchase a firearm.[29] Fully automatic weapons are restricted to military and police. Gun owners must take a class once a year and pass a written test. Police check on the owner once every three months on an unannounced visit.[Source?] They inspect the gun locker, proper ammunition storage, and the firearm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_law

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/214.full.pdf

Why does the country with the most stringent gun control laws have the lowest homicide rate?

velik_m
07-23-2012, 10:52 AM
Yes, a lot of idiots came up with stupid conspiracy theories about JFK as well.

Astute observation. :tu

They are not idiots, conspiracy theories are just coping mechanism. It's easier for them to believe there are some shadow men with secret grand plans behind every major event, than to accept that the world is just one big chaos full of random uncontrolable events.

boutons_deux
07-23-2012, 11:39 AM
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/14/24/25/3229047/7/centerpiecewide.jpg

http://www.mysanantonio.com/

jack sommerset
07-23-2012, 12:25 PM
I read somewhere they dyed his hair for his court appearance. God bless

TDMVPDPOY
07-23-2012, 07:01 PM
how come the govt dont talk about gun control? they scared??

boutons_deux
07-23-2012, 07:05 PM
how come the govt dont talk about gun control? they scared??

govt is scared of the NRA $Ms.

Clipper Nation
07-23-2012, 07:23 PM
govt is scared of the NRA $Ms.

Sadly, that's probably the real reason why, even though better justifications are the Second Amendment and the failure of other federal blanket bans, tbh....

scott
07-23-2012, 08:04 PM
And probably also because Obama still has no interest in taking your guns.

boutons_deux
07-23-2012, 10:13 PM
Sadly, that's probably the real reason why, even though better justifications are the Second Amendment and the failure of other federal blanket bans, tbh....

2nd Amendment? :lol

NRA propaganda, suckering the "patriot" bubbas. Whining about the 2nd Amendment is smokescreen for the NRA hyping the guns/ammo businesses that finance NRA.

SA210
07-23-2012, 11:12 PM
L4vjh4yz-Gk

ChumpDumper
07-24-2012, 03:02 AM
L4vjh4yz-GkNot going to watch it.

Tell us what you think really happened in Aurora.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-24-2012, 03:48 AM
They are not idiots, conspiracy theories are just coping mechanism. It's easier for them to believe there are some shadow men with secret grand plans behind every major event, than to accept that the world is just one big chaos full of random uncontrolable events.

'Weak-minded fool' work better?

TBH, I see it more as people who try to profit --even if it is just for interwebs jollies-- off of tragedy.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-24-2012, 03:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

our non firearm homicide rate is twice as high as civilized countries like denmark and germany, and 4 times higher than switzerland.

think about all the sexual deviancy and crimes against children.

it's a societal problem.

And it's like 6 to 8 times higher in gun related homicides. Do you understand the notion of proportion?

Your assertion about sex crimes is flat ass wrong. Look up rape statistics and get back to us.

No one is going to argue that we are not more violent but what you are saying is like saying that they should allow ex-cons to have guns because they would be violent anyway. It's a personality problem not a gun problem.

velik_m
07-24-2012, 06:08 AM
'Weak-minded fool' work better?

TBH, I see it more as people who try to profit --even if it is just for interwebs jollies-- off of tragedy.

People with mental issues would be better, IMO.

SA210
07-24-2012, 11:18 PM
Thank you Ben Swann :tu:tu

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ChumpDumper
07-25-2012, 03:35 AM
Why is an Oompa Loompa anchoring that newscast?

And Ben Swann is full of shit.

SA210
07-26-2012, 03:11 AM
http://theintelhub.com/2012/07/26/we-have-been-lied-too-proof/


We have been lied to. AURORA — The following is a timeline of actual events that took place just after the mass shooting was reported to 911 in a Colorado theatre during a midnight showing of the new Batman film:
4 MIN. 30 SEC… SUSPECT CAUGHT


6 MIN 46 SEC… “One of the shooters is wearing white and blue clothing”

8 MIN 6 SEC… WITNESSES REPORT MULTIPLE SUSPECTS


16 MIN 8 SEC… MALE SUSPECT SEEN WITH RED BACK PACK AND ANOTHER ALL IN BLACK FLEEING THE SCENE


16 MIN. 47 SEC… Cops describe one of the suspects as male, dressed in black camo, vest, gas mask, and possessing multiple long guns.


17 MIN 48 SEC… JAMES HOLMES WAS NAMED…. BUT SECONDS BEFORE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A SECOND SUSPECT ON LOOSE…. GOT AWAY
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SUSPECT ATTEMPTED TO KIDNAP LITTLE GIRL, STABBED HER OUTSIDE, SHE RAN INSIDE DISPATCH STATES ONE SUSPECT ON RUN, AFTER ONE SUSPECT WAS CAUGHT

------------------------------------------------------------------------

James Holmes’ “Mentor” Admits To Mind Manipulation

http://theintelhub.com/2012/07/26/james-holmes-mentor-admits-to-mind-manipulation/#respond


“… it’s possible… for us to manipulate temporal order, we have loads of power over temporal order, if events happen in the order A/B, a good psycho-physicist can have the subject experience it as B/A, this is routine…”

ChumpDumper
07-26-2012, 03:25 AM
You're such a fucking hero for posting that.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-26-2012, 04:20 AM
As for the mind control angle, is there any evidence of this type of 'mind control' outside of the asinine conspiracy theories. Has for example there ever been 'mind control' to do something noble or even benign? Or is it just a case where the CIA/NSA saves it for JFK, the Twin Towers, McVeigh and this guy?

SA210
07-26-2012, 03:01 PM
OL0fheIIKmI

:lol

Clipper Nation
07-26-2012, 03:43 PM
2nd Amendment? :lol

NRA propaganda, suckering the "patriot" bubbas. Whining about the 2nd Amendment is smokescreen for the NRA hyping the guns/ammo businesses that finance NRA.
WTF are you talking about? You should probably read the Constitution before you blather out your usual partisan crap, tbh....

By the way, liberals whining about the NRA crack me up, since they often help advance gun control legislation.... they'll make every concession and donation they need to in order to stave off a full repulsion of the 2nd Amendment, but they're not fully anti-gun control...

johnsmith
07-26-2012, 03:44 PM
OL0fheIIKmI

:lol

For some reason that is totally beyond me, I actually watched about 30 seconds of this video.

If you're taking this guy serious, then I just don't know what to say.

ChumpDumper
07-26-2012, 11:07 PM
I saw three seconds. Can't stop laughing.

Agloco
07-26-2012, 11:13 PM
OL0fheIIKmI

:lol

Mouse?

SA210
07-27-2012, 05:46 PM
DnpvqU333n0

ChumpDumper
07-27-2012, 05:50 PM
:lmao

leemajors
07-27-2012, 06:36 PM
http://i.imgur.com/p9CiE.jpg

ChumpDumper
07-27-2012, 06:56 PM
:rollin

Galileo
07-27-2012, 07:21 PM
NOW THE OFFICIAL STORY IS THAT HE WAS DRUGGED WHEN THEY FOUND HIM

Batman Colorado shooting: James Holmes fixated by altered states of mind

James Holmes, the alleged "Joker" gunman, described his fascination with altered states of mind in a lecture to other students, and dosed up on prescription medication before the atrocity, it emerged on Sunday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9419299/Batman-Colorado-shooting-James-Holmes-fixated-by-altered-states-of-mind.html

Galileo
07-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Holmes was not arrested coming out of the theater. He was found already in the car. Aurora Massacre: “Is that the dude in the white car nearby?”

Aurora Massacre: “Is that the dude in the white car nearby?” by Scott Creighton

James Holmes was NOT arrested coming out of Theater 9

Listening to the audio of the police communications this morning I found something very interesting… they did not arrest Holmes coming out of the back of the theater. He was found in the car. We also now know he was drugged. These developments support my original conclusion.

It would appear from the transcripts of the police communications that they saw Holmes in the car, looked in and saw the weapons, and broke the window to gain access to him.

After a police officer reports that someone needs to check out the report of a guy in the back parking lot wearing a gas mask, immediately another officer asks “Is that the dude in the white car nearby?“

The recording is here. Scroll to the bottom to find the video. I will try to post it. The following transcript starts at the 2:40 mark.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/aurora-massacre-is-that-the-dude-in-the-white-car-nearby/

ChumpDumper
07-27-2012, 07:30 PM
NOW THE OFFICIAL STORY IS THAT HE WAS DRUGGED WHEN THEY FOUND HIM

Batman Colorado shooting: James Holmes fixated by altered states of mind

James Holmes, the alleged "Joker" gunman, described his fascination with altered states of mind in a lecture to other students, and dosed up on prescription medication before the atrocity, it emerged on Sunday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9419299/Batman-Colorado-shooting-James-Holmes-fixated-by-altered-states-of-mind.htmlWow, Vicodin -- Brett Favre killed entire football defenses while on that stuff.

Galileo
07-27-2012, 11:51 PM
Aurora Massacre: James Holmes Mugshot Taken Same Day of his Court Appearance? by Scott Creighton

When someone is taken into custody and booked by the Sheriff’s office or city police departments, they are typically fingerprinted and photographed BEFORE they are processed into the system. During that processing they are stripped and put in prisoner’s clothing, usually an orange jump suit which they wear for the duration of their stay (unless they are in the “turtle suit”). That means when they are photographed for their mugshot, they are still in whatever clothing they were wearing when they were arrested. If you need proof of this, just go to your local convenience store and glance at one of those horrid little books on the counter showing who got arrested in your community. You will notice what they are wearing.

It would appear to me that James Holmes’ mug shot was taken on Monday morning right before he went into the courtroom. That begs the question, why?

And while we are talking about strange discrepancies, how come there is such a striking shift in his reported behavior during the attack?

Here is James Holmes’ booking mugshot. Now remember, at first they claimed they were not going to release his mug shot, but then, right before his court appearance, an hour before, they released it for some reason.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/aurora-massacre-james-holmes-mugshot-taken-same-day-of-his-court-appearance/

ChumpDumper
07-28-2012, 12:00 AM
When someone is taken into custody and booked by the Sheriff’s office or city police departments, they are typically fingerprinted and photographed BEFORE they are processed into the system. During that processing they are stripped and put in prisoner’s clothing, usually an orange jump suit which they wear for the duration of their stay (unless they are in the “turtle suit”). That means when they are photographed for their mugshot, they are still in whatever clothing they were wearing when they were arrested. If you need proof of this, just go to your local convenience store and glance at one of those horrid little books on the counter showing who got arrested in your community. You will notice what they are wearing.His clothes are evidence.

SA210
07-28-2012, 01:49 AM
Aurora Massacre: James Holmes Mugshot Taken Same Day of his Court Appearance? by Scott Creighton

When someone is taken into custody and booked by the Sheriff’s office or city police departments, they are typically fingerprinted and photographed BEFORE they are processed into the system. During that processing they are stripped and put in prisoner’s clothing, usually an orange jump suit which they wear for the duration of their stay (unless they are in the “turtle suit”). That means when they are photographed for their mugshot, they are still in whatever clothing they were wearing when they were arrested. If you need proof of this, just go to your local convenience store and glance at one of those horrid little books on the counter showing who got arrested in your community. You will notice what they are wearing.

It would appear to me that James Holmes’ mug shot was taken on Monday morning right before he went into the courtroom. That begs the question, why?

And while we are talking about strange discrepancies, how come there is such a striking shift in his reported behavior during the attack?

Here is James Holmes’ booking mugshot. Now remember, at first they claimed they were not going to release his mug shot, but then, right before his court appearance, an hour before, they released it for some reason.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/aurora-massacre-james-holmes-mugshot-taken-same-day-of-his-court-appearance/



He has the exact same facial hair growth on Monday that he did on Friday? Now remember, the booking photo was supposedly taken when he was booked, on Friday morning, 3+ days before he went to court. But his facial hair is exactly the same? Take a look at the Adult Friend Finder pictures of Holmes. Obviously he can grow more facial hair. But here we see him with the exact same facial hair growth supposedly 3 days later.
Why is he already wearing the orange jumpsuit? And why does he look to be in the same emotional state as the did in court?


they release the mug shot that day after claiming they won’t release it
his facial hair growth is exactly the same
he is outfitted in orange jumpsuit which he wouldn’t get typically till after the mug shot

What does all this add up to? His mugshot was taken on Monday, right before he appeared in court.


Now why would they do that? Because James Holmes was so drugged when they found him already in the white car, he was too incapacitated to stand for the mugshot.


ABC “news’ is reporting that Holmes was running around in the theater screaming and acting like a madman, literally picking people up and shooting them with the other hand.

(It’s important to remember that ABC “News’ deliberately misrepresented a statement made by James Holmes’ mother (http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/national/wptv-james-holmes-mother-arlene-holmes-says-abc-news-falsely-reported-her-initial-media-statement1343230896436) on the day of the shooting)

“Clad in head-to-toe combat gear, Holmes allegedly burst into a midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises,” tossed gas canisters into the crowd and opened fire. Friends Stephanie Davies and Allie Young, who attended, said the gunman moved around the room yelling and seemingly targeting people.


“He would shout, `What are you doing? I said stand up!’ And he would pick people up. I saw him stand over someone. I just see hair and him holding the shirt and `boom,”‘ said Davies, 21.” ABC “News” (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=8748243)
Wow, what a crazed madman.. too bad that story is nothing like the myriad of reports that came out from witnesses right after the attack.

“He looked so calm when he did it,” an eyewitness told NBC affiliate KUSA (http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx). “It was like scary. He waited for both the bombs to explode before he did anything. Then, after both of them exploded, he began to shoot.”


“He had no specific target. He just started letting loose,” the witness added. MSNBC July 20th (http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12854157-aurora-suspect-james-holmes-was-buying-guns-dropping-out-of-graduate-school?lite)


“Witnesses at the Century Aurora 16 complex said Holmes, 24, slipped into the midnight premier of “The Dark Knight Rises” through an emergency exit door, armed with three guns and wearing a ballistic helmet, gas mask and body shields. He tossed two hissing gas canisters and calmly walked up the aisle firing at movie-goers, killing 12 and wounding 58.” Daily Record 7/21 (http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/ci_21130325/aurora-police-chief-gunman-acted-calculation-and-deliberation)


“He was so calm it was scary.” “He never said a word” MSNBC broadcast (http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/48265059#48265059)

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 02:05 AM
This is how 9-11 Trutherism got started.

SA210
07-28-2012, 02:25 AM
Kay Wilkes, on July 26, 2012 at 7:00 pm (http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/aurora-massacre-james-holmes-mugshot-taken-same-day-of-his-court-appearance/#comment-38303) said:

It’s pretty much verbatim the same thing.
Sirhan Sirhan:





Pretty much

Drachen
07-28-2012, 02:39 AM
This is how 9-11 Trutherism got started.

Yep and birtherism

Galileo
07-28-2012, 03:02 AM
Dispatch Audio of Theater Shooting Indicates Multiple Suspects - FALSE FLAG? (VIDEO)

4 MIN. 30 SEC... SUSPECT CAUGHT
6 MIN 46 SEC. SHOOTER DESCRIBED WHITE AND BLUE CLOTHING
8 MIN 6 SEC. WITNESSES REPORT MULTIPLE SUSPECTS
16 MIN 8 SEC. MALE SUSPECT SEEN WITH RED BACK PACK
16 MIN 20 SEC ANOTHER SUSPECT ALL IN BLACK FLEEING THE SCENE
16 MIN 47 SEC SUSPECT MALE UNKOWN RACE BLACK CAMEO CLOTHING
17 MIN 48 SEC JAMES HOLMES WAS NAMED BUT SECONDS BEFORE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A SECOND SUSPECT ON LOOSE.. GOT AWAY..

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?384565-Dispatch-Audio-of-Theater-Shooting-Indicates-Multiple-Suspects-FALSE-FLAG

SA210
07-28-2012, 12:40 PM
^^ ::crickets:: of course lol Stupid small brains can't handle that information

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MaNuMaNiAc
07-28-2012, 01:08 PM
Galileo has never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like. Its quite pathetic

mouse
07-28-2012, 01:21 PM
http://www.thegovernmentrag.com/

get the facts

Galileo
07-28-2012, 01:42 PM
Galileo has never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like. Its quite pathetic

A composite showing the 3 gas mask at the theater shooting, as well at
least to piles of equipment, one by gas mask 1, and one by gas mask 2.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ussew

SA210
07-28-2012, 02:12 PM
A composite showing the 3 gas mask at the theater shooting, as well at
least to piles of equipment, one by gas mask 1, and one by gas mask 2.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ussew

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/ussew.jpg

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 02:27 PM
Never mind, I overlooked the insets.

But, tell me, what does it mean that there were three gas masks in the vicinity of the suspect's vehicle, parked near the emergency exit?

I'll tell you what it means to me.

Police received reports of tear gas being dispersed in the theater; they donned their gas masks in preparation of entering the theater and, whey they encounter Holmes, outside the theater, near his car, they took them off and dropped them on the ground while taking him into custody.

To preserve the crime scene -- everything was left where it lay.

What's you conspiracy?

SA210
07-28-2012, 02:42 PM
To preserve the crime scene -- everything was left where it lay.




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Galileo
07-28-2012, 02:44 PM
Never mind, I overlooked the insets.

But, tell me, what does it mean that there were three gas masks in the vicinity of the suspect's vehicle, parked near the emergency exit?

I'll tell you what it means to me.

Police received reports of tear gas being dispersed in the theater; they donned their gas masks in preparation of entering the theater and, whey they encounter Holmes, outside the theater, near his car, they took them off and dropped them on the ground while taking him into custody.

To preserve the crime scene -- everything was left where it lay.

What's you conspiracy?

err, ahh, maybe three shooters?

:lmao

Wild Cobra
07-28-2012, 03:11 PM
err, ahh, maybe three shooters?

:lmao

Unlikely. I'm pretty sure they would have said so.

Yoni's assumption has merit, and is probably what occurred.

SA210
07-28-2012, 03:56 PM
I don't know if this has been posted yet but here it is just in case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzcE0V5jVJY

Yes it has, but these details get ignored because it's too scary for them to find out that their government and media lies to them and changes stories to this degree.

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Yonivore
07-28-2012, 04:03 PM
Yes it has, but these details get ignored because it's too scary for them to find out that their government and media lies to them and changes stories to this degree.

yzcE0V5jVJY
Again, where's the conspiracy?

Witness statement is perfectly consistent with Holmes pretending to take a phone call, using that as an excuse to leave by an emergency exit, propping the door open or blocking the latch, donning his costume and arsenal, and coming back in a bit later to start shooting?

Seeing gas being thrown from a different direction could just as easily be explained by a canister ricocheting off a wall and not being seen by the witness until it had changed directions.

You see, things were pretty fucking crazy in the theater about right then.

What's your story?

SA210
07-28-2012, 05:32 PM
Again, where's the conspiracy?

Witness statement is perfectly consistent with Holmes pretending to take a phone call, using that as an excuse to leave by an emergency exit, propping the door open or blocking the latch, donning his costume and arsenal, and coming back in a bit later to start shooting?



That's funny, because you admit then he was already in the theater taking a seat, he was obviously next to someone, but of all the witnesses possible, not one witness has yet to say they saw THIS particular man as the person who got the phone call, "or pretend" to get the phone call, nor did they or anyone ever identify the guy getting a phone call as someone with RED hair, and if he were wearing anything over his hair those details would have been said too! You know that red hair would have stood out to me if he was sitting around me, or next to me, shit in fact sitting ANYWHERE in a BATMAN sold out 12am screening, ANYONE would have seen that when he walked out. Especially when he first walked in anywhere in the theater beforehand in the lobby, but nobody knows of a man with red hair lol No video proof anywhere? lol

If a witness cannot identify his actual face, and no video camera proof that is UNTOUCHED, and all we are going by is the official word...then :rollin

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 05:38 PM
That's funny, because you admit then he was already in the theater taking a seat, he was obviously next to someone, but of all the witnesses possible, not one witness has yet to say they saw THIS particular man as the person who got the phone call, "or pretend" to get the phone call, nor did they or anyone ever identify the guy getting a phone call as someone with RED hair, and if he were wearing anything over his hair those details would have been said too! You know that red hair would have stood out to me if he was sitting around me, or next to me, shit in fact sitting ANYWHERE in a BATMAN sold out 12am screening, ANYONE would have seen that when he walked out. Especially when he first walked in anywhere in the theater beforehand in the lobby, but nobody knows of a man with red hair lol No video proof anywhere? lol

If a witness cannot identify his actual face, and no video camera proof that is UNTOUCHED, and all we are going by is the official word...then :rollin
Fuck! Now, I'm part of the conspiracy.

Sorry, I haven't been poring over every minute detail of the Colorado shooting.

So, tell me again, because, I haven't been paying attention; why did the government do this?

And, wouldn't it more fit the pattern of government hysteria-mongering if they made Holmes a Muslim?

SA210
07-28-2012, 05:47 PM
Fuck! Now, I'm part of the conspiracy.



I never said anything like that. But since you mention it, You are only part of a conspiracy in the sense that you are one of the many fooled into believing that they don't happen. You can read, you have read reasons why they would do it, or maybe you haven't as you basically said you haven't read every detail, and you have also read my points on witness accounts NOT referring to the man having RED hair.

Do your own research, keep an open mind and you'll see some pretty obvious facts that you don't want to believe about our fine country.

I find it funny that those who haven't read the details and pretend to ignore videos happen to have an opinion and are so sure that nothing is fishy lol

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 06:00 PM
I never said anything like that.
You said I admitted something when I did no such thing.


But since you mention it, You are only part of a conspiracy in the sense that you are one of the many fooled into believing that they don't happen. You can read, you have read reasons why they would do it, or maybe you haven't as you basically said you haven't read every detail, and you have also read my points on witness accounts NOT referring to the man having RED hair.
Have you ever been present during a chaotic crime?


Do your own research, keep an open mind and you'll see some pretty obvious facts that you don't want to believe about our fine country.

I find it funny that those who haven't read the details and pretend to ignore videos happen to have an opinion and are so sure that nothing is fishy lol
The internet lies, SA210; the internet lies, big time. Unless you have first hand knowledge of some conspiracy, it's best not to turn the sound of hooves beating the ground into zebras when they're most likely just jackasses.

SA210
07-28-2012, 06:12 PM
You said I admitted something when I did no such thing.

My point was that YOU "acknowledge" that he/they were in the theater with a phone, or "pretending" to answer a call BEFORE someone came in shooting. Which means someone must have seen what that guy looked like and definitely would have noticed RED hair.



Have you ever been present during a chaotic crime?

Yes.

And besides that, chaos didn't happen until later, AFTER the cell phone guy left and came back in "supposedly", and people were shot, so it is normal to notice BEFORE chaos, the guy who got a phone call and exited the exit door during one of the greatest premiere's of a movie ever known.



The internet lies, SA210; the internet lies, big time. Unless you have first hand knowledge of some conspiracy, it's best not to turn the sound of hooves beating the ground into zebras when they're most likely just jackasses.

The internet does lie. That's why we have to be careful and do our own research. You should start soon. It's harmful to the country for you to be so misinformed and blind to some realities.

Galileo
07-28-2012, 06:36 PM
Again, where's the conspiracy?

Witness statement is perfectly consistent with Holmes pretending to take a phone call, using that as an excuse to leave by an emergency exit, propping the door open or blocking the latch, donning his costume and arsenal, and coming back in a bit later to start shooting?

Seeing gas being thrown from a different direction could just as easily be explained by a canister ricocheting off a wall and not being seen by the witness until it had changed directions.

You see, things were pretty fucking crazy in the theater about right then.

What's your story?

The person who took the phone was shorter than Holmes, Holmes was 6 feet tall.

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 06:39 PM
My point was that YOU "acknowledge" that he/they were in the theater with a phone, or "pretending" to answer a call BEFORE someone came in shooting. Which means someone must have seen what that guy looked like and definitely would have noticed RED hair.
I acknowledged nothing. I watched several seconds of your video and was able to imagine a plausible scenario over why what was said didn't prove some outlandish government conspiracy.


Yes.

And besides that, chaos didn't happen until later, AFTER the cell phone guy left and came back in "supposedly", and people were shot, so it is normal to notice BEFORE chaos, the guy who got a phone call and exited the exit door during one of the greatest premiere's of a movie ever known.
Okay, theory number two. Cell phone guy had nothing to do with the shooting.

But, more likely, is not all witness statements are reaching your brain and conspiracy theorists are cherry-picking those that fit a narrative, squeezing them into a YouTube video, and letting you go to town.

Seriously, how do you sleep at night and why haven't at least some of these conspiracists been eliminated? That fucking Alex Jones would be first on my list if I were an evil government black ops traitor. But yet, he keeps ranting...

But wait, you say! That'd be too suspicious!

Of course, you say that as you also accuse the government of a pretty fucking elaborate ruse. I'm think they could take Alex Jones out and make it look like an accident, suicide, or natural causes.

(God, I hope nothing happens to Jones in the next few weeks, I really don't have time to talk to federal investigators right now.)



The internet does lie. That's why we have to be careful and do our own research. You should start soon. It's harmful to the country for you to be so misinformed and blind to some realities.
I remember some of those early chicken wire and cinder block experiments. They were ... how you say ... stupid?

Seriously, get help.

SA210
07-28-2012, 07:04 PM
I acknowledged nothing. I watched several seconds of your video and was able to imagine a plausible scenario over why what was said didn't prove some outlandish government conspiracy.


Okay, theory number two. Cell phone guy had nothing to do with the shooting.

But, more likely, is not all witness statements are reaching your brain and conspiracy theorists are cherry-picking those that fit a narrative, squeezing them into a YouTube video, and letting you go to town.

Seriously, how do you sleep at night and why haven't at least some of these conspiracists been eliminated? That fucking Alex Jones would be first on my list if I were an evil government black ops traitor. But yet, he keeps ranting...

But wait, you say! That'd be too suspicious!

Of course, you say that as you also accuse the government of a pretty fucking elaborate ruse. I'm think they could take Alex Jones out and make it look like an accident, suicide, or natural causes.

(God, I hope nothing happens to Jones in the next few weeks, I really don't have time to talk to federal investigators right now.)



I remember some of those early chicken wire and cinder block experiments. They were ... how you say ... stupid?

Seriously, get help.

You need the help, tbh. More than you know.

Pretty soon you'll end up on ignore just like Blake and Dumpster. You know, morons with no clue. I have no time to waste on closed minded hateful individuals. I guess there is not one false flag operation that our government does here on our soil or anywhere else? JFK Im sure you believe was done by Oswald and Oswald alone lol. I'm sure the lies to get us into the Vietnam War that Jesse Ventura talks about are not true huh? Even though they admitted it lol

Goodbye..

Galileo
07-28-2012, 07:26 PM
You need the help, tbh. More than you know.

Pretty soon you'll end up on ignore just like Blake and Dumpster. You know, morons with no clue. I have no time to waste on closed minded hateful individuals. I guess there is not one false flag operation that our government does here on our soil or anywhere else? JFK Im sure you believe was done by Oswald and Oswald alone lol. I'm sure the lies to get us into the Vietnam War that Jesse Ventura talks about are not true huh? Even though they admitted it lol

Goodbye..

Blake & the Dumpster are socialists, they believe government works, government is the answer, the same philosophy as Karl Marx and Barack Obama.. They cannot admit that the government kills people. If the government murders people, why put them in charge of your health care, education, etc.

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 08:17 PM
You need the help, tbh. More than you know.

Pretty soon you'll end up on ignore just like Blake and Dumpster. You know, morons with no clue. I have no time to waste...
:lmao! You don't have time to waste yet, you'll spend just about every waking moment trying to convince an anonymous internet forum that the government is killing us?


...on closed minded hateful individuals. I guess there is not one false flag operation that our government does here on our soil or anywhere else? JFK Im sure you believe was done by Oswald and Oswald alone lol. I'm sure the lies to get us into the Vietnam War that Jesse Ventura talks about are not true huh? Even though they admitted it lol
It's looking more and more like the Cubans killed JFK and, I agree, we were lied to about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us into the Vietnam war.

None of that makes your stupid conspiracies about 9/11 and Aurora any less stupid.


Goodbye..
Adios.

Yonivore
07-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Don't get too offended by the govt bots brah they've been drinking the fluoride..
This conjured up a visual of Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels consoling each other in "Dumb and Dumber."

SA210
07-28-2012, 09:11 PM
you'll spend just about every waking moment trying to convince an anonymous internet forum that the government is killing us?

Well that's not true, in fact I spend a lot less time doing that on here. I'm too busy doing more important things in the world than to be on here every waking minute. I leave that to Dumpster.


It's looking more and more like the Cubans killed JFK and, I agree, we were lied to about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us into the Vietnam war.

None of that makes your stupid conspiracies about 9/11 and Aurora any less stupid.

It shows that the government obviously lies to us about major killings, death, war, etc. What makes you believe our government stopped lying?



Adios.

:toast

4chan
07-28-2012, 09:30 PM
everyone in this thread is a fat retarded neckbeard who has their mom make them sandwich triangles every day for lunch.

ChumpDumper
07-29-2012, 01:37 AM
If any of you conspiracy loons actually had a conspiracy theory to push, I'd read it.

None of you ever do.

SA210
07-30-2012, 11:48 AM
Colorado prosecutors have formally charged James Holmes with 24 counts of murder in the Aurora movie theater shooting. Holmes has also been charged with 116 counts of attempted murder - Associated Press

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COLORADO_SHOOTINGS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-07-30-12-24-15


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(http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COLORADO_SHOOTINGS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-07-30-12-24-15)

SA210
08-01-2012, 06:24 PM
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ChumpDumper
08-01-2012, 11:28 PM
God damn you have to be one stupid motherfucker to believe anything in that "report."

SA210
08-05-2012, 08:07 PM
hmm... dude says "4 white males in black clothing" killed these people, on this new shooting..

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SA210
08-05-2012, 08:58 PM
And this ...

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SA210
08-05-2012, 09:08 PM
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SA210
08-05-2012, 09:29 PM
"One gunman is down, there is 3 left"

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monosylab1k
08-06-2012, 12:14 PM
Yes it has, but these details get ignored because it's too scary for them to find out that their government and media lies to them and changes stories to this degree.

yzcE0V5jVJY

LOLOLOLOLOL are you fucking retarded?????

It's funny how in that video, the audio is perfectly synced......until there's a guy talking about another shooter and then suddenly what he's saying doesn't sync up FUCKING AT ALL. ROFL no, that doesn't look doctored one bit.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 12:59 PM
Can any of the conspiracy nuts explain why multiple shooters would indicate there was a government conspiracy?

Maybe it's just me, but when planning a conspiracy, wouldn't someone want to involve as few people as possible? Granted that's a conclusion one reaches by using logic, and someone who thinks Obama is conspiring to take away guns when gun sales have been at a record high during his presidency probably lacks logic, but it seems like Obama/whoever would only be creating a more difficult cover up for himself by involving multiple shooters in a conspiracy.

ChumpDumper
08-06-2012, 01:14 PM
If the people in the temple all say there were four gunmen, I'll believe it.

They don't all say that.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 01:20 PM
I still want to know the significance of 4 gunmen rather than one. No one has explained why that points to a government conspiracy. Generally, government conspiracies are meant to include as little people as possible, or maybe I'm just not a good conspiracy planner.

ChumpDumper
08-06-2012, 01:22 PM
It takes two guys to throw two tear-gas canisters, dummy. I can't believe you don't know that.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 01:24 PM
It takes two guys to throw two tear-gas canisters, dummy. I can't believe you don't know that.
My mistake. I must have been told by a drone that it only took one.


Ron bless.

ChumpDumper
08-06-2012, 01:25 PM
And yeah, obviously there were four gunmen in Oak Creek since they killed everyone in the shrine.

Errbody! No witnesses!

angrydude
08-06-2012, 02:05 PM
I still want to know the significance of 4 gunmen rather than one. No one has explained why that points to a government conspiracy. Generally, government conspiracies are meant to include as little people as possible, or maybe I'm just not a good conspiracy planner.

why do you only need a few people? the government keeps all sorts of secrets that lots of people in the government know about. The threat of going to prison and having your life ruined is a pretty powerful motivator to keep your mouth shut.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 02:13 PM
why do you only need a few people?
Why do you need more than a few people?

I never said anything about how many people are "needed." I said the government wouldn't include unnecessary people in a conspiracy that involved killing innocent Americans.


the government keeps all sorts of secrets that lots of people in the government know about. The threat of going to prison and having your life ruined is a pretty powerful motivator to keep your mouth shut.
Did you read my post? I said the involvement of more shooters would make a cover up more difficult. The threat of life without parole obviously didn't weigh on the minds of the shooter(s) when he/they decided to kill 7 people.

I'm surprised Alex Jones isn't in prison yet for exposing the countless government lies and conspiracies he's talked about.



Still waiting to hear why the presence of multiple shooters points to a government conspiracy.

boutons_deux
08-11-2012, 11:01 AM
Top Ten differences between White Terrorists and Others

1. White terrorists are called “gunmen.” What does that even mean? A person with a gun? Wouldn’t that be, like, everyone in the US? Other terrorists are called, like, “terrorists.”

2. White terrorists are “troubled loners.” Other terrorists are always suspected of being part of a global plot, even when they are obviously troubled loners.

3. Doing a study on the danger of white terrorists at the Department of Homeland Security will get you sidelined by angry white Congressmen. Doing studies on other kinds of terrorists is a guaranteed promotion.

4. The family of a white terrorist is interviewed, weeping as they wonder where he went wrong. The families of other terrorists are almost never interviewed.

5. White terrorists are part of a “fringe.” Other terrorists are apparently mainstream.

6. White terrorists are random events, like tornadoes. Other terrorists are long-running conspiracies.

7. White terrorists are never called “white.” But other terrorists are given ethnic affiliations.

8. Nobody thinks white terrorists are typical of white people. But other terrorists are considered paragons of their societies.

9. White terrorists are alcoholics, addicts or mentally ill. Other terrorists are apparently clean-living and perfectly sane.

10. There is nothing you can do about white terrorists. Gun control won’t stop them. No policy you could make, no government program, could possibly have an impact on them. But hundreds of billions of dollars must be spent on police and on the Department of Defense, and on TSA, which must virtually strip search 60 million people a year, to deal with other terrorists.

http://www.juancole.com/2012/08/top-ten-differences-between-white-terrorists-and-others.html

leemajors
08-16-2012, 11:27 AM
Dave Mustaine agrees :lol

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/bill-and-melinda-gates-fo_n_1783013.html

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-16-2012, 12:23 PM
Still waiting to hear why the presence of multiple shooters points to a government conspiracy.
:lol It's funny the tinfoil hat crew never got around to answering this question.

Galileo
08-30-2012, 07:12 PM
:lol It's funny the tinfoil hat crew never got around to answering this question.

it contradicts the official story, which points to guilty demeanor.

SA210
11-28-2012, 11:16 AM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/386565_308454829267964_1345543015_n.jpg

Drachen
11-28-2012, 11:19 AM
:LOL

Wouldn't the Warden have gone out and had a smoke with this guy, then had him shot while saying he was trying to escape?

ChumpDumper
11-28-2012, 11:27 AM
SA210 does the bidding of his meme overlords once again.

RandomGuy
11-28-2012, 01:10 PM
SA210 does the bidding of his meme overlords once again.

I swear someday I am going to make up the stupidest shit I can think of, then post it on a conspiracy website as the gospel truth and see how long it takes the morons there to spread it around.