This is Isn't Right but...

[Calispursfan11]

http://windycitizensports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/steve-nash-lakers.jpg

... if this is what it takes for this guy to finally get a ring, then so be it.

[mavs>spurs]

he probably still isn't winning a ring. okc poses a HUGE problem for them, who is going to stop westbrook? who will nash guard on that team? how effective will nash be on an old slow team and nobody to run with? there are way too many question marks for them. this is not 2006, nash is not the same player anymore.

[Calispursfan11]

he probably still isn't winning a ring. okc poses a HUGE problem for them, who is going to stop westbrook? who will nash guard on that team? how effective will nash be on an old slow team and nobody to run with? there are way too many question marks for them. this is not 2006, nash is not the same player anymore.

Nash has always been a defensive liability. I agree about the Westbrook issue. They are going to need a legit stopper, and I don't mean broken down, fatass World-Peace.

[mavs>spurs]

the nash signing actually doesn't even make sense for them outside of them not having an answer at pg and there being no one else on the market. nash is not a good fit in LA and only makes them marginally better. don't see them beating okc this go round either, and now they have even potentially dallas or SA they could also lose to.

[ElNono]

I think Nash addresses their poor 3 point shooting from role-players, but I also agree that in the big scheme of things, him being an improvement is very debatable.

[Calispursfan11]

the nash signing actually doesn't even make sense for them outside of them not having an answer at pg and there being no one else on the market. nash is not a good fit in LA and only makes them marginally better. don't see them beating okc this go round either, and now they have even potentially dallas or SA they could also lose to.

It all depends on Kobe tbh. He will need to let Nash run the show for the Nash signing to make sense. If Kobe can give up his constant domination of the ball somewhat, this team can contend with the likes of OKC and SA. It's not going to be showtime Suns ball, but if the Lakers can move toward that direction they will be good. The Mavs are also going to make this an interesting year. I see the West being as wild as ever and up for grabs yet again.

[mavs>spurs]

I think Nash addresses their poor 3 point shooting from role-players, but I also agree that in the big scheme of things, him being an improvement is very debatable.


if all nash is bringing to the table at this point is spot up 3 point shooting, then they're in a world of trouble because that won't offset his atrocious defense. when nash was one of the best playmakers this league has ever seen, (and he was younger and his defense wasn't quite as bad as it is today) it was easy to overlook. but in a system with nobody to run with, and a chucker who doesn't know how to move without the ball to pass to? nash will be largely ineffective.

[Calispursfan11]

I think Nash addresses their poor 3 point shooting from role-players, but I also agree that in the big scheme of things, him being an improvement is very debatable.

Nash has 2-3 good years left imho because his conditioning is excellent. He is one of the smartest players in the league and I think people will be surprised at how much better he can make the Lakers if they let him do his thing. Mike Brown is going to have to do some coaching too.

[Clipper Nation]

Nash is old, plays no defense, and will barely touch the ball thanks to Kobrick, tbh.... lateral move at best....

[mavs>spurs]

It all depends on Kobe tbh. He will need to let Nash run the show for the Nash signing to make sense. If Kobe can give up his constant domination of the ball somewhat, this team can contend with the likes of OKC and SA. It's not going to be showtime Suns ball, but if the Lakers can move toward that direction they will be good. The Mavs are also going to make this an interesting year. I see the West being as wild as ever and up for grabs yet again.

maybe it's just me, but i can't see kobe EVER actually doing what's best for the team. he showed that this year when he chucked for all time points status at an insane usage rate, losing games in the process.

[Calispursfan11]

maybe it's just me, but i can't see kobe EVER actually doing what's best for the team. he showed that this year when he chucked for all time points status at an insane usage rate, losing games in the process.

This has been the problem. The chucking is out of control.

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah.... Kobrick and Nash will NOT work well together tbh..... Kobrick will not share the glory with Nash, and will scapegoat Nash after losses.....

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't understand why people keep pointing out Nash's defensive flaws..sure, Nash is a terrible defensive player, but he isn't any worse than Sessions or Blake, tbh..Nash is probably a defensive upgrade over Sessions, tbh..

I agree that Nash's potential will be limited by Mike Brown's lack of a system or coaching ability, but Nash will still provide a significant upgrade..he's a great shooter that will compliment a team that has Kobe and Bynum drawing doubles(if Bynum works on his passing during the off-season)..also, Nash and Gasol will be able to play an effective pick and roll game when Kobe and/or Bynum are resting, particularly Kobe, it will allow him to play less minutes this season..

Sure, OKC is still the favorite, but this Laker team was 2 Kobe choke jobs away from being in the WCF, they aren't far from the Finals, Nash could be the difference..

[mavs>spurs]

that's the thing kobe doesn't want to play less minutes, he legitimately thinks he should be on the court at all times and wants to play big minutes so he can chuck and score more points.

[TE]

Nash looks like he's hitting 45+ in dat dere pic.

[HarlemHeat37]

that's the thing kobe doesn't want to play less minutes, he legitimately thinks he should be on the court at all times and wants to play big minutes so he can chuck and score more points.

I agree that Kobe(and Mike Brown) is a roadblock for the Lakers, but if he does accept his role(which he may not), they're a threat to make the Finals..

[mavs>spurs]

but if he does accept his role(which he may not), they're a threat to make the Finals..

the same could have been said the last 2 years. kobe just doesn't get it and the odds of him finally getting it now are slim.

[Banzai]

Yeah.... Kobrick and Nash will NOT work well together tbh..... Kobrick will not share the glory with Nash, and will scapegoat Nash after losses.....

I enjoy reading your shitty posts. Thanks!

[Calispursfan11]

I agree that Kobe(and Mike Brown) is a roadblock for the Lakers, but if he does accept his role(which he may not), they're a threat to make the Finals..

Mike Brown needs to get his potato-head out of his ass, reign a few large egos in, do his best Zen-Master shrink impression and they will be fine.

[Calispursfan11]

he probably still isn't winning a ring. okc poses a HUGE problem for them, who is going to stop westbrook? who will nash guard on that team? how effective will nash be on an old slow team and nobody to run with? there are way too many question marks for them. this is not 2006, nash is not the same player anymore.

So why is DPG so butthurt exactly? He seems like a decent guy, what gives?

[mavs>spurs]

dunno he's been going around talking about me and acting weird. he's mad that i was right about the spurs this year (he was wrong) and me and dok gave him shit for it.

[DMC]

They signed Nash to appease the star hungry crowd.

[Venti Quattro]

Lots of hate and speculation in this thread. Kobe and Nash are going to be fine.

[Calispursfan11]

dunno he's been going around talking about me and acting weird. he's mad that i was right about the spurs this year (he was wrong) and me and dok gave him shit for it.

Ok I get that, but "buttmad" ? Something has to have gone down brah for him to be walking around acting like that. Either that, or he's just competitive and takes it too seriously and wants to take you down.

[8FOR!3]

he probably still isn't winning a ring. okc poses a HUGE problem for them, who is going to stop westbrook? who will nash guard on that team? how effective will nash be on an old slow team and nobody to run with? there are way too many question marks for them. this is not 2006, nash is not the same player anymore.

1. Nobody
2. Derek Fisher

:lol

[Calispursfan11]

Lots of hate and speculation in this thread. Kobe and Nash are going to be fine.

It's true that we won't know what they look like on the Court together until we see a live game. It should be interesting. The defensive concerns are legit but I think overall, even if he doesn't mesh perfectly with Kobe, Nash puts the Lakers back in the conversation.

[mavs>spurs]

1. Nobody
2. Derek Fisher

:lol

derek fisher doesn't play significant enough minutes to hide nash all game. we're talking about a few minutes at best. nash would have to guard sefolosha or harden at all times pretty much. harden would light him up and sefolosha would get offensive rebounds over him and knock down shots while nash is roaming on defense trying to get steals as he does.

where nash will help them is looking good against bad and mediocre teams, but not against the heat, thunder, mavs, or spurs.

[pass1st]

derek fisher doesn't play significant enough minutes to hide nash all game. we're talking about a few minutes at best. nash would have to guard sefolosha or harden at all times pretty much. harden would light him up and sefolosha would get offensive rebounds over him and knock down shots while nash is roaming on defense trying to get steals as he does.

where nash will help them is looking good against bad and mediocre teams, but not against the heat, thunder, mavs, or spurs.

Nash will provide consistent uncontested shooting and bring down turnovers

Two things Lakers kinda need, sadly