HIV on the rise in Homosexual men

[Ginobilly]

Public Health
HIV Continues to Spread Among Gay Men, Studies Show
Even in countries that have made great gains in reducing the burden of AIDS, the epidemic is still growing among gay men
By Alice Park

As the world’s leading AIDS researchers gather for the International AIDS Conference in Washington, D.C., scientists report that despite gains in controlling the spread of HIV, the disease has continued to spread at an alarming rate in the very population in which it first appeared — gay men.

In a series of papers in the Lancet dedicated to the dynamics of HIV among gay men — a group epidemiologists define as men who have sex with men (MSM) — scientists say that the continued burden of AIDS in this group is due to a combination of lifestyle and biological factors that put these men at higher risk. Rates are rising in all countries around the world.

(MORE: Treatment as Prevention: How the New Way to Control HIV Came to Be)

In one study, led by Chris Beyrer, of the Center for Public Health and Human Rights at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, researchers analyzed surveillance reports and studies of HIV among MSM, including data that were part of routine United Nations reporting from member nations. Rates of HIV among gay men ranged from 3% in the Middle East to 25% in the Caribbean. In all reporting nations, rates were on the rise, even in developed nations like the U.S., Australia and the U.K. where HIV is declining overall.

In fact, says Beyrer, income does not seem to matter when it comes to HIV trends among MSM. In the U.S., for example, infection rates among gay men have been increasing by 8% each year since 2001, contributing to a 15% prevalence rate and putting the U.S. on par with countries like Thailand, Malaysia and some African and Caribbean nations where neither awareness of HIV/AIDS nor drug treatments are as widespread. HIV prevalence rates among MSM in Brazil, Canada, Italy and India range between 11% and 15%, while many western European countries have lower rates of around 6%.

Public health experts have been concerned about the rising rates among MSM for years now, viewing the current epidemic as the second wave — the first having occurred in the 1980s. Today’s infections, they say, are affecting a new generation of men who didn’t live through the initial devastation of AIDS’s early days, when there were no drug treatments and a diagnosis was a death sentence. Public health messages about safe sex practices and testing targeted to gay men have waned in the intervening years, and now, some experts say, a new generation of at-risk men have to be educated about the disease.

(MORE: How the Global War on Drugs Drives HIV and AIDS)

HIV has always been more common among gay men, but Beyrer and his colleagues say the traditional risk factors may not entirely explain the surge in many cases. Traditionally, HIV experts have pointed to high-risk behaviors such as unprotected sex, having multiple partners, injection drug use and drug use in general for making gay men more vulnerable to infection. But there may be biological reasons for the enhanced risk as well. For example, there is an 18 times greater risk of HIV transmission through anal sex than through vaginal sex, which may explain why the virus continues to thrive in gay men, despite the fact that they still receive the bulk of HIV awareness and treatment public-health messages. “If HIV infection in MSM is heavily biologically determined, do present approaches to HIV programming for MSM, which rely heavily on information, education and behavior change strategies, make sense?” the authors write. “The epidemiology suggests that urgent reform is needed.”

That’s why the latest data on using HIV treatments to protect healthy people from infection, a strategy known as pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), are of particular interest to public health experts. In another paper in the Lancet series, researchers estimate that about 25% of new infections among MSM might be avoided if prevention practices such as PrEP could be combined with existing strategies, such as safe sex counseling and condom use.

But the key to making these efforts work is in bringing the health care community on board. In another paper in the series, researchers document the fact that many health care providers aren’t trained or equipped to screen, treat or advise gay men about their HIV risk. In some countries, stigma about HIV continues to thwart physicians’ ability to provide adequate care to MSM at risk of infection. “Optimum clinical care for sexual and gender minorities is a fundamental human right, and the support of health care professionals is needed for its provision,” write the authors.

(MORE: Truvada: 5 Things to Know About the First Drug to Prevent HIV)

The series highlights both how far we have come in understanding and controlling HIV, and how, despite advances in drug therapy and social awareness, we’re still allowing HIV to get the best of us.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/20/hiv-continues-to-spread-among-gay-men-studies-show/?hpt=hp_bn16

[boutons_deux]

There's a new drug out in the last few days that can prevent many cases of HIV (at least that's how the very probably lying drug developer hypes it).

And it's only $13K/year.

[mavs>spurs]

punishment for sinning imo

[Ginobilly]

And now that Obama wants to legalize gay marriage, expect even more of a rise in STD's. They are going to have to start selling STD, over the counter tests at Walgreens/Wal-Mart because it seems like a lot more people will get infected.

[ElNono]

If you don't fuck homosexual men, what's your concern?

[Clipper Nation]

If you don't fuck homosexual men, what's your concern?

[Ginobilly]

punishment for sinning imo

I think it's natures way of saying that it's not biologically right to screw your fellow man in the rectum. I've said it before that anal sex destroys a lot of the elasticity of your rectal muscles. It damages the nerves inside due to all the friction caused by the penis. Even worse if the gay dude is hung. And not to mention your prostate getting jizzed by some dudes semen. Everybody knows the prostate gland is the one of the most sensitive glands in the male anatomy. Even worse that's very prone to infection and cancer if you mess around with it by constantly touching it. If it was a natural act, Doctors wouldn't advice gay men to use condoms when they have sex.

[mavs>spurs]

If you don't fuck homosexual men, what's your concern?

bisexual men fucking females and passing it to them

[boutons_deux]

"natures way of saying that it's not biologically right to screw your fellow man in the rectum"

IIRC, HIV was traced back to Africans eating diseased monkeys, not screwing monkeys.

[ElNono]

bisexual men fucking females and passing it to them

What's the rate of infection on bisexual men? Don't see it on the OP, tbh

Also, if you're fucking skank, you know better than not use rubber too...

[Ginobilly]

If you don't fuck homosexual men, what's your concern?

That they spread it to other people. Gays not only sleep with other gay men, they also give it to women, which in turn give it to straight men. I'm concerned that our taxes might go even higher because there will be more people with HIV that can't afford the high medical expenses, thus putting more of a burden on medicaid. I'm already sick and tired of paying for the welfare of single mothers who have a shitload of kids. I don't even have kids, but I support a great deal of them due to all the freakin taxes they take out of my check.

[ElNono]

Is Cirrhosis nature's way of saying people shouldn't drink? :rolleyes

[TE]

There's a new drug out in the last few days that can prevent many cases of HIV (at least that's how the very probably lying drug developer hypes it).

And it's only $13K/year.

What drug are you talking about?

[mavs>spurs]

What drug are you talking about?

that new drug in the media they keep talking about saying it can "lower the risk of spreading infection to your partner."

why anyone would knowingly be fucking anyone with HIV is beyond me. and the people who are fucking someone with HIV without knowing it aren't likely to randomly go out and get something expensive that they don't know they need.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444330904577535500462542284.html

[TE]

that new drug in the media they keep talking about saying it can "lower the risk of spreading infection to your partner."

why anyone would knowingly be fucking anyone with HIV is beyond me. and the people who are fucking someone with HIV without knowing it aren't likely to randomly go out and get something expensive that they don't know they need.

I haven't been keeping up with the media lately tbh...other than the Aurora shooting of course.


I think you all are talking about Truvada. I don't know much about it but I'll probably read up on it a bit right now.

[Ginobilly]

Is Cirrhosis nature's way of saying people shouldn't drink? :rolleyes

cirrhosis happens when you drink more than you should. Maybe gay men should quit sexual intimacy altogether, and should just stick to a platonic relationship with other men that only involves hugs and kisses.

[ElNono]

That they spread it to other people. Gays not only sleep with other gay men, they also give it to women, which in turn give it to straight men. I'm concerned that our taxes might go even higher because there will be more people with HIV that can't afford the high medical expenses, thus putting more of a burden on medicaid. I'm already sick and tired of paying for the welfare of single mothers who have a shitload of kids. I don't even have kids, but I support a great deal of them due to all the freakin taxes they take out of my check.

That's a terrible strawmen you built there. Is HIV on the rise on straight men?

How many single mothers do you support through your individual taxes?

More importantly, what's your solution? Do we kill all gay man and install eugenics, a la Wild Cobra?

If you're sick and tired of the good ol' USA, then leave for bigot paradise, wherever that might be, and live a happy life there. Nobody is forcing you to stay here.

[Wild Cobra]

If you don't fuck homosexual men, what's your concern?
The rising costs of health care that we tax payers will pay more of.

[ElNono]

cirrhosis happens when you drink more than you should. Maybe gay men should quit sexual intimacy altogether, and should just stick to a platonic relationship with other men that only involves hugs and kisses.

People fuck, and that's nature. Maybe you need to make a point that's grounded in reality.

[ElNono]

The rising costs of health care that we tax payers will pay more of.

How much more are we going to pay, counselor?

[Wild Cobra]

How much more are we going to pay, counselor?
Anything more is more. Please don't tell me you only believe something if a number is attached.

[ElNono]

Anyways, gotta go... please carry on with the ignoramus fear mongering :tu

[mavs>spurs]

crofl crofl "what's the big deal?" "how much more are we going to pay?"

sup chump, nice rhetorical devices you got there

no worries, we'll just charge it all to the national credit card! a few illegals? oh that only costs a little. oh a couple wars? etc

you liberal bastards want to destroy this country but get ready for a fight, me and others are going to give you everything we got. i'm loaded for bear and i'm fuckin pissed. i won't rest until we get this shit turned around, even if i have to jump into politics myself.

[Ginobilly]

That's a terrible strawmen you built there. Is HIV on the rise on straight men?

How many single mothers do you support through your individual taxes?

More importantly, what's your solution? Do we kill all gay man and install eugenics, a la Wild Cobra?

If you're sick and tired of the good ol' USA, then leave for bigot paradise, wherever that might be, and live a happy life there. Nobody is forcing you to stay here.


It is on rise in straight women and men.

My solution is better education in public schools on human sexuality and consequences of it.

My family founded San Antonio and built the muhfuckin Alamo. We've been living here since the 1600's. I have coahuiltecan/Lipan Apache blood running through my veins(although minimal). I have more of a right to be here than you do.

[mavs>spurs]

It is on rise in straight women and men.

My solution is better education in public schools on human sexuality and consequences of it.

My family founded San Antonio and built the muhfuckin Alamo. We've been living here since the 1600's. I have coahuiltecan/Lipan Apache blood running through my veins(although minimal). I have more of a right to be here than you do.

that's the thinking of these new age immigrants. they come here, get hooked up usually with entitlements, and join the left. then they have the audacity to tell the natives, "if you don't like the new america, then leave!"

bullshit, this is OUR fucking country. we do not want your new liberal utopia, piss off.

[Ginobilly]

that's the thinking of these new age immigrants. they come here, get hooked up usually with entitlements, and join the left. then they have the audacity to tell the natives, "if you don't like the new america, then leave!"

bullshit, this is OUR fucking country. we do not want your new liberal utopia, piss off.

I don't like a lot of the new age immigrants. They have not really added anything of cultural value to this country except more problems. It pisses me off when people try to change the cultural landscape of a nation. Nobody is condemning gays to death. We just want them to be more respectful and considerate that what they do could result in the death of innocent person. And the burdens that it brings to taxpayers. It simply isn't fair to the hardworking American people who have to pay for the bill. Politicians don't pay shit. That's why Obama says what he wants because he's not doing the backbreaking work that keeps America going.

[Creepn]

It is on rise in straight women and men.

My solution is better education in public schools on human sexuality and consequences of it.

My family founded San Antonio and built the muhfuckin Alamo. We've been living here since the 1600's. I have coahuiltecan/Lipan Apache blood running through my veins(although minimal). I have more of a right to be here than you do.

Well then what goes around comes around. Your family that "founded" San Antonio didn't want to respect Mexican laws and traditions. Then what what happened? You guys waged a war on your own and started killing mexicans. Now you wanna cry about immigrants not following your views :cry

[mavs>spurs]

Well then what goes around comes around. Your family that "founded" San Antonio didn't want to respect Mexican laws and traditions. Then what what happened? You guys waged a war on your own and started killing mexicans. Now you wanna cry about immigrants not following your views :cry

as an african american you should be particular concerned about the spread of HIV. your particular demographic is particularly at risk. all that other stuff is outside the scope of this thread and shouldn't be nearly as important.

[Creepn]

They are at risk. The dumbasses in the ghettos don't want to wear condoms.

[mavs>spurs]

can you blame em? they've been circumcised and it doesn't feel good with a condom that further dulls sensation.

[Edward]

dull sensation beats the hell out of getting HIV

[mavs>spurs]

dull sensation beats the hell out of getting HIV

agreed.

[Creepn]

So banning circumcision will reduce HivAids? Hmmmm.

[mavs>spurs]

yes. they push the myth that "if person A and person B both fuck an infected person, and person A is circumcised, then they are .000001% less likely to contract the disease" while ignoring the fact that people who are circumcised are much less likely to want to use a condom. the only real protection is condoms.

[Ginobilly]

Well then what goes around comes around. Your family that "founded" San Antonio didn't want to respect Mexican laws and traditions. Then what what happened? You guys waged a war on your own and started killing mexicans. Now you wanna cry about immigrants not following your views :cry

We kissed and made up. People change you know. I'm not going to say that my family were saints. They sinned just like any other Euro family that came here and stole the resources from the natives. You ain't any better dawg.

It's not about following anybody's views. People are free to do what they want. You can't stop that. But you also have to allude to mans laws on Earth. You don't like it. Your free to start a revolution anytime you like. Walmart and bass pro shops sell a shitload of guns. My family sided with the Americans in the battle of Texas because my great Spanish grandfather married an American of German heritage. The battle of Texas(sad but ture) was a battle of brother against brother/cousin against cousin/ father against son.

[Creepn]

We kissed and made up. People change you know. I'm not going to say that my family were saints. They sinned just like any other Euro family that came here and stole the resources from the natives. You ain't any better dawg.

It's not about following anybody's views. People are free to do what they want. You can't stop that. But you also have to allude to mans laws on Earth. You don't like it. Your free to start a revolution anytime you like. Walmart and bass pro shops sell a shitload of guns. My family sided with the Americans in the battle of Texas because my great Spanish grandfather married an American of German heritage. The battle of Texas(sad but ture) was a battle of brother against brother/cousin against cousin/ father against son.

The revolution already started! It's not the kind of revolution of war though. It is a war of culture and from what I've seen so far, they got Texas big cities on lock.

[Ginobilly]

yes. they push the myth that "if person A and person B both fuck an infected person, and person A is circumcised, then they are .000001% less likely to contract the disease" while ignoring the fact that people who are circumcised are much less likely to want to use a condom. the only real protection is condoms.

That's why I only have unprotected sex with my fiancee that I've known for years. It's scarey that kids nowadays consider sex like it's no big deal and brush it off when you mention STD's. They just don't want to hear it.

[Creepn]

Wanna win the war against mexico? Start reproducing more and stop moving north every time they become a majority.

[Ginobilly]

The revolution already started! It's not the kind of revolution of war though. It is a war of culture and from what I've seen so far, they got Texas big cities on lock.

I wouldn't say they have them on lock. But a lot of liberals that are moving from New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco to Texas are pissing off a lot of Christian religious redneck nutcases in Texas:lmao It's kinda funny seeing both sides fight a cultural battle that nobody is going to win:lmao Their churches will still stand and the definition of marriage will change. And gays will keep on fucking no matter what. It's a cultural battle that nobody really wins imo.

[mavs>spurs]

Wanna win the war against mexico? Start reproducing more and stop moving north every time they become a majority.

or just enforce our current laws

[Ginobilly]

Wanna win the war against mexico? Start reproducing more and stop moving north every time they become a majority.

The majority of Mexican immigrants are of Native/mestizo decent. There just taking back North America, and I don't blame them. They have endured enough pain already by the white man. And it don't matter if the white man is Mexican or American. It's all the same to them.

You'll do know that the Aztecs(mexicans) came from Arizona/New Mexico region. There just going back to their homeland. Nothing to see here.

[Creepn]

The majority of Mexican immigrants are of Native/mestizo decent. There just taking back North America, and I don't blame them. They have endured enough pain already by the white man. And it don't matter if the white man is Mexican or American. It's all the same to them.

You'll do know that the Aztecs(mexicans) came from Arizona/New Mexico region. There just going back to their homeland. Nothing to see here.

White flag?

[baseline bum]

That they spread it to other people. Gays not only sleep with other gay men, they also give it to women, which in turn give it to straight men. I'm concerned that our taxes might go even higher because there will be more people with HIV that can't afford the high medical expenses, thus putting more of a burden on medicaid. I'm already sick and tired of paying for the welfare of single mothers who have a shitload of kids. I don't even have kids, but I support a great deal of them due to all the freakin taxes they take out of my check.

Possibly the best move to lower the number of gays is to be more tolerant as a society so the buttfucked aren't pressured into sham marriages where they have gay kids tbh.

[baseline bum]

They are at risk. The dumbasses in the jails don't wear condoms.

fify

[mavs>spurs]

Possibly the best move to lower the number of gays is to be more tolerant as a society so the buttfucked aren't pressured into sham marriages where they have gay kids tbh.

that's not true because although i'm straight, i don't want to get married and never will and i don't feel any pressure to.

[Ginobilly]

Possibly the best move to lower the number of gays is to be more tolerant as a society so the buttfucked aren't pressured into sham marriages where they have gay kids tbh.

That what a lot of ST posters have been saying for years. But they just get labeled racist, bigots without any foundation. So your saying gays carry a gene that they could pass on?

[Ginobilly]

that's not true because although i'm straight, i don't want to get married and never will and i don't feel any pressure to.

Marriage sucks anyways. I'm already living with my girl for years, it's like practically we're married. Why do they want a stupid piece of paper that says your married? fuck civil and religious marriage. It's all a fuckin scam if you ask me.

[Creepn]

that's not true because although i'm straight, i don't want to get married and never will and i don't feel any pressure to.

I think you'll get married one day. You say that now because you are young and in the presence of women like campuses or whatever.

[Creepn]

I do feel that marriage seem to goes against our nature but marriage also benefits our nature at the same time. For example, married people live longer than single people right?

[mavs>spurs]

I do feel that marriage seem to goes against our nature but marriage also benefits our nature at the same time. For example, married people live longer than single people right?

supposedly, but they've never done studies on people like me who plan to constantly be surrounded by female friends with benefits and have several girlfriends, i think the effect would be the same.

[Creepn]

So you gonna deal with heartbreak and drama the rest of your life? Yeah that's a real stress reliever.

[PublicOption]

.....in other news, gay people keep pretending they are normal....more at 11.

[Trainwreck2100]

supposedly, but they've never done studies on people like me who plan to constantly be surrounded by female friends with benefits and have several girlfriends, i think the effect would be the same.

unless one of those girls fucks a homo, then you get AIDS

[ElNono]

Anything more is more. Please don't tell me you only believe something if a number is attached.

I want a ballpark figure so we can get an idea if it warrants government intervention, as the OP is suggesting...

[ElNono]

crofl crofl "what's the big deal?" "how much more are we going to pay?"

sup chump, nice rhetorical devices you got there

no worries, we'll just charge it all to the national credit card! a few illegals? oh that only costs a little. oh a couple wars? etc

you liberal bastards want to destroy this country but get ready for a fight, me and others are going to give you everything we got. i'm loaded for bear and i'm fuckin pissed. i won't rest until we get this shit turned around, even if i have to jump into politics myself.

What you gonna do about it? Listen to Alex Jones, post in Spurstalk and try to dig up my real name to sound mysterious? :lmao

[ElNono]

It is on rise in straight women and men.

My solution is better education in public schools on human sexuality and consequences of it.

My family founded San Antonio and built the muhfuckin Alamo. We've been living here since the 1600's. I have coahuiltecan/Lipan Apache blood running through my veins(although minimal). I have more of a right to be here than you do.

What education is that? "God hates faggots and they're all going to hell"? :lol

How does outlawing gay marriage prevents men buttfucking?

Nobody gives a shit if you're a direct descendent of George Washington. You have no more rights in this country than any other citizen.

[Ginobilly]

What education is that? "God hates faggots and they're all going to hell"? :lol

How about double wrap your little chorizo?

How does outlawing gay marriage prevents men buttfucking?

Nobody said that it doesn't and nobody is outlawing nothing. You could marry whoever the heck you want.



Nobody gives a shit if you're a direct descendent of George Washington. You have no more rights in this country than any other citizen.

I'm not asking if people give a shit. I just find it comical that gay posters are calling everybody bigots and racists, when it's them that are not tolerant of other people views also. It has to work both ways. I tolerate gay people and even support that they should have a union of some kind in every state. But they have to take responsibility for their actions. It's not fair for hardworking Americans to pick up the bill on medicaid. And that goes for single mothers too that take advantage of our generous system that will soon crumble.

[ElNono]

I'm not asking if people give a shit. I just find it comical that gay posters are calling everybody bigots and racists, when it's them that are not tolerant of other people views also.

What gay posters? :lol

You started this thread with a giant strawmen and it came down in pieces. Tolerance has nothing to do with it.


It has to work both ways. I tolerate gay people and even support that they should have a union of some kind in every state. But they have to take responsibility for their actions. It's not fair for hardworking Americans to pick up the bill on medicaid. And that goes for single mothers too that take advantage of our generous system that will soon crumble.

You keep going with the strawmen... :lol

How does outlawing same-sex marriage prevents teh gays from buttfucking eachother, spreading AIDS or reducing your taxes?

lol bold

[Edward]

What you gonna do about it? Listen to Alex Jones, post in Spurstalk and try to dig up my real name to sound mysterious? :lmao
:lmao

[symple19]

hooray for ignorance!

say it with me Ginobilly!

hip, hip.....

[symple19]

double

[Trainwreck2100]

Hip hip double?

[symple19]

Hip hip double?

double post

[mavs>spurs]

What you gonna do about it?

Get involved politically and help restore the public.

[Ginobilly]

What gay posters? :lol

You started this thread with a giant strawmen and it came down in pieces. Tolerance has nothing to do with it.



You keep going with the strawmen... :lol

How does outlawing same-sex marriage prevents teh gays from buttfucking eachother, spreading AIDS or reducing your taxes?

lol bold

lol, you gay people are funny :lol worrying about bold letters.:lmao
make people responsible for their STD's and make them pay out of their own pocket. This has nothing to do with marriage. It has everything to do with sexual responsibility in straight and gay people.

You know that you provide comic relief for everybody?

[Trainwreck2100]

double post

it's not my fault you closed your first post with an ellipse

[Edward]

Get involved politically and help restore the public.
Are you gonna help spread George Orwell's anti-liberal message in 1984?

[mavs>spurs]

nah i'm gonna lobby for total gun confiscation and population control like you faggot

and yes guys, i mean that literally. dok wants to totally take away the 2nd amendment and kill innocent minorities and "dead weight" in his own words.

[Edward]

nah i'm gonna lobby for total gun confiscation and population control like you faggot
cool.

I'm glad I've got someone else to help with the movement.

[symple19]

it's not my fault you closed your first post with an ellipse

no it's not, and I understand the confusion

[mavs>spurs]

these are the people you're siding with when you vote democrat people. wake up

[Edward]

People who don't like guns and recognize how unsustainable mankind's existence is at the rate our population is increasing?

[mavs>spurs]

the 2nd amendment is crucial to what it means to be american. you can't be against the constitution and bill of rights without being anti american. and you actually said that you wanted to kill people, and that you didn't care that we killed 50,000 "towelheads" as you put it in Libya. You regularly scoff and laugh at people dying, you're a bad person.

[jack sommerset]

It's natures way of saying men shouldn't do men. God bless

[Edward]

you're a bad person.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

You're a big meanie, DoK!

[Edward]

It's natures way of saying men shouldn't do men. God bless
God bless you, jack.

[mavs>spurs]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

You're a big meanie, DoK!

wishing death on innocent human beings is evil man. you need God in your life obviously.

[Trainwreck2100]

People who don't like guns and recognize how unsustainable mankind's existence is at the rate our population is increasing?

the problem isn't how many people are breeding but who is breeding. The smart people know to have less kids, and later in life, so we have less smart offspring and more morons having children.

[Edward]

wishing death on innocent human beings is evil man. you need God in your life obviously.
:lol who did I wish death on?

lol somehow bringing it back to :cryGod:cry

[Edward]

the problem isn't how many people are breeding but who is breeding. The smart people know to have less kids, and later in life, so we have less smart offspring and more morons having children.
This couldn't be more true, but regardless of the fact stupid people have a lot more kids, this planet isn't capable of supporting a 7+ billion population.

God bless.

[mavs>spurs]

i find it ultra hilarious that you campaign so hard for gay people to have the right to fuck eachother in the butt, but you don't believe in the right to life for innocent people. your values are in disarray, face it brah the only reason you're a democrat is because your daddeh ran for congress that time and has similar radical views so you copied him.

don't act like you dont jump for joy every time people die so that it leaves a little more space and resources for you. you take joy in others dying and have wished for mass death on large groups of people in the name of "population control."

you're not just for limiting growth, you actually want to speed up the process through killing.

[Edward]

:lol randomly bringing up my daddeh
:lol thinking my daddeh has the same population control views that I have
:lol incapable of arguing without ad-hominem attacks
:lol ignoring the fact scientists have been warning us for years about unsustainable population growth

God bless.

[mavs>spurs]

i'm not ignoring that. you know my views on the subject because we've talked about it. where i disagree with you is that i don't take joy in mass killings just because the people are a certain race and it helps out population control, nor would i be for a mass extermination like you would. if you were president, you'd try to exterminate all the arabs just like hitler tried to do your people because you're a hypocrite and an asshole.

btw, the smileys don't make you any less of a hypocritical little bitch ":lol"

[ElNono]

Get involved politically and help restore the public.

If that's the case, I'm not the enemy...

[Edward]

:lol putting words in mouth
:lol turning the fact I don't care into saying I take joy
:lol pretending I'm anti-Islam or anti-Arab
:lol going from ad-hominem arguments to strawman arguments

[ElNono]

lol, you gay people are funny :lol worrying about bold letters.:lmao

lol, you religious zealots are funny... obsessing about teh gays :lmao


make people responsible for their STD's and make them pay out of their own pocket. This has nothing to do with marriage. It has everything to do with sexual responsibility in straight and gay people.

lol keeps going with strawman, still dodging the question...

How does outlawing same-sex marriage prevents teh gays from buttfucking eachother, spreading AIDS or reducing your taxes?


You know that you provide comic relief for everybody?

lol :cry my family is half indian :cry
lol tolerance
lol bold

[mavs>spurs]

just remember dok, whenever you get your fascist state, jews are usually the first to go in those

[ElNono]

I like it how religious people are the authority on interpreting "nature's actions and messages"... :lol

[Edward]

just remember dok, whenever you get your fascist state, jews are usually the first to go in those
That's telling me.

[Edward]

Crap I almost forgot.


God bless.

[ElNono]

tbh, not surprised Washington DC has one of the largest AIDS infection rates in the country (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/health/policy/washington-dc-tests-for-aids-in-stores-streets-and-offices.html?hp), seeing how they constantly fuck everybody in the ass...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Eugenics will solve all our problems

[Ginobilly]

lol, you religious zealots are funny... obsessing about teh gays :lmao

You religious fags are funny...obsessing about what teh straights think about gay marriage lifestyle. you should man the fuck up and fight for your right to marry. Instead of crying about it on a basketball forum.



lol keeps going with strawman, still dodging the question...

How does outlawing same-sex marriage prevents teh gays from buttfucking eachother, spreading AIDS or reducing your taxes?

I never said that outlawing same-sex prevents gays from having sex, spreading aids and reducing taxes. I said if they get better sex-ed in public schools, you might see a reduction in teen pregnancy and STD's among young adults.



lol :cry my family is half indian :cry
I'm glad you support the genocide of Indians. Talk about contradicting yourself about human rights.

lol tolerance
You need to get out more and realize that the world doesn't revolve on your opinions.


lol bold
So ignorant and naive....Don't worry dawg, I'm pretty sure you'll meet the guy of your dreams in the future. You just need to get out more and be a man for once in your life. And your eyes will open up, you'll see.

[baseline bum]

Weren't the Coahuiltecans so poor they picked stuff out of their own shit to eat? The honkies did them a favor with the genocide tbh.

[ElNono]

You religious fags are funny...obsessing about what teh straights think about gay marriage lifestyle. you should man the fuck up and fight for your right to marry. Instead of crying about it on a basketball forum.

:lol who started this thread? What's it about?

BTW, I'm a married heterosexual.


I never said that outlawing same-sex prevents gays from having sex, spreading aids and reducing taxes. I said if they get better sex-ed in public schools, you might see a reduction in teen pregnancy and STD's among young adults.

But you did say it:


And now that Obama wants to legalize gay marriage, expect even more of a rise in STD's.

lol ignorant
lol tolerant


I'm glad you support the genocide of Indians. Talk about contradicting yourself about human rights.

:lol This isn't about human rights. This is about your stupid inbred ignorant ass.


You need to get out more and realize that the world doesn't revolve on your opinions.

But it does revolve on your opinions? :lmao


So ignorant and naive....Don't worry dawg, I'm pretty sure you'll meet the guy of your dreams in the future. You just need to get out more and be a man for once in your life. And your eyes will open up, you'll see.

Would be difficult, seeing you seem to have the market on faggotry all cornered up.

but it's nature's way! we'll teach those homos to stop being ghey!

lol calling anybody ignorant

[baseline bum]

The faggotry likely started in Texas with Ginobilly's Coahuiltecan ancestors looking up each others' asses for food tbh.


THE COAHUILTECANS
inhabited the inland brush country in south Texas - between San Antonio River and the Mexico border - an arid rocky semi-desert plain with thorny shrubs, mesquite trees and cacti. The famous Spaniard Cabeza de Vaca lived with the Coahuiltecans for eight years from 1538.

Of all Texas natives the Coahuiltecans lived the harshest, most difficult life. They led a roving life, starved in winter, and there seems to be very little they failed to eat that could be eaten. Large animals were scarce - there were occasional deer, antelope, javelina pigs - plus rabbits, rodents, reptiles, birds and bugs. Some tribes had access to pecans, some mesquite beans, others fish. "Few living creatures were overlooked as source of food .... spiders, ant eggs, worms, lizards, snakes (incl. rattle snakes), earth, rotten wood, deer dung. Second harvest ... removing seeds and the like from human feces, grinding them up, roasting and eating them." "Fish were ... set aside for eight days .... until larvae and other insects had developed in the rotting flesh ... then consumed as an epicure's delight, as also the remaining flesh."

The principal food was vegetables: agave bulbs, mountain laurel beans, peyote cactus, prickly pears, mesquite beans. Wars between Coahuiltecan peoples were common, dead captives were often roasted and eaten (ceremoniously), powdered bones from own tribe members were eaten (with hallucination-inducing peyote). Tools were made from wood and flint.

[ElNono]

Now we just need Crookshanks to walk in and remind us how the repeal of don't ask don't tell destroyed the US military... :lol

[TE]

The faggotry likely started in Texas with Ginobilly's Coahuiltecan ancestors looking up each others' asses for food tbh.

:lol

[ElNono]

The faggotry likely started in Texas with Ginobilly's Coahuiltecan ancestors looking up each others' asses for food tbh.

:lmao

[Ginobilly]

The faggotry likely started in Texas with Ginobilly's Coahuiltecan ancestors looking up each others' asses for food tbh.

:depressed Now I'm really going to kill myself:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Whole lot of stupid in this thread.

[Ginobilly]

:lol who started this thread? What's it about?

BTW, I'm a married heterosexual.

The way you speak and judging by your post count. You don't sound like a married heterosexual.

But you did say it:



lol ignorant
lol tolerant



:lol This isn't about human rights. This is about your stupid inbred ignorant ass.

How I'm I ignorant??



But it does revolve on your opinions? :lmao

nothing revolves around the opinions of what men think.



Would be difficult, seeing you seem to have the market on faggotry all cornered up.

but it's nature's way! we'll teach those homos to stop being ghey!

lol calling anybody ignorant

I never said none of that. I only post in this screen name.

Everybody is ignorant. Myself included. Your ignorant just like everybody else is.

[Ginobilly]

The faggotry likely started in Texas with Ginobilly's Coahuiltecan ancestors looking up each others' asses for food tbh.

:lmao Are you sure they weren't looking the prostate gland?

[Agloco]

punishment for sinning imo


I think it's natures way of saying that it's not biologically right to screw your fellow man in the rectum.

Both of you doofuses do realize that men and women may pass this back and forth as well, right? What is nature saying when that happens?


Whole lot of stupid in this thread.

Indeed.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i find it ultra hilarious that you campaign so hard for gay people to have the right to fuck eachother in the butt, but you don't believe in the right to life for innocent people. your values are in disarray, face it brah the only reason you're a democrat is because your daddeh ran for congress that time and has similar radical views so you copied him.

don't act like you dont jump for joy every time people die so that it leaves a little more space and resources for you. you take joy in others dying and have wished for mass death on large groups of people in the name of "population control."

you're not just for limiting growth, you actually want to speed up the process through killing.

Buttfucking doesn't cause procreation. I fail to see how the two notions contradict. Your problem is that you find you values from fantasy land.

OTOH if you look to actual outcomes what is more harmful: gay men fucking and an unquantified amount of them getting a disease or instead the population of the world doubling every 70 years?

Whats going to cause more misery for me? Which is going to cause more misery for us all?

And 'nature's way of saying' is about the about as hokey as it gets. Why don't you just attribute it to you Christian fantasy god and get it over with. Go watch some 700 Club or something.

[Ginobilly]

Both of you doofuses do realize that men and women may pass this back and forth as well, right? What is nature saying when that happens?



Indeed.

Yes I do know that pendeja. That's why it's also wrong to screw your fellow girl in the ass also. Especially is you have a big dick. Anything going up your culo is only going to cause problems health problems. There's no way around it. Contraception only does so much. The safest way to stay protected is through abstinence or just stick to fucking to one chick vaginally. And to always wear a condom if you really need to have anal sex.

The herpes monster will come and get you if you don't:lmao

[Ginobilly]

I hope that our society's moral fabric decays even more. Fuck it, lets all get aids and fuck one another. we are all gonna die somebody. Lets just go out with a bang and make it gangbang fuckfest. Sasha Grey style:hat Why do we even follow morals? I hope it gets to anarchy and survival of the fittest again. Fuck life, fuck religion, fuck fags and straight people alike, fuck evolution, fuck science, fuck theology, fuck education. We're all evil pieces of shit in the end! ST is proof of that:lmao

[oh crap]

Whole lot of stupid in this thread.

[ElNono]

but this is about taxes! crofl

[jack sommerset]

I thought some of you would find this interesting. One of the arguement over the years in here (funtcucking especially) is you are born this way. In this study only one out of 10 homosexuals felt they were born gay. God bless



http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html


homosexuality (1940s and 1970)

early homosexual experience(s) with adults and/or peers - 22%
homosexual friends/ around homosexuals a lot - 16%
poor relationship with mother - 15%
unusual development (was a sissy, artistic, couldn't get along with own sex, tom-boy, et cetera) - 15%
poor relationship with father - 14%
heterosexual partners unavailable - 12%
social ineptitude - 9%
born that way - 9%

[leemajors]

Lol bible believers.com :lmao

[jag]

i find it ultra hilarious that you campaign so hard for gay people to have the right to fuck eachother in the butt,

:lmao

[Blake]

I thought some of you would find this interesting. One of the arguement over the years in here (funtcucking especially) is you are born this way. In this study only one out of 10 homosexuals felt they were born gay. God bless



http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html


homosexuality (1940s and 1970)

early homosexual experience(s) with adults and/or peers - 22%
homosexual friends/ around homosexuals a lot - 16%
poor relationship with mother - 15%
unusual development (was a sissy, artistic, couldn't get along with own sex, tom-boy, et cetera) - 15%
poor relationship with father - 14%
heterosexual partners unavailable - 12%
social ineptitude - 9%
born that way - 9%

Hard to read with sentences in there such as this:

”This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules. ”

[Edward]

Lol bible believers.com :lmao
:lmao

[Agloco]

Yes I do know that pendeja. That's why it's also wrong to screw your fellow girl in the ass also. And to always wear a condom if you really need to have anal sex.

:cry

Keep thumping that bible.

[Agloco]

I hope that our society's moral fabric decays even more. Fuck it, lets all get aids and fuck one another. we are all gonna die somebody. Lets just go out with a bang and make it gangbang fuckfest. Sasha Grey style:hat Why do we even follow morals? I hope it gets to anarchy and survival of the fittest again. Fuck life, fuck religion, fuck fags and straight people alike, fuck evolution, fuck science, fuck theology, fuck education. We're all evil pieces of shit in the end! ST is proof of that:lmao

Alternatively, we could simply toss you into the nearest ravine and call it a day.

[Capt Bringdown]

I think it's natures way of saying that it's not biologically right to screw your fellow man in the rectum. I've said it before that anal sex destroys a lot of the elasticity of your rectal muscles. It damages the nerves inside due to all the friction caused by the penis. Even worse if the gay dude is hung. And not to mention your prostate getting jizzed by some dudes semen. Everybody knows the prostate gland is the one of the most sensitive glands in the male anatomy. Even worse that's very prone to infection and cancer if you mess around with it by constantly touching it. If it was a natural act, Doctors wouldn't advice gay men to use condoms when they have sex.

Closet queen for sure.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I thought some of you would find this interesting. One of the arguement over the years in here (funtcucking especially) is you are born this way. In this study only one out of 10 homosexuals felt they were born gay. God bless



http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html


homosexuality (1940s and 1970)

early homosexual experience(s) with adults and/or peers - 22%
homosexual friends/ around homosexuals a lot - 16%
poor relationship with mother - 15%
unusual development (was a sissy, artistic, couldn't get along with own sex, tom-boy, et cetera) - 15%
poor relationship with father - 14%
heterosexual partners unavailable - 12%
social ineptitude - 9%
born that way - 9%

The mistake is thinking that it's an on/off button. Just like it's a mistake thinking that things are either good or evil. 'Purpose' is just an excuse for taking the dumbed down version to be absolutely true.

[Jacob1983]

http://www.basketball-memes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/rudy-gay-meme.jpg