Magic hope to end Dwightmare by early August

[djohn2oo8]

Sam Amick



Before I duck out again, a Dwight Howard note: the Magic, I'm told, are hopeful that they can pull the trigger on a deal by early August (although I certainly couldn't tell you which one it might be). That being said, new GM Rob Hennigan - who I had the pleasure of meeting for the first time in Vegas - is proving to be very prudent in this process, meaning those hopes won't be realized if the deal simply isn't up to his standard's. The Magic's coaching search continues, too, and I'd be surprised at this point if the job doesn't ultimately go to San Antonio's Jacque Vaughn (though that's informed opinion, not reporting any imminent hiring).
about an hour ago
http://sulia.com/channel/basketball/f/f18e2272-8f07-421f-a1a8-8743ea5cdb2d/?source=twitter-

[pass1st]

they may pull the trigger, but the chamber will be empty

[Koolaid_Man]

they may pull the trigger, but the chamber will be empty


:lmao so true...that little dip-shit Hennigen lucked out and had a little success in OKC now he thinks he's a spitting image of Ocean's 11 casino owner Reuben Tishkoff...:lol

Dude can posture all he wants but he has to understand this isn't OKC....the model is broken the deck of cards have been reshuffled and he doesn't have many options...

:lmao@tryin to build a legacy

[djohn2oo8]

Dude has been money so far...



Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@Original_Gio: @Lakerholicz like we thought, D12 wont be w/Magic come camp- @TonyMejiaNBA" Houston or LA. Rockets facilitate either way.


Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
People underestimate Rockets desire to turn Kevin Martin's expiring into major piece. Lakers prefer DH to Bynum. Best Magic deal comes soon.

[Koolaid_Man]

Dude has been money so far...

How?

Ray Charles could see the Nets deal was no good. They're basically going to get what's offered or let him walk.

The Lakers will only offer one piece....he can take the Rockets future low round draft picks but don't sell me on it was the best deal...the best deal for them is to let Dwight walk and then tank the next few yrs to get high picks or let the Cavs facilitate a 3 way with the Lakers giving Orlando the high picks they covet..but to date Hennigan has done nothing in Orlando to garner whispers that he's a great GM.

[djohn2oo8]

How?

Ray Charles could see the Nets deal was no good. They're basically going to get what's offered or let him walk.

The Lakers will only offer one piece....he can take the Rockets future low round draft picks but don't sell me on it was the best deal...the best deal for them is to let Dwight walk and then tank the next few yrs to get high picks or let the Cavs facilitate a 3 way with the Lakers giving Orlando the high picks they covet..but to date Hennigan has done nothing in Orlando to garner whispers that he's a great GM.
They have to shed bad contracts.

[Koolaid_Man]

They have to shed bad contracts.

No they don't....its just a nicety....

If they let Dwight walk they'll have bad contracts but with the rookie wage scale they can absorb quite a bit. By the time they look decent enough to compete those contracts will fall off the books.

[djohn2oo8]

No they don't....its just a nicety....

If they let Dwight walk they'll have bad contracts but with the rookie wage scale they can absorb quite a bit. By the time they look decent enough to compete those contracts will fall off the books.
Why would they want to pay Hedo, Richardson, Duhon etc while they rebuild? Bad strategy and won't allow for a complete rebuild. To completely suck, they have to start d-leaguers.

[Koolaid_Man]

Why would they want to pay Hedo, Richardson, Duhon etc while they rebuild? Bad strategy and won't allow for a complete rebuild. To completely suck, they have to start d-leaguers.

My...you're just full of shitty ideas today....as per the usual....:lol

If they can shed them then good....my point is they won't shed them and get high picks if they trade Dwight to Houston. The best deal for them sends Bynum to Cleveland....Dwight plus 1 bad contract to LA...with high picks from the Cavs going to Orlando....the second best deal is to send Dwight + 1 bad contract directly to LA...if neither of these scenarios pan out the next best option is to let him walk.

They still have to maintain some semblance of an NBA team so fail on your D-league idea...and shame on you for suggesting it as a way to hide the fact I was owning you.

[024]

just send him to detroit for cheap and have him rot there for a year.

[djohn2oo8]

My...you're just full of shitty ideas today....as per the usual....:lol

If they can shed them then good....my point is they won't shed them and get high picks if they trade Dwight to Houston. The best deal for them sends Bynum to Cleveland....Dwight plus 1 bad contract to LA...with high picks from the Cavs going to Orlando....the second best deal is to send Dwight + 1 bad contract directly to LA...if neither of these scenarios pan out the next best option is to let him walk.

They still have to maintain some semblance of an NBA team so fail on your D-league idea...and shame on you for suggesting it as a way to hide the fact I was owning you.
Ok Ill play along, just cuz you look dashing in pink. How exactly would Orlando get high picks from Cleveland? Bynum + Kyrie is a playoff team, so you'd have late 1st round guaranteed contracts. If they made a deal, Orlando would send out more than 1 bad contract. Orlando's not going to get high picks anyway b/c they waited too late to trade Dwight, best they'd get is Toronto's pick from Houston (Top 3 protected), Dallas' pick from Houston, 3 second rounders, (one of which is Charlotte's and 2nd round contracts ARE NOT guaranteed). Thanx for keeping me entertained whoever's troll you are. Nothing good on TV.

[Koolaid_Man]

Ok Ill play along, just cuz you look dashing in pink. How exactly would Orlando get high picks from Cleveland? Bynum + Kyrie is a playoff team, so you'd have late 1st round guaranteed contracts. If they made a deal, Orlando would send out more than 1 bad contract. Orlando's not going to get high picks anyway b/c they waited too late to trade Dwight, best they'd get is Toronto's pick from Houston (Top 3 protected), Dallas' pick from Houston, 3 second rounders, (one of which is Charlotte's and 2nd round contracts ARE NOT guaranteed). Thanx for keeping me entertained whoever's troll you are. Nothing good on TV.

In a potential trade for Dwight and Bynum...compared to Houston what is Cleveland sitting on right now by way of picks?

[Koolaid_Man]

Ok Ill play along, just cuz you look dashing in pink. How exactly would Orlando get high picks from Cleveland? Bynum + Kyrie is a playoff team, so you'd have late 1st round guaranteed contracts. If they made a deal, Orlando would send out more than 1 bad contract. Orlando's not going to get high picks anyway b/c they waited too late to trade Dwight, best they'd get is Toronto's pick from Houston (Top 3 protected), Dallas' pick from Houston, 3 second rounders, (one of which is Charlotte's and 2nd round contracts ARE NOT guaranteed). Thanx for keeping me entertained whoever's troll you are. Nothing good on TV.

Further to my point and to make you look even more idiotic...If the Magic want to shed salary..wouldn't they be better off sending bad contracts to LA and Cleveland as opposed to just sending one to Houston?

[djohn2oo8]

Further to my point and to make you look even more idiotic...If the Magic want to shed salary..wouldn't they be better off sending bad contracts to LA and Cleveland as opposed to just sending one to Houston?
Like I said, Cleveland's picks would be worthless for Orlando with Bynum going to Cleveland. What does Cleveland have that Orlando would want? Exact same reason Brooklyn deal fell through.

[Venti Quattro]

Early August? So this joke is still going to go on for a couple of more weeks?

[djohn2oo8]

Early August? So this joke is still going to go on for a couple of more weeks?
Possibly so. IMO, I think it ends next week.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Further to my point and to make you look even more idiotic...If the Magic want to shed salary..wouldn't they be better off sending bad contracts to LA and Cleveland as opposed to just sending one to Houston?
How do you expect LA to take on a bad contract when all they have to give are bad contracts in return? only expiring is Mcbob's, but its still not enough to take on one of the contracts Orlando is trying to shed.

[Koolaid_Man]

Like I said, Cleveland's picks would be worthless for Orlando with Bynum going to Cleveland. What does Cleveland have that Orlando would want? Exact same reason Brooklyn deal fell through.

Anderson Varejao and multiple first round draft picks. Maybe LA throws in Ebanks plus McRoberts expiring...with the ability if LA and Cleveland to absorb more bad contracts...something that Houston cannot offer to such a degree

[Koolaid_Man]

How do you expect LA to take on a bad contract when all they have to give are bad contracts in return? only expiring is Mcbob's, but its still not enough to take on one of the contracts Orlando is trying to shed.


Simple answer Sherlock....By paying more in Luxury tax like they always do...:lol

read this and move along..



The Lakers, however, are open to taking the slightly more palatable contract of Magic guard-forward Jason Richardson (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/240307/jason-richardson), 31, who has three years and $18.6 million remaining.via Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak still swinging for home run—Dwight Howard - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20120718,0,4392157.story).

[djohn2oo8]

Anderson Varejao and multiple first round draft picks. Maybe LA throws in Ebanks plus McRoberts expiring...with the ability if LA and Cleveland to absorb more bad contracts...something that Houston cannot offer to such a degree
Multiple LATE first round picks. lol Varaejo has like 3 years 38 million remaining on his contract. Fail.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Simple answer Sherlock....By paying more in Luxury tax like they always do...:lol

read this and move along..
via Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak still swinging for home run—Dwight Howard - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20120718,0,4392157.story).
:lol problem isnt that they wouldnt pay the tax but just how do you expect them to take on the contracts?

[djohn2oo8]

ESPN.com reported on Wednesday that the Cavs have moved ahead of the Rockets as a facilitator in a deal with the Lakers and Magic, but a league source briefed on the talks maintained Wednesday this is all a leverage tactic to get the Rockets to up their offer for Howard.

A source with knowledge of the Lakers' plans confirmed Tuesday in Las Vegas that any talk of progress in trade talks regarding Howard was incredibly premature.
The Rockets remain the only team in the league with both the assets and desire to acquire Howard themselves. The Lakers need a third team to get something done because of their cap constraints and lack of desirable assets and the Nets are out of any trade talks until the middle of January.

The Rockets, meanwhile, still haven't signed any of their three first-round picks from last month's draft, hoping to at least include some -- if not all -- in a future deal for Howard. Once the players sign their rookie contracts, they cannot be traded for 30 days.

The Cavaliers to this point have not seemed inclined to include any of their young players in any potential deals. That includes Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Tyler Zeller and reigning Rookie of the Year Kyrie Irving.
C
avs general manager Chris Grant did leave Las Vegas summer league this week earlier than expected, as ESPN.com reported, but it was so he could return in time for the surgery on Irving's fractured right hand. It had absolutely nothing to do with any trade talks moving forward, a league source said.

In an intriguing twist, the Rockets were believed to be incredibly high on Zeller, whom the Cavs selected 17th overall. They had three picks in the middle of the first round, and had two chances at him before the Cavs traded up to No. 17. Yet they never selected him.
The belief of at least one front office official involved in the trade talks is that the Rockets were selecting players the Magic liked in an effort to get a deal done

[Koolaid_Man]

If Houston trades for Dwight and Orlando is stupid enough to take on the trash that Houston offers..Dwight will end up in Dallas...Mark my words...:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol problem isnt that they wouldnt pay the tax but just how do you expect them to take on the contracts?

are you that stupid..really

[djohn2oo8]

If Houston trades for Dwight and Orlando is stupid enough to take on the trash that Houston offers..Dwight will end up in Dallas...Mark my words...:lol
So he'll give up 30 million just like that? :rollin

[Koolaid_Man]

Multiple LATE first round picks. lol Varaejo has like 3 years 38 million remaining on his contract. Fail.


and the rockets have pretty much nothing but multiple late 2nd round picks...plus the trash they just drafted...pick your poison

[Koolaid_Man]

So he'll give up 30 million just like that? :rollin


He was willing to do it to go to the Nets...are you that stupid..He's already said he would leave 30 million on the table...I'm sure he could make it up and then some...playing in Houston would kill is career...thus far Houston has shown nothing but complete ineptness. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

and the rockets have pretty much nothing but multiple late 2nd round picks...plus the trash they just drafted...pick your poison

Rockets GM Daryl Morey has been busy dropping “poison pills” on team like banana peels in Mario Kart, so his team has obviously been tied up. After landing Jeremy Lin, Chicago’s Omer Asik is the next target, with a decision likely in Monday. In the midst of the delay, the Magic have gotten a peek at what all four rookie assets Morey accumulated are capable of. Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, Terrence Jones and 2011 pick Donatas Motiejunas all flourished in different ways. Orlando was watching, developing favorites.

http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/mejia-howard-playing-waiting-game-he-volunteered-for/

Kool with this third whiff of the game.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

are you that stupid..really
ok you seem to be a bigger moron today than usual. Let me re word my question. Who does LA have to give that the Magic would want to make the salary's match in order for LA to take on a bad contract?

[djohn2oo8]

He was willing to do it to go to the Nets...are you that stupid..He's already said he would leave 30 million on the table...I'm sure he could make it up and then some...playing in Houston would kill is career...thus far Houston has shown nothing but complete ineptness. :lol
:lol When? Opted in so he could keep the money and be traded to Nets.

[Koolaid_Man]

http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/mejia-howard-playing-waiting-game-he-volunteered-for/

Kool with this third whiff of the game.


:lmao ok ask yourself this simple question...if it's so appealing why haven't they executed a trade...signing Asik makes no difference..what-so-ever....

you're setting yourself up for a major heart break :lol

and I noticed how you failed to include this piece:


Orlando will send him to the team willing to rent him without assurances that puts the best deal together. That’s never changed. That’s been reported accurately here for weeks, so blame yourselves for riding the roller-coaster.

I find it funny Dwight hasn't openly expressed interest in Houston...we both know he'll walk and rightly so...Houston is bad for his career...He doens't have another 7 yrs for a rebuilding project....If he's smart he'll leave Houston hanging in the wind...

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao ok ask yourself this simple question...if it's so appealing why haven't they executed a trade...signing Asik makes no difference..what-so-ever....

you're setting yourself up for a major heart break :lol

and I noticed how you failed to include this piece:



I find it funny Dwight hasn't openly expressed interest in Houston...we both know he'll walk and rightly so...Houston is bad for his career...He doens't have another 7 yrs for a rebuilding project....If he's smart he'll leave Houston hanging in the wind...

lol you've yet to answer when Dwight said he'd give up 30 mil to go to the Nets. Since I know you can't and won't answer it, I'll be waiting.

Signing Asik changes how many bad contracts you can take on, which is why Orlando is waiting to see how many they can send and what the cap situation is once Asik goes to Houston.

What proof do you have he'll walk from 30 mil? D-Will didn't want to go to Brooklyn and we know what happened. Chris Webber literally cried when he was traded to Sacramento, and we know what happened. You striking out time and time again is entertaining.

[Kai]

dj, really don't know why you're wasting your time with this clown with his shitty takes. No one agrees with his backwards logic, just ignore him.

[djohn2oo8]

dj, really don't know why you're wasting your time with this clown with his shitty takes. No one agrees with his backwards logic, just ignore him.
Nothing on tv :lol

[Latarian Milton]

He was willing to do it to go to the Nets...are you that stupid..He's already said he would leave 30 million on the table...I'm sure he could make it up and then some...playing in Houston would kill is career...thus far Houston has shown nothing but complete ineptness. :lol

it's VERY difficult to sign a big name FA under the new CBA. whatever he says is just a method of demanding a trade. at end of day he'll certainly pick the option which he gets the biggest $ from, and that's by re-signing with whatever team that has his bird rights

[djohn2oo8]

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@RossPickering:So Houston would deal for Bynum w/o commitment? Also, HOU isn't offering "the farm" as reported by ESPN, right?"Yes/no farm

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@EnetricRealGM:Respect u Tony. But do u have info Rockets give best offer for either of these guys with no assurances beyond this yr?" Yes.

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@EnetricRealGM:Your tweets that HOU will give up a max package for rent-a-dwight is incredible. Wish you would cite WHY." Kevin Martin=$12M

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
Omer Asik's signing will NOT affect the role Houston Rockets playing as main faciliatator of a deal that nets Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum.

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@sbeezyTX: If the Dwightmare and Linsanity coincide in H-Town, how much will media slobber over Rockets?" Morey's goal is to restore brand.

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@ReAliGator:Do you stand by your belief that Rockets have higher chance of landing D12 over anybody else?" They make deal happen, AB or DH.

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@AQS18:When will the Dwightmare on Elm Street end?" We now finally have a checkered flag. Or pistol shot? I shouldn't use NASCAR analogies.

[Koolaid_Man]

lol you've yet to answer when Dwight said he'd give up 30 mil to go to the Nets. Since I know you can't and won't answer it, I'll be waiting.

Signing Asik changes how many bad contracts you can take on, which is why Orlando is waiting to see how many they can send and what the cap situation is once Asik goes to Houston.

What proof do you have he'll walk from 30 mil? D-Will didn't want to go to Brooklyn and we know what happened. Chris Webber literally cried when he was traded to Sacramento, and we know what happened. You striking out time and time again is entertaining.

I hear reports just like reporters do..why don't you email this guy and ask him: :lol

This guy agress with Kool 100%


Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuyDallas is very likely to be Dwight's landing place if he doesn't land in LA, where winning a title would surely convince him 2 sty







</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)Cavs won't do it w/o an extension in place, Rockets will....






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
You mean Bynum, I assume.....Lee refuted THAT report, though it makes sense. Bynum would be a great fit in Hou/Cle.








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</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
but do we really want the only story in Houston all year to be Dwight's status? I'd take Bynum...






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
Of course, Rockets are hopeful that Hakeem and Bird's rights would be enough to convince Dwight to stay....






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
- better than a rented Dwight.






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
Not saying Bynum 'would' ... only that it's more likely than Dwight, who says he won't.






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
We've been told Bynum might actually re-up in Houston, while Dwight repeatedly says he won't ....






J (https://twitter.com/wosnel)




@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy), would you call Dwights bluff and acquire him?







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[djohn2oo8]

I hear reports just like reporters do..why don't you email this guy and ask him: :lol

This guy agress with Kool 100%


Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuyDallas is very likely to be Dwight's landing place if he doesn't land in LA, where winning a title would surely convince him 2 sty







</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)Cavs won't do it w/o an extension in place, Rockets will....






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
You mean Bynum, I assume.....Lee refuted THAT report, though it makes sense. Bynum would be a great fit in Hou/Cle.








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</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
but do we really want the only story in Houston all year to be Dwight's status? I'd take Bynum...






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
Of course, Rockets are hopeful that Hakeem and Bird's rights would be enough to convince Dwight to stay....






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
- better than a rented Dwight.






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
Not saying Bynum 'would' ... only that it's more likely than Dwight, who says he won't.






</div> Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)
We've been told Bynum might actually re-up in Houston, while Dwight repeatedly says he won't ....






J (https://twitter.com/wosnel)




@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy), would you call Dwights bluff and acquire him?







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[Koolaid_Man]

H:lol:lolpsw:lolrld


dj:lolhn2:lol:lol8 getting shitted on and then back tracking by :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
After riding Dwightmare rollercoaster all July, look for deal to be in place in next 2 weeks. Magic/Rockets, surely. Lakers, maybe. No Cavs.

[racm]

Lin and Dwight on the same roster? :lol