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Capt Bringdown
07-21-2012, 09:21 PM
isidewith.com (http://www.isidewith.com/)

A fun exercise for the upcoming US presidential election. It's not likely to change anyone's vote, but goes past the polarizing conservative vs. liberal hot air with a look at a wide range of issues.

Nice implementation. I especially like the "choose another stance" feature - I haven't seen this executed like this anywhere else.

LOL, introduced me to some new candidates as well:

http://www.isidewith.com/_imgs/blogs/9819750_200.jpg
Jimmy McMillan is the founder of the Rent Is Too Damn High Party

It's seems that I'm Mr Romney's side on no major issues. Shocked!

ElNono
07-21-2012, 09:42 PM
Neat... here are my results:

http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31009287.jpg

baseline bum
07-21-2012, 10:00 PM
The results are bullshit; apparently I side with Obama 76% because I like the shit he says in speeches as opposed to what he actually does. I'm not sure how wanting universal health care is siding with Obama on healthcare either.

http://i.imgur.com/0O0zk.png

Capt Bringdown
07-21-2012, 10:29 PM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee280/rayong_kid/side.jpg

scott
07-21-2012, 11:07 PM
I purposely tried to pick the most hard-line conservative choices available (at least my impression of what they would be) to see what the results would be. Here they are:

http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31105969.jpg

Going to try again with what I consider to be the most hard-line liberal choices available. Then maybe I'll pick what I actually believe...

Clipper Nation
07-21-2012, 11:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DK6LQ.jpg

Not really surprising, tbh.....

baseline bum
07-21-2012, 11:15 PM
I purposely tried to pick the most hard-line conservative choices available (at least my impression of what they would be) to see what the results would be. Here they are:

http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31105969.jpg


You could have just waited for WC to post.

scott
07-21-2012, 11:17 PM
Didn't see the Choose Another Option in the Conservative Version, so I answered all "Yes-No" on those. Too lazy to go back and do it again.

But here is my Liberal version with Choose Another Option choices included.

Again, just doing this because I'm curious how the candidates align to their "bases" according to this site. And because I'm bored.

http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31114812.jpg

Wild Cobra
07-21-2012, 11:20 PM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31114338.jpg

baseline bum
07-21-2012, 11:23 PM
Damn, I had WC pegged as only 89% Romney and 88% Paul

http://i.imgur.com/RlhVL.png

LOL Republican

Wild Cobra
07-21-2012, 11:30 PM
Damn, I had WC pegged as only 89% Romney and 88% Paul

http://i.imgur.com/RlhVL.png

LOL Republican
Sorry to let you down.

ElNono
07-21-2012, 11:58 PM
Damn, I had WC pegged as only 89% Romney and 88% Paul

LOL Republican

lol underestimating cheerleader...

mercos
07-22-2012, 12:11 AM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31155378.jpg

Guess Liberal with a side of hawkish foreign policy gives you Obama. Sounds about right I guess.

mavs>spurs
07-22-2012, 03:03 AM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31219006.jpg

Juggity
07-22-2012, 05:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pefH8.png

NASpurs
07-22-2012, 08:30 AM
Yeah I'm all over the place.

http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31035986.jpg

Yonivore
07-22-2012, 10:06 AM
Probably because of my departure from the Libertarian platform on foreign policy.


http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/31367702.jpg

desflood
07-22-2012, 12:24 PM
I side with Gary Johnson on most issues in the 2012 Presidential Election.

Who you side with by party...

95%
Libertarian
72%
Democratic
65%
Republican
64%
Green

EVAY
07-22-2012, 09:20 PM
My results showed that I agreed with Jill Stein on most issues and I don't have the first clue who she is.

I didn't know that I was supposed to post my responses on the posts here.

I don't remember who came in second.

Who is Jill Stein?

coyotes_geek
07-23-2012, 07:47 AM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/32654144.jpg

TE
07-23-2012, 08:28 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/1zbclu9.jpg

boutons_deux
07-23-2012, 08:30 AM
weird how high Obama-agrees correlates with Texas-agrees??

TeyshaBlue
07-23-2012, 09:37 AM
Welp, I'm fairly surprised.

http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/32745078.jpg

coyotes_geek
07-23-2012, 10:23 AM
Welp, I'm fairly surprised.


You libtard!!!! :ihit

baseline bum
07-23-2012, 10:34 AM
You libtard!!!! :ihit

Shut up teabagger! :nutkick:

TeyshaBlue
07-23-2012, 03:55 PM
You libtard!!!! :ihit

gfy:p:

z0sa
07-23-2012, 04:02 PM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/33388732.jpg

Additionally, I sided 92% with Texas Voters on domestic policy, economic, science, immigration, healthcare, social, foreign policy, and environmental issues.

90% of American Voters on domestic policy, economic, science, social, foreign policy, immigration, healthcare, and environmental issues.

I think I am a fiscally conservative moderate with libertarian leanins, FWIW.

TeyshaBlue
07-23-2012, 04:07 PM
If anyone is even mildly surprised by the outcome of their survey, I'd suggest that the "importance" metric is a huge player in the results. Pretty sure it aggressively weights the category or question you answered if you moved the importance slider away from center. I think that's what really kicked me into my apparent love affair with Obama.

MannyIsGod
07-23-2012, 04:27 PM
I got Gary Johnson. I LOLed when it told me I agreed with Ron Paul on the environment. Yeah how about no?

DarrinS
07-23-2012, 04:40 PM
Said I agreed most with Gary Johson and Ron Paul.

Poll is obviously not very good.

Clipper Nation
07-23-2012, 06:31 PM
I got Gary Johnson. I LOLed when it told me I agreed with Ron Paul on the environment. Yeah how about no?

Paul's actually a pretty eco-friendly candidate if you don't buy the EPA's bullshit, tbh... he proposes using tort law to actually punish polluters in a court of law while driving up the cost of pollution, as opposed to the liberal "solution" of EPA permits that don't solve anything and expensive regulations that punish small businesses.... he also opposes oil and gas subsidies....

Wild Cobra
07-24-2012, 05:32 AM
Paul's actually a pretty eco-friendly candidate if you don't buy the EPA's bullshit, tbh... he proposes using tort law to actually punish polluters in a court of law while driving up the cost of pollution, as opposed to the liberal "solution" of EPA permits that don't solve anything and expensive regulations that punish small businesses.... he also opposes oil and gas subsidies....

Authoritarians just don't understand that libertarian solutions can work better.

MannyIsGod
07-24-2012, 08:40 AM
Paul's actually a pretty eco-friendly candidate if you don't buy the EPA's bullshit, tbh... he proposes using tort law to actually punish polluters in a court of law while driving up the cost of pollution, as opposed to the liberal "solution" of EPA permits that don't solve anything and expensive regulations that punish small businesses.... he also opposes oil and gas subsidies....

Paul is a terrible candidate if you want to protect the environment. He has no concept of a resource that all of society owns such as the ocean or the atmosphere. He feels you can do whatever you want with your land. Sure if you pollute someone elses land then you get to sue but I would in no way say that is an effective strategy against large corporations (LOL BP).

He also doesn't buy into climate change. Or he says he doesn't now after he did in the past. Any candidate who ignores basic science and starts decrying evolution and climate change (not aware of Pauls stance on evolution but I'm using it s an example of the type of scientific thinking I avoid) is not going to get very far with me.

The min problem with this poll is its based off of what these guys say when many don't men it one bit. I'm good for the environment! I'm sure thats what they all say. Too bad the reality is very different.

MannyIsGod
07-24-2012, 08:43 AM
Not to mention even if I had faith in the civil legal systems ability to work properly when large corpations were involved, its still a matter of shutting the barn door after the horse is out. Oh, you just contaminated the water supply that millions rely on through the dumping of toxic waste on private land? Prepare to get sued!

Blake
07-24-2012, 08:59 AM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/34433702.jpg

”do you believe in the theory of evolution?”

Smh

MannyIsGod
07-24-2012, 09:02 AM
Authoritarians just don't understand that libertarian solutions can work better.

:lol Romney supporter.

Clipper Nation
07-24-2012, 09:47 AM
Not to mention even if I had faith in the civil legal systems ability to work properly when large corpations were involved, its still a matter of shutting the barn door after the horse is out. Oh, you just contaminated the water supply that millions rely on through the dumping of toxic waste on private land? Prepare to get sued!
Still a better solution than "Prepare to get a meaningless permit," tbh....

Clipper Nation
07-24-2012, 09:49 AM
He feels you can do whatever you want with your land.

God forbid we actually RESPECT property rights in this country! The horror.... :rolleyes

MannyIsGod
07-24-2012, 10:22 AM
Still a better solution than "Prepare to get a meaningless permit," tbh....

Nice strawman. I don't remember where I advocated meaningless permits? I advocate the strong protection of community resources - ESPECIALLY water supplies - because they don't belong to any one person. You're the one that came in on a white horse trying to defend Paul's stupid ideas.

You will get no where protecting the environment with a punitive system because the damages and the ability to pay damages are rarely equal and the loss to society as a whole is greater.

The current system we have is far from perfect but I don't see how anyone can successfully argue against regulation and prevention being the best ways by far to protect the environment. Have you seen any American rivers burning recently?

MannyIsGod
07-24-2012, 10:25 AM
God forbid we actually RESPECT property rights in this country! The horror.... :rolleyes

Property rights =! doing whatever you want with your land. I cannot go buy an acre, and have a toxic waste dump on it where the waste is both allowed to enter the atmosphere and the water supply.

Yes, that would be a horror and its definitely something to be concerned about. The environmental history of corporations where regulation is absent is quite well documented.

Ask the people of Bopal what they think about lawsuits.

boutons_deux
07-24-2012, 10:28 AM
"Have you seen any American rivers burning recently"

but the Mississippi is a septic cess pool poisoning the Gulf, and all rivers and fish tested were polluted with methyl mercury from coal plants

MannyIsGod
07-24-2012, 10:29 AM
Just to be clear, I have no problems with suing polluters. I have a severe problem with anyone who believes that we can protect our national resources solely through a punitive system.

Wild Cobra
07-24-2012, 04:11 PM
Just to be clear, I have no problems with suing polluters. I have a severe problem with anyone who believes that we can protect our national resources solely through a punitive system.
The problem is the punitive action is laughable.

Save $1,000,000 dollars... get caught... get a $50,000 fine.

How many times are they not caught?

Drachen
07-24-2012, 04:20 PM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/35036502.jpg

Now i have to look and see who jill stein is.

Also, the numbers are all relatively close to one another which bolsters my claim that I am a left leaning centrist.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-24-2012, 04:48 PM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/35073269.jpg

As with most of these things I felt that the questions were loaded and fixated on forced paradigms. The debt ceiling question for example just made me roll my eyes as I think the notion of a debt ceiling as if it's like balancing your CC statements is just asinine.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-24-2012, 04:52 PM
Authoritarians just don't understand that libertarian solutions can work better.

Stupid people do not understand that sweeping generalizations are not the solution to anything.