Worst car maker?

[Lincoln]

In your experience or what you have heard, what is the shittiest car make? The cars that always seem to be in the shop or unreliable?

[benefactor]

Had tons of problems with my Mazda but that was back in '05. Not sure how they are now.

[TimmehC]

Chrysler products, tbh. Especially Mitsubishi.

[Wild Cobra]

Jaguar.

Someone I know jokes about having to have three of them.

One running, one in the shop being worked on, and another in the shop awaiting parts.

[Lincoln]

Yeah I heard Chrysler cars are just shit. A guy I went to school with got a 2011 Dodge charger and there were already transmission issues before it hit 1300 miles

[Wild Cobra]

Yeah I heard Chrysler cars are just shit. A guy I went to school with got a 2011 Dodge charger and there were already transmission issues before it hit 1300 miles
It's the high quality of union labor.

[DarrinS]

Mercedes used to be good -- now, POS.

[Creepn]

Yeah I heard Chrysler cars are just shit. A guy I went to school with got a 2011 Dodge charger and there were already transmission issues before it hit 1300 miles

Nah it's not the transmission. Chrysler cars have a shitty plastic part for the park lock mechanism in the gearshifts that breaks off and makes it impossible to take it out of park. They end up taking it in for a replacement and spending huge bucks instead of buying the $50 part in metal and taking an hour to do it yourself.

It happened to me and will happen to everybody who owns the mopar cars. Don't know about the 2011 and 2012's though. Other than that, I say their cars are nice. Drove the new 300? Very nice.

[Wild Cobra]

Mercedes used to be good -- now, POS.
Mercedes went to shit sometimes in the 80's. When I lived in Gärtringen, my next door neighbor worked at the Mercedes manufacturing facility in Sindelfingen. He kept saying how they kept lowering the manufacturing quality.

[monosylab1k]

Just go Jap and never worry about your car having problems.

[CubanMustGo]

Just go Jap and never worry about your car having problems.

Unless you made the mistake of buying a 2006-9 Civic Hybrid with the batteries that went to crap way too soon (they tried coming out with a software patch to slow it down but too late for a lot of us).

[Lincoln]

Yeah I for a 10 corolla and it's been great so far, I know 2 people with civics at 280k and still running great

[Avante]

Anything British.

[dunkman]

Out of Peugeot, Mitsubishi and Toyota, Toyota was the worst. Everything was optional, hard plastics and low quality seats, the suspension was garbage, very fragile, very insecure. I got a good resale value for it, though. Maybe their more expensive models are better?

[Lincoln]

What Toyota and year u get

[dunkman]

Tercel, long time ago.

[Lincoln]

lol there's a reason they discontinued those

[AussieFanKurt]

http://www.greatwallmotors.com.au/

I hear their cars are made in China and out of plastic

[pawe]

Mercedes used to be good -- now, POS.

They were bad 2000-2008 but they revamped everything and is solid now.
Fiat is the worst car maker in terms of looks.

[Wild Cobra]

http://www.greatwallmotors.com.au/

I hear their cars are made in China and out of plastic
You mean the ones you buy at WalMart?

[AussieFanKurt]

You mean the ones you buy at WalMart?

Possibly. No WalMart here... thank god. But I have heard bad things about Great Wall

[benefactor]

Just go Jap and never worry about your car having problems.
Or Korean.

[scanry]

Anything British.

Do the British even have em anymore. I know JLR has been sold to Tata Group, Rolls to BMW, Bentley to VW, Leyland is bankrupt and some one can probably chip in with the rest.

IMO the Japs are by far the best, and them Korean are closin' in (real fast). Have they overtaken Honda yet? I heard they are doing great in Asia, Europe & South America. :wow

Pretty soon, i seriously doubt if Mercedes will even survive.

And finally shout out to FIAT, how did they do when no one ever could by turning around Chrysler. :wow

"Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne is now suggesting that Chrysler's operating profit in 2012 could exceed its $3 billion (U.S.) target, reports Reuters. If the June and year-to-date sales numbers in Canada and the United States are any indication, that level of profitability seems a foregone conclusion -- barring a complete global economic meltdown."

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/the-stunning-chrysler-story-a-success-story-in-the-making-1.866423#ixzz21uyvneB9

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Or Korean.

This. Hyundai and Kia are right about where Honda and Toyota were in the 80s.

[xellos88330]

I don't know about yall, but I have driven two brands of cars in my life and have never had trouble with either. I drove a 98 Escort for 12 years, and am currently driving a Mitsubishi for the last 3 years. Nothing major wrong so far. Then again, my father used to be a mechanic and he always bugs me if I have done the proper preventative maintenance on the vehicle. So far I suppose it has worked out pretty good for me.

[Bill_Brasky]

I've heard Suzuki cars suck.

[jag]

Jaguar.

Someone I know jokes about having to have three of them.

One running, one in the shop being worked on, and another in the shop awaiting parts.

Jaguar. Those things are money pits.



Just go Jap and never worry about your car having problems.

Sure, but then you have to drive around in a Jap-designed car with a Jap-engineered motor. If you want something that actually performs, you go German. VW and Audi vehicles will last just as long and are better engineered. BMWs are close behind VW and Audi in reliability, but they perform better.

[PublicOption]

Chrysler has always sucked until about 2 years ago. Now I would buy one. It seems here lately the chevy products are kind of shitty. They will get it right eventually, but in their rush to "catch up" they made some mistakes. (see chevy malibu leaky roofs)

Otherwise most cars are going to VVT engines and that is the key. VVT engines usually are problem free for most of their lives.

[Wild Cobra]

Quality comes and goes. That's all there is to it.

[DMC]

American cars, probably Ford although the Fusion is a decent car.

There are a lot of shitty car makers worldwide though, a lot of them we never experience.

Toyota is one of the best though, and have been for a long time.

[Lincoln]

I thought u owned a ford dmc

[cantthinkofanything]

Well...you know what "Renault" stands for?





Poor old nigga thinks it's a Cadillac

[silverblk mystix]

Jaguar. Those things are money pits.




Sure, but then you have to drive around in a Jap-designed car with a Jap-engineered motor. If you want something that actually performs, you go German. VW and Audi vehicles will last just as long and are better engineered. BMWs are close behind VW and Audi in reliability, but they perform better.



That depends who you ask, I've owned all three and the Bimmer was more dependable than the Audi/VW...although the only problems I had with the Audi and VW were electrical issues covered under warranty and immediately rectified.
The Bimmer had zero problems and free maintenance to boot.

[cantthinkofanything]

That depends who you ask, I've owned all three and the Bimmer was more dependable than the Audi/VW...although the only problems I had with the Audi and VW were electrical issues covered under warranty and immediately rectified.
The Bimmer had zero problems and free maintenance to boot.

Don't know if they've gotten any better but we bought my stepson an Audi. And every damn thing that went wrong was at least $1,000. Including fixing bad sensors.

[DMC]

I thought u owned a ford dmc
It's a truck though. Regardless, the 6.0L diesel is the shittiest diesel made that year and I've spent a ton of money bullet proofing it. It's got a ton of hp and torque and runs great now, but off the line they were turds.

Ford is notorious for over tuning their engines to get performance numbers to beat competition, then they issue a reflash on your first service visit and detune the vehicle to reduce service costs associated with failures related to the overtune. It's a shady practice, and they don't stand behind anything afterward and threaten you with warranty void if you do anything to keep your engine from self destructing by applying after market mods.

If you were to follow the evolution of the engine, even now they are doing pretty much the same thing by undoing all the shit they did to sell you the vehicle in the first place.

One thing they do keep intact is the emission control system, which is the bane of the engine's existence.

Ford doesn't give two shits about it's existing customers. They just want new ones. Their idea is that new customers bring more revenue than existing customers. It's more expensive to correct things existing customers know about than to bullshit new ones with trumped up numbers and sales jargon.

So yeah, I have a butt hurt about them.

[scanry]

Well...you know what "Renault" stands for?

Poor old nigga thinks it's a Cadillac

PONTIAC. :lol

[jag]

That depends who you ask, I've owned all three and the Bimmer was more dependable than the Audi/VW...although the only problems I had with the Audi and VW were electrical issues covered under warranty and immediately rectified.
The Bimmer had zero problems and free maintenance to boot.

Audi has really improved in the past 5 years or so. My sister had an A4 in high school and it had all kinds of little problems. But that was back in 2004. I have a '10 BMW and have never had a problem with it, but my personal experience doesn't change the fact that, in general, recent Audi and VW vehicles will hold their value better. The Audi A5 is one of the most underrated cars right now. The way that car holds its value is incredible.

[silverblk mystix]

Audi has really improved in the past 5 years or so. My sister had an A4 in high school and it had all kinds of little problems. But that was back in 2004. I have a '10 BMW and have never had a problem with it, but my personal experience doesn't change the fact that, in general, recent Audi and VW vehicles will hold their value better. The Audi A5 is one of the most underrated cars right now. The way that car holds its value is incredible.

Those A5's are cool as shit. Have you seen the S5? Not sure if they arrived yet but some of the magazines have tested them and they are awesome. They are basically a souped up A5.

BMW's are also at or near the top when it comes to holding its value.

VW and Audi share a lot of parts,engines,etc and some Audi's are actually built in Hungary (my TT engine and VW GTI engines were built in Hungary and are awesome little 4 bangers).

[leemajors]

Well...you know what "Renault" stands for?





Poor old nigga thinks it's a Cadillac

Renault engines power Team Red Bull in F1, they know how to build amazing engines at the least, winning the last two titles as well as being well out in front this year.

[jag]

Those A5's are cool as shit. Have you seen the S5? Not sure if they arrived yet but some of the magazines have tested them and they are awesome. They are basically a souped up A5.

BMW's are also at or near the top when it comes to holding its value.

VW and Audi share a lot of parts,engines,etc and some Audi's are actually built in Hungary (my TT engine and VW GTI engines were built in Hungary and are awesome little 4 bangers).

Yeah, I'm familiar with the S4 and S5, and I've seen a couple S5s around here. They've been available in the US since late 2008/2009. I got to test drive an A5 coupe, but never an S5. I was really close to getting the A5, but then I test drove a BMW 335i coupe and I was sold. It made me realize how slow the A5 was. The S5 and 335is are awesome, but were a few grand over what I had decided I would spend on a car.

I'm not sure about parts and such, but I had thought Audi and VW shared certain engines (e.g. the A4 and the Jetta).

[silverblk mystix]

Yeah, I'm familiar with the S4 and S5, and I've seen a couple S5s around here. They've been available in the US since late 2008/2009. I got to test drive an A5 coupe, but never an S5. I was really close to getting the A5, but then I test drove a BMW 335i coupe and I was sold. It made me realize how slow the A5 was. The S5 and 335is are awesome, but were a few grand over what I had decided I would spend on a car.

I'm not sure about parts and such, but I had thought Audi and VW shared certain engines (e.g. the A4 and the Jetta).


Yeah, the global architecture is blurring a lot of the lines and carmakers save money by building a platform which can be used for different models with a few tweaks.

The 2.0 turbo in the VW GTI is the same engine as in the Audi TT...and the TT can be tuned higher since Audi charges a lot more $$

[mavs>spurs]

Don't know if they've gotten any better but we bought my stepson an Audi. And every damn thing that went wrong was at least $1,000. Including fixing bad sensors.

crofl crofl lmfao taking care of somebody else's bastard babeh