iphone 5

[TheMACHINE]

5c...the porsche boxster of phones.

[jeebus]

The 5C could be a nice re-entry point to the Apple Ecosystem for me, but I don't want to get tied to a 2-year contract with an iPhone. I love my Galaxy Note.
I don't know about the specs though...did they talk about it for the 5c? Will it be comparable to the 5 or 4s? I like my 4s, which is why I'm not in a hurry to upgrade the day it comes out.

[Venti Quattro]

I don't know about the specs though...did they talk about it for the 5c? Will it be comparable to the 5 or 4s? I like my 4s, which is why I'm not in a hurry to upgrade the day it comes out.

Cook laid out the specs and it looks like the original iPhone 5 ... 8mp camera, 4.0" screen, that same shit. BUT the storage configs are only 16/32 which kinda sucks because I think that it'd really sell if it had 32/64 instead.

[leemajors]

Cook laid out the specs and it looks like the original iPhone 5 ... 8mp camera, 4.0" screen, that same shit. BUT the storage configs are only 16/32 which kinda sucks because I think that it'd really sell if it had 32/64 instead.

Yeah 5 guts like mini has ipad 2 innards. I like being on the s upgrade cycle tbh.

[jeebus]

Cook laid out the specs and it looks like the original iPhone 5 ... 8mp camera, 4.0" screen, that same shit. BUT the storage configs are only 16/32 which kinda sucks because I think that it'd really sell if it had 32/64 instead.
Oh word, I didn't see that part. If they had the 32/64 storage and still sold for the same price, that would've been huge. I guess the profit margins weren't big enough for that to happen.

[Venti Quattro]

Oh word, I didn't see that part. If they had the 32/64 storage and still sold for the same price, that would've been huge. I guess the profit margins weren't big enough for that to happen.

Or they're gonna throw that shit in the next update cycle. I hate smartphone makers throwing all these features but they like to leave the storage space short for the user. Fucktards. 32GB should be the minimum in this day and age of the smartphone.

[jeebus]

Yeah 5 guts like mini has ipad 2 innards. I like being on the s upgrade cycle tbh.
fuck yeah. I had the option of getting an iphone 5 early but there's no way I'd do that. det s upgrade is worth the wait.

Or they're gonna throw that shit in the next update cycle. I hate smartphone makers throwing all these features but they like to leave the storage space short for the user. Fucktards. 32GB should be the minimum in this day and age of the smartphone.
I wouldn't doubt it if it happened next year with both samsung and apple, especially if apple wants to even dream about competing with nintendo in the handheld market.

[lefty]

Can't wait for the iPhone 5c ads

"now in plastic and different colors "

[TheMACHINE]

https://twitter.com/NokiaUS/status/377486843178418176/photo/1

[ElNono]

I'm still running a 4, prolly gonna pick up a 5S

[anakha]

$549 for an unlocked 5c is kinda ridiculous.

I know Apple's business model uses high markups, but I don't think pricing their 'low-cost' model in line with flagship phones from other OEMs is the right approach.

[lefty]

Can't wait for the iPhone 5c ads

"now in plastic and different colors "

I guess I called it :lmao

http://i.imgur.com/HTD3SSR.png

[resistanze]

The 5C is ugly as sin. 5S looks attractive as expected, I even like the gold.

[resistanze]

What was the point of the 5C anyways? What market was it trying to capture? It's not even that cheap.

I can only assume they wanted a cheaper production alternative than selling the iPhone 5 for longer.

[leemajors]

What was the point of the 5C anyways? What market was it trying to capture? It's not even that cheap.

I can only assume they wanted a cheaper production alternative than selling the iPhone 5 for longer.

teens will eat that shit up tbh

[IronMexican]

Really glad I picked up the s4.

Sort of like I am in the sX cycle for android, too. I like that.

[resistanze]

teens will eat that shit up tbh
They were better off getting that China money imo


Really glad I picked up the s4.

Sort of like I am in the sX cycle for android, too. I like that.
Yeah, I went from S2 to S4 (one X+ mistake doesn't count). I look forward to the S6.

[jeebus]

What was the point of the 5C anyways? What market was it trying to capture? It's not even that cheap.

I can only assume they wanted a cheaper production alternative than selling the iPhone 5 for longer.
you don't know the POWER of colorful electronics in the asian market. /darthvader

seriously. the zipperheads love that shit.

[lefty]

Really glad I picked up the s4.

Sort of like I am in the sX cycle for android, too. I like that.

My next phone TBH

[Cry Havoc]

Super unimpressive upgrade, IMO. Fingerprint is nice, but hardly a reason to buy a new phone. 64 bit is incredibly meh at this stage until it starts to get utilized, which probably won't be for another 2-3 years.

Will be interesting to see what the winter refresh of Android cell phones brings to the table. Right now I'm leaning toward picking up a HTC ONE. I'm guessing something else will come along soon to change my mind.

[anakha]

What was the point of the 5C anyways? What market was it trying to capture? It's not even that cheap.

I can only assume they wanted a cheaper production alternative than selling the iPhone 5 for longer.

After finding out that Apple's discontinuing the original iPhone 5, this whole thing became clearer for me.

Their traditional approach has been to mark down the previous generation iPhone when the newest one comes out, using the logic that if people want to get cheaper iPhones, they can just get last year's model.

The iPhone 5c's price matches what would have been their usual markdown for the iPhone 5 at this time. Given that the 5 is being discontinued, this implies that they never meant to release a lower-cost iPhone at all, just expanding the potential market that would normally be interested in getting a marked-down iPhone by adding the color packaging.

The fact that the 5c is basically the 5 in different outfits contributes to this theory.

Whether that approach works or not is the question.

[jeebus]

Super unimpressive upgrade, IMO.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m5d0_everything-is-amazing-and-nobody-i_fun

[leemajors]

They were better off getting that China money imo


Yeah, I went from S2 to S4 (one X+ mistake doesn't count). I look forward to the S6.

roping a new generation of teens in US that spend money in the app store where people actually buy shit is not bad.

A 64 bit HTC One or an s4 would have CH throbbing imho, i think he is being a bit dishonest there :lol

[lefty]

The HTC One is very nice, but fuck them, I'm done with those lying faggots


Too bad cuz they just started making ads with my hero Tony Stark :cry

[DJ Mbenga]

when apple cannot innovate they turn to colors. see ipods and nanos. they were never releasing a cheap iphone. so they wanted to make the 5 not seem old so they repackaged it into a more profitable and desirable option for consumers or the apple zombies. its also to deter people from buying the 4s. they want those to go away so is7 doesnt suck on older devices.

[blkroadrunners]

Just switched from my primitive 3G to the iPhone 5 earlier this week.

Didn't give a doodoo about the 5C and their fruity colors.

[leemajors]

when apple cannot innovate they turn to colors. see ipods and nanos. they were never releasing a cheap iphone. so they wanted to make the 5 not seem old so they repackaged it into a more profitable and desirable option for consumers or the apple zombies. its also to deter people from buying the 4s. they want those to go away so is7 doesnt suck on older devices.

if they wanted to deter people from buying the 4s they would simply discontinue it.

[ElNono]

Dunno how long Cook can keep this thing going, tbh... When Steve was around you could at least expect a "there's one more thing" type of thing where they would show something fairly innovative. Also, the leak-fest that the last two release cycles have been is crazy bad for a company that wants to 'shock'. It's one other thing that didn't happen as often when Steve was around (still remember Jobs suing some rumor sites that leaked info).

[leemajors]

Dunno how long Cook can keep this thing going, tbh... When Steve was around you could at least expect a "there's one more thing" type of thing where they would show something fairly innovative. Also, the leak-fest that the last two release cycles have been is crazy bad for a company that wants to 'shock'. It's one other thing that didn't happen as often when Steve was around (still remember Jobs suing some rumor sites that leaked info).

None of the recent new cell products are all that interesting or innovative imo, might have just hit a plateau for now across the board

[AntiChrist]

I've had the 4 for a long time. Still meets my needs. I don't need a fucking tangerine colored phone.

[leemajors]

Samsung promises 64 bit chips in s5:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123620-samsung-galaxy-s5-will-have-a-64-bit-processor-like-the-iphone-5s

[TeyshaBlue]

None of the recent new cell products are all that interesting or innovative imo, might have just hit a plateau for now across the board

Some kind of Moore's law for phones has been reached. Dunno what it would take to breach it.

It'll likely be some new flex screen tech that lets the physical design of the phone evolve beyond the candybar form.

[anakha]

None of the recent new cell products are all that interesting or innovative imo, might have just hit a plateau for now across the board

In fairness, I think mobile hardware innovation in general has plateaued across the board.

The next innovation will come with battery efficiency, where manufacturers will be able to get good battery life without having to rely on massive 3000 mAh+ batteries, imo.

[symple19]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIWez9HAbA

[TDMVPDPOY]

thought it the 5c was meant to be dirt cheap, fkn more expensive then fkn s4

[leemajors]

In fairness, I think mobile hardware innovation in general has plateaued across the board.

The next innovation will come with battery efficiency, where manufacturers will be able to get good battery life without having to rely on massive 3000 mAh+ batteries, imo.

I sure hope so

[resistanze]

I'm definitely gonna keep my phones longer tbh. Minimum 2 years for my S4 (unless something happens to it):

iPhone (1 year)
iPhone 3GS (2 years, 3 months)
Samsung galaxy S2 (1 year, 4 months)
HTC One X+ (4 months lol)
Samsung Galaxy S4 (at least 2 years)

[leemajors]

I'm definitely gonna keep my phones longer tbh. Minimum 2 years for my S4 (unless something happens to it):

iPhone (1 year)
iPhone 3GS (2 years, 3 months)
Samsung galaxy S2 (1 year, 4 months)
HTC One X+ (4 months lol)
Samsung Galaxy S4 (at least 2 years)

:tu

[UZER]

I've had the Nokia 920 for a year now. I really enjoy the windows phone platform. Its right in between apple and android. It allows more customization than apple, but its not an open abyss like android. The only thing that lacks is the apps, which the essentials are there, but alot of the cool fringe stuff is missing.

[jeebus]

I'm definitely gonna keep my phones longer tbh. Minimum 2 years for my S4 (unless something happens to it):

iPhone (1 year)
iPhone 3GS (2 years, 3 months)
Samsung galaxy S2 (1 year, 4 months)
HTC One X+ (4 months lol)
Samsung Galaxy S4 (at least 2 years)
that's pretty good tbh, minus the lolHTC. after having my flip phone for like 5 years, I got the Samsung Blackjack 2, which was actually pretty decent. I dropped that fucker so many times and it didn't crack, though the screen fell off lol. Then the 3GS I had for about 1 year, 10 months, then handed it off to a friend to act as an ipod. I've had the 4S for 2 years and it's been great.
leemajors is right, as is anakha. it's gotten to where new phones are always "the fastest thing ever", with apple dropping something that's been around a while and acting like it's brand new, while Samsung just keeps making the screen bigger. until a company introduces a battery that lasts like for a solid week of real use, or projects a virtual keyboard, or a phone that is flexible, or some sort of real "holy shit" type shit, a new phone will always be a bit of a letdown.

[TheMACHINE]

u think all Samsung has been doing is making screen bigger? lol

[jeebus]

lol

[resistanze]

that's pretty good tbh, minus the lolHTC. after having my flip phone for like 5 years, I got the Samsung Blackjack 2, which was actually pretty decent. I dropped that fucker so many times and it didn't crack, though the screen fell off lol. Then the 3GS I had for about 1 year, 10 months, then handed it off to a friend to act as an ipod. I've had the 4S for 2 years and it's been great.
leemajors is right, as is anakha. it's gotten to where new phones are always "the fastest thing ever", with apple dropping something that's been around a while and acting like it's brand new, while Samsung just keeps making the screen bigger. until a company introduces a battery that lasts like for a solid week of real use, or projects a virtual keyboard, or a phone that is flexible, or some sort of real "holy shit" type shit, a new phone will always be a bit of a letdown.
Yeah, and the HTC was only because I was signing a new contract, flipped that shit real quick. I'll justify my next purchase on a practical innovation like battery, not on a 16 core fucking CPU.

[lefty]

I'll justify my next purchase on a practical innovation like battery, not on a 16 core fucking CPU.
This TBH

When I get the Galaxy S4, I'll keep it for at least 2 years

It's good enough not to need to jump to the latest "omg billion-core CPU"

I dont think most users need such powerful phones ... ok so you got a 16 core smartphone....tell me what you're gonna do with it other than making calls, playing Angry Birds and some browsing .... power the fucking Tesseract ?

[jeebus]

Yeah, and the HTC was only because I was signing a new contract, flipped that shit real quick. I'll justify my next purchase on a practical innovation like battery, not on a 16 core fucking CPU.
True that. I don't want a stupid hand waving thing, a pink phone with a blue case, or a video that pauses when you blink or supercomputer in my phone that opens my email .0005 seconds faster than a competitors. I was kinda missing my old flip phone because the battery lasted so long because it hardly had to work, and that phone was made in like '03. Meh.

Edit: can't forget to mention useless siri.

[Cry Havoc]

roping a new generation of teens in US that spend money in the app store where people actually buy shit is not bad.

A 64 bit HTC One or an s4 would have CH throbbing imho, i think he is being a bit dishonest there :lol

What? Why? That makes no sense. 64 bit in cell phones is pointless and probably will be for another 2-3 years minimum. It's cool but completely ineffective at the moment. Can you even list one advantage it will have right now over 32, especially on phones with less than 4 gigs of RAM?

No dishonesty at all. A fingerprint reader and useless architecture are Apple's aces in the holes these days. I'm actually worried for them as a company if they continue this level of "innovation". Samsung is so far ahead of everyone else that's it's actually concerning.

[leemajors]

What? Why? That makes no sense. 64 bit in cell phones is pointless and probably will be for another 2-3 years minimum. It's cool but completely ineffective at the moment. Can you even list one advantage it will have right now over 32, especially on phones with less than 4 gigs of RAM?

No dishonesty at all. A fingerprint reader and useless architecture are Apple's aces in the holes these days. I'm actually worried for them as a company if they continue this level of "innovation". Samsung is so far ahead of everyone else that's it's actually concerning.

I was, of course, kidding. It was hilarious that Samsung quickly announced 64 bit later that same day. Nobody is way ahead and most things are reactionary these days anyway. No one can have their little launch parties without taking stupid jabs at each other.

[jeebus]

Nobody is way ahead and most things are reactionary these days anyway. No one can have their little launch parties without taking stupid jabs at each other.
That's the part I'm confused about. I don't know much about the specs and shit of the iphones or samsung's phones. I try to find comparisons online that aren't stupidly biased and when I do find a decent side by side comparison, I'm not seeing much of a difference. How is Samsung "so far ahead" of all the other phones that it's "concerning"?

[ElNono]

None of the recent new cell products are all that interesting or innovative imo, might have just hit a plateau for now across the board

Well, I don't expect other cell manufacturers to radically innovate, tbh... that's the kind of stuff you expected from Apple... Besides the iPhone 1 which was radically different from anything out there, the upgrade from iPhone 3GS to 4 was pretty big, innovation-wise. The retina display, the slick design with the glass front and back. They were expensive gambles that the rest of the industry followed once they saw there was a market for that.

Sony used to be a company that used to take such gambles, but they've been slipping too.

[ElNono]

What? Why? That makes no sense. 64 bit in cell phones is pointless and probably will be for another 2-3 years minimum. It's cool but completely ineffective at the moment. Can you even list one advantage it will have right now over 32, especially on phones with less than 4 gigs of RAM?

The ARMv8 64 bit design has been out for a while, this is just the first publicly available implementation. It's much more that just "64 bit address bus" and addressing over 4GB of memory.

All 32 GP registers are 64 bit, twice the amount of FP registers. There's a bunch of licensees of the tech, I'm sure the next batch of phones will switch to it.

[ElNono]

That's the part I'm confused about. I don't know much about the specs and shit of the iphones or samsung's phones. I try to find comparisons online that aren't stupidly biased and when I do find a decent side by side comparison, I'm not seeing much of a difference. How is Samsung "so far ahead" of all the other phones that it's "concerning"?

They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...

:lol hand waving

[Venti Quattro]

I'll justify my next purchase on a practical innovation like battery, not on a 16 core fucking CPU.

+ a 6000 mAh battery, and I'll be the first in line. :lol

[Venti Quattro]

They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...

:lol hand waving

:lol new colors
:lol new innovation

[lefty]

:lol new innovation
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m16uigw3BQ1qgsl74o1_400.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

That's the part I'm confused about. I don't know much about the specs and shit of the iphones or samsung's phones. I try to find comparisons online that aren't stupidly biased and when I do find a decent side by side comparison, I'm not seeing much of a difference. How is Samsung "so far ahead" of all the other phones that it's "concerning"?


They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...

:lol hand waving

Meh, I should have been more clear here. I don't think Samsung is far ahead in innovation, my comment was more targeted at sales and the future of the mobile platform. Android is the most popular mobile phone OS in the world now and Samsung has so much of the Android market that it could border on monopoly soon. Which, of course, will limit Android as a platform.

[Venti Quattro]

Meh, I should have been more clear here. I don't think Samsung is far ahead in innovation, my comment was more targeted at sales and the future of the mobile platform. Android is the most popular mobile phone OS in the world now and Samsung has so much of the Android market that it could border on monopoly soon. Which, of course, will limit Android as a platform.

Well it's up to other Android-powered phone makers to not suck. Samsung is WAY AHEAD of any other Android phone maker in terms of innovation and specs.

[anakha]

I'd actually argue that Sony and HTC are the most innovative in terms of trying new hardware (cameras, building materials) and UI. Sony's 2013 Xperia releases have all had unique form factor or camera additions, and Sense 5.0 is without a doubt the biggest departure from stock Android I've seen yet.

What Samsung is head and shoulders above everyone else is at marketing. They outspend everybody on marketing by such a massive amount it's ridiculous.

[ElNono]

Android isn't a difference maker because it's available to every handset maker, and controlled by Google. That's why every handset maker tries hard to differentiate themselves by slapping some custom UI on top, and why Samsung is looking into alternatives like Tizen.

So that leaves you with the design side, and I'm with anakha on that one. I really liked what HTC did with the One. That's a company that was struggling to stick around, took a big gamble, and it paid off. It's the first Android phone that I thought had the right looks, design-wise. Sony is the other company I mentioned before, but again, I think it's difficult for them to differentiate enough to be able to charge a premium and thus get bigger margins. And I think that's something that holds them back from taking on a big gamble.

Samsung has the advantage that they produce most of the high-end components on many phones, including the iPhone, so they have the ability to be first-to-market in many areas. But a lot of their sales come from small-margin markets, and frankly, I've yet to see a Samsung phone that made me go 'wow'.

[jeebus]

They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...

:lol hand waving


:lol new colors
:lol new innovation
leading the way in shit no one cares about :lol apple dropped the last truth bomb with the pretty c:lmaolors; it's samsung's turn to give us something we'll never use.


Meh, I should have been more clear here. I don't think Samsung is far ahead in innovation, my comment was more targeted at sales and the future of the mobile platform. Android is the most popular mobile phone OS in the world now and Samsung has so much of the Android market that it could border on monopoly soon. Which, of course, will limit Android as a platform.
ah, that makes more sense. it also helps that android phones are way cheaper than apple. the stupid 5c was supposed to be the cheap model, yet it costs more than just about every other phone out there other than the 5s? :lol

[leemajors]

Lame as shit I can't pre-order a 5s tbh. I better be able to at least reserve one at Best Buy or something.

[leemajors]

Meh, I should have been more clear here. I don't think Samsung is far ahead in innovation, my comment was more targeted at sales and the future of the mobile platform. Android is the most popular mobile phone OS in the world now and Samsung has so much of the Android market that it could border on monopoly soon. Which, of course, will limit Android as a platform.

Plenty of rumblings from investors worried about Samsung keeping up their current pace, wouldn't be surprised to see their stock take a little tumble in the next year or so too.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Plenty of rumblings from investors worried about Samsung keeping up their current pace, wouldn't be surprised to see their stock take a little tumble in the next year or so too.

you cant compare sammy to apple man, sammy produce other shit besides phones, they also make parts and patented shit for other companies use in their end products, as for apply how long can they go on with their iphone strategy?

[leemajors]

you cant compare sammy to apple man, sammy produce other shit besides phones, they also make parts and patented shit for other companies use in their end products, as for apply how long can they go on with their iphone strategy?

I am talking about Samsung's mobile business, which is pretty much separate from their parts business. Samsung Electronics has a separate stock from the other parts of the business.

[TeyshaBlue]

They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...

:lol hand waving

The whole sPen and it's associated app was fairly remarkable, tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

leading the way in shit no one cares about :lol apple dropped the last truth bomb with the pretty c:lmaolors; it's samsung's turn to give us something we'll never use.
:lol But Samsung has the S IV Mini and the S IV Active :lmao

They may not populate the market with Fruity Pebble phones but they flood the market with segment-targeted phones.

That's why I love the Galaxy Note. It's their flagship model that hasn't been bastardized ...... yet. I hope they keep the Note to one segment and that is for everyone who wants to have a premium phone that they could be proud of.

[ElNono]

The whole sPen and it's associated app was fairly remarkable, tbh.

The innovation was going *away* from a pen, IMO. Can't stop thinking about Palm Pilot when I see one of those.

[leemajors]

:lol But Samsung has the S IV Mini and the S IV Active :lmao

They may not populate the market with Fruity Pebble phones but they flood the market with segment-targeted phones.

That's why I love the Galaxy Note. It's their flagship model that hasn't been bastardized ...... yet. I hope they keep the Note to one segment and that is for everyone who wants to have a premium phone that they could be proud of.

Don't forget the Galaxy Gear :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

The innovation was going *away* from a pen, IMO. Can't stop thinking about Palm Pilot when I see one of those.

I owned one.:lol The Palm Pilot can't carry the spen's jock.

[jeebus]

The innovation was going *away* from a pen, IMO. Can't stop thinking about Palm Pilot when I see one of those.
But it's innovative now that it's on the Samsung!

[ElNono]

I owned one.:lol The Palm Pilot can't carry the spen's jock.

Software-wise, you're a million years ahead, obviously. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Yeah, it's the associated apps that are really well done.

[leemajors]

Yeah, it's the associated apps that are really well done.

any third party ones that work well?

[Cry Havoc]

The innovation was going *away* from a pen, IMO. Can't stop thinking about Palm Pilot when I see one of those.

Maybe. I think not needing a pen is nice but having it for situations when precision is required is the best of both worlds.

[TeyshaBlue]

any third party ones that work well?
When I'm running custom roms, Papyrus is pretty good. I'm currently running a touchwiz rom and flashed the spen stuff back on it. The Sammy apps are pretty stout.

[ElNono]

Maybe. I think not needing a pen is nice but having it for situations when precision is required is the best of both worlds.

I'm not arguing there's anything wrong with having a pen. You can even buy one of those for iPhones/iPads. There's simply nothing novel or "innovative" about it.

That was the standard since the Palm Pilot days, and what you see today is just an evolution of that. Innovative was multi-touch and gestures that let you actually use the devices fully *without* a pen (if you were a palm pilot user, you know exactly what I mean :lol)

[anakha]

That's why I love the Galaxy Note. It's their flagship model that hasn't been bastardized ...... yet. I hope they keep the Note to one segment and that is for everyone who wants to have a premium phone that they could be proud of.

You're not going to be pleased with Samsung's approach, then.

It seems that they're rebranding the Note as their high-end tablet line, considering the Note 8.0 that came out this year and Note 10.1 refresh everybody's expecting.

Their Galaxy Tab line used to be their high-end tablet products, but the specs of the 3.0 Tabs that came out this year imply they're rebranding these as lower-cost products. The impact of the Nexus 7 line being the best quality tablets at relatively low prices is what probably caused this change in approach.

[Cry Havoc]

You're not going to be pleased with Samsung's approach, then.

It seems that they're rebranding the Note as their high-end tablet line, considering the Note 8.0 that came out this year and Note 10.1 refresh everybody's expecting.

Their Galaxy Tab line used to be their high-end tablet products, but the specs of the 3.0 Tabs that came out this year imply they're rebranding these as lower-cost products. The impact of the Nexus 7 line being the best quality tablets at relatively low prices is what probably caused this change in approach.

Side note (pun intended), the "Note" is the worst fucking device name ever for a line of premium tech products. Da fuck were they thinking?

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm not arguing there's anything wrong with having a pen. You can even buy one of those for iPhones/iPads. There's simply nothing novel or "innovative" about it.
)

yeah but those stylus's from what i've seen just mimmick a finger. I read that jobbs said it would be a failure if the iphone ended up using a pen. But, it I think it was kinda flawed, there is a difference between using a stylus as a tool to navigate everyithing and using it as an accessory to streamline the experience. Is it innovative to bring a stylus back? No. It's just one of those things that make common sense and should have been done earlier.

[ElNono]

yeah but those stylus's from what i've seen just mimmick a finger. I read that jobbs said it would be a failure if the iphone ended up using a pen. But, it I think it was kinda flawed, there is a difference between using a stylus as a tool to navigate everyithing and using it as an accessory to streamline the experience. Is it innovative to bring a stylus back? No. It's just one of those things that make common sense and should have been done earlier.

That was all I was saying. I have no beef with the stylus. If you used pressure-sensitive styluses on Wacom tablets (who created that and holds most of the patents), you know they're great for that kind of stuff.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so what happens to all the fingerprint data they collect? sell to NSA? and put you on the criminal database just for future references?

lol one world govt coming sooner then expected

[leemajors]

so what happens to all the fingerprint data they collect? sell to NSA? and put you on the criminal database just for future references?

lol one world govt coming sooner then expected

There are plenty of articles and statements from Apple that state the fingerprint data never leaves a secure area the device, if you had bothered to look, or think.

[jeebus]

so what happens to all the fingerprint data they collect? sell to NSA? and put you on the criminal database just for future references?

lol one world govt coming sooner then expected
so apple is going to break into my house and steal my iphone to get my fingerprint from my phone, which will start a one world government being run by the NSA?

[TheMACHINE]

I'm not arguing there's anything wrong with having a pen. You can even buy one of those for iPhones/iPads. There's simply nothing novel or "innovative" about it.

That was the standard since the Palm Pilot days, and what you see today is just an evolution of that. Innovative was multi-touch and gestures that let you actually use the devices fully *without* a pen (if you were a palm pilot user, you know exactly what I mean :lol)

I have a note 2 and its not just a "pen" it does have controls on it where i can highlight things and copy and paste etc...its not just one of them stylus's u can order from amazon for 1 buck and use on an iphone.

[ElNono]

I have a note 2 and its not just a "pen" it does have controls on it where i can highlight things and copy and paste etc...its not just one of them stylus's u can order from amazon for 1 buck and use on an iphone.

Nobody said $1 styluses... the SPen is a bluetooth pressure-sensitive pen with a button. Just like Pogo Connect ($80), Jot Touch 4 ($90), Wacom Intuos ($99), etc.

[TheMACHINE]

I'm not arguing there's anything wrong with having a pen. You can even buy one of those for iPhones/iPads. There's simply nothing novel or "innovative" about it.

[ElNono]

^ Exactly

What's innovative about the pen? The "highlight" and "copy & paste" is all software, which is exactly what I pointed out to Teysha. If Palm Pilot would be around today, that's exactly what you would expect an evolution of it to look like.

[leemajors]

at 1AM Best Buy's site had In Store Pickup for the 5s as an option, reserved one. Woke up at 5AM for work and it was no longer an option... In store sales only. It does state my order cannot be canceled so we'll see if it works :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

^ Exactly

What's innovative about the pen? The "highlight" and "copy & paste" is all software, which is exactly what I pointed out to Teysha. If Palm Pilot would be around today, that's exactly what you would expect an evolution of it to look like.

Palm Pilot was innovative. Samsung, by returning this useful tool and developing the software, is innovating in a market that refused to do the same. lol highlight, copy&paste reduction. I annotate legal forms from home. I do all kinds of shit with maps and notes with them for visiting execs, writers and producers.
I'm doing zero of these things with the iPhone or virtually any android phone. It's Sammy's game and they own it.

[resistanze]

at 1AM Best Buy's site had In Store Pickup for the 5s as an option, reserved one. Woke up at 5AM for work and it was no longer an option... In store sales only. It does state my order cannot be canceled so we'll see if it works :lol

I hope you're trying to get a gold one.

[leemajors]

I hope you're trying to get a gold one.

nah, but it is ready for pickup. i doubt any third party stores had many of them tbh

[TheMACHINE]

There's a line of old people in front of the Verizon store...its like they are picking up thier social security checks or something.

[TheMACHINE]

^ Exactly

What's innovative about the pen? The "highlight" and "copy & paste" is all software, which is exactly what I pointed out to Teysha. If Palm Pilot would be around today, that's exactly what you would expect an evolution of it to look like.

Still dont really get your point..just a bunch of ifs and woulda coulda's. U still comparing a $1 stylus pen that has no technology that u can buy for iphones to a s-pen...and that's crazy.

[TeyshaBlue]

nah, but it is ready for pickup. i doubt any third party stores had many of them tbh

I was reading this morning that most Apple stores only had about 10 or less gold models in stock.

http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/my-iphone-5-buying-adventure/240161581

[leemajors]

fingerprint scanner works near instantly, pretty nice.

[TheMACHINE]

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1239531_10202325103952265_1749427668_n.jpg

[leemajors]

Best Buy also gave me $225 for my 4s with the non-working power button. They didn't even check it :tu

[TeyshaBlue]

Best Buy also gave me $225 for my 4s with the non-working power button. They didn't even check it :tu

Score!!!

[jeebus]

Best Buy also gave me $225 for my 4s with the non-working power button. They didn't even check it :tu

daaaang. that's a 16gb 5s right there, with 25 extra bucks to pick up 50 tacos from jack in the box

[leemajors]

daaaang. that's a 16gb 5s right there, with 25 extra bucks to pick up 50 tacos from jack in the box

my buddy has an IBM associate account from a while back and he gets yearly upgrades - his 32Gb White 5s is fetching him $360

[resistanze]

my buddy has an IBM associate account from a while back and he gets yearly upgrades - his 32Gb White 5s is fetching him $360

You mean iPhone 5? And is it through BB, because I would think an iPhone 5 could fetch $450 on ebay/CL/kijiji

[jeebus]

You mean iPhone 5? And is it through BB, because I would think an iPhone 5 could fetch $450 on ebay/CL/kijiji
I just did a quick look on there and saw most of the bidding around $400-500, with some lower and higher than that.

[lefty]

lol Apple blasting HTC's multitasking UI

lol stealing it

[leemajors]

lol Apple blasting HTC's multitasking UI

lol stealing it

more similar to webos

[lefty]

more similar to webos

True but it doesnt change the fact that Apple made fun of it, only to use something similar now and brag about it

[leemajors]

True but it doesnt change the fact that Apple made fun of it, only to use something similar now and brag about it

:cry

[lefty]

:cry
Still with Apple I guess :lmao

[leemajors]

Still with Apple I guess :lmao

Why would I switch? I get $225 for my two year old phones when I trade them in. You bitching about this shit is hilarious considering your past Android bashing tbh :lmao

[leemajors]

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/im-not-leaving-without-a-gold-one-tales-from-the-iphone-5s-line/#p3


Then, the bombshell. "I gotta have the gold one. I don't care. I don't waaaaaaaaant this stupid black iPhone!" she whined. "It's gonna make people think I'm a lesbian!"

[jeebus]

I never understood the bashing of other phones. I guess it's the latest rage for e penis rankings?

[lefty]

Lol

[resistanze]

I never understood the bashing of other phones. I guess it's the latest rage for e penis rankings?

All I know is my phone is bigger than yours, tbh

[lefty]

All I know is my phone is bigger than yours, tbh
:lol

[monosylab1k]

I never understood the bashing of other phones. I guess it's the latest rage for e penis rankings?

The "i had this barely useful feature on my phone six months before you did" is the new "i was into Random New Popular Faggy Rock Band years before they got played on the radio".

[anakha]

Pick what phone you feel is best for you is what I say. Better to have a metric fuckton of choices.

Although the number of choices went down by one after BlackBerry's news today. Too bad.

[leemajors]

Pick what phone you feel is best for you is what I say. Better to have a metric fuckton of choices.

Although the number of choices went down by one after BlackBerry's news today. Too bad.

Yeah that 5 incher is a desperate last stab. They just reacted to everything and got buried. If you like the phone, you like it.

[monosylab1k]

Pick what phone you feel is best for you is what I say. Better to have a metric fuckton of choices.

Although the number of choices went down by one after BlackBerry's news today. Too bad.

:tu its just irritates the fuck out of me to hear the faggots who think the only possible way you could prefer an iphone to any android phone is because you're a mindless sheep who follows the crowd, while also bragging about how android is more popular than apple now. I did my research, i've used both android and ios, and i still prefer iphones.

[anakha]

Blame human nature for that.

People want to both feel special yet be part of a bigger group. That translates itself to factionalism. Whether it's based on race, religion, or even music preferences, it's all reflective of that mentality.

Factionalism by mobile OS is pretty pathetic, when you think about it.

[ElNono]

Palm Pilot was innovative. Samsung, by returning this useful tool and developing the software, is innovating in a market that refused to do the same. lol highlight, copy&paste reduction. I annotate legal forms from home. I do all kinds of shit with maps and notes with them for visiting execs, writers and producers.
I'm doing zero of these things with the iPhone or virtually any android phone. It's Sammy's game and they own it.

You're confusing software innovation with hardware innovation. There was no "stylus for mobile device" before the Palm Pilot. Sammy simply *evolved* the concept, helped by the massive upgrade in processing you have on these things today.

You can annotate forms in pretty much any device too. If you want to do it with a stylus, cool beans :hat



Still dont really get your point..just a bunch of ifs and woulda coulda's. U still comparing a $1 stylus pen that has no technology that u can buy for iphones to a s-pen...and that's crazy.

Did you miss this post?


Nobody said $1 styluses... the SPen is a bluetooth pressure-sensitive pen with a button. Just like Pogo Connect ($80), Jot Touch 4 ($90), Wacom Intuos ($99), etc.

[ElNono]

Pick what phone you feel is best for you is what I say. Better to have a metric fuckton of choices.

Although the number of choices went down by one after BlackBerry's news today. Too bad.

lol Blackberry

[lefty]

lol Blackberry
Well 4500 people are losing their jobs

[jeebus]

All I know is my phone is bigger than yours, tbh

size doesn't matter :cry as long as you know how to use it :cry

:lol

[Suspect]

lol iSheep

[ElNono]

Well 4500 people are losing their jobs

CEO still getting his though...

[jeebus]

lol iSheep
http://img.pandawhale.com/61086-JLH-sexy-boobs-gif-client-list-NCTL.gif

[TeyshaBlue]

You're confusing software innovation with hardware innovation. There was no "stylus for mobile device" before the Palm Pilot. Sammy simply *evolved* the concept, helped by the massive upgrade in processing you have on these things today.

You can annotate forms in pretty much any device too. If you want to do it with a stylus, cool beans :hat




Did you miss this post?

I sign them.

[ElNono]

I sign them.

Probably the best usage for a stylus, tbh...

But you can do that on other platforms as well...

http://www.macworld.com/article/1166288/adobe_reader_for_ios_adds_signature_annotation_fea tures.html
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/signeasy-sign-fill-documents/id381786507?mt=8
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/signnow-sign-fill-pdf-word/id489262811?mt=8

[ElNono]

IMO, stylus are only going to be innovative when they come in gold color, tbh FWIW

[jeebus]

IMO, stylus are only going to be innovative when they come in gold color, tbh FWIW
I had a gold one with my nintendo ds imo, but it wasn't too innovative.

[ElNono]

Samsung sends spies to uncover Apple's iPhone line phenom (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57603876-94/samsung-sends-spies-to-uncover-apples-iphone-line-phenom/)

[leemajors]

Samsung sends spies to uncover Apple's iPhone line phenom (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57603876-94/samsung-sends-spies-to-uncover-apples-iphone-line-phenom/)

:lol I guess we can expect gold Galaxy's soon

[jeebus]

Samsung sends spies to uncover Apple's iPhone line phenom (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57603876-94/samsung-sends-spies-to-uncover-apples-iphone-line-phenom/)
lol samsung becoming iSheep

[anakha]

Gold Samsung phone with the garish Touchwiz colors... http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

[TDMVPDPOY]

why do you want a gold phone? u might as well go buy a vertu then u idiots

anyway would be sweet if nokia remade its banana phone...

[EmoHipstercan]

The "i had this barely useful feature on my phone six months before you did" is the new "i was into Random New Popular Faggy Rock Band years before they got played on the radio".

Fuck you.

[Heath Ledger]

Fuck the Iphone. My s4 is a Boss.

[leemajors]

Anandtech benches for A7:

(linked straight to benchmarks on page 3:)

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/review-with-the-iphone-5s-apple-lays-groundwork-for-a-brighter-future/3/

[leemajors]

Gold Samsung phone with the garish Touchwiz colors... http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4769086/samsung-counters-iphone-5s-with-a-golden-galaxy-s4

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVADnCTCUAAJBkV.jpg

[jeebus]

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4769086/samsung-counters-iphone-5s-with-a-golden-galaxy-s4

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVADnCTCUAAJBkV.jpg
crofl iSheep. following anything that apple does. puh. theh. tick.

[TDMVPDPOY]

gold plated does not mean ur fkn phone is 24carrat gold like the vertus....