Another mass shooting at Wisconsin

[Venti Quattro]

Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin (http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-oak-creek-sikh-temple-milwaukee-oak-creek/story?id=16933779#.UB6x5Pbia8o)

A mass shooting has occurred at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisc., just outside Milwaukee.

At least four people have been reported injured in the mass shooting and no suspect has been identified. Hospitals in the area were told to be ready for up to 20 shooting victims, according to police radio reports.

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, a SWAT team entered the temple after the shooting and evacuated the uninjured members.

Among those shot was the president of the temple, the Journal Sentinel reported.

The incident reportedly occurred around 10:45 a.m. at the temple, where people were gathering for a morning service.

According to information broadcast over police radio, a witness to the shooting told law enforcement the shooter was a white male, bald, with a heavy build. He was wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, according to Oak Creek Patch. He was last seen with two handguns.

A spokeswoman for Froedert Hospital, the main trauma center in the Milwaukee area, said that two men were taken there and the hospital was ready to receive more.

There are more than a dozen ambulances parked outside the temple, and police moved media and a handful of bystanders to an area near the temple.

Oak Creek police have not released any information yet on the shooting.

Why the fuck does this shit continue happening...

[TE]

Damn...

[Woo Bum-kon]

Fucking amateurs.

[leemajors]

I'm gonna take a guess he was a Christian.

[Proxy]

here's a copy and paste from the reddit thread
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/xpvsj/reports_of_8_to_20_people_injured_in_shooting_at/


NEWS TO DATE 4 suspected dead with 8-30 people injured. Currently a hostage situation with negociations ongoing. Nothing has been comfirmed as of 12:40 PM LOCAL TIME
[11:57 PM] Scene at Oak Creek Sikh Temple shootings is described as chaos.
[12:09 PM] Live updates from racineuncovered.org
11:19 a.m. – There are still allegedly 15-20 citizens inside the church, witnesses report there are injured parties, unable to contact people inside at this time.
11:26 a.m. – Reports state that the FBI is involved now, they are contacting all churches in the area to warn them, appears the suspect is still on the large, Flight for Life staging on Hwy 38.
11:36 a.m. – Reports are now saying up to 20 people could be shot and injured at this time. 11:39 a.m. – Family members are beginning to arrive on scene.
11:47 a.m. – Call has been upgrade to a SMART response, all available officers are being called in. SWAT TEAM was called in earlier along with K9 units, armored vehicles are on scene too along with FBI agents. Racine County Sheriff’s is also en route.
12:06 p.m. – Initial reports are coming in stating that up to 4 parties could be dead they are located in the parking lot(channel 4), officer that was shot during an exchange of gunfire should be ok.
[12:13 PM] Police scanner: "UPDATE: MULTIPLE VICS STILL INSIDE WITH SHOOTER."
[12:17 PM] 620 WTMJ are reporting at least 4 people are dead. Police have not confirmed reports
[12:18 PM] Hospitals near Oak Creek, WI told to expect 8-20 victims
[12:25 PM] Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter Karen Herzog @HerzogJS has live updates
SWAT team preparing to go inside temple now. Children hostages in basement
Two shooters possibly still inside with children as hostages, according to texter
Head priest locked inside bathroom with cell phone as an estimated 20 to 30 victims in temple. Ambulances waiting
[12:30 PM] Another photo from the scene. [SFW]
[12:32 PM] 12 children being held hostage.
[12.34 PM] reports that SWAT are entering the building.
[12:38 PM] @AdityaRajKaul reports: "President of the Sikh Gurudwara confirmed to be shot, according to local reporters."
[12:43 PM] @Dan O'Donnell Very little confirmed on scene of #templeshooting right now but witnesses have been getting texts from inside what is now hostage situation.
[12:51 PM] @AdityaRajKaul reports: Confirmation of children inside Sikh Gurudwara who're still trying to hide from the suspect gunmen. Ambulances on stand by.
[12:53 PM] Live coverage from WISN 12 in Milwaukee tks @rlg
[13:01 PM] jsonline.com reports: As of about 12:30 p.m., the Milwaukee County Medical Examiner's Office said it had not been called to the scene.
[13:08 PM] Police Chief says, "One officer shot multiple times. One suspect shot and down on the scene". Next briefing 1:30 local time.
[13:14 PM] St. Luke's Hospital on Milwaukee's south side issues standby alert for mass casualties.

[TE]

:wow

[TE]

I hope this doesn't become another gun thread.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I really wish it was easier to get a concealed carry permit here in CA.

[Trill Clinton]

RIP to the victims and my thoughts are with their families

[Bill_Brasky]

Wow. RIP to the innocents, this is really a bad day and a reflection of how idiotic and ignorant our culture really has become.

[clambake]

i'm guessing its a rivalry between 7-11's.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

I'm gonna take a guess he was a Christian.

I'm going to guess he was a complete idiot, and didn't know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.

[pawe]

I hope this doesn't become another gun thread.

I hope groups from both sides stop using tragedies like these for gun agendas.
Rip victims.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm going to guess he was a complete idiot, and didn't know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.
This.

I'm willing to bet this is someone who's been fear mongered to death about the "Muslim Brotherhood" by neocons like Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, etc. and thought he was attacking a place where they congregate.

[johnsmith]

This.

I'm willing to bet this is someone who's been fear mongered to death about the "Muslim Brotherhood" by neocons like Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, etc. and thought he was attacking a place where they congregate.

Well, at least you're above all that "political talk" right after a shooting.

[lefty]

i'm guessing its a rivalry between 7-11's.
:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Well, at least you're above all that "political talk" right after a shooting.
Who said I was?

[Spursfan092120]

I hope this doesn't become another gun thread.


I'm gonna take a guess he was a Christian.


No...they're too busy trying to make it a religion thread. Isn't it possible it was just some stupid ass insane person?

[AussieFanKurt]

Rip

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No...they're too busy trying to make it a religion thread. Isn't it possible it was just some stupid ass insane person?
Yeah...


It was a stupid ass insane person who thought he was killing a bunch of Muslims and did so because politicians like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum had convinced him that there's "Muslim Brotherhood" colluding to destroy America.

[lakerhaterade]

Rip

Only in America right?

[leemajors]

Yeah...


It was a stupid ass insane person who thought he was killing a bunch of Muslims and did so because politicians like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum had convinced him that there's "Muslim Brotherhood" colluding to destroy America.

Likely, either way it's sad.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Sikh's are warriors, that's prob why noone reported dead yet

[Proxy]

an american terrorist

[mavs>spurs]

Why the fuck does this shit continue happening...

more false flags to take guns. they will not stop until they take our guns or there is an uprising.

this kind of thing didn't happen for hundreds of years outside of rare instances. ONLY now is it becoming an issue.

[mavs>spurs]

it's no coincidence that there is a UN gun grab treaty headed for the senate and now suddenly everyone is getting shot the fuck up. outside the UN headquarters is a statue of a pistol with the barrel tied in a knot..it's right there in their charter that their goal is total worldwide civilian disarmament.

[SA210]

more false flags to take guns. they will not stop until they take our guns or there is an uprising.

this kind of thing didn't happen for hundreds of years outside of rare instances. ONLY now is it becoming an issue.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

O cool we didn't even reach page 2 till the Alex Jones brigade posts about how this shooting is a government conspiracy

[leemajors]

more false flags to take guns. they will not stop until they take our guns or there is an uprising.

this kind of thing didn't happen for hundreds of years outside of rare instances. ONLY now is it becoming an issue.

Tbh you made a very pro gun control post braj. Only recently have they been readily available for public purchase

[Spurminator]

Yes it's all part of a conspiracy to take away our guns by staging events that inevitably lead to a spike in gun sales. Our conspirators are smart people, good thing you geniuses have it all figured out.

[Edward]

They're staging these events that result in 7-12 dead people because they want to impose martial law!

Thank god for Alex Jones calling them out on this. He's the one preventing martial law from happening.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hope groups from both sides stop using tragedies like these for gun agendas.
Rip victims.


more false flags to take guns. they will not stop until they take our guns or there is an uprising.

this kind of thing didn't happen for hundreds of years outside of rare instances. ONLY now is it becoming an issue.


it's no coincidence that there is a UN gun grab treaty headed for the senate and now suddenly everyone is getting shot the fuck up. outside the UN headquarters is a statue of a pistol with the barrel tied in a knot..it's right there in their charter that their goal is total worldwide civilian disarmament.

No one brought up gun control but you guys.

I do love the preemptive complaints and false umbrage.

[AussieFanKurt]

I was about to say.. queue the conspiracy theorists but I've been beated to it

[SA210]

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[leemajors]

lol infowars

[SA210]

lol infowars

Doesn't change what the guy on the news said. But thanks for playing.




"4 white males in black clothing"

[leemajors]

Doesn't change what the guy on the news said. But thanks for playing.




"4 white males in black clothing"

Why doesn't he just let the clip play instead of playing the same sound byte over and over? It would be a lot more effective. No one wants to hear this (quasi?)Brit talk

[SA210]

Why doesn't he just let the clip play instead of playing the same sound byte over and over? It would be a lot more effective. No one wants to hear this (quasi?)Brit talk

Whether you wanted to hear a Brit talk or not, the fact remains..the guy said "4 white males in black clothing came in and opened fire".

You can say and twist anything you want, but that's pretty simple to understand. "4 white males in black clothing came in and opened fire"

I think I'll go for my jog now. Have fun

[SA210]

Whether you wanted to hear a Brit talk or not, the fact remains..the guy said "4 white males in black clothing came in and opened fire".

You can say and twist anything you want, but that's pretty simple to understand. "4 white males in black clothing came in and opened fire"

I think I'll go for my jog now. Have fun

What do you know, another guy talking about multiple shooters

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[leemajors]

Eyewitnesses are notoriously reliable, dude. Are you a total dope?

[Woo Bum-kon]

Everything is a conspiracy!

[leemajors]

Everything is a conspiracy!

If Spielberg directed this I would believe it!

[AussieFanKurt]

Everything is a conspiracy!

Cosmored thinks this

[SA210]

Eyewitnesses are notoriously reliable, dude. Are you a total dope?

Yea eyewitnesses, we don't ever need them :lmao

[SA210]

Everything is a conspiracy!

No, not really. Take the tinfoil hat off.


:downspin:

[SA210]

A11R6v5-iHs

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah...


It was a stupid ass insane person who thought he was killing a bunch of Muslims and did so because politicians like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum had convinced him that there's "Muslim Brotherhood" colluding to destroy America.
This.... I'd like to think this country can take this opportunity to step back and realize how crazy our foreign policy is.... but no, the Islamophobia will continue, tbh....

[AussieFanKurt]

Yeah...


It was a stupid ass insane person who thought he was killing a bunch of Muslims and did so because politicians like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum had convinced him that there's "Muslim Brotherhood" colluding to destroy America.

While probably a slight over exaggeration I can't help but think this is somewhat true as well

[mavs>spurs]

yeah guys lets ignore the fact that the people who were there say there were 4 shooters. You just don't make that stuff up. eyewitness testimonies aren't reliable if you ask a minor detail lke what color shirt the shooters were wearing, but anyone can count.

[SA210]

"One gunman is down, there is 3 left"

ZQheToQbi1c

[mavs>spurs]

with things like operation northwood now public knowledge and it being proven that the govt will lie and kill people for political reasons, anyone acting like they got a damn clue what for sure happened on any given event is kidding themselves. what, you think they'd tell you the truth? we didn't find out that the bay of pigs was fake for like 50 years.

[SA210]

They can't process that kind of information, it would take work and make them feel uncomfortable lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

This.... I'd like to think this country can take this opportunity to step back and realize how crazy our foreign policy is.... but no, the Islamophobia will continue, tbh....
Once again the only TRUE Libertarian on this site recognizes what the problem is here.

A senator who at one point was a favorite to win the Republican nomination as a presidential candidate calling out respected Americans as members of the "Muslim Brotherhood". It's the "red scare" all over again only more radical and insane.

Yet we have self-proclaimed Libertarians in this thread thinking the real problem is the government ultimately using a random shooting that killed 7 people to invoke martial law because Alex Jones said so :lol

God bless.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Sooooo how exactly does the fact there was > 1 shooter mean this is a government conspiracy to take guns away?

[Clipper Nation]

No, not really. Take the tinfoil hat off.


:downspin:
Irony, tbh.... you don't need Alex Jones to tell you that the only conspiracy here is politicians trying to incite fear and hatred against Muslims so that they can continue their warmongering abroad.....

What happened here was at least one nutjob trying to take the war into his own hands, which should make us all think about not only the perception of Muslims in this country but also the effects of our out-of-control foreign policy, tbh.... when you get to the point of a United States senator smearing innocent people by accusing them of being part of the Muslim Brotherhood, it's time to wrap up this nonsense and greatly pare back our presence abroad....

[johnsmith]

Who said I was?

You win this round sir.

:toast

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Irony, tbh.... you don't need Alex Jones to tell you that the only conspiracy here is politicians trying to incite fear and hatred against Muslims so that they can continue their warmongering abroad.....

What happened here was at least one nutjob trying to take the war into his own hands, which should make us all think about not only the perception of Muslims in this country but also the effects of our out-of-control foreign policy, tbh.... when you get to the point of a United States senator smearing innocent people by accusing them of being part of the Muslim Brotherhood, it's time to wrap up this nonsense and greatly pare back our presence abroad....
Not only smearing innocent people, but a middle eastern woman who's married to and had a kid with a Jew :lmao

I'm pretty sure that whatever "Muslim brotherhood" there is to speak of, it doesn't allow members who marry Jews and bare Jewish kids :lol

[Drachen]

Idiot probably thought he was targeting muslims.

Idiot.

[Trill Clinton]

no surprise, i think we all knew a crazy ass cracka was behind this.








Who is Wade Michael Page, accused Sikh killer?



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By John Bacon (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/reporter/John+Bacon), USA TODAY
Updated 7m ago


The man who fatally shot six people at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin was identified today as Army veteran Wade Michael Page, 40, who washed out of the military in 1998 after a six-year hitch.
The Southern Poverty Law Center (http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/06/bulletin-alleged-sikh-temple-shooter-member-of-neo-nazi-group/), a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, says on its website that Page was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band known as End Apathy.
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By M. Spencer Green, AP



Heidi Beirich, director of the center's intelligence project, tells the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-wade-page-was-army-vet-white-supremacist-856cn28-165123946.html) that her group had been tracking Page since 2000, when he tried to purchase goods from the National Alliance, a well-known hate group.Beirich says there was "no question" Page was an ardent follower and believer in the white supremacist movement. She said her center had evidence that he attended "hate events" around the country.
"He was involved in the scene," she said.
Page enlisted in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. CBS reports (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-identified-as-wade-michael-page-motivation-unclear/) that Page served at Fort Bliss, Texas, in the psychological operations unit in 1994, and was last stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., attached to the psychological operations there.
The Associated Press reports that such specialists are responsible for the analysis, development and distribution of intelligence used for influencing foreign populations.
The New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/gunman_id_in_wis_sikh_temple_shooting_BviRraaDAtLN TDwOxSnMfI) reports that Page was a Hawk missile system repair specialist before moving on to psychological operations.
The details of his discharge were not immediately clear, although CNN says a military source cites "patterns of misconduct."
The Journal Sentinel reports that Page apparently worked as a truck driver with Granger, Iowa-based Barr-Nunn Transportation, from about April 2006 to August 2010 while living in Fayetteville, N.C.
An employee at the company told the newspaper that Page left "involuntarily"" but declined to elaborate.
The only criminal contact it had on Page was a charge of writing a worthless check in October 1997, the Journal Sentinel reports.
In Cudahy, Amber Young, 14, said she saw the suspect walking his black Labrador on several occasions and that Page had a 9/11 tattoo on his upper right arm.
The tattoo said, "9/11" and "had a bunch of descriptions and stuff," Young tells the paper.
Wade was killed outside the temple in a shootout with police officers after the rampage. CBS, citing unnamed sources, says evidence suggests race or ethnicity may have played a role in the violence, but no links to extremist groups have been confirmed.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

no surprise, i think we all knew a crazy ass cracka was behind this.
No surprise he was ex-military

:lol army
:lol naturally draws the clinically insane and fucked up

[Trill Clinton]

No surprise he was ex-military

:lol army
:lol naturally draws the clinically insane and fucked up

yea shits fucked up. dude had a less than honorable discharge. crazy how the military equips these psychos with the tools and training to kill.


off topic- is that mouse with him in the pic?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao that other guy does look like mouse. Maybe they were at a meeting for veterans who had gone bat-shit.

The 9/11 tattoo and neo-nazi background points directly at the notion this was an ignorant moron who thought he was shooting up a Mosque full of Muslims. Not the first crime committed against Sihks by someone who thought they were Muslim.

[Trill Clinton]

yup...he most def thought they were muslims lolsmh. dummy. sikhs have had it pretty bad since 9/11.

[Pelicans78]

What's up with these white folks lately.

They need to have a place for these guys like they do for A-rabs in Guantanamo Bay. Fuck if know where. I'm sure the U.S has bases in filthy places. I think Uzbekistan seems reasonable.

[Pelicans78]

People should realize that Sikhs where the colorful turbans, sunni muslims wear the white turbans, and Shiites wear the black turbans.

Surprised no retaliations from the Sikhs. They used to be the badasses in India who the Hindus used to fight off the Muslims. That one billionaire Sikh dude in Canada once had a Air India plane blown up in retaliation after the Indian government attacked a Sikh temple.

[Drachen]

What's up with these white folks lately.

They need to have a place for these guys like they do for A-rabs in Guantanamo Bay. Fuck if know where. I'm sure the U.S has bases in filthy places. I think Uzbekistan seems reasonable.

Send this particular one to india....


People should realize that Sikhs where the colorful turbans, sunni muslims wear the white turbans, and Shiites wear the black turbans.



Is daler mehndi a Sikh?
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[Bill_Brasky]

Wheres da_suns_fan??

[cantthinkofanything]

People should realize that Sikhs where the colorful turbans, sunni muslims wear the white turbans, and Shiites wear the black turbans.


Shiites wear black or white turbans. And sometimes even green.
Sikhs wear many colors including black and white and green
Sunnis almost always wear white

so...

[Spurminator]

Joplin Mosque Razed in Fire; 2nd Blaze This Summer

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/joplin-mosque-razed-fire-2nd-blaze-summer-16939825#.UCAQRfZmQXJ

A mosque in southwest Missouri burned to the ground early Monday in the second fire to hit the Islamic center in little more than a month, officials said.

The fire at the Islamic Society of Joplin was reported about 3:30 a.m. Monday, the Jasper County Sheriff's Office said. The sheriff's department said the building was a total loss. No injuries were reported and no charges have been filed.

Imam Lahmuddin, who leads the mosque and was in the building until late Sunday, said he was "sad and shocked" about the fire.

"I'm still in front of the building looking at the damage and nothing can be saved," Lahmuddin said in a telephone interview Monday. "But since we are people of faith we just can remember that this is a thing that happened because God let it happen, and we have to be patient, particularly in the month of Ramadan, control our emotions, our anger."

A blaze at the same building July 4 caused minor damage and was determined arson. No arrests were made and the FBI has offered a $15,000 reward for information leading to charges in that fire.

The agency released video footage of what appeared to be a man starting the July blaze that did not cause extensive damage. Sharon Rhine, spokeswoman for the sheriff's office, said the center's security cameras were burned in the Monday fire.

The FBI is investigating the cause of the latest fire and whether or not it was also the result of arson, said agency spokeswoman Bridgett Patton.

A Washington-based Muslim civil rights organization meanwhile called for more police protection at mosques and other houses of worship following the Joplin fire and a deadly attack at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. The Council on American-Islamic Relations also offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of whoever started the mosque fire.

About 50 families belong to the Islamic Society of Joplin, which opened in 2007 as a mosque and community center. The FBI led an investigation in 2008 when the mosque's sign was torched. That crime also remained unsolved.

Lahmuddin, who has lived in Joplin for about four years, said several people were at the center late Sunday. He said despite the attacks, the center's members have good relationships with residents and other churches. He said many are doctors at area hospitals.

On Sunday, a gunman killed six people at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee. The imam said it was a cause of great concern that both faiths had seemingly come under attack.

"I heard that yesterday, and this morning we see this happen in our place," he said. "We are more fortunate that no one here got hurt in this incident."

[leemajors]

ugh.

[Pelicans78]

How much you wanna bet that the guy who burned the mosque down yelled "Go Chiefs!" while doing it.

Guarantee this was another white dude who supports the military and is a Chiefs fan.

[mavs>spurs]

gun rights, baptist

No need to lump these 2 in with those other assholes, brah.

[DMC]

How much you wanna bet that the guy who burned the mosque down yelled "Go Chiefs!" while doing it.

Guarantee this was another white dude who supports the military, gun rights, baptist, and is a Chiefs fan.
So are you implying that people who's minds are easily coerced would do something extreme?

Do you think he supported the 1st Amendment and drove a gas powered vehicle? Could that also be connected?

[Pelicans78]

No need to lump these 2 in with those other assholes, brah.

That's true. I'll take out of my post.

But he probably was a Chiefs fan who drove a camaro.

[Pelicans78]

So are you implying that people who's minds are easily coerced would do something extreme?

Do you think he supported the 1st Amendment and drove a gas powered vehicle? Could that also be connected?

He did drive a camaro.

[howbouthemspurs]

Great, another white supremacist idiot who had to prove his hate. I bet he ate at Chick-Fil-A before the shooting. Typical.

[mingus]

Probably an Islamophobic motivated killing spree. What crazy, intolerant bastard.