Obama's conspiracy to take guns away has backfired: Why do you think it did?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Several prominent political forum posters have, over recent years, said Obama and the "globalists" are plotting to take guns away from Americans so they can successfully turn America into a police state. Prominent radio talk show host Alex Jones has also warned us about this. Fortunately, his attempts to take guns away have largely failed.

Lets have a look at what has happened with guns during Obama's presidency, shall we!

Here are some facts about guns during Obama's presidency:


In 2009, Obama's first year as president, 5.5 million firearms were produced, 1 million more than in 2008, and the highest total since 1986.
In 2009, Obama signed a bill allowing gun owners to carry concealed weapons into national parks, drawing criticism from the left
Both Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger & Co. have seen an exponential increase in share price during Obama's presidency.
Following the Aurora shooting, requests to buy firearms spiked in Colorado
The links that provided this information can be found here, for those who don't believe me:
http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/23/10797851-gun-sales-soaring-boosted-by-gun-laws-concerns-about-obama?lite
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-24/gun-sales-increase-in-colorado-after-12-killed-in-movie-theater.html



In summary, since Obama took office, Gun manufacturers and retailers have flourished, the amount of guns owned by Americans has skyrocketed, gun laws in this country are looser than they have ever been with 49 states allowing a carry permit, and Obama has yet to take any action to restrict gun ownership.

So I ask this, seeing how Obama's conspiracy to get rid of gun ownership in America has not only been ineffective but has led to looser gun laws and higher gun ownership than ever before, what do you think?

Here are the 3 options that came to mind:

Option A) Do you think he's trying to lull us to sleep so he can get re-elected and then restrict gun ownership the next 4 years, but failed to do so because Alex Jones has raied awareness about the globalists' plan to take away guns?

Option B) Do you think Obama is just a completely inept moron who tried to take guns away but failed?

Option C) I'll admit, this one might be farfetched, but do you think Obama is really telling the truth when he says he plans to make no change to gun laws and is OK with gun ownership the way it currently is?


I think Option A. Tell me what you think.

Praise Alex.

[Oh, Gee!!]

but he said that one thing that one time about how white people are angry and cling to their guns because because they hate the black people and it's his calling to melt down all the guns and make braces for poor muslim kids of the inner city by raising my taxes 75%

[ChumpDumper]

I think he owns a lot of stock in gun and ammo companies and is making out like a bandit.

[ElNono]

but he said that one thing that one time about how white people are angry and cling to their guns because because they hate the black people and it's his calling to melt down all the guns and make braces for poor muslim kids of the inner city by raising my taxes 75%

this

[CosmicCowboy]

I think he is just as incompetent in taking our guns away as he is as a President.

[coyotes_geek]

Obama's a closet republican TBQH.....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think he owns a lot of stock in gun and ammo companies and is making out like a bandit.

Good point!

I think those companies are secretly owned by the government and producing dysfunctional guns so when the government invokes martial law, the resistance militia led by Alex Jones will be defeated quickly.

Praise Alex.

[ChumpDumper]

I think he is just as incompetent in taking our guns away as he is as a President.Or he just doesn't want to.

[boutons_deux]

"conspiracy to get rid of gun ownership in America has not only been ineffective"

The conspiracy was a guns&ammo industry paranoia/scam trumpeted by their PR/marketing department, aka NRA, which was also aided and abetted in the scam by the right-wing hate media inventing other paranoid conspiracies, such as "sharia/Muslims invading, taking over America", etc, etc.

[angrydude]

He's been pretty successful at taking away our civil liberties

[ChumpDumper]

He's been pretty successful at taking away our civil libertiesWhich ones did he take from you?

[redzero]

"conspiracy to get rid of gun ownership in America has not only been ineffective"

The conspiracy was a guns&ammo industry paranoia/scam trumpeted by their PR/marketing department, aka NRA, which was also aided and abetted in the scam by the right-wing hate media inventing other paranoid conspiracies, such as "sharia/Muslims invading, taking over America", etc, etc.

You suck. Stop posting.

[boutons_deux]

You suck. Stop posting.

I bitch slapped you real good, huh, cocksucker?

[mercos]

Its clearly option A. His avoidance of the gun issue, and in fact expanding gun rights is all a ruse to get re-elected. Once safely tucked into his second term, President Obama will take away everyone's guns and give them to the terrorists he pals around with like Bill Ayers. He will then lead a left wing revolution that will consume America and turn it into Cuba. An Islamic Cuba!

[boutons_deux]

He's been pretty successful at taking away our civil liberties

He could have tried to stop the NSA/FBI/CIA/miliatarized police raping our expectations of privacy (the corps already been doing it for many years), but do you think he, or Gecko, or any President could have stopped the NatSec paranoia resulting from 9/11?

Serious people know damn well dubya and dickhead allowed, by their organizational disinterest in terrorism and profound incompetence, 9/11 to happen, and got away with it.

Now, NOBODY wants any such disaster to happen on their watch, and that stance is well below whoever is in the WH.

Do any of you think a Pres Gecko will stop the NatSec juggernaut, or give us back our reasonable rights to privacy?

[redzero]

I bitch slapped you real good, huh, cocksucker?

How? By making shitty puns and nicknames in all your posts?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Prominent radio talk show host Alex Jones has also warned us about this.

Personally, I find George Noory to be a much more compelling AM radio host. He doesn't even hold a candle to Art Bell.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Its clearly option A. His avoidance of the gun issue, and in fact expanding gun rights is all a ruse to get re-elected. Once safely tucked into his second term, President Obama will take away everyone's guns and give them to the terrorists he pals around with like Bill Ayers. He will then lead a left wing revolution that will consume America and turn it into Cuba. An Islamic Cuba!
Pretty much sums it up.

George Orwell warned us about this in his book 1984.

[TDMVPDPOY]

problem is there is too many stake holders that can influence an election that is too big to fail...

eg..gun lobby groups
gambing industry
wall street

not much u can try and regulate

[Pelicans78]

To be honest, I'm going with Option B.

Wouldn't surprise me if he wants to take away guns, but can't do it just like he can't do anything else.

[angrydude]

Do any of you think a Pres Gecko will stop the NatSec juggernaut, or give us back our reasonable rights to privacy?

no

[angrydude]

Which ones did he take from you?

What a stupid comment.

You know, if you lived in China, you wouldn't feel oppressed on a day to day basis either...but you would be.

[ChumpDumper]

What a stupid comment.

You know, if you lived in China, you wouldn't feel oppressed on a day to day basis either...but you would be.So your answer is none.

OK, which civil liberties has he taken away?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What a stupid comment.

It wasn't a comment, it was a simple question.


I'm also curious as to what your answer to it is.

[SnakeBoy]

Prominent radio talk show host Alex Jones

Prominent :lol

[Yonivore]

Prominent :lol
Did someone really say that with a straight face? :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Alex J:lolnes

I have no doubt that there's plenty of politicians who would like to ban all guns, but it will never happen, as gun lobbies are too powerful.... kind of a gross reason why, as I wish it was because our elected officials were too faithful to the Constitution to undermine an extremely important amendment, but I'll take what I can get, tbh....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Prominent :lol
Do you know he gets millions of listeners every week?

I'd say anyone who doesn't consider Alex Jones a prominent radio talk show host is a msm sheep

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do you know he gets millions of listeners every week?

I'd say anyone who doesn't consider Alex Jones a prominent radio talk show host is a msm sheep

What does people listening to him matter? People listen to all sort of nonsense all the time. It does not even imply those that listen to him believe him.

He gets attention, bravo. So does George Noory.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What does people listening to him matter? People listen to all sort of nonsense all the time. It does not even imply those that listen to him believe him.

He gets attention, bravo. So does George Noory.
You are a Liberal mainstream media sheep. The globalist agenda suppresses Alex Jones and makes him seem less prominent than he is.

I didn't think people would actually think me calling Alex Jones prominent was serious, so I'm putting this in white text so when I eventually get bored by continuing to pretend I seriously think Alex Jones is a prominent journalist and reveal the fact I'm trolling, people don't call me out and accuse me of saying I'm trolling because they "owned" me. God bless.

[ChumpDumper]

Prominent? Maybe.

Hilarious? Definitely.

[Jacob1983]

People who think he is trying to take their guns away are the same type of people that think he is a Muslim and was born in Africa. I also wouldn't be surprised if they think he is the fuckin' anti-Christ. If only people could see the truth about Obama which is he is Bush. Obama has almost completed a 3rd term of Bush. He will probably win a 4th term of Bush in November. God bless.

[Latarian Milton]

People who think he is trying to take their guns away are the same type of people that think he is a Muslim and was born in Africa. I also wouldn't be surprised if they think he is the fuckin' anti-Christ. If only people could see the truth about Obama which is he is Bush. Obama has almost completed a 3rd term of Bush. He will probably win a 4th term of Bush in November. God bless.

sorry but we don't speak code, try again. welcome to the earth though

[Latarian Milton]

or option D) the president has a quixotic plan to fix the whole shit once and for all, and like it usually is, all his efforts end up working the opposite way

[DMC]

The purchases and requests to purchase will always spike after a well publicized event involving shootings. They will also spike when gun laws are proposed in Congress (people trying to get ahead of the game). The largest purchase of high capacity magazines happens when their manufacturing is listed for restriction. Congress often will not prevent a retailer from selling what he has already purchased, but will only prevent manufacturers from continuing to make those magazines, so anything already purchased from a manufacturer suddenly increases in price and sells out overnight.

Long term, it would have an impact, but that would take 20+ years, i think. The newer generation that wasn't allowed to easily purchase handguns or high capacity magazines would get away from the concept of seeing them in the home all the time. After about 40 years, it would become something similar to what Australia has. It would take that long because, unlike Australia, the US was founded and developed by use of force, and carrying a firearm is a right of passage.

[DMC]

Also, people need to understand that congress and the USSC has the power to effect change. The President has individual power, but can only propose change. Veto is a huge power, but there's no opposite power that allows him to override congress and approve his own proposal.

I think the main power of the President resides in his ability to appoint Supreme Court justices. The political leanings of those justices shape our society over the decades.

[Clipper Nation]

sorry but we don't speak code, try again. welcome to the earth though

Nah, he's not speaking in codes... in an absolute shocker, Jacob actually had a good take for once tbh..... Obama is basically just Dubya all over again, since he's ramped up Dubya's policies instead of changing them.....