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Ace
08-06-2012, 09:24 PM
:downspin: This LkrFag :lol

First of all, this is my first post here and feel free to disagree-What is up with people thinking Wade is not a superstar anymore? Seriously, I am not afraid to criticize wade when necessary and I criticized him a lot during the playoffs. But, I am not blind enough to say hes not one of the top 5 players in the NBA.One thing that has me all confused is the fact that people consider kobe to be, after last season's performance, a top 3 player in the league(chris palmer ‏@ESPNChrisPalmerOlympic hoops is a different animal. You'd never know Kobe is the second best player on the planet)Listen, I am impressed with what he accomplished last year as much as anyone. The guy was 2nd in scoring in the NBA at the age of 33, thats pretty impressive. But to consider him better than wade is just utter nonsense. lets compare-Minutes- When considering the stats, take in mind that Kobe averaged 38 mins last year while wade averaged 33. And Kobe was the 1st option while wade was the 2nd option.Scoring- Kobe is widely know as the better scorer among the two because of the fact that kobe averages more points. Well, thats not how it works kids. Scoring means how efficiently are you able to score rather than just firing up 25 times a game and making 9 of them.Kobe averaged 27.9 ppg on .430 % (9.9-23.0) shooting. while Wade averaged 22.1 ppg on .497% (8.5-17.1) shooting.Looking at that I conclude that Kobe scores more because he takes more shots and threes, therefore he makes more. Kobe is, obviously, a better shooter than wade but thats about all he does better than wade in terms of scoring because wade is the better finisher, slasher and more efficient, ADV- wadePassing- Wade is the better passer and that is obvious to me because he has consistently outperformed kobe in that category year in and year out. Stats-4.6 APG for both kobe and wade and thats pretty impressive for wade because not only was he not the predominant ball handler of the team (unlike Kobe) he also played less mins than kobe, who has two dominant big men he should be able to get more assits from. ADV- Wade Defense- Kobes defensive resume is quite impressive because hes been on numerous All NBA defensive teams but the thing is hes been living on reputation as far as defense goes because hes not a good defender anymore. He cosistently lets players drive past him and doesnt get many steals or blocks. While wade consistently gets better defensive stats as well as plays better one on one defense and is considered the best shotblocking guard in NBA history. stats- wade-1.3 blk 1.7 stls and kobe- 0.3 blk 1.2 stls ADV - Wade Efficiency- No contest here. stats- Wade-FG%- 497 PER- 26.37 Kobe-FG%- .430 Per- 21.95ADV- Wade Rebounding- Granted kobe has two of the best rebounders in the NBA on his team so he wont get many opportunities but he is almost 6-7 he should get more rebounds than a 6-3 D-wade. Also wade is more athletic which makes hm the more effective rebounder. Stats- wade-4.8 rpg Kobe-5.4 rpg ADV- evenOverall, kobe is a top 10 player but not a top5 and Wade had a bad year last year due to injuries, look for him to bounce back next year.

The Batman
08-06-2012, 09:27 PM
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Bynumite
08-06-2012, 09:29 PM
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LkrFan
08-06-2012, 09:38 PM
Wait, WTF? :lol

LkrFan
08-06-2012, 09:39 PM
OK, I'll bite:

Kobe: 5
Wade: 2

:downspin:

jeebus
08-06-2012, 09:39 PM
http://spurstalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=256&pictureid=1729

namlook
08-06-2012, 09:41 PM
Everyone wants to compare their favorite players to Kobe and try and argue why they think they are better. How many threads like this have we seen over the years? Kobe gets compared to Jordan while everyone else seems to get compared to Kobe. :toast

ElNono
08-06-2012, 09:48 PM
Funny, I compare everyone with T-Mac...

Koolaid_Man
08-06-2012, 09:50 PM
:downspin: This LkrFag :lol

Hey baby...why don't you come back to bed with me and let's cuddle...it's cold and it's too late at night to be carrying on like this....come on girl....I promise I won't fart on

Koolaid_Man
08-06-2012, 09:50 PM
you tonight - lol

LkrFan
08-06-2012, 09:59 PM
Everyone wants to compare their favorite players to Kobe and try and argue why they think they are better. How many threads like this have we seen over the years? Kobe gets compared to Jordan while everyone else seems to get compared to Kobe. :toast

Truth bomb. AI. TMac. Vincanity. Ray Allen. I'm sure I missed a few. :lol

Ace
08-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Everyone wants to compare their favorite players to Kobe and try and argue why they think they are better. How many threads like this have we seen over the years? Kobe gets compared to Jordan while everyone else seems to get compared to Kobe. :toast

Comparing LeBron to Kobe would be pointless. It's common knowledge at this point LeBron is clearly a couple levels better than Kobe..:toast

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 10:16 PM
Comparing LeBron to Kobe would be pointless. It's common knowledge at this point LeBron is clearly a couple levels better than Kobe..:toast
Comparing a player who has accomplished the ultimate NBA feat to a player who hasn't accomplished the ultimate NBA feat is just dumb.

:lol Kobe
:lol the one so-called "all time great" too shitty to win MVP and finals MVP in the same season

Bynumite
08-06-2012, 10:33 PM
^If Lebron repeats, successfully defends his title, sure. Otherwise, step off son... like TOSB Jimbo.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 10:35 PM
repeating is a team accomplishment.

Winning MVP and finals MVP in the same season is an individual accomplishment.

Try to keep up.

racm
08-06-2012, 10:56 PM
Guys who have won MVP and FMVP in the same season:

LeBron James (2012)
Tim Duncan (2003)
Shaquille O'Neal (2000)
Michael Jordan (1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)

:downspin:

lefty
08-06-2012, 10:59 PM
^

There must be a glitch, I dont see Kobe on that list

Or did Stern remove his achievements because of his criminal record ?

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 11:00 PM
Guys who have won MVP and FMVP in the same season:

LeBron James (2012)
Tim Duncan (2003)
Shaquille O'Neal (2000)
Michael Jordan (1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)

:downspin:
Also...

Kareem
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson

Off the top of my head

racm
08-06-2012, 11:06 PM
lefty, Kobe won his MVP in 2008, the year the Celtics embarrassed the Lakers...

lefty
08-06-2012, 11:08 PM
lefty, Kobe won his MVP in 2008, the year the Celtics embarrassed the Lakers...

Yeah but he didnt win MVP and championship in the same season

DMC
08-06-2012, 11:13 PM
Maybe Tim or Steve will sell Kobe one of their MVP awards. They've got two each.

:lol Your PG has 2x the MVPs you have

TIMMYtoZO
08-06-2012, 11:19 PM
:lol Jerry throwing more daggers at the Laker fans as if it isn't bad enough for them already.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-06-2012, 11:21 PM
Sup Daunte?

lefty
08-06-2012, 11:27 PM
Also...

Kareem
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson

Off the top of my head

So still no Kobe


The search continues

Deuce Bigalow
08-06-2012, 11:35 PM
2012 Wade wasn't even close to 2012 Kobe in the Playoffs.

TIMMYtoZO
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Sup Daunte?

Sup Deandre? Victoria is having a 5 kegger Thursday night. Please go...she keeps annoying me about how important it is to her that you are there. :lol

lefty
08-06-2012, 11:48 PM
2012 Wade wasn't even close to 2012 Kobe in the Playoffs.

Of course not

He left Kobe in the dust and went all the way to the title

That's how not even close he was from Kobe

Clipper Nation
08-07-2012, 07:46 AM
Maybe Tim or Steve will sell Kobe one of their MVP awards. They've got two each.

:lol Your PG has 2x the MVPs you have

Kobrick already rents his rings from Shaq and Pau, so I wouldn't put that past him, tbh.....

baseline bum
08-07-2012, 09:52 AM
Truth bomb. AI. TMac. Vincanity. Ray Allen. I'm sure I missed a few. :lol

Gary Neal

DMC
08-07-2012, 04:18 PM
2012 Wade wasn't even close to 2012 Kobe in the Playoffs.

True. Kobe never got that far.

Latarian Milton
08-08-2012, 02:58 AM
^ wade was garbage in the playoffs this year tbh dude ain't not half the player da 06' finals MVP was. injury might've been interfering with his performances and its good news he didn't go to london this summer, a full summer of resting time definitely helps his recovery tbh

whitemamba
08-08-2012, 03:59 AM
[QUOTE=racm;6061466]lefty, Kobe won his MVP in 2008, the year the Celtics embarrassed the Lakers...[/QUOTE/]


kobe should of won mvp from '06-'10.. give me a break.. robbed every year tbh

Jodelo
08-08-2012, 04:17 AM
^ wade was garbage in the playoffs this year tbh dude ain't not half the player da 06' finals MVP was. injury might've been interfering with his performances and its good news he didn't go to london this summer, a full summer of resting time definitely helps his recovery tbh

Not much ref help this time...


kobe should of won mvp from '06-'10.. give me a break.. robbed every year tbh

:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed

GeraldWallace
08-08-2012, 05:24 AM
Wade is shit

NXDBj7oxApU

Ace just think if he play heat, he is the best.

Ashy Larry
08-08-2012, 12:54 PM
both of their knees probably resemble Bruce Wayne's X-Ray in TDKR

Deuce Bigalow
08-08-2012, 01:42 PM
Wade had 2 30pt games, Kobe averaged 30 ppg in the 2012 Playoffs

Kobe: 30-5-4 53 TS%, 2 40pt games in 12 games
Wade: 23-5-4 53 TS%, 2 30pt games in 23 games

Jodelo
08-08-2012, 02:23 PM
In 11 games less. :lol

Ace
08-08-2012, 03:13 PM
Wade is shit

NXDBj7oxApU

Ace just think if he play heat, he is the best.
Nigga you don't even make sense, learn to speak English before mentioning my name again. Final warning...

Wade had 2 30pt games, Kobe averaged 30 ppg in the 2012 Playoffs

Kobe: 30-5-4 53 TS%, 2 40pt games in 12 games
Wade: 23-5-4 53 TS%, 2 30pt games in 23 games

The Lakers lost in the second round to the Thunder 4-1
Miami beat that same team 4-1

AussieFanKurt
08-08-2012, 06:24 PM
N

The Lakers lost in the second round to the Thunder 4-1
Miami beat that same team 4-1

So you've gone from comparing single players to teams to win an argument... hm

Ace
08-08-2012, 06:43 PM
So you've gone from comparing single players to teams to win an argument... hm

Only an idiot like you would fail to realize this was a troll thread.

Ace
08-08-2012, 06:43 PM
would you rather go to a party with 5 kegs or 5 cakes?

I think a 5-caker would be pretty awesome too.

Most fat fucks like yourself would think so...

Ace
08-08-2012, 07:08 PM
how about from a non-fat fuck perspective?

5 different types of cake

now i think the cake party would win vs keg party because with the cake party there would also probably be alcohol (worst case a BYOB situation)

but with the keg party there are no guarantees there would be cake. (and bringing your own cake would just open yourself up to insults about being fat)

Only a fatass would go to a party thinking about cake tbh...

Ace
08-08-2012, 07:15 PM
you don't get hungry when you drink?

are you ... you know... that way?

No