Argentina vs Brazil game blog

[TE]

Probably the last game that we will see the golden age of Argentina basketball.

Probably the last game Manu plays internationally :(

Kinda hard to root against Tiago and co but I root for Argie on this onez.

:flag:

[smaka]

Not the last game for Manu. Argentina is gonna win, here's my word.

[naico]

Manu vs Tiago...Brazilian Gf. Tough to pick a side. Hoping for Manu magic though.

[DPG21920]

IMO, Tiago is an underrated big gamer. I think he plays well.

[gambit1990]

what time does it start?

[Venti Quattro]

what time does it start?

12:00 pt

[spurs10]

At least we have a Spur on both teams. That FNT game was deflating...

[Hemotivo]

!

[elemento]

Hopefully Manu and Scola do not flop too much

I don't mind losing it if it's a fair game. I simply want to see the REFs doing a good job out there letting them play the game.

[ace3g]

everytime I see the Arg NT coach, I think of Martin Scorsese

[DPG21920]

I wonder if Manu will screw with Tiago's confidence with regards to free throws :lol

"Foul Tiago before he shoots, he really struggles with free throws in big games"

[ace3g]

Splitter dunk

[ace3g]

lol Huertes with that 1 legged 3 pointer

[DPG21920]

:lol one-footed 3 pointer

[ElNono]

Scola needs to show up... he's been sucking all tournament

[ElNono]

grab a fucken rebound

[DPG21920]

Huertas locked in.

[ace3g]

typical Manu drive

[DPG21920]

Gino just sh*t on Brazil :lol

[ElNono]

I guess ARG gonna let Huertas shoot the 3

[emanueldavidginobili]

Put in compozza, Prigioni is to slow and can't play D!

[DPG21920]

Good first quarter - Manu and Tiago looked solid. If Huertas can keep raining threes (doubtful) ARG is in trouble. But I say stay the course through 3 quarters - if he's still hitting, then you change it up.

[elemento]

Huertas on fire

[elemento]

Brazil has to defend 3 pointers better, especially Delfinos

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Prigioni amazing ball fake.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Scola needs to show up... he's been sucking all tournament
He's third in scoring in the entire tournament...

[Spurs Brazil]

great game so far

[ElNono]

ARG needs much more from Scola, on both ends... they just don't have enough if he doesn't show up to play

[ElNono]

He's third in scoring in the entire tournament...

He padded his shit on the crappy games... he only played well against Lithuania so far

[ElNono]

And he can score... but you can't let midgets lay it up right in your grill...

[ElNono]

Manu everywhere

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Delfino is locked in so far

[ElNono]

gotta ride Delfino while he's hot, tbh

[ElNono]

terrible shot prigioni

[Thomas3]

Somebody a link please?

[DPG21920]

Tiago bullying these tiny Argies.

[urunobili]

Huertas on fire...

[ElNono]

lol defense

[urunobili]

ARG needs to keep riding the Dolphino

[ElNono]

Scola making me look like a fool... :tu

[ElNono]

Manu getting the superstar call, tbh

[ElNono]

Don't get hurt manu

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Splitter so many assists

[DPG21920]

Tiago with some fantastic passes :tu

[ElNono]

lol Nocioni on Nene

[DPG21920]

I thought Barea was Puerto Rican?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Splitter make your damn FTs

[ElNono]

stupid foul by hasen

[elemento]

Brasil is pathetic at the FT line. 5-12 so far.

Barbosa is a joke seriously.

[urunobili]

Why Marcelinho doesn't play in the NBA?

[ElNono]

Scola needs to drop that

[ElNono]

Manu :wow

Great D

[Spurs Brazil]

Tiago pathetic so far. Manu is great

[ElNono]

lol flop

[ElNono]

ARG can't fall asleep.. they gotta keep scoring...

[ElNono]

fuck..make a shot

[DAF86]

Why Marcelinho doesn't play in the NBA?

Same reason it took Scola so much to get in the NBA. Contract rescission too expensive. Something like 8.5 millions.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Campazzo plays with so much energy

[it's me]

Argentina scrubs are in fact SCRUBS.

[ElNono]

damnit barbosa hitting

[timvp]

Argentina beating up their little brother, per usual.

[DAF86]

Argentina beating up their little brother, per usual.

Don't jinx it you ass.

[ElNono]

No lead is safe with the TOSBs... they gotta keep the heat on...

[it's me]

Not over.

[DAF86]

Refs starting to call it like an NBA game.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Splitter make your damn FTs

[Spurs Brazil]

Brazillian announcer ripping Tiago because weak hook shots and FTs

[Spurs Brazil]

Manu is so clutch

[ElNono]

Manu being the leader he is, tbh

[ElNono]

Here comes the choke... smh

[ElNono]

Scola stop traveling and forcing shit

[ElNono]

fuck Scola choking bitch

[MannyIsGod]

Manu better not like the Tiagos punk him.

[ElNono]

Here comes the choke... smh

[DAF86]

Nocioni=balls to the wall.

[ElNono]

come on... damn, this is gonna give me a hearth attack

[Hemotivo]

nocioni against the giants
:wow

[it's me]

Nocioni actually helping Arg..... that's new in this Olympics.

[DesignatedT]

Lol Tiago is better than Duncan.

4 down belongs to him now.

[ElNono]

fucking barbosa sucked all tournament and now he's fucking clutch? what the fuck

[elemento]

Barbosa just destroyed Nocioni :lmao

[ElNono]

Prigioni fucking choker bitch

[DAF86]

Get Prigioni out of there.

[DAF86]

That's out of Huertas' leg. Fucking refs.

[Hemotivo]

Barbosa just destroyed Nocioni :lmao

:downspin:
^
chapu

[ElNono]

Hit one of those 3 pointers and this game is over... fuck

[it's me]

why they insist on getting the ball to Scola???? give it to Manu and move out of the way... thats it.

[DesignatedT]

Let Manu run the team down the stretch and play that two man game with Scola. Lol prigioni

[ElNono]

come on Manu, close this shit

[elemento]

And Alex fouls Manu

What a dumb fuck

[DAF86]

30 for 30 for Manu on the line in this tournament.

[ElNono]

defense

[ElNono]

come on barbosa... one more fuckup

[elemento]

Game over

GG and GL to Argentina next round

[DAF86]

Start jumping up and down

[ElNono]

there it is! :lmao

[elemento]

Barbosa :lol

[DAF86]

:cry Great fucking TOSB's :cry

[it's me]

come on barbosa... one more fuckup

LOL good call :lol

[Josepatches_]

Lol Marcelinho

[ElNono]

well, great to see they're going to be playing for a medal no matter what happens next game!

[Hemotivo]

come on barbosa... one more fuckup

:lol

[DAF86]

They never fail.

[ElNono]

Brazil had a great tourney, tbh... they've improved a lot

[diego]

since he isnt going to be doing anything, any chance we can get magnano to coach us next game?
:lol

[Spurs Brazil]

Props to Argentina

Manu winning another medal would be great

[jimbo]

Brazillian announcer ripping Tiago because weak hook shots and FTs

Good. He needs to be ripped on.

Him playing so weak was the difference in this game

[ElNono]

since he isnt going to be doing anything, any chance we can get magnano to coach us next game?
:lol

Sign me up on that :lol

[timvp]

Who do we play next?

[ElNono]

Who do we play next?

ARG plays the winner of AUS-USA...

[Bruno]

Barbosa is so dumb.

Anyway, that's great for Argentina to reach the semifinal with that roster. A medal would be amazing to end their journey but it's going to be damn difficult. Spain or Russia will be a tough opponent for the bronze medal.

[it's me]

lol Scola

[ElNono]

But even if they lose to Team USA, they'll still play for Bronze with the loser of Russia-Spain

[DAF86]

Brazil had a great tourney, tbh... they've improved a lot

That flukey Russia three changed a lot for them. They could have gotten to the final.

[Spurs Brazil]

Brazil must keep Magnano, great coach

[ace3g]

lol guy commentating just got hit in the head with a basketball

[Sa_Spursfan20]

Solid win Argentina!

[cd98]

Team USA is going to beat Argentina. But after their last game, there will be some hard fouls and retributions from both sides. It will be a must-see game.

[DAF86]

That flukey Russia three changed a lot for them. They could have gotten to the final.

Amazing how one play can chage things so drastically.

[DAF86]

Who do we play next?

Probably Australia, imho.

[timvp]

Argentina vs. Spain for the Bronze is going to be a hell of a game. I give the edge to Argentina because they'll be a little bit more motivated (Spain will be depressed about not making the gold medal game). Ginobili would have to come up huge but I think he could do it.

[gambit1990]

lol guy commentating just got hit in the head with a basketball

he said an idiot threw it and then realized it came from the court :lol

[Cherry]

Once again, Argentina is one of the best 4 teams. Good win.

[urunobili]

For all those still rooting for Team USA, remember what happened last time Manu came back from winning gold at the Olympics :stirpot:

[DAF86]

For all those still rooting for Team USA, remember what happened last time Manu came back from winning gold at the Olympics :stirpot:

That time we also played Brazil in the quarters. :stirpot: x 2

[Bruno]

Argentina has been damn lucky that Spain tanked their last game. They would have been destroyed by their bigmen.

FIBA should try to change their tournament formula to avoid tanking because it really screw the integrity of the game.

[it's me]

That time we also played Brazil in the quarters. :stirpot: x 2

...and Manu was 100 years younger...... the US didn't have KD.....and Scola was a good player.

[DAF86]

Argentina has been damn lucky that Spain tanked their last game. They would have been destroyed by their bigmen.

FIBA should try to change their tournament formula to avoid tanking because it really screw the integrity of the game.

Oh yeah? Oh well, good for us. :hat

[urunobili]

Argentina has been damn lucky that Spain tanked their last game. They would have been destroyed by their bigmen.

FIBA should try to change their tournament formula to avoid tanking because it really screw the integrity of the game.

I know your hate for Scola is big, but come on Bruno, it wouldn't have been a walk in the park as you're coloring it on this post...:rolleyes

[ALVAREZ6]

Argentina vs. Spain for the Bronze is going to be a hell of a game. I give the edge to Argentina because they'll be a little bit more motivated (Spain will be depressed about not making the gold medal game). Ginobili would have to come up huge but I think he could do it.

I think Spain is overrated this year tbh. I think Argentina could beat Spain. :tu

[MmP]

Hehe frenchmen still hurt by spain tanking. With spain you never know it always a battle when both teams meet but of course they have the edge

[kolko]

That time we also played Brazil in the quarters. :stirpot: x 2

No, Greece.

[emanueldavidginobili]

good game to watch besides the whistle being blown every second, Delfino did a Good job in the 1st and Nocioni was the dark horse he played very well. Pablo Prigioni fucking sucks, I can't believe the Knicks signed him at 35 they should have signed Huertas if anything who is 29 not 35 and better...but god Damn Manu every single game does some play that just raises your eye brows. Doc Rivers just said Ginobili is one of the great finishers of our time.

[Josepatches_]

Argentina vs. Spain for the Bronze is going to be a hell of a game. I give the edge to Argentina because they'll be a little bit more motivated (Spain will be depressed about not making the gold medal game). Ginobili would have to come up huge but I think he could do it.

I'm sure we'll win the silver medal but if we play Argentina for the bronze medal we'll beat them

Spain played an awful second half Vs Russia but Russia is the only team close to Spain. Argentina have no chance.


Anyway I don't like to lose games on purpose like we did vs Brazil. I would prefer to win the bronze medal. We deserve to lose vs Russia

[Bruno]

I know your hate for Scola is big, but come on Bruno, it wouldn't have been a walk in the park as you're coloring it on this post...:rolleyes

Scola is too little to face the Gasols and Ibaka.

It may sound like I'm bitter but I'm not. I wish all the best to Argentina national team because they deserve it. Saying that, you had to admit they are something really wrong in the Olympic tournament format.

[DAF86]

No, Greece.

You're right, Brazil in the quarters was in Indianapolis.

[Josepatches_]

Scola is too little to face the Gasols and Ibaka.

It may sound like I'm bitter but I'm not. I wish all the best to Argentina national team because they deserve it. Saying that, you had to admit they are something really wrong in the Olympic tournament format.


Same in the NBA. Memphis did the same to face us.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Argentina has the most pride and heart in this tournament and its not even close

[urunobili]

Scola is too little to face the Gasols and Ibaka.

It may sound like I'm bitter but I'm not. I wish all the best to Argentina national team because they deserve it. Saying that, you had to admit they are something really wrong in the Olympic tournament format.

:tu

True, that tanking was really infamous. I think France would have beaten Brazil and maybe even Russia too.

[DAF86]

good game to watch besides the whistle being blown every second, Delfino did a Good job in the 1st and Nocioni was the dark horse he played very well. Pablo Prigioni fucking sucks, I can't believe the Knicks signed him at 35 they should have signed Huertas if anything who is 29 not 35 and better...but god Damn Manu every single game does some play that just raises your eye brows. Doc Rivers just said Ginobili is one of the great finishers of our time.

Prigioni is injured.

[Bruno]

Same in the NBA. Memphis did the same to face us.

Well, it's less common in NBA. Every summer, a team tanked to get a better bracket: Greece tanked in 2009 in 2010, France tanked in 2011 and Spain tanked this year.

NBA is too looking at a solution to avoid that. In the D-League, top teams are picking their opponent for the playoffs. I don't know if it will one day make it to the NAB but they are at least trying to solve this issue.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Prigioni is injured.


Yeah I know, but at this point in his career I rather have Campazzo getting the minutes

[it's me]

Well, it's less common in NBA. Every summer, a team tanked to get a better bracket: Greece tanked in 2009 in 2010, France tanked in 2011 and Spain tanked this year.

NBA is too looking at a solution to avoid that. In the D-League, top teams are picking their opponent for the playoffs. I don't know if it will one day make it to the NAB but they are at least trying to solve this issue.

In the NBA every year teams tank to get better picks .... I'm disgusted by what fucking Spain did... but you can't say tanking isn't common in the NBA.

[TD 21]

So much for Brazil being better. I'm not surprised Argentina pulled it out. Magnano should have stayed big and played Splitter next to Nene. That might have forced Argentina to close with Gutierrez over Nocioni. If they stayed with Nocioni though, then obviously Splitter would have had a mismatch in the post, moreso than Nocioni would have on the other end (limited shot creator, with minimal speed/quickness). Three of Brazil's top five players are bigs, yet instead of playing to their strengths, they went down with only one of the bigs closing.

[SA210]

Go Argentina! :hat

[ElNono]

So much for Brazil being better. I'm not surprised Argentina pulled it out. Magnano should have stayed big and played Splitter next to Nene. That might have forced Argentina to close with Gutierrez over Nocioni. If they stayed with Nocioni though, then obviously Splitter would have had a mismatch in the post, moreso than Nocioni would have on the other end (limited shot creator, with minimal speed/quickness). Three of Brazil's top five players are bigs, yet instead of playing to their strengths, they went down with only one of the bigs closing.

It's a different game. In international ball, you can sit under the rim for as long as you want and hack at the bigs. That's why ARG can get away with playing Scola and 4 guards and still win.

[Bruno]

In the NBA every year teams tank to get better picks .... I'm disgusted by what fucking Spain did... but you can't say tanking isn't common in the NBA.

I wasn't talking about lottery teams tanking to get a better picks. I was talking about NBA playoffs teams tanking to get a specific opponent.

Lottery teams tanking is way less problematic because it has no impact on what team will win the championship the year they tanked. It's not because some crappy teams have tanked that Miami won the championship. On the other hand, the Spanish tanking has a direct impact on teams that will get or not a medal at these Olympics.

[TD 21]

It's a different game. In international ball, you can sit under the rim for as long as you want and hack at the bigs. That's why ARG can get away with playing Scola and 4 guards and still win.

I'm aware. You're missing the point though. I don't care what type of rules it is; it's still basketball. Brazil wasn't going to win by going away from their advantage and playing into Argentina's hands.

[Brazil]

Congrats Argentinian fans ! Elnono, DAF ... well deserved semi after a tough game. Wish you the best guys !

[timvp]

The dumb Olympic format is one reason why the NBA is thinking about (and should follow through with) starting their own international tournament. When you have a format that screams for tactical tanking, something is wrong.

[Bruno]

The dumb Olympic format is one reason why the NBA is thinking about (and should follow through with) starting their own international tournament. When you have a format that screams for tactical tanking, something is wrong.

Well, it's a very marginal reason. The NBA wants to have its own international tournament for two reasons: money and players health. tactical tanking come light years behind these reasons.

Basketball deserves to have a better top international competition than these current olympic tournament. The olympic tournament has a lot of weaknesses:
- 12 teams isn't enough.
- With only one arena available, some teams have to play games at 9 am.
- Referees are bad.
- tactical tanking

I'm not sure if taking basketball away from the Olympics is the way to go. FIBA should try to convince the IOC to have an Olympic tournament with 16 teams, 2 arenas and a new format. More money should be spend on referees formation.

[ElNono]

I'm aware. You're missing the point though. I don't care what type of rules it is; it's still basketball. Brazil wasn't going to win by going away from their advantage and playing into Argentina's hands.

I get what you're saying, it's just that it's harder to dominate inside with so little room. Duncan was a prime example of that.



Congrats Argentinian fans ! Elnono, DAF ... well deserved semi after a tough game. Wish you the best guys !

Thanks, though I had to give up my ARG citizenship when I became American... while on basketball that was an upgrade, switching from Messi to Landon Donovan was a major downgrade, tbh :lol

[ElNono]

Isn't the schedule for the Worlds championship pretty much the same?

[Brazil]

Thanks, though I had to give up my ARG citizenship when I became American... while on basketball that was an upgrade, switching from Messi to Landon Donovan was a major downgrade, tbh :lol

you had to give up your nationality ? I didn't know to have US citizenship you needed to give up nationality. That's pretty sad tbh. Not sure I would be able to do that !

[ace3g]

https://p.twimg.com/AzzvkEwCcAAZISJ.jpg:large

[urunobili]

You're right, Brazil in the quarters was in Indianapolis.

No. That was Team USA.

[DAF86]

No. That was Team USA.

Nope, USA lost to Serbia in the quarters.

[ElNono]

you had to give up your nationality ? I didn't know to have US citizenship you needed to give up nationality. That's pretty sad tbh. Not sure I would be able to do that !


¿Desde cuando hay que dejar la ciudadania de tu pais para naturalizarte como ciudadano de otro pais?. Si es asi, no vale la pena

The Oath (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=facd6db8d7e37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60a RCRD) goes:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;................."

By taking the oath and becoming an US citizen, I renounced my Argentina and Italian dual-citizenship.

Some countries like Italy allow you to apply for dual citizenship after taking the oath (if you were previously an Italian citizen), so I could do that. Argentina, I think, always treats you as a citizen if you were born in the country, regardless of what you do. But if you identify yourself as an Argentinean national, then the US might be limited to help you in case of trouble.

It's all very complicated, but I'm happy to be a US citizen :lol

[spurs10]

ElNono, that explains a lot. I was wondering about your Argentinean jersey and all. Didn't know you were actually from there. I root for Argentina because I believe in their team spirit and obvious camaraderie. That, and of course, Manu is a balling mo$##$&&er and a Spur.

[ElNono]

The jersey is more Manu bait than anything else, tbh... :lol

I don't forget where I come from, but after 13+ years, the US is my home now.

[Brazil]

The Oath (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=facd6db8d7e37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60a RCRD) goes:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;................."

By taking the oath and becoming an US citizen, I renounced my Argentina and Italian dual-citizenship.

Some countries like Italy allow you to apply for dual citizenship after taking the oath (if you were previously an Italian citizen), so I could do that. Argentina, I think, always treats you as a citizen if you were born in the country, regardless of what you do. But if you identify yourself as an Argentinean national, then the US might be limited to help you in case of trouble.

It's all very complicated, but I'm happy to be a US citizen :lol

fortunately you don't need a visa to visit your country :lol

[ElNono]

fortunately you don't need a visa to visit your country :lol

right :lol

[Venti Quattro]

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N:lolci:lolni

[Josepatches_]

The dumb Olympic format is one reason why the NBA is thinking about (and should follow through with) starting their own international tournament. When you have a format that screams for tactical tanking, something is wrong.

Sure

That's why we had 3 or 4 threads here about tanking to avoid Lakers this year and last year........ and Memphis wasn't tanking game to play us....You can't do it with the NBA format....:rolleyes

The format isn't the real problem. The problem is when a team is much better than the rest.