Lakers Land Dwight Howard

[Andthentherewas21]

The Lakers getting (insert player here). Nothing to get worked up about anymore. I just accept it as part of the game.

This. The system perpetuates itself. The Lakers have a 10 year $1.5 billion tv deal with Time Warner Cable so its not like they can't afford to spend outrageously even with the new taxes. When they start to struggle or falter for a few seasons, then they trade a star player on the decline to a smaller market desperate for something to put fans in the seats, and in return they get a huge trade exception and promising young assets or draft picks.

Just the way the NBA as a business has been constructed. And given the money the Lakers are going to be paying out to the rest of the league in luxury tax on top of the new revenue sharing, there isn't going to be much incentive to change it anytime soon.

Just makes the Spurs run the last 15 years or so, and players like Tim, Tony, and Manu all the more special when you think about the loyalty they've shown and the sacrifices they've made.

[daslicer]

I hate the trade just as much as any Spur fan, but some of your reactions are hilarious.

Agreed the spurs last chance to win a title was last year so there is no reason to get down about this trade. Also Dwight is an upgrade on Bynum but not a huge upgrade. He is a little bit better then Bynum in every category points,blocks, rebounds but not a huge difference. From an intimidation standpoint I think the Lakers will miss Bynum's size and dirty play. Either way the Lakers lost to the thunder due to having crappy perimeter players who couldn't play defense so I don't see how that changes now with Dwight.

[Clipper Nation]

Just the way the NBA as a business has been constructed. And given the money the Lakers are going to be paying out to the rest of the league in luxury tax on top of the new revenue sharing, there isn't going to be much incentive to change it anytime soon.
Ehhh.... by the time the next CBA negotiation rolls around, I wouldn't be shocked if plenty of small-market teams try to force their way into second or third banana status in big markets, or even get contracted, with all the owners at each others' throats, tbh.... I mean, it's already starting with the Kings trying to move to Anaheim and creep in on the LA market.... Then there would have to be changes made, tbh...

[Capt Bringdown]

Hey, the summer's not over yet. Maybe we'll see the Celtics reconstituted as well.

[dbreiden83080]

The 2006 Knicks had a $126.6 million payroll, I kid you not.

http://i.imgur.com/zgkrX.png

If Anfernee Hardaway making 16 million isn't stealing I don’t know what is

[mrjap2x]

Go to las Vegas now if there is some gambling for who gets the no 1 pick, I guarantee it will be the magic. Just look at the trend
After lebron left, kyrie Irving went to the cavs, chris Paul then Anthony Davis, now the only question is who will be the magic get.

[Don Ready]

C'mon now. I've never talked trash. Funny is funny.

Yeah you've been hiding the past two years.

[2Cleva]

Yeah you've been hiding the past two years.

Yeah I did - I said goodbye because SA had a fork in their back.

[DirkDoesWork]

This trade is Grand-fuckin'-Larceny, and that's putting it lightly. At least Brook Lopez *could*, and I use that world very loosely, become a star player, but he'd have to stopped being a pussy and start rebounding like a 7'1'' center. This deal reeks of bullshit.

[007nites]

We should sign Jermaine O'neal just so that he could throw a few hard fouls at Dwight. It would be a great reunion for SJax as well.

[DPG21920]

He just signed with PHX.

[therealtruth]

He just signed with PHX.

The Spurs don't even try to get decent bigs. We're not asking them to get the next Duncan. Just better than Blair/Bonner.

[dunkman]

The Lakers had Bynum, he was a good find at 10th lottery pick. Probably the best player of that draft. Howard isn't that much better at this point.

[baseline bum]

Jermaine O'Neal isn't any better than Blair. Not that I like Blair, but O'Neal is crap.

[baseline bum]

The Lakers had Bynum, he was a good find at 10th lottery pick. Probably the best player of that draft. Howard isn't that much better at this point.

Bynum's probably the third best player in that draft, behind CP3 and DWill.

[kobyz]

should be commission of enquiry about this trade!

[shorttotry]

Delicious :cry

Yes, the built-in advantages of having the savvy to pick the youngest player ever drafted and then not unloading him for trash. It really comes down to the Lakers having, by far and away, the best front office in the NBA for the past 30+ years.

I know, it hurts. :pop:


You're fucking retarded. That sly Kobe pickup is one thing, but the Fakers have pulled this shit for decades. And no, their FO is VERY highly overrated. Yes, LA has a beach, great night life filled with douchebags, and tons of money grubbing whores with fake tits. That is the pull their front office uses to get any desperate loser with a huge ego to come to LA. I think it's almost a chickenshit move by a certain players desperate for a ship that drives this monstrosity.

Duncan is the epicenter of a mega-superstar... Started with immediate success. He could have gone to any place he desired, but his loyalty is unsurpassed. Duncan should have a shrine right next to Robinsons.

[therealtruth]

Can't wait to see Buss pay the super tax and be limited in trades.

[HI-FI]

Can't wait to see Buss pay the super tax and be limited in trades.

that shit will be hilarious, though can't they afford to keep paying it? i don't know their finances, but i've read they make 150 million a year from their TV deals alone. just curious how long they can make a mockery of the cap.

[hsxvvd]

You're fucking retarded. That sly Kobe pickup is one thing, but the Fakers have pulled this shit for decades. And no, their FO is VERY highly overrated. Yes, LA has a beach, great night life filled with douchebags, and tons of money grubbing whores with fake tits. That is the pull their front office uses to get any desperate loser with a huge ego to come to LA. I think it's almost a chickenshit move by a certain players desperate for a ship that drives this monstrosity.

Duncan is the epicenter of a mega-superstar... Started with immediate success. He could have gone to any place he desired, but his loyalty is unsurpassed. Duncan should have a shrine right next to Robinsons.

Don't forget. Kobe (via Adidas & Arn Tellem) told all teams he would ONLY turn pro to play for LA, so it wasn't really a good pick on their behalf.

[LkrFan]

lol Orlando... Are they really that stupid?? Why didn't we get Howard and give them Bonner and Neal, it's the same shit Denver gave them.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Duncan wanted to play for the Lakers ?


Fuck him and his TOSB ass

:lol

[Sportcamper]

Laker fans already anointing their team as 2013 champs...

Not true at all…Lakers got better with Nash & Dwight but nobody is saying that they are good enough to get past Oklahoma…With Pau Gasol’s outstanding Olympic performance the Lakers may have one more deal in the works…

Nice article if you are interested…

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-bolch-lakers-matchup-20120813,0,2957109.story

[swaggerjackson]

Bryant too distacted by flights from Colorado to LA. Is that what happened that year. I can't remember I feel like something else noteworthy might have happened. Ugh this is going to bug me all day.

[Sportcamper]

I can't remember I feel like something else noteworthy might have happened. Ugh this is going to bug me all day.

No you are right…Kobe had knee surgery that year & spent a lot of money on jewelry…

[Budkin]

The X-factor. Dwight's back. Tough injury to recover from, but he's a young guy. Chances are good for him.

[Venti Quattro]

Can't wait to see Buss pay the super tax and be limited in trades.

:lol super tax
:lol $5bn cable deal

[Mhak]

whats the details on D-Ho contract extension with the lakers? Is he a one year rental if not signed?

[Agloco]

Oh and :lol @ Orlando. Did they really just trade Dwight Howard for Arron Afflalo's horrible contract and a few trash pieces? I don't see WTF they are doing. Afflalo is like Danny Green but more of a ballhog, a worse defender and makes more than double as much money.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8254353/nba-offseason-dwight-howard-deal-head-scratcher-magic



D12 deal: Head-scratcher for Magic
Lakers, Nuggets, Sixers win big, but Orlando's returns for Howard far too weak

No surprises here tbh. It was only a matter of time before DHo wound up with LAL.

[Maddog]

Well
Orlando did get a better deal than the last time one of their perennial all star centers went to the Lakers

[Sportcamper]

whats the details on D-Ho contract extension with the lakers? Is he a one year rental if not signed?

Dwight & Drew will not sign an extension with any team at this time…After this season they will be eligible to sign 5 year max deals…Lakers payroll is about 100 million before luxury tax’s kick in…That being said the Lakers never lose a star player to the free agent market...

[racm]

Dwight & Drew will not sign an extension with any team at this time…After this season they will be eligible to sign 5 year max deals…Lakers payroll is about 100 million before luxury tax’s kick in…That being said the Lakers never lose a star player to the free agent market...

And this article (http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/08/13/its-the-end-of-the-max-extension-as-we-know-it/) basically implies that letting the contract expire and re-signing with the new team as an FA is better financially for the player.

[Budkin]

Dwight & Drew will not sign an extension with any team at this time…After this season they will be eligible to sign 5 year max deals…Lakers payroll is about 100 million before luxury tax’s kick in…That being said the Lakers never lose a star player to the free agent market...

Dwight is so gung ho on going to NJ and teaming up with D-Will that it could happen next summer. If the Lakers win the title though forget about it, he's re-signing.

[DPG21920]

There is quite literally no way Dwight can sign with NJ next season.

[Clipper Nation]

There is quite literally no way Dwight can sign with NJ next season.
Mainly because the Nets are in Brooklyn... :hat

[Proxy]

There is quite literally no way Dwight can sign with NJ next season.

Lakers traded Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard... I wouldn't doubt anything if it somehow benefited the NBA's cash flow. They'll weigh their options at the end of the season but I doubt LA loses Dwight since it assures their relevancy post-Kobe.

[DPG21920]

That's fine - but when you look at what's realistic, Dwight signing in Brooklyn as a FA is not a probable or likely situation.

[Sportcamper]

As previously posted…Dwight has been in LA all summer…His meals & hotel rooms are comp’d…He gets celebrity treatment at ball games…His marketing has doubled…Probably going to get guest appearances on TV’s shows that are filmed out here…He is looking at homes that overlook the Pacific Ocean…Really doubt that he will want to sign with another team…

[DMC]

:lol perpetual shock over the Lakers' aquisitions
:lol we just need one more piece
:lol it's all Bonner's fault
:lol it's all Pop's fault
:lol who could we trade for Howard?
:lol same scenario happening on other small market teams

[BigTex342006]

17th season for Kobe and Nash.... Not trying to be twisted....but isn't it time for a ankle or hammy injury that won't heal? Father time is undefeated, it is time for him to start throwing lobs toward LA...

[DeadlyDynasty]

As previously posted…Dwight has been in LA all summer…His meals & hotel rooms are comp’d…He gets celebrity treatment at ball games…His marketing has doubled…Probably going to get guest appearances on TV’s shows that are filmed out here…He is looking at homes that overlook the Pacific Ocean…Really doubt that he will want to sign with another team…
SC, with the matter-of-fact goods

[Clipper Nation]

17th season for Kobe and Nash.... Not trying to be twisted....but isn't it time for a ankle or hammy injury that won't heal? Father time is undefeated, it is time for him to start throwing lobs toward LA...

I don't wish injury on anyone, but I do wonder how Nash will fare without the miraculous Phoenix medical staff keeping him upright, tbh.....

[skulls138]

I actually like Bynums game better. Howard is obviously the better athlete but Bynum is the better basketball player.

I guess we'll find out whether Bynums bad attitude was a result of his immaturity or Kobe's lack of trust. Its probably both so Kobe's lack of trust will still be a factor with Howard, someone whose commitment issues are also in question.

[Donkeybong]

I actually like Bynums game better. Howard is obviously the better athlete but Bynum is the better basketball player.

I guess we'll find out whether Bynums bad attitude was a result of his immaturity or Kobe's lack of trust. Its probably both so Kobe's lack of trust will still be a factor with Howard, someone whose commitment issues are also in question.

Most of us LA fans know that Bynum is more offensively skilled and has a better touch than Dwight and I don't even think it's close. Dwight's game, much like LeBron's, is predicated mainly on athleticism. When that starts to go, they won't be nearly as effective. I believe Bynum will be a better player than Howard in about 2 years. But the Lakers problem wasn't about getting a better player, but a better fit next to Gasol. Howard is PERFECT. He is going to Gobble up every damn rebound and let Gasol do his work in the post.

[DMC]

No ripple effects. The Spurs couldn't get over a team that doesn't even have a legit inside presence. They will win a lot of regular season games and, barring injuries, will lose in the 1st round.

I said

[hater]

A core of Nash, Kobe, D-Ho and Gasol leapfrogged the Spurs on paper.

By a significant margin. Only a homer would say otherwise.

Prior to this trade, you could say the Spurs and Lakers were about even. But now, on paper, you can't.


:lmao timvp with the terribles :lmao

[Brazil]

I said

congrats

[DMC]

:lmao timvp with the terribles :lmao

No he was spot on. He said "on paper".

[DMC]

congrats

I am dragging it up prior to it happening, unlike some who cherry pick later. If I am wrong, at least there's fresh reminders.

[hater]

A core of Nash, Kobe, D-Ho and Gasol leapfrogged the Spurs on paper.

By a significant margin. Only a homer would say otherwise.

Prior to this trade, you could say the Spurs and Lakers were about even. But now, on paper, you can't.


:toast to the greatest franchise in sports


:toast Mitch did it again


NBA FO power rankings

1. Lakers/Mitch Kupchak
2. Heat/Pat Riley
3. San Antonio/RC Buford
4. Boston/Danny Ainge

9001. New York/Glen Grunwald


900000000000000000000000000000001. Orlando/Rob Hennigan

:lmao


Delicious :cry

Yes, the built-in advantages of having the savvy to pick the youngest player ever drafted and then not unloading him for trash. It really comes down to the Lakers having, by far and away, the best front office in the NBA for the past 30+ years.

I know, it hurts. :pop:



:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao v

thanks for bumping this today of all days

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[hater]

newfound respect for these guys


Bynum is a better offensive player than Howard. Nash is 50 years old..

OKC still beats them in a 7 game series..


I don't really give a fuck if LA got Howard. Our team is mainly based on perimeter shooting anyway. The only guy who drives the paint is Parker. LA has no one who can keep up with our perimeter players. I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them next season.

[Brazil]

I am dragging it up prior to it happening, unlike some who cherry pick later. If I am wrong, at least there's fresh reminders.

fair and square DMC

I still think that this team ceiling relatively healthy is WCF, this is what I had before season start. They still can do it as the rest of the West is not that good, it will all depend on TP and on Tim new youth. Silver lining here is that TP normally doesn't need a lot of time to shake the rust so if he could come back healthy a couple of games before the POs he should be fine. But even in that case, I don't see the Spurs capable to go through OKC even sans Harden, they are too young, too fast and too good at drawing fools imho

[phxspurfan]

Payton, Malone, Kobe and Shaq also leapfrogged the Spurs on paper. But we all know what happened after that

[therealtruth]

Payton, Malone, Kobe and Shaq also leapfrogged the Spurs on paper. But we all know what happened after that

They beat us in the second round and Malone got injured in the Finals.

[DMC]

Payton, Malone, Kobe and Shaq also leapfrogged the Spurs on paper. But we all know what happened after that

They leapfrogged them in the playoffs and lost to Detroit.

[spurs1990]

Anyone catch the end of the Memphis game tonight?

Conley unclutchly misses both a jumpshot and a buzzer beating layup to beat LA.

IE the same character who cost the Spurs a loss a few days ago.

[Sean Cagney]

Anyone catch the end of the Memphis game tonight?

Conley unclutchly misses both a jumpshot and a buzzer beating layup to beat LA.

IE the same character who cost the Spurs a loss a few days ago.

Yeah he would miss against them and then hit everything against us late. WHY NOT?

[spurs1990]

Yeah he would miss against them and then hit everything against us late. WHY NOT?

Each day is getting better than the next. Been that way since the RRT tbh

[Sean Cagney]

Each day is getting better than the next. Been that way since the RRT tbh
After that it has all fallen appart, to say the least.

[boutons_deux]

Payton, Malone, Kobe and Shaq also leapfrogged the Spurs on paper. But we all know what happened after that

Malone got hurt, DET took the LOB.

[dunkman]

Howard? Game over then!
The talent is there, what's missing is coaching. Brown was a disappointment, and D'Antoni had to take the hot potato mid-season. Phil was a much better option too.

[therealtruth]

Anyone catch the end of the Memphis game tonight?

Conley unclutchly misses both a jumpshot and a buzzer beating layup to beat LA.

IE the same character who cost the Spurs a loss a few days ago.

That jumper is a lot harder with rim protection.

[lefty]

:toast to the greatest franchise in sports


:toast Mitch did it again


The brain of Magic's manager is full of shit


2 things.

Absolutely critical for the Spurs to get that #1 seed again in 2013.

.


5% chance Spurs beating the lakers (if la is healthy).


The west is ridiculously stacked.. going to be a lonnnngggg season for the spurs


First seed just go so much more important


Taking names of all the douchebags saying theyre giving up the nba. If they post next season they should be banned:lol

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao


I don't really give a fuck if LA got Howard. Our team is mainly based on perimeter shooting anyway. The only guy who drives the paint is Parker. LA has no one who can keep up with our perimeter players. I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them next season.
:tu

[spurraider21]

Bynum is a better offensive player than Howard. Nash is 50 years old..

OKC still beats them in a 7 game series..
or spurs in 4 :lol

[Chinook]

Ah, the days when people thought that the Spurs' front court was weakness. Seems so long ago now.

[Brazil]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao


:tu

Hey I was right.... 2012-2013 has been indeed a long season for the Spurs :hat

[timtonymanu]

Ahh... so sweet how this turned out. Lots of talk about the West getting better and the Spurs not improving and then they win the conference last year and the title this year.

Good times.

[Dex]

http://i.imgur.com/ZezApQM.gif

[hater]

I would roll my eyes but this is just the Lakers being the Lakers. They pretty much get whoever they want, whenever they want. That's what happens when you're the team 99% of players grow up wanting to play for (including Tim Duncan) while being in the best market ... so there's really no reason to be angry. Tbh, with their built-in advantages, the Lakers should win every NBA championship.

But, anyways, what are the ripple effects of this trade in terms of the Spurs? My first thought is it should be an even bigger priority for the Spurs to sign another center. I haven't liked what I've seen when Splitter tries to defend Howard.

Thankfully, Duncan does rather well against him, especially when you factor in both ends of the court. But it's undeniable that the Lakers are now much improved.

*sigh*

:lmao

[Joseph Kony]

:toast to the greatest franchise in sports

:lmao

[Joseph Kony]

I don't really give a fuck if LA got Howard. Our team is mainly based on perimeter shooting anyway. The only guy who drives the paint is Parker. LA has no one who can keep up with our perimeter players. I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them next season.

:worthy:

[baseline bum]

This thread warms my heart:)

Mine too, Dorrell. :tu

[ElNono]

Well, that worked for the better... :lol

[RD2191]

Doesn't matter...they can't beat OKC either.

The Spurs title years are over.
:wakeup

[Sean Cagney]

http://i.imgur.com/ZezApQM.gif
EASILY one of my fave moments of the entire playoffs right there, that is a classic.

[DAF86]

Hahaha Lakers, so cute.

[100%duncan]

Nah, as long as San Antonio has Pop, Buford, and Budenholzer, they'll manage to pull some :cry classy :cry draft move and return to relevance tbh...

And comes Kawhi. Good call bruh. :cry

[Raven]

I can't believe the Lakers get Duhon and Clark as well.

And I can't believe what a shitty trade that is for the Magic.
Underrated nugget tbh :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Shoulda traded Tony Parker for him...

[Brazil]

Shoulda traded Tony Parker for him...

:cry pls O_V

[Obstructed_View]

:cry pls O_V

Language problem, Brazil? If you don't understand something, you should probably ask for help.

[Brazil]

Language problem, Brazil? If you don't understand something, you should probably ask for help.

thanks brah will do

cannot wait the season start to see my nigga Anderson replace Manu

[Obstructed_View]

thanks brah will do

cannot wait the season start to see my nigga Anderson replace Manu

Hope all your butthurt heals up by then.

[Brazil]

Hope all your butthurt heals up by then.

thanks again for your kind words

god bless

[Obstructed_View]

thanks again for your kind words

god bless

Don't you have a bunch of retarded threads to start? Your moronic basketball takes and pushy opinions about what everyone else should be discussing on a message board need a place to bloom. Fly, be free.

[Brazil]

Don't you have a bunch of retarded threads to start? Your moronic basketball takes and pushy opinions about what everyone else should be discussing on a message board need a place to bloom. Fly, be free.

and you are the one talking about butt hurt... seriously brah... take a pill and chill, you seem angry

:cry moronic takes and pushy opinions :cry

pls stop broah you are hurting my feelings

[TheGreatYacht]

Don't you have a bunch of retarded threads to start? Your moronic basketball takes and pushy opinions about what everyone else should be discussing on a message board need a place to bloom. Fly, be free.
Someone's butt hurt lmao

[100%duncan]

Ah, the days when people thought that the Spurs' front court was weakness. Seems so long ago now.

Well they were right. Blair and Bonner played more than Splitter and we had an old Dice. And surprisingly 2014 TD> 2011 TD.