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4down
08-29-2012, 03:42 AM
"D'Souza even sees clues in the book's title: "Notice it says `Dreams From My Father,' not `of' my father," D'Souza says."
:lol Dreams of my Father would have been a stupid title.
No it wouldn't. Either one would work, they would just convey different meanings
Syntax can provide insight... its explained pretty well in the movie an interesting observation, at least
"Dreams of" would convey "these are my dads dreams" (not necessarily mine)
"Dreams from" conveys "these are dreams I inherited from my father"
It matters if your Dad is a staunch anti-colonialist
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 03:56 AM
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George Gervin's Afro
08-29-2012, 05:21 AM
No it wouldn't. Either one would work, they would just convey different meanings
Syntax can provide insight... its explained pretty well in the movie an interesting observation, at least
"Dreams of" would convey "these are my dads dreams" (not necessarily mine)
"Dreams from" conveys "these are dreams I inherited from my father"
It matters if your Dad is a staunch anti-colonialist
or it could simply mean that he thought the title sounded cooler..
lol
question: if is his dad was never in his life, how did these views permeate Obama's life? Osmosis?
Sort of like saying, " I have never met my dad but his views have shaped my outlook on life.."
jack sommerset
08-29-2012, 06:46 AM
On most movie rating sites the ratings are mostly 10s or 1s. God bless
Yonivore
08-29-2012, 09:15 AM
or it could simply mean that he thought the title sounded cooler..
lol
question: if is his dad was never in his life, how did these views permeate Obama's life? Osmosis?
From his mother who, according to Dinesh D'Souza continued to idolize the father long after their separation.
You should see the movie. The scene where Dinesh D'Souza portrays Obama's autobiographical description of returning to his father's grave is particularly poignant.
Sort of like saying, " I have never met my dad but his views have shaped my outlook on life.."
Precisely. How else to explain how much he talks about his father's influence in the autobiography? Dinesh D'Souza didn't just make up the narrative of the movie, he used Obama's own words.
4down
08-29-2012, 10:29 AM
or it could simply mean that he thought the title sounded cooler..
lol
question: if is his dad was never in his life, how did these views permeate Obama's life? Osmosis?
Sort of like saying, " I have never met my dad but his views have shaped my outlook on life.."
Yonivore already touched on your other questions, but that's a fair point - it might just be that he thought it sounded cooler. But that would be pretty flippant if it were the case.
One of the things the movie goes over as well as the way his mom idealized his father is that they kept corresponding a long time after they met.
In any case, if his fathers views hadn't helped shape his life why would he write a book at all about that, regardless of the title?
boutons_deux
08-29-2012, 11:14 AM
So right wingers, what's your bottom line on 2016?
Now you really know why you hate him? :lol
As if you didn't already know Obama and his policies, after he's been 3.5 years in office. :lol
We know WAY MORE about Obama than we do about super secretive Gecko who destroyed/secreted his MA gov records ( a VERY moderate public record, which is why Repug extremists don't trust him), his NoWhereLand Olympic records, and his tax returns.
George Gervin's Afro
08-29-2012, 02:17 PM
Yonivore already touched on your other questions, but that's a fair point - it might just be that he thought it sounded cooler. But that would be pretty flippant if it were the case.
One of the things the movie goes over as well as the way his mom idealized his father is that they kept corresponding a long time after they met.
In any case, if his fathers views hadn't helped shape his life why would he write a book at all about that, regardless of the title?
because it's an autobiography? and parents can shape their children's lives without the children espousing everyone of their views.. is that possible?
So if I wrote a book about my dad and stated that he liked to chase women and gamble.... I then run for office and want to legalize poker, does that mean my dad shaped my world view on gambling?
Yonivore
08-29-2012, 02:49 PM
because it's an autobiography? and parents can shape their children's lives without the children espousing everyone of their views.. is that possible?
So if I wrote a book about my dad and stated that he liked to chase women and gamble.... I then run for office and want to legalize poker, does that mean my dad shaped my world view on gambling?
Have you read the book?
xrayzebra
08-29-2012, 02:52 PM
Yoni, I don't know if you have found the theaters here in SA, but check this link out.
http://events.mysanantonio.com/movies/show/786487-2016-obamas-america
Yonivore
08-29-2012, 03:12 PM
Yoni, I don't know if you have found the theaters here in SA, but check this link out.
http://events.mysanantonio.com/movies/show/786487-2016-obamas-america
Thanks! Saw the movie in Austin last Friday.
George Gervin's Afro
08-29-2012, 03:35 PM
so this movie reinforces what conservatives think about him.. and conservatives say as such... mmk
George Gervin's Afro
08-29-2012, 03:38 PM
I rremember when Paul O'Neil's book came out and he made the claim that immediately after after 9/11 thne decision to invade Iraq was made..which contradicted the administration.... yet yoni and his ilk didn't believe O'neil..called hima disgruntled former employee..now we have a well known Obama critic making a movie about obama that reiniforces conservative veiws.. not a question regarding his motives...
Yonivore
08-29-2012, 03:48 PM
so this movie reinforces what conservatives think about him.. and conservatives say as such... mmk
Actually, it doesn't reinforce what conservatives think about Obama.
Yonivore
08-29-2012, 03:49 PM
I rremember when Paul O'Neil's book came out and he made the claim that immediately after after 9/11 thne decision to invade Iraq was made..which contradicted the administration.... yet yoni and his ilk didn't believe O'neil..called hima disgruntled former employee..now we have a well known Obama critic making a movie about obama that reiniforces conservative veiws.. not a question regarding his motives...
Don't remember any of that enough to know if your mischaracterizing any of it.
Look! Bush!
ChumpDumper
08-29-2012, 03:52 PM
So the board idiots here say we should fear Obama because he is apparently anti-colonialist.
Are the idiots arguing that he should be a colonialist?
Are the idiots themselves colonialists?
BTW, I saw an extensive interview with the idiot who made this film talking about his film, so I don't need to see this piece of shit. We have almost four years of Obama (executive experience!) to tell us what kind of president Obama is going to be for another four years. I can believe the idiots here fell for this because they are idiots. These are the idiots who don't even believe Obama wrote his own autobiography. Make up your minds, idiots. You're just like 9/11 truthers, eagerly believing any pile of shit conspiracy that your gleeful blog overlords shove down your throat and tell you to believe -- as long as you can root for your team.
Ron bless.
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 03:53 PM
Actually, it doesn't reinforce what conservatives think about Obama.
The board liberals will not believe me, I doubt they will believe you either, and are too hard headed to see for themselves.
They are just lemmings of the leftist pundits.
clambake
08-29-2012, 03:55 PM
The board liberals will not believe me, I doubt they will believe you either, and are too hard headed to see for themselves.
They are just lemmings of the leftist pundits.
why is there any need for anybody to see this mormon movie?
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 03:59 PM
why is there any need for anybody to see this mormon movie?
Why do you continually expose your stupidity by calling it a Mormon movie? If you are going to assign religion to who made the movie, it's a Protestant movie.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:02 PM
Why do you continually expose your stupidity by calling it a Mormon movie? If you are going to assign religion to who made the movie, it's a Protestant movie.
its a mormon movie.
have you seen fahrenheit 911?
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 04:02 PM
its a mormon movie.
Liar.
have you seen fahrenheit 911?
Yes.
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:04 PM
I cannot fathom why anyone with a working brain stem would sit and watch this movie.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:04 PM
Liar.
a mormon movie
Yes.
i haven't. why did you need to see that movie?
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:05 PM
a mormon movie
i haven't. why did you need to see that movie?
I did see Roger and Me. Pretty funny.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:05 PM
I cannot fathom why anyone with a working brain stem would sit and watch this movie.
they need to be fed.
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 04:05 PM
I cannot fathom why anyone with a working brain stem would sit and watch this movie.
I guess you don't have a working brain stem then, else you might allow for peoples unique differences.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:06 PM
I did see Roger and Me. Pretty funny.
that was pretty good.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:06 PM
I guess you don't have a working brain stem then, else you might allow for peoples unique differences.
whats unique about needing to be fed?
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:11 PM
I guess you don't have a working brain stem then, else you might allow for peoples unique differences.
I know all about unique differences. I used to work with retarded children. They would probably dig this movie.
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 04:12 PM
I know all about unique differences. I used to work with retarded children. They would probably dig this movie.
If you say so...
Have you seen the movie to be able to make that assessment, or are you being a lemming?
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:13 PM
I know all about unique differences. I used to work with retarded children. They would probably dig this movie.
:lmao
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:13 PM
that was pretty good.
You'd probably like this.
http://www.amazon.com/Rivethead-Tales-Assembly-Ben-Hamper/dp/0446394009
Moore apparently helped Hamper get this book to press. It's a fucking hilarious/not hilarious look at olde GM.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:14 PM
hey teysha, how long did you work with wc?
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:14 PM
If you say so...
Have you seen the movie to be able to make that assessment, or are you being a lemming?
It's not a binary solution set, blog-tard.
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:14 PM
hey teysha, how long did you work with wc?
Work in progress. lol
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:14 PM
Work in progress. lol
:lol
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 04:17 PM
It's not a binary solution set, blog-tard.
Just trying to understand your single minded attitude. I can add more dimensions, but would you understand?
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Actual dimensions, yes. Blog-tarded imaginary dimensions? Probably not.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:18 PM
You'd probably like this.
http://www.amazon.com/Rivethead-Tales-Assembly-Ben-Hamper/dp/0446394009
Moore apparently helped Hamper get this book to press. It's a fucking hilarious/not hilarious look at olde GM.
gonna order that. thanks for suggestion.
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:19 PM
gonna order that. thanks for suggestion.
It's a great read. You'll dig it.:toast I think I've read it 3 or 4 times now.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:21 PM
It's a great read. You'll dig it.:toast I think I've read it 3 or 4 times now.
you wanna drop some acid and go see a mormon movie?
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:27 PM
Is it strong enough to kill brain stems?
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Is it strong enough to kill brain stems?
i got it from wc.
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Strong stuff then. I'm in!
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:32 PM
i'm guessing thats where the magic underwear comes from.
Wild Cobra
08-29-2012, 04:35 PM
I see this is turning into another episode of the Twilight Zone.
You guys can go there without me. Good luck.
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:37 PM
I see this is turning into another episode of the Twilight Zone.
You guys can go there without me. Good luck.
oh, i love the twilight zone. which episode?
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 04:43 PM
oh, i love the twilight zone. which episode?
"Perchance to Dream" Robert Florey Charles Beaumont November 27, 1959 173-3616
A man with a heart condition (Richard Conte) is struggling to stay awake, lest a mystery carnival woman kill him in his dreams
clambake
08-29-2012, 04:47 PM
lol
Yonivore
08-29-2012, 04:50 PM
"Perchance to Dream" Robert Florey Charles Beaumont November 27, 1959 173-3616
A man with a heart condition (Richard Conte) is struggling to stay awake, lest a mystery carnival woman kill him in his dreams
Watched that episode on Netflix a couple of weeks ago. The Twilight Zone is timeless.
TeyshaBlue
08-29-2012, 05:20 PM
Watched that episode on Netflix a couple of weeks ago. The Twilight Zone is timeless.
Holds up well, doesn't it?:toast
DarrinS
08-29-2012, 05:26 PM
To serve man
"It's a cookbook!"
George Gervin's Afro
08-29-2012, 07:27 PM
I haven't done shrooms or dropped a hit of acid for abut 20 yrs now....I'm in
ElNono
11-07-2012, 01:15 AM
Looks like the Kenyan colonialist angle didn't scare enough people, tbh... next time they should probably aim for "killing babies"...
DJ Mbenga
11-07-2012, 01:18 AM
these guys may be spreading stupid shit, but they are also getting rich off it. mad respect
ElNono
11-07-2012, 01:19 AM
these guys may be spreading stupid shit, but they are also getting rich off it. mad respect
true that
ChumpDumper
11-07-2012, 02:09 AM
Looks like the Kenyan colonialist angle didn't scare enough people, tbh... next time they should probably aim for "killing babies"...Yeah, I never really saw Romney as the British colonial empire candidate tbh.
George Gervin's Afro
12-05-2012, 12:54 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/2016-oscar-snub-has-filmmakers-397855
'2016' Oscar Snub Has Filmmakers Claiming Political Bias
poor victims... lol
scott
12-05-2012, 01:48 PM
poor victims... lol
"Gerald Molen, the Oscar-winning producer of Schindler’s List, is claiming political bias because a documentary movie he produced this year isn't up for an Oscar, even though that film, 2016: Obama’s America, made more money at the box office than the combined earning of the 15 films the Academy deemed eligible."
I too lay awake at night lamenting the epic snub of Transformers: Dark of the Moon for Best Picture in 2011.
Spurminator
12-05-2012, 04:49 PM
I can't wait to watch this movie in 4 years and bump this thread.
Wild Cobra
12-05-2012, 04:53 PM
I can't wait to watch this movie in 4 years and bump this thread.
Have you watched it yet?
clambake
12-05-2012, 05:08 PM
Have you watched it yet?
the mormon movie?
Th'Pusher
12-05-2012, 05:12 PM
Have you watched it yet?
No. But we all know you have. Was it awesome?
Spurminator
12-05-2012, 05:15 PM
Have you watched it yet?
No. I'm sure it's plenty funny today, but I feel like this is the kind of comedy that gets better with age, so I'm going to wait a while.
ElNono
12-05-2012, 05:27 PM
I'm waiting for part 2, tbh... "Kenyan Muslim colonizes Guantanamo"
Wild Cobra
12-06-2012, 03:35 AM
No. But we all know you have. Was it awesome?
It was enlightening.
Wild Cobra
12-06-2012, 03:36 AM
I'm waiting for part 2, tbh... "Kenyan Muslim colonizes Guantanamo"
You obviously didn't see it, else you wouldn't think that.
George Gervin's Afro
12-06-2012, 08:26 AM
It was enlightening.
"it made me understand more about Obama and his views"*
sincerely,
WC
*documentary whored by the right
Wild Cobra
12-06-2012, 08:32 AM
"it made me understand more about Obama and his views"*
sincerely,
WC
Close, but no cigar.
It put in context his actions that didn't make sense till now.
ElNono
12-06-2012, 02:38 PM
How about part 3... "Return of the Kenyan"... includes the Luke, I am your father line...
DUNCANownsKOBE
12-06-2012, 02:39 PM
Close, but no cigar.
It put in context his actions that didn't make sense till now.
What actions now make sense and why?
Be specific.
Winehole23
12-10-2012, 04:30 AM
whatever WC said previously addresses that. please try to keep up.
Wild Cobra
12-10-2012, 04:48 AM
whatever WC said previously addresses that. please try to keep up.
I couple days ago, I had a response basically calling him "chumpduncan" for his "be specific." It was one of those posts I left without posting by accident, and didn't come back to redo. I feel said all that's needed. How can you discuss it with someone who didn't watch it anyway?
Spurminator
12-10-2012, 03:08 PM
I couple days ago, I had a response basically calling him "chumpduncan" for his "be specific." It was one of those posts I left without posting by accident, and didn't come back to redo. I feel said all that's needed. How can you discuss it with someone who didn't watch it anyway?
Easily, the same way you'd discuss any other movie, book, TV show, or other work with someone who hasn't seen or read it. Why is this the first film in the history of documentaries that cannot be described by people who have seen it? Eleven pages of discussion, and neither you nor Yonivore has given any specifics whatsoever on any findings or insights gleaned by D'Sousa while making this film. This has been a common theme among others who have told me I need to see the movie.
Were you so taken in by the shadowy cinematography and sinister music that you didn't actually remember any of the details of the film? Were you explicitly told in the movie, "Do not discuss this film with anyone, instead insist that they see it for themselves." Or more succinctly, "Help us make more money!"
clambake
12-10-2012, 03:11 PM
it was a movie about the message "vote for romney"
it didn't work.
Augie
12-10-2012, 03:12 PM
I've seen it.
Back in 2008 I remember being puzzled at the hype surrounded Barack Obama. Fellow students and friends were hanging on every word and I remember celebrations and joyful outbursts floating across campus the night he won. It just didn't make sense to me and I always felt like something wasn't right. Here was a man who came out of nowhere, swooned everyone into loving him, and had no clear experience or new ideas to bring to the table. Now let me state this: I'm a diehard conservative and knew in advance that I was opposed to Obama's ideas. I always felt that something was missing and I couldn't put my finger on what it was about Obama that I found so frightening. I figured he was just incompetent and unable to rise up to the role of Leader of the Free World. That may very well be true. However, 2016: Obama's America finally proposes a theory that makes sense and does it in a compelling and respectful manner.
Dinesh D'Souza did his homework and takes us into Obama's past, present, and the probable future if he retains power in the White House. One thing I really appreciated about this film was that it examines Obama's life and beliefs without being mean-spirited. There are no personal attacks, hateful remarks, or unfair shots. Everything is calmly and easily laid out in a conversational manner, sucking the viewer in without insulting their intelligence. There's also nothing in here about Romney or any Republican candidates. This is solely Obama's film and he is the main focus.
D'Souza's theory is brilliant and he uses Obama's own words to prove his points. For the past few years I kept trying to figure out how Obama could do what he does and why so many harmful and questionable policies have been enacted. D'Souza's assertion that Obama holds an anti-colonial view of America was the missing puzzle piece I was looking for. Granted, only the president himself knows what he really believes. This is simply the theory that makes the most sense and I believe it's spot on. The facts and interviews are very revealing and give D'Souza's commentary the weight they need to really be persuasive. The production values on the film are excellent. This doesn't look like some half-baked documentary or propaganda piece. It moves at a brisk pace and keeps you engaged from start to finish. The last ten minutes are especially chilling and a serious look at what America, as well as the rest of the world, may look like if Obama gets four more years. Any open-minded and serious voter should see this and give it consideration.
If you're an Obama supporter then chances are you've either dismissed this film or haven't seen it, which I'm guessing many of the negative reviews here prove. On the flip side, the detractors will feel validated after watching this and it will probably reiterate what you already know. Every American needs to be informed and make up their own mind after examining all of the facts. This film gave me the confidence to stand by what I've believed since 2008: we really don't know Obama and we can't afford his policies for another term.
clambake
12-10-2012, 03:15 PM
lol
George Gervin's Afro
12-10-2012, 03:24 PM
I've seen it.
Back in 2008 I remember being puzzled at the hype surrounded Barack Obama. Fellow students and friends were hanging on every word and I remember celebrations and joyful outbursts floating across campus the night he won. It just didn't make sense to me and I always felt like something wasn't right. Here was a man who came out of nowhere, swooned everyone into loving him, and had no clear experience or new ideas to bring to the table. Now let me state this: I'm a diehard conservative and knew in advance that I was opposed to Obama's ideas. I always felt that something was missing and I couldn't put my finger on what it was about Obama that I found so frightening. I figured he was just incompetent and unable to rise up to the role of Leader of the Free World. That may very well be true. However, 2016: Obama's America finally proposes a theory that makes sense and does it in a compelling and respectful manner.
Dinesh D'Souza did his homework and takes us into Obama's past, present, and the probable future if he retains power in the White House. One thing I really appreciated about this film was that it examines Obama's life and beliefs without being mean-spirited. There are no personal attacks, hateful remarks, or unfair shots. Everything is calmly and easily laid out in a conversational manner, sucking the viewer in without insulting their intelligence. There's also nothing in here about Romney or any Republican candidates. This is solely Obama's film and he is the main focus.
D'Souza's theory is brilliant and he uses Obama's own words to prove his points. For the past few years I kept trying to figure out how Obama could do what he does and why so many harmful and questionable policies have been enacted. D'Souza's assertion that Obama holds an anti-colonial view of America was the missing puzzle piece I was looking for. Granted, only the president himself knows what he really believes. This is simply the theory that makes the most sense and I believe it's spot on. The facts and interviews are very revealing and give D'Souza's commentary the weight they need to really be persuasive. The production values on the film are excellent. This doesn't look like some half-baked documentary or propaganda piece. It moves at a brisk pace and keeps you engaged from start to finish. The last ten minutes are especially chilling and a serious look at what America, as well as the rest of the world, may look like if Obama gets four more years. Any open-minded and serious voter should see this and give it consideration.
If you're an Obama supporter then chances are you've either dismissed this film or haven't seen it, which I'm guessing many of the negative reviews here prove. On the flip side, the detractors will feel validated after watching this and it will probably reiterate what you already know. Every American needs to be informed and make up their own mind after examining all of the facts. This film gave me the confidence to stand by what I've believed since 2008: we really don't know Obama and we can't afford his policies for another term.
so it reinforced your view of who Obama 'actually' is...
tell us what is going to happen during the next four years? should I be scared?
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:27 PM
When does he start talking about Obama?
All he's doing is jerking off so far.
lol Dartmouth renegades.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:30 PM
Crofl "Cruel to be Kind" soundtrack for the Reagan years.
Can you talk about Obama now, please?
Finally. 10 minutes in.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:32 PM
Oh, fuck -- now he's talking about himself compared to Obama.
Augie
12-10-2012, 03:32 PM
so it reinforced your view of who Obama 'actually' is...
tell us what is going to happen during the next four years? should I be scared?
Obama inherited some problems, but what he did with the country as president in the last 3 ½ years hasn't helped and I would argue he has harmed the American economy and the American way of life. This movie pretty much backs that argument up.
What Obama inherited was an economy at 3.3% GDP. Our GDP has decreased to 1.3% now.
Gas prices were under 2 bucks when Obama came in, what are they now? Over 4 bucks?
He inherited a national debt of 10 trillion and he increased it to 16 trillion, squandering money at a record rate.
Obama vetoed the Keystone Pipeline. He also put a stop to offshore drilling.
Obama gave millions of dollars in loans to Solyndra and other green energy companies owned by his cronies that went bankrupt.
Since his leadership our soldiers have come back in body bags at twice the rate they did under Bush.
Obama said we'd be out of the war by now. He lied.
Obama took over GM and Chrysler. The Volt is what they have to show for it, a car whose battery catches fire and costs more to make than they can sell it for. This is just typical government incompetence and an argument for free market capitalism that has budgets and whose aim is to make money and not lose it.
The most striking thing about Obama is his lack of compassion for American citizens. There are 23 million Americans who don't have jobs, Americans who have not been able to work because the cost of gas is too much for them to commute, more Americans on foodstamps than ever before in history, and this joker of a president is flying his family around on multiple vacations that cost the American taxpayer hundreds of thousands of dollars. He's neglecting meetings with world leaders so he can hob nob with celebrities on The View and host fund raisers with rappers. He could care less about the suffering of Americans. Why? Why do you think he is so heartless? Well, this movie addresses that. His principles, his prime directive overrides compassion. This movie discusses how his background, how he was raised, his belief system and uses Obama in his own words to explain his actions since he's been in office to explain the real reasons for the bad policies he's created that have caused so much suffering for so many Americans.
This movie was very factual and informative. It's worth watching. All of America is his victim until he's voted out.
If you've been watching the sycophants at MSNBC or CBS, PBS or CNN telling you differently, that everything is fine, that nothing bad is Obama's fault you're being lied to. News flash: those aren't actual news outlets anymore. They are Democrat propaganda machines. If you want to know actual news, I'd recommend FOX or the new media online: Breitbart, Blaze, Newsmax, Drudge Report, Daily Caller. Those guys report actual news and unlike the mainstream media they actually love our country and want it to thrive.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:37 PM
Why are you just pasting Amazon reviews?
Augie
12-10-2012, 03:43 PM
The film is a slick thinly veiled piece of "neo-Birther" propaganda. D'Souza would have the viewer believe that President Obama is an anti-colonial ideologue who is mired in the world view purportedly espoused by his father.
D'Souza uses "iffy history", innuendo and clearly manipulates many of his interviewees by asking leading questions designed to illicit answers that fulfill his own ends. The D'Souza method is a throw back to the Big Lie Theory of the mid-20th century and should be viewed as such. The film fails to rise to the level of history and lacks even a minimum of journalistic integrity.
Simply stated this documentary represents the worst kind of scholarship and reportage. Given the outcome of our recent election, the film happily fails. D'Souza's work is an insult to the intelligence of a majority of Americans and should be relegated to the ash heap of revisionist history.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:44 PM
This movie is hilarious.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:50 PM
This "feature" could have been 30 minutes long without all the padding and masturbation.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm supposed to take this motherfucker seriously after watching him try to hula dance?
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 03:57 PM
OK, now I get to watch him talking on the phone.
TeyshaBlue
12-10-2012, 03:57 PM
This "feature" could have been 30 minutes long without all the padding and masturbation.
You're a braver (or drunker) lad than I.
TeyshaBlue
12-10-2012, 03:58 PM
The film is a slick thinly veiled piece of "neo-Birther" propaganda. D'Souza would have the viewer believe that President Obama is an anti-colonial ideologue who is mired in the world view purportedly espoused by his father.
D'Souza uses "iffy history", innuendo and clearly manipulates many of his interviewees by asking leading questions designed to illicit answers that fulfill his own ends. The D'Souza method is a throw back to the Big Lie Theory of the mid-20th century and should be viewed as such. The film fails to rise to the level of history and lacks even a minimum of journalistic integrity.
Simply stated this documentary represents the worst kind of scholarship and reportage. Given the outcome of our recent election, the film happily fails. D'Souza's work is an insult to the intelligence of a majority of Americans and should be relegated to the ash heap of revisionist history.
Pretty much the Michael Moore school of documentaries, tbh.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:04 PM
lol implies his life was in danger in Kenya trying to interview Obama's family.
boutons_deux
12-10-2012, 04:09 PM
Pretty much the Michael Moore school of documentaries, tbh.
MM's documentaries are holding on very well, macaca d'Souza's bullshit propaganda just got curb stomped by 100+ electoral votes and +5M popular votes.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:12 PM
Family interviews were particularly worthless.
TeyshaBlue
12-10-2012, 04:14 PM
MM's documentaries are holding on very well
:lmao:lmao:lmao
cantthinkofanything
12-10-2012, 04:15 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
no shit. I actually checked MM's filmography to try to find out what boutshit might have been talking about.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:18 PM
lol 100% tax rate
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:19 PM
Yay, another phone call!
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:22 PM
So Obama fooled all the whiteys by not acting angry.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:24 PM
Obama was elected because -- get this -- people liked him.
Some amazing insight here.
TeyshaBlue
12-10-2012, 04:25 PM
I'd much prefer MST3k tbh.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:25 PM
Bill Ayers -- drink!
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:31 PM
Again with the fucking Churchill bust.
Republicans are really butthurt about that.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:34 PM
lol Barack is punishing his brother for not being anticolonial enough.
Bartleby
12-10-2012, 04:35 PM
Why are you just pasting Amazon reviews?
:lol
cantthinkofanything
12-10-2012, 04:35 PM
Again with the fucking Churchill bust.
Republicans are really butthurt about that.
you seem really devoted to making sure that we all know you don't agree with the movie. why do you give a shit?
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:36 PM
Hey, D'Souza's talking more about himself!
cantthinkofanything
12-10-2012, 04:37 PM
Hey, D'Souza's talking more about himself!
irony! I like it.
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:37 PM
you seem really devoted to making sure that we all know you don't agree with the movie. why do you give a shit?Just showing I watched it.
Why do you care so much if I care?
cantthinkofanything
12-10-2012, 04:38 PM
Just showing I watched it.
Why do you care so much if I care?
just curious, that's all
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:40 PM
just curious, that's allAs was I.
cantthinkofanything
12-10-2012, 04:41 PM
As was I.
no...I didn't mean like that
Th'Pusher
12-10-2012, 04:41 PM
I'm enjoying the play by play. God knows I won't be watching that Mormon movie on my own behalf.
Juggity
12-10-2012, 04:45 PM
:lol D'Souza
:lol hypocrite
:lol fired from his position as president of a college for being a hypocrite
:lol failed attempt to convince voters that Romney would be a better president than Obama
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:46 PM
Wow, Obama's re-election means US gives up all its nukes and the middle east from Morocco to Pakistan forms a new radical Muslim caliphate.
He even named it -- The United States of Islam. :lmao
ChumpDumper
12-10-2012, 04:54 PM
ZOMG! Indoctrinated child choirs singing "Yes We Can!"
D'Souza's unintentional best line: "The first time we did not know Barack Obama. Now we do."
That's why he was re-elected. All the scary bullshit people like D'Souza predicted back in 2008 just didn't happen. His spiel here was "No, he's just been waiting to be re-elected -- then all the scary shit is going to happen!"
I can see how the chain email and talk radio folks would eat this shit up, but it's easy to see why this film made zero difference in this election.
ElNono
12-10-2012, 10:59 PM
http://www.amazon.com/2016-Obamas-America-Dinesh-DSouza/product-reviews/B0094V8OXG
ElNono
12-10-2012, 11:02 PM
oops Chump beat me to it
boutons_deux
12-11-2012, 09:32 AM
scumbag d'Souza has plenty of scumbag company
Cathie Adams: Obama Needs a Teleprompter 'Because He Fried His Brain on Drugs'
Adams' presentation was largely based on Mark Levin's book "Ameritopia (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1439173273)" as she set out to explain exactly how "Barack Hussein Obama," as she repeatedly referred to him, was using the so-called "green agenda" as cover to implement Marxism in America. As Adams saw it, talk of "sustainable development" or "social justice" are just code words for Marxism, leading to an odd claim that the conflicts that plague the continent of Africa would end when the people of Africa learn to "turn their hearts toward their creator."
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cathie-adams-obama-needs-teleprompter-because-he-fried-his-brain-drugs
For some totally unmysterious reasons, these nutcases' "causes" align perfectly with 1%/corporate/Repug agendas.
Edward
12-11-2012, 10:48 AM
^:lmao
Edward
12-11-2012, 10:52 AM
Gas prices were under 2 bucks when Obama came in, what are they now? Over 4 bucks?
The amount of intellectual dishonestly behind this argument never stops being funny.
boutons_deux
12-11-2012, 11:35 AM
Another right-wing shitbag, Repug JINO on SCOTUS. Another reason St Ronnie dumped a ton of shit on USA.
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia told an audience at Princeton University on Monday that comparing same sex coupling to bestiality and murder is politically “effective.” According to the Associated Press (AP) (http://www.salon.com/2012/12/11/scalia_its_effective_to_draw_parallels_between_mur der_and_sodomy/), Scalia was explaining to a question by a gay student, Duncan Hosie, who asked the conservative judge why he considers it necessary to draw parallels between laws banning LGBT sex and laws banning bestiality and murder.
“I don’t think it’s necessary, but I think it’s effective,” Scalia replied, adding that he believes legislative bodies are within their purview to ban acts that they believe are immoral.
http://1.rp-api.com/3681863/via.pngRaw Story (http://s.tt/1wAtx) (http://s.tt/1wAtx)
Who defines morality? ethics?
Judges should occupy themselves with the law, not morality nor ethics.
cantthinkofanything
12-11-2012, 02:45 PM
The amount of intellectual dishonestly behind this argument never stops being funny.
that works both ways. Obama bragging about the increased amount of oil/gas drilling while he's been in office.
Edward
12-11-2012, 03:14 PM
Obama bragging about the increased amount of oil/gas drilling while he's been in office.
How is that intellectually dishonest?
Be specific.
cantthinkofanything
12-11-2012, 03:15 PM
How is that intellectually dishonest?
Be specific.
he was taking credit for it
Edward
12-11-2012, 03:19 PM
he was taking credit for it
Doesn't answer my question.
cantthinkofanything
12-11-2012, 03:21 PM
Doesn't answer my question.
http://meridianinteractive.com/isi/blog/charts/worldwide-oil-price.jpg
ChumpDumper
12-11-2012, 03:26 PM
Wow, so the e-mails saying Obama is killing oil production are wrong!
cantthinkofanything
12-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Wow, so the e-mails saying Obama is killing oil production are wrong!
LOL. You guys...
Edward
12-11-2012, 03:33 PM
http://meridianinteractive.com/isi/blog/charts/worldwide-oil-price.jpg
Anyone with marginally competent analytical skills can look at that chart and see under Obama US Oil Drilling became a greater percentage of the world's total oil drilling and thus increased at a higher rate than the rest of the world's oil drilling, so if you're trying to say he's intellectually dishonest because oil drilling went up in the rest of the world too, try again.
cantthinkofanything
12-11-2012, 03:35 PM
Anyone with marginally competent analytical skills can look at that chart and see under Obama US Oil Drilling became a greater percentage of the world's total oil drilling and thus increased at a higher rate than the rest of the world's oil drilling, so if you're trying to say he's intellectually dishonest because oil drilling went up in the rest of the world too, try again.
are you saying that the increased drilling in the U.S. should in fact be credited to Obama?
cantthinkofanything
12-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Anyone with marginally competent analytical skills can look at that chart and see under Obama US Oil Drilling became a greater percentage of the world's total oil drilling and thus increased at a higher rate than the rest of the world's oil drilling, so if you're trying to say he's intellectually dishonest because oil drilling went up in the rest of the world too, try again.
and by the way, anyone with competent analytical skills would realize that chart doesn't provide enough information to make those assumptions about oil drilling
Winehole23
05-20-2014, 11:33 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2634112/Conservative-author-anti-Obama-filmmaker-pleads-GUILTY-funneling-campaign-cash-girlfriend-college-classmate-ran-US-Senate.html
Spurminator
03-17-2016, 04:30 PM
So has anybody gone back to mark off which of the doomsday scenarios in this film ended up happening?
So has anybody gone back to mark off which of the doomsday scenarios in this film ended up happening?
Same guy:
r7e6gLht6OQ&ebc
Blake
03-17-2016, 06:14 PM
Just came back from watching the show. It's pretty good. It is in no way a partisan hitpiece like what Michael Moore does. It is well done and thorough, all fact, and no birther stuff. I challenge all you liberals to watch it and find fault in the facts presented.
It's mostly a history of Obama's life from his books and people in Obama's life. D'Souza actually talks to many of the people alive that knew Obama and his parents. He uses from what I'm guessing, Obama's own words from his books on tape as well.
I would say that he presents a peek into Obama that no one has ever considered before. The picture he paints is the Obama is anti-colonialist. D'Souza relates to this well being from India, and follows the traces of Obamas past.
Hint...
Remember the number 47544.
Ok, what was up with the number 47544
Blake
03-17-2016, 06:15 PM
Is it really that stupid?
I have seen indications all along he is out to destroy America.
:LOL
Blake
03-17-2016, 06:18 PM
Sure, I could if I searched enough.
He has. It's out there. Just not worth my time. Others know it happened, I don't care if you believe me or not.
And "double dog daring" me isn't going to work, so please don't go to "chump mode."
You're completely full of shit.
You know you can't do it, so you're going into Wild Cobra mode and whining about me.
Why do you keep repeating this false allegation?
not false. its out there. just not worth my time. others know it happened, i don't care if you believe me or not.
You're completely full of shit.
You know you can't do it, so you're going into clambake mode and whining about me.
:lol
baseline bum
03-17-2016, 06:19 PM
Same guy:
r7e6gLht6OQ&ebc
Holy fuck, more of the Republicans as the party of Lincoln horseshit? :lmao
ElNono
03-17-2016, 11:16 PM
crofl
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