The Los Angeles Lakers will win the 2012 title - and easily

[lefty]

EDIT : I meant 2013 :lol


Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot

Too talented, too deep, too experienced, incredibly well coached, and no "I"m no diva and no hot head on the team


Congrats Laker fans ........ I guess :pctoss

[Venti Quattro]

fuck you terrorist

[lefty]

fuck you terrorist
RVP :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

There definitely won't be any devastating injuries.

[DeadlyDynasty]

OP will die a horrible, AIDS-related death...one of isolation and degradation.

[Venti Quattro]

OP will die a horrible, AIDS-related death...one of isolation and degradation.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[pass1st]

How the fuck are they gonna win the 2012 title?

[Venti Quattro]

How the fuck are they gonna win the 2012 title?

:lol lefty
:lol turban
:lol Algeria
:lol terrorists
:lol stuck in a dungeon
:lol living underground forever
:lol not knowing the date and time

[The Gemini Method]

:lol Tunisia

[lefty]

Oh shit I meant 2013 :lmao

[pass1st]

:lol Lefty losing his jinxing ability

[LkrFan]

lefty with the last year bads! :lol

[Venti Quattro]

lefty wanted to go vintage, so he turned back the clock in this thread

[lefty]

:lol Lefty losing his jinxing ability
Actually this thread worked, since you didnt win the title in 2012 :D

[DeadlyDynasty]

Actually this thread worked, since you didnt win the title in 2012 :D
:lolWow. Stay gold, Ponyboy

[NRHector]

Actually this thread worked, since you didnt win the title in 2012 :D

:lol

[pass1st]

Actually this thread worked, since you didnt win the title in 2012 :D

Spurs will never win a title from 1976 to 1998 :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Spurs will never win a title from 1976 to 1998 :downspin:

:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

EDIT : I meant 2013 :lol


Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot

Too talented, too deep, too experienced, incredibly well coached, and no "I"m no diva and no hot head on the team


Congrats Laker fans ........ I guess :pctoss


It's going to take a lot of hard work, dedication, and determination...we'll work hard and respect our opponents...we will win and lose with the grace and humility of a champion....:toast

In fact Go Spurs...god speed to you and yours

[Koolaid_Man]

Check out Dwight Howards singing skills he pretty good...how can you not like this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRxwIlFieJ0

[Budkin]

Check out Dwight Howards singing skills he pretty good...how can you not like this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRxwIlFieJ0

I loved the guy until he turned into the ultimate crybaby drama queen.

[Budkin]

Oh and if Dwight is healthy I don't see how anyone can beat the Lakers. That's why the rest of the league is so pissed. It's theirs to lose.

[Koolaid_Man]

I loved the guy until he turned into the ultimate crybaby drama queen.


give the guy a break he's a young kid...he's never run afoul of the law, gives back to the community, and is genuine in his concern for others...he was likely duped by those guys in New Jersey...hey take a look at what he's capable of...and ask yourself is it worth it disliking such a great player...

This was taken from LG posters but it's Dwight's games last year prior to the surgery..

VS.Miami Heat:
25 Points 24 Rebounds
12 Points 15 Rebounds
24 Points 25 Rebounds
18 Points 11 Rebounds

VS.LA Clippers:
33 Points 14 Rebounds

VS.OKC Thunder:
33 Points 9 Rebounds

VS. SA Spurs
24 Points 25 Rebounds
22 Points 11 Rebounds

VS. Celtics (From 2011)
33 Points 13 Rebounds
28 Points 13 Rebounds

[Koolaid_Man]

This article brought tears to my eyes as well...

Last year, on a team where Marcin Gortat (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1188/marcin-gortat) was the second-best player on the team and the rest of the roster was at best inconsistent and at worst a hot mess, Steve Nash (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/417/steve-nash)‘s passes out of the pick and roll lead to scoring 59.5% of the time, which was best among players with 100 possessions, according to Synergy Sports. So he was literally the best pick and roll passer in the leauge.


Last year, on a team where Jameer Nelson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1060/jameer-nelson) had injury issues, the entire team has chemistry problems related to the ongoing drama, and the offense was primarily geared around perimeter shooters (oh, and he was injured), Dwight Howard (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1041/dwight-howard) scored as the pick and roll man 73.7% of the time, which was best in the league.


So they have literally paired the best pick and roll passing guard with the best pick and roll finisher in the league.


Ready for some more crack analysis?


As a result, the Lakers are going to be pretty good.


The Nash-Howard dynamic on the floor is the most dangerous element the Lakers will have in play. Kobe Bryant (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/430/kobe-bryant) is still an elite scorer. Pau Gasol (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/766/pau-gasol) and Steve Nash will have a fantastic mastery of the pick and pop set. But Nash-Howard, long before the Lakers entered the picture, was the perfect combination. A point guard who can deliver the ball to any point on the floor combined with the most athletic big man with excellent feel for the pick and roll spacing. If you cover the roll, Nash shoots, and he shoots 55 percent from that situation. Bring help and either Gasol has a mid-range jumper or Bryant is open on the cut or catch. It’s the BFG of offense.


And it’s indicative of the real reason this team will be so dangerous. It fits together better than any superteam in recent memory.


The stellar combinations of talent that have accumulated over the past five seasons have all been dynamic, impressive combinations of ability. But the Celtics, with a high-usage self-creating small forward, a spot-up shooter wing, and a hyper-versatile combo forward? The Celtics’ were dominant precisely because they were willing to commit themselves to something greater than their original talents. They sacrificed for a greater concept. It was a good offense, but not an elite one. The Heat? They’ve learned to play together, but the reason they’ve struggled over the past two years is because versatile combo-point-forward mixed with ISO slashing shooting guard, and traditional stretch four? It’s not a perfect mix. The Knicks…. yeah, the Knicks. The Lakers bring something entirely different.


Nash fits well with Gasol’s ability to spread the floor, and can create open looks for Bryant, something that he doesn’t do on his own. But Nash with Howard maximizes both of their abilities. They only way to properly defend it is to bring help defenders, and at that point you’ve got Kobe Bryant or Pau Gasol (or Metta World Peace (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/620/metta-world-peace) or Jodie Meeks (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1594/jodie-meeks) or Steve Blake (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/964/steve-blake)) with enough space to allow them to make a sandwich before they shoot.


But all that’s on paper.


There’s a million ways the Lakers can fall apart. Chemistry, injuries (Howard’s back, in particular), good ol’ fashioned age, the simple fact that despite all the evidence to the contrary, things on paper don’t just go together. Mike Brown’s coaching is widely held as suspect, and Bryant’s willingness to let go of the reins is not exactly something you can count on. The lesson from the Heat should be that it isn’t that simple. That it does take time to click, and that talent isn’t everything.


But the formula the Lakers have put together isn’t one built on just raw talent. It’s a special combination of skills. Bringing in a player that can pass like Nash is one thing, but pick and roll is his bread and butter. And Dwight Howard’s one big piece of toast.
The trick here is to not overestimate what the Laker are capable of, to not overstate their ceiling by talking about nonsense like 72 wins or a title right off the bat, but to also recognize and respect the brilliance of what the Lakers have put together. They could have gotten sub-stars at redundant positions, or shuffled the same pieces. Acquiring just Nash and you have a dominant team that still is trying to find the right ways to go together. Just get Howard, and you have size but nothing to figure out how the pieces fit together.


But instead, this combination is going to bring something more dangerous than anything else the Lakers have. Let’s be clear. If Kobe Byant were to vanish from existence tomorrow like in “Back to the Future,” just vanish into nothing, the Lakers would still be dominant because of the strength of how much better Nash makes every player around him and how strong Howard is as a finisher and defensively.


There’s room to admit that the Lakers have a lot of challenges and risks, including Howard’s back, their age, and to acknowledge just how good this team will be, and why.


If the Lakers are healthy, and there’s no personality conflict, the league is in trouble. Because if they’re not unguardable, they’ll be as close as it gets.


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/the-inbounds-nash-howard-and-an-impossible-sword/#comments

[Latarian Milton]

EDIT : I meant 2013 :lol


Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot

Too talented, too deep, too experienced, incredibly well coached, and no "I"m no diva and no hot head on the team


Congrats Laker fans ........ I guess :pctoss

just because spurs don't have a chance it doesn't mean no one else can tbh. fakers still have no depth and DH is likely to sit out till allstar break, hope they can sustain a squad with Pau at C tbh

[racm]

True... they'll probably go with a starting five of Gasol/Jamison/MWP/Kobe/Nash until mid November....

[DeadlyDynasty]

just because spurs don't have a chance it doesn't mean no one else can tbh. fakers still have no depth and DH is likely to sit out till allstar break, hope they can sustain a squad with Pau at C tbh
They have some depth now.

[NRHector]

They have some depth now.

but they still have Kobe and he'll be the weak link, he's not a team player

[whitemamba]

This article brought tears to my eyes as well...

Last year, on a team where Marcin Gortat (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1188/marcin-gortat) was the second-best player on the team and the rest of the roster was at best inconsistent and at worst a hot mess, Steve Nash (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/417/steve-nash)‘s passes out of the pick and roll lead to scoring 59.5% of the time, which was best among players with 100 possessions, according to Synergy Sports. So he was literally the best pick and roll passer in the leauge.


Last year, on a team where Jameer Nelson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1060/jameer-nelson) had injury issues, the entire team has chemistry problems related to the ongoing drama, and the offense was primarily geared around perimeter shooters (oh, and he was injured), Dwight Howard (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1041/dwight-howard) scored as the pick and roll man 73.7% of the time, which was best in the league.


So they have literally paired the best pick and roll passing guard with the best pick and roll finisher in the league.


Ready for some more crack analysis?


As a result, the Lakers are going to be pretty good.


The Nash-Howard dynamic on the floor is the most dangerous element the Lakers will have in play. Kobe Bryant (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/430/kobe-bryant) is still an elite scorer. Pau Gasol (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/766/pau-gasol) and Steve Nash will have a fantastic mastery of the pick and pop set. But Nash-Howard, long before the Lakers entered the picture, was the perfect combination. A point guard who can deliver the ball to any point on the floor combined with the most athletic big man with excellent feel for the pick and roll spacing. If you cover the roll, Nash shoots, and he shoots 55 percent from that situation. Bring help and either Gasol has a mid-range jumper or Bryant is open on the cut or catch. It’s the BFG of offense.


And it’s indicative of the real reason this team will be so dangerous. It fits together better than any superteam in recent memory.


The stellar combinations of talent that have accumulated over the past five seasons have all been dynamic, impressive combinations of ability. But the Celtics, with a high-usage self-creating small forward, a spot-up shooter wing, and a hyper-versatile combo forward? The Celtics’ were dominant precisely because they were willing to commit themselves to something greater than their original talents. They sacrificed for a greater concept. It was a good offense, but not an elite one. The Heat? They’ve learned to play together, but the reason they’ve struggled over the past two years is because versatile combo-point-forward mixed with ISO slashing shooting guard, and traditional stretch four? It’s not a perfect mix. The Knicks…. yeah, the Knicks. The Lakers bring something entirely different.


Nash fits well with Gasol’s ability to spread the floor, and can create open looks for Bryant, something that he doesn’t do on his own. But Nash with Howard maximizes both of their abilities. They only way to properly defend it is to bring help defenders, and at that point you’ve got Kobe Bryant or Pau Gasol (or Metta World Peace (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/620/metta-world-peace) or Jodie Meeks (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1594/jodie-meeks) or Steve Blake (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/964/steve-blake)) with enough space to allow them to make a sandwich before they shoot.


But all that’s on paper.


There’s a million ways the Lakers can fall apart. Chemistry, injuries (Howard’s back, in particular), good ol’ fashioned age, the simple fact that despite all the evidence to the contrary, things on paper don’t just go together. Mike Brown’s coaching is widely held as suspect, and Bryant’s willingness to let go of the reins is not exactly something you can count on. The lesson from the Heat should be that it isn’t that simple. That it does take time to click, and that talent isn’t everything.


But the formula the Lakers have put together isn’t one built on just raw talent. It’s a special combination of skills. Bringing in a player that can pass like Nash is one thing, but pick and roll is his bread and butter. And Dwight Howard’s one big piece of toast.
The trick here is to not overestimate what the Laker are capable of, to not overstate their ceiling by talking about nonsense like 72 wins or a title right off the bat, but to also recognize and respect the brilliance of what the Lakers have put together. They could have gotten sub-stars at redundant positions, or shuffled the same pieces. Acquiring just Nash and you have a dominant team that still is trying to find the right ways to go together. Just get Howard, and you have size but nothing to figure out how the pieces fit together.


But instead, this combination is going to bring something more dangerous than anything else the Lakers have. Let’s be clear. If Kobe Byant were to vanish from existence tomorrow like in “Back to the Future,” just vanish into nothing, the Lakers would still be dominant because of the strength of how much better Nash makes every player around him and how strong Howard is as a finisher and defensively.


There’s room to admit that the Lakers have a lot of challenges and risks, including Howard’s back, their age, and to acknowledge just how good this team will be, and why.


If the Lakers are healthy, and there’s no personality conflict, the league is in trouble. Because if they’re not unguardable, they’ll be as close as it gets.


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/the-inbounds-nash-howard-and-an-impossible-sword/#comments


damn, that sounds amazing on paper, 60% and 73%, pick and rolls, nash shooting 55% Pau and kobe on the elbow and wing, how the fuck are you going to gaurd that. there is no defense, or team that can stop that.


just because spurs don't have a chance it doesn't mean no one else can tbh. fakers still have no depth and DH is likely to sit out till allstar break, hope they can sustain a squad with Pau at C tbh

like the article says, steve nash pick n roll works 60% of the time, it doesnt matter whos playing with him, every one around him is good simply because he makes them better:downspin:

[Duncan2177]

The lakers are not winning a championship with Mike Brown as there head coach. Book it

[lefty]

The lakers are not winning a championship with Mike Brown as there head coach. Book it
Mike Brown might be replaced during the season

[Clipper Nation]

Mike Brown might be replaced during the season

By who? Phil is holding out for a front office job or maybe the Heat job, and there's no chance in hell of Jerry Sloan being Food Stamps and Dwight's babysitter, tbh....

[Venti Quattro]

The Heat job? :rollin

Don't you know Phil and Pat's history? They FUCKING HATE each other.

[Clipper Nation]

The Heat job? :rollin

Don't you know Phil and Pat's history? They FUCKING HATE each other.

LeClass' greatness can unite Phil and Pat, tbh.... also, Phil had a rocky relationship with the Bulls' front office during his time in Chicago, yet stayed for MJ and Pippen.....

[jeebus]

lefty with the jinx goods

[Brunodf]

Lakers got this

[racm]

:lmao

[Banzai]

Shitty thread tbh. But truth unfortunately.

[racm]

Mike Brown might be replaced during the season lefty, can you tell me tomorrow's lottery numbers or who gets the 1st overall pick

[Clipper Nation]

By who? Phil is holding out for a front office job or maybe the Heat job, and there's no chance in hell of Jerry Sloan being Food Stamps and Dwight's babysitter, tbh....

The goods, tbh... neither Phil nor Sloan got hired... :lol

[DMX7]

EDIT : I meant 2013 :lol


Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot

Too talented, too deep, too experienced, incredibly well coached, and no "I"m no diva and no hot head on the team


Congrats Laker fans ........ I guess :pctoss

Sure you didn't mean 2014? lol

[baseline bum]

LOL Lakers = 1999 Rockets

:cry No way we don't win a title adding Scottie to a lineup with Dream and Charles :cry

[Clipper Nation]

Oh and if Dwight is healthy I don't see how anyone can beat the Lakers. That's why the rest of the league is so pissed. It's theirs to lose.
Good call, tbh....

[Spurs9]

Good call, tbh....

:lol

[td4mvp2k]

Good call, tbh....

:lmao

[Juggity]

Hall of Fame level jinx by lefty

[Robz4000]

:lmao good shit

[monosylab1k]

Lefty using his jinx powers for good tbh

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/4517923/kai-smash-o.gif

[Budkin]

Good call, tbh....

Damn was I wrong, and glad too! :lol

[racm]

lefty = GOAT jinx

[irishock]

Holy fuck Lefty is the man

[lefty]

Nice bump, CN :lol

[NRHector]

Mike Brown might be replaced during the season

:worthy:

[lefty]

This thread will be really GOAT material if the Lakers get the 8th spot and actually win the title

[spurraider21]

This thread will be really GOAT material if the Lakers get the 8th spot and actually win the title
:lmao sticking the fork in 'em

[lefty]

bump :lol

[Arcadian]

Wow, if the OP was being serious, this is one of the worst threads ever created.

[lefty]

no I'm jinxing

[LkrFan]

Wow, if the OP was being serious, this is one of the worst threads ever created.
Stop being a faggot.

[lefty]

Stop being a faggot.
:lol

[Arcadian]

Stop being a faggot.

1) I said "if"
2) Jinxing is bullshit - so therefore, this is still one of the worst threads ever created
3) :lol 9th place, fuck you

[lefty]

Bump

I'm really sorry Kobe




















Nah I'm not

[irishock]

:lmao

[irishock]

:lol lefty still the GOAT jinxer in the forum

[lefty]

Bump faggots !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Calispursfan11]

LOL, the jinx worked a little too well