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CubanMustGo
08-16-2012, 11:08 AM
(The author is trying to raise some money to help Pop Herring out, since MJ apparently won't - see http://www.indiegogo.com/showpopsomelove)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/thomas_lake/08/13/letter-to-michael-jordan/index.html

A letter to Michael Jordan: Shame on you for refusing to help Pop http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAC0AAAAUCAIAAAC WDSOoAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAAU5JREFUSEtj/Pfv35NXX95++P77zz8GugNWFiYRAU5pMR6GRy8+Xb//9vW7r28GAr1++wVo++MXnxjO3Xj56u2XAXEExFKg7edvvGQ4de X5ADoCYjXQDVjckVCxxjpyBh4EVEBdp2N3B35HQGQHzB3FXdv+ gwGQQYw7iFED9wwJ4QF0wdOXn/YfvZ1UvgjNDqxcGroD6Ah4lCHHC1Yrqe+OwJwls1efBobH+Rsv gAwgl6TwgCvG6gd8+QUtncJTBq70gSdekB0BD0LMoCItfQDDg5 h4gViDlq3Q/IaW3WjrDohrIFbiTy443ZHTvBkNASPl3qN3EEEy0geyFhLiBdM dwGoZjzuQ4wseL2gJguR0Ciy25VwbLEOnAEmsDDqV69Qts4kxD ZQ+gHXuoKj3gW2QAWwHAYMA2g4CJkCgUy7cfAUMHPojoL2PX34 CugEAZwNKO/hX+zQAAAAASUVORK5CYII=

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Pop Herring, Michael Jordan's former high school coach, could use a hand to keep up his house, a caregiver, even just a new pair of sneakers.
Bill Frakes/SI

Dear Michael Jordan,

I heard Pop Herring was in jail so I drove up to see him the other night. You remember Pop, your basketball coach at Laney High in Wilmington, N.C. The man who opened the gym at 6 a.m. so you could work on that jumper. The man who let you borrow his car and had you over to his house and treated you like a son. The man who put you on jayvee in your sophomore year. Didn't cut you, as you always said after that, although at the time it probably felt like a cut. I guess it still does, or did in 2009, when you were inducted into the Hall of Fame, and you addressed Pop directly without actually using his name and said, regarding his failure to put you on varsity, "I wanted to make sure you understood: You made a mistake, dude."

Well, it was your mistake. You used what should have been a joyful occasion to call out a man for something he did not actually do. A sick and indigent man at that. As we both know, Pop's life fell apart after you left town. Not his fault. A disease ran in his family, paranoid schizophrenia or some such thing, and he started acting strange, and he lost his job, and his wife, and his daughter, and pretty much everything else. Took to drinking, as you or I might do in similar circumstances.

Did you help him? Not in the past 18 years. He and his friends say the last time you saw him was 1994, and no one from your camp has come forward to dispute this. That was at a celebration of you in Chicago, and you introduced him to your fans as "the first guy to ever cut me," and they booed.

Were you unaware of his plight? I guess it's possible, or at least it was until last January, when Sports Illustrated published my story (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1193740/index.htm?eref=sisf) about him. Someone on your staff must have read it. I hoped you would reach out to him then. A visit or a gift or something. But no. It's been seven months, and Pop and his friends say there's been no sign of you.

A terrible thing happened after the article came out. A man who had been staying in Pop's tumbledown old house was charged with killing a young woman (http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20120113/ARTICLES/120119854/1177?Title=Police-charge-man-in-murder-after-standoff) and burying her in the yard. Pop was arrested too, because he was drunk and difficult when the police showed up, but he had nothing to do with the killing. Let me repeat that: He had nothing to with the killing. I confirmed this with the District Attorney's office. The bad guy was a serial rapist, one of many shady characters hanging around that house, and Pop was incapable of keeping him out. This is something that happens when you're mentally ill. People take advantage.

Here's another thing that happens when you're mentally ill. You have trouble organizing your life. You miss a court date or two, and the judge issues a bench warrant, and pretty soon the cops come and throw you in jail. This is exactly what happened to Pop. He was living with a criminal because he is mentally ill. He was drinking because he is mentally ill. Nothing against the good people of the New Hanover County justice system, but this much is true: Clifton "Pop" Herring went to jail because he is mentally ill. Recently I called his landlord and heard he'd been back in jail since July 14. No one would bail him out. So I got in the car.

"This is my 24th day," he said, on the telephone, through the glass. He did not seem angry. In fact he was jovial, as usual, and he asked me how my little girl was doing. I told him fine, and he said good, and then he asked a favor. He said the charges had been cleared up that afternoon in court, and he wasn't sure why they were keeping him here, and he wondered if there was anything I could do to get him out. They were treating him just fine, but he didn't want to spend one more night in a cage.

"I got my stuff ready to go," he said.

I said I would go see about it. Sure enough, the charges had been resolved. All except one, a failure to appear. The bond was $100. I had no idea what I was doing. Never bailed anyone out before. Checked my wallet and saw forty bucks.

There's an ATM over in the corner, a deputy sheriff said.

So I went over and took out another hundred. My own money -- not from a Sports Illustrated expense account. It felt wonderful. Like you, Mike, I had profited from Pop's story, and I figured this was the least I could do to pay him back. I slid five twenties under the glass at the magistrate window and the guy gave me a receipt and told me to bring it to the deputy at another window.

"Go in the lobby and wait for him," the deputy said. "Be about 20 minutes."
Pop came out in his secondhand clothes, old jeans and an old gray T-shirt, and he said something grateful about the jail officials having laundered them. He was hungry, and so was I. We drove downtown to The George on the Riverwalk. Pop got a seafood platter with fried shrimp, fried flounder and fried oysters. It looked delicious, better than my shrimp and grits, and he let me try some. Then I took him home.

Mike, I know you can't fix Pop. But you can help him. He helped make you, and now you are a very rich man. Here's what you could do for Pop. You could buy that tumbledown house from Pop's landlord. You could tear it down and build a new one. Nothing fancy. Just a nice little one-story structure that won't blow over next time a hurricane comes through. You could hire a caretaker for this house, preferably two or three. These caretakers would keep the place clean, because Pop can't, and they would keep the shady characters outside, because Pop can't, and they would bail Pop out of jail next time he's caught with an open container, and they would make sure he shows up for court. His niece and his landlord do a lot for Pop, but they both have their own busy lives, and from time to time he falls through the cracks. You could pay people to always catch him. You could even hire his landlord and his niece, so they wouldn't have to work other jobs, and I'm sure they would treat him right.

Fine. I know I'm dreaming here. Asking too much. Well, there are smaller things you could do. Cheaper things. You could hire an exterminator, so Pop could turn on the stove or take a dish from the sink without seeing a swarm of small dark bugs. You could buy him a dishwasher. You could buy him a bed-frame so he wouldn't have to sleep on a mattress on the floor. Pop is a sentimental man, keen on mementos, and he keeps his New Hanover High Most Valuable Player 1969-70 basketball trophy on the mantle in his bedroom. The thing is so old and corroded that it's about to fall apart. You could pay a few bucks to have it restored.

I saw Pop the next morning, getting a shave and a haircut at Washington's Barber Shop. He was talking about getting some new clothes so he could get a girlfriend or two. You could buy him new clothes. I looked down at his feet, at his off-brand white sneakers, stained with water and mud, laces so old they were turning to fuzz. Mike, this would be the easiest of all. No money to spend. Just a phone call to your friends at Nike. You could tell them your old coach needs a new pair of shoes.

Sincerely,
Thomas Lake

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 11:14 AM
kobe > jordan because of this, definitely

fevertrees
08-16-2012, 11:15 AM
MJ got better things like create a dynasty in Charlotte!

benefactor
08-16-2012, 11:17 AM
Nothing to see here. Jordan has never given a fuck about anything except Jordan...and it will be that way until they bury him.

The Gemini Method
08-16-2012, 11:22 AM
Truly a sad story and indicative of the plight of those that suffer from mental instabilities. While it is Jordan's prerogative to help the man, the letter is poignant to the point if I were Jordan I would help. Then again, Jordan has never been one to balance humility with the other superlatives used to describe him.

baseline bum
08-16-2012, 11:28 AM
This article is almost as butthurt as the one a few years ago when some SI writer put out that emo piece about finally getting a date with a woman he wanted since high school and then having Jordan steal her from a couple of tables over when they went out to dinner at some fancy place in Chicago.

pass1st
08-16-2012, 11:35 AM
Jordan should bankroll the guy's twilight years as a thank you. I mean, Jordan was illiterate and likely had no career hopes outside of basketball. This guy might have given Jordan the guidance he needed to make his breakthrough in the sport.

Of course, Jordan lives for himself and this article is all for naught.

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 11:42 AM
Wow, not a :cry classy :cry move by MJ, tbh.... LeClass would have helped him out....

ElNono
08-16-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm sure MJ would be happy to offer him a job at his Chinese factory sewing up shoes for $0.12 an hour... let's just hope this guy isn't looking for a handout, tbh

Juggity
08-16-2012, 11:58 AM
It's not really Jordan's obligation to help this guy out, but it does give an insight into the awful person that Jordan actually is. The fact that he takes every chance he gets to call out this coach in public and actively avoid him because of a 30 year old grudge is par for the course. Jordan has always been the consummate asshole, and never forgets a perceived slight.

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 12:00 PM
So this guy didn't really cut Mike?

ambchang
08-16-2012, 12:11 PM
Jordan is a jerk, what's new?

The Gemini Method
08-16-2012, 12:14 PM
So this guy didn't really cut Mike?

Yeah, the prevailing truth is that he wasn't cut by the coach and that was a marketing tool to sell the Jordan name and brand...

Trill Clinton
08-16-2012, 12:23 PM
this story doesn't move me. jordan can't help everybody and pop isn't entitled to any of jordans hard earned money.

Pelicans78
08-16-2012, 12:34 PM
This story didn't bother me too except for when Jordan feels he has to call out the guy for whatever reason.

lefty
08-16-2012, 12:35 PM
MJ never forgets



He didnt make the team, so he must kill the coach now



Typical MJ

DMC
08-16-2012, 01:09 PM
Pop might have Sanduskied his ass in the showers.

DPG21920
08-16-2012, 01:34 PM
this story doesn't move me. jordan can't help everybody and pop isn't entitled to any of jordans hard earned money.

Pop isn't asking him for money. No one is entitled to anything accept rights, but the fact the guy won't even call is crazy - that's free. Also, the fact you have to ask a guy like Jordan to help is the issue. For the same reason you donate to charity, sometimes it's about doing the right thing.

The Gemini Method
08-16-2012, 01:42 PM
Yeah, mentioned here a number of times--but you have the audacity to call the poor guy out and drum up some motivation of a perceived slight that happened 30 some years ago...and this is written on his behalf by another person, so Clifton isn't panhandling. Meh, it is still a personal choice and I think most of us (in Jordan's position) would want to at least help a little.

resistanze
08-16-2012, 01:51 PM
Jordan would rather lose $10 million at a casino game he doesn't know how to play, tbh

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 02:23 PM
Nothing to see here. Jordan has never given a fuck about anything except Jordan...and it will be that way until they bury him.

Unfortunately, this. What kills me is that the world wide leader worships this dude. I've seen a few foul stories like this about him (and Shaq). Yet the media loves them anyway.

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 02:27 PM
Pop isn't asking him for money. No one is entitled to anything accept rights, but the fact the guy won't even call is crazy - that's free. Also, the fact you have to ask a guy like Jordan to help is the issue. For the same reason you donate to charity, sometimes it's about doing the right thing.

DPG with the goods. :tu

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 02:28 PM
Unfortunately, this. What kills me is that the world wide leader worships this dude. I've seen a few foul stories like this about him (and Shaq). Yet the media loves them anyway.

And don't forget the rapist snitch... the media loves him too, tbh....

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 02:29 PM
The rapist snitch food stamps grabber :rollin

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 02:31 PM
The rapist snitch food stamps grabber :rollin

:cry "At least I didn't pay the bitch to shut her up like Shaq does" :cry
:cry "Ship Bynum's ass out, Papa needs some new food stamps" :cry
:cry "But... but... I don't wanna rebuild!" :cry

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 02:33 PM
And don't forget the rapist snitch... the media loves him too, tbh....

Clipp:lolrs

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 02:36 PM
That's kinda ironic since the Clippers have been the one accustomed to lining up for food stamps while the Lakers always had the banquet, with the expensive steak and wine

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 02:38 PM
That's kinda ironic since the Clippers have been the one accustomed to lining up for food stamps while the Lakers always had the banquet, with the expensive steak and wine

Guess nobody told Food Stamps Bryant that.... he cries to Mitch Kupcake for welfare checks every year, and was thisclose to signing with the Clippers in '04, tbh.... :lol

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 02:39 PM
That's why get in line for your food stamps, bitch

:lol Clippers tickets
:lol food stamps

Darth_Pelican
08-16-2012, 02:47 PM
I thought Jordan was ok in Space Jam. The script was kind of weak, but Jordan held his own, especially considering it was his first lead role.

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 02:54 PM
Guess nobody told Food Stamps Bryant that.... he cries to Mitch Kupcake for welfare checks every year, and was thisclose to signing with the Clippers in '04, tbh.... :lol

Kobe as a Clipp:lolr?

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 02:59 PM
Kobe as a Clipp:lolr?

We could have had Food Stamps AND Dwight....

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/Imagine-Kobe-Howard-as-Clipper-Teammates.html?fullSite=y

The Gemini Method
08-16-2012, 03:00 PM
lol Clipper fan talking about welfare/food stamps when they have been the benefit of the NBA Lottery and blowing 1st pick(s) overall on the likes of Olowakandi (Bologna) instead of the likes of Nowitzki/Pierce (Ribeye).

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 03:02 PM
We could have had Food Stamps AND Dwight....

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/Imagine-Kobe-Howard-as-Clipper-Teammates.html?fullSite=y

Kobe would never go across the hall. It was a power move to get rid of Shaq. You're delusional if you think he'd ever play for the Clipp:lolrs. :downspin:

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 03:02 PM
lol Clipper fan talking about welfare/food stamps when they have been the benefit of the NBA Lottery and blowing 1st pick(s) overall on the likes of Olowakandi (Bologna) instead of the likes of Nowitzki/Pierce (Ribeye).

They need to move back to San Diego tbh.

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 03:04 PM
Kobe would never go across the hall. It was a power move to get rid of Shaq.

Proving how bitchmade of a teammate Food Stamps truly is, tbh...

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 03:05 PM
They need to move back to San Diego tbh.

That would be a disaster in today's "LA, Miami, and NY are all that matter" league, tbh.... not to mention, there's no financial incentive to leave LA, tbh....

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 03:06 PM
Proving how bitchmade of a teammate Food Stamps truly is, tbh...
You're just bitter. Always has been for the Clipper fan base, consisting of you and Clipper Darrell.

:lol Clipper Darrell
:lol shun away by the Clips

What kind of franchise calls out their #1 fan for making money off of them? :lmao

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 03:07 PM
:lol Clipper Darrell
:lol shun away by the Clips

:lol Ignorant of the situation

:cry "It's not fair that the franchise that gives me free season tickets for life and rides on the team plane won't let me also sell bootleg merchandise and endanger their trademarks!" :cry

Notice that his ass never left his seat at Staples regardless, since he'll never give up the attention he gets from being there, tbh....

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 03:08 PM
What kind of franchise calls out their #1 fan for making money off of them? :lmao

A franchise that understands how copyright laws work and realizes that they risk losing their trademarks if they don't protect them from illicit use, tbh....

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 03:10 PM
The Clippers got semi-decent and they thought it gave them entitlement over everything. :lol

Go fall in line for your food stamps while the Lakers feast at the banquet table.

The Gemini Method
08-16-2012, 03:12 PM
Oh that's right! They got mad at one of their 5 fans for using the term 'Clipper' :lol

:lol Donald "Slumlord Billionaire" Sterling

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 03:18 PM
That would be a disaster in today's "LA, Miami, and NY are all that matter" league, tbh.... not to mention, there's no financial incentive to leave LA, tbh....

Of course not. Sterling been leaching off Dr. Buss and the Lakers' success for YEARS. Why stop now? :lol

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 03:20 PM
Oh that's right! They got mad at one of their 5 fans for using the term 'Clipper' :lol

:lol Donald "Slumlord Billionaire" Sterling

The Lakers kicked their version of Clipper Darrell, Dancing Barry, to the curb decades ago because he decided they weren't paying him enough, tbh... I guess that's a "slumlord billionaire" move by Jerry Buss?

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/01/sports/la-sp-0302-plaschke-20120302

Venti Quattro
08-16-2012, 03:23 PM
:lol Dancing Barry

I loved det guy, God bless him.

whitemamba
08-16-2012, 03:29 PM
Clipp:lolrs

:lol

The Gemini Method
08-16-2012, 03:34 PM
The Lakers kicked their version of Clipper Darrell, Dancing Barry, to the curb decades ago because he decided they weren't paying him enough, tbh... I guess that's a "slumlord billionaire" move by Jerry Buss?



http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/01/sports/la-sp-0302-plaschke-20120302


Dancing Barry! Well, when you only have a handful of fans you shouldn't rid yourselves of the loyalest of them all. The Lakers can afford to jettison some fans here and there--we're an actual Nation not a pretend one.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/11/donald-sterling-to-pay-2725-million-to-settle-housing-discrimination-lawsuit.html

Clipper Nation
08-16-2012, 03:39 PM
:lol "A handful of fans" but better home attendance than the Lakers last year

ambchang
08-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Kobe would never go across the hall. It was a power move to get rid of Shaq. You're delusional if you think he'd ever play for the Clipp:lolrs. :downspin:

So you are saying Kobe killed a golden opportunity to be part of a dynasty that would rival the 60s Celtics and 90s Bulls to serve his own ego, only to have management save his butt by:
1) Drafting Bynum AND KEEPING HIM
2) Trading peanut wrappings for Pau Gasol
3) Getting Dwight to save his marriage

Trill Clinton
08-16-2012, 03:43 PM
Pop isn't asking him for money. No one is entitled to anything accept rights, but the fact the guy won't even call is crazy - that's free. Also, the fact you have to ask a guy like Jordan to help is the issue. For the same reason you donate to charity, sometimes it's about doing the right thing.

what are they going to talk about? Pop has severe mental issues. there is nothing for them to talk about.

we don't know the history between MJ and this dude. for some reason his own family won't even deal with him. it should be their responsibility to help, not MJ's.

this old man needs some psychological help at this juncture more than anything and the state has plenty of resources if he so chooses to accept them.

whitemamba
08-16-2012, 03:46 PM
:lol "A handful of fans" but better home attendance than the Lakers last year

should move back to san diego and make ur home court the zoo. everyone likes to look to at monkeys, and u guys have the ultimate monkey baller, thats why ur attendance was higher..

LAL -16
San Diego Zoo- 0

Koolaid_Man
08-16-2012, 04:02 PM
Nothing to see here. Jordan has never given a fuck about anything except Jordan...and it will be that way until they bury him.

I hope none of you plan to vote for Twit Romney and up in here talking about MJ should give a handout. Sure it would have been nice but he's not obligated. He wasn't obligated when he signed his first contract nor is he now. His coach got paid by the school district...you know as a coach that you can't expect former students to come back and break you off some change. I will say this I tried to fuck my high school Science teacher Ms. Henry she was close to giving me some of that white milf pussy but got scared at the last minute. She's the kind of teacher I would break some change off to.

Back to MJ. He won't give many of his siblings money what makes you think he will give this dude. MJ's cut throat is what we admire in him so don't expect him to just turn it off. Besides how do we know this guy isn't a crack head he was obviously living in a crack house...and why would his wife and daughter leave him if it was just a medical issue....dude probably was living in a crack house smoking det Kiesha :lol....the only stories I know of where people getting killed and buried in the back yard and you don't know about it...is a crack house...

The whole story seems full of lies...keep your money MJ don't give it to uncle pookie...:lol

LkrFan
08-16-2012, 04:10 PM
So you are saying Kobe killed a golden opportunity to be part of a dynasty that would rival the 60s Celtics and 90s Bulls to serve his own ego, only to have management save his butt by:
1) Drafting Bynum AND KEEPING HIM
2) Trading peanut wrappings for Pau Gasol
3) Getting Dwight to save his marriage

No. Shaq did that by

1) Discovering Krispy Kreme
2) Cursing at Dr. Buss during a meaningless preseason game
3) Showing signs of slowing down due to injuries because he was fat
4) Healing a minor injury "on company time"
5) Dividing the Laker locker room thru his jealousy of Kobe
6) Etc Etc

Shaq fucked up the dynasty. If he worked as hard as Kobe he would have been GOAT. Dr. Buss made the right choice. Post trade:

Kobe: 2
Shaq: 1

Trainwreck2100
08-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Nothing to see here. Jordan has never given a fuck about anything except Jordan...and it will be that way until they bury him.

jordan gives a fuck about other things, like smoking cigars and banging coeds.

Trainwreck2100
08-16-2012, 04:12 PM
No. Shaq did that by

1) Discovering Krispy Kreme
2) Cursing at Dr. Buss during a meaningless preseason game
3) Showing signs of slowing down due to injuries because he was fat
4) Healing a minor injury "on company time"
5) Dividing the Laker locker room thru his jealousy of Kobe
6) Etc Etc

Shaq fucked up the dynasty. If he worked as hard as Kobe he would have been GOAT. Dr. Buss made the right choice. Post trade:

Kobe: 2
Shaq: 1

dat nash shop kills you sig

whitemamba
08-16-2012, 04:18 PM
http://www.tapesvideosandphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/yvette-4.jpg

Trainwreck2100
08-16-2012, 04:24 PM
mans living the dream

vato loco
08-16-2012, 04:28 PM
should move back to san diego and make ur home court the zoo. everyone likes to look to at monkeys, and u guys have the ultimate monkey baller, thats why ur attendance was higher..

LAL -16
San Diego Zoo- 0

:lmao

DMC
08-16-2012, 06:27 PM
If MJ starts doling out money to anyone like that, that person and their family and extended family and posse and just about everyone they know will petition for support from him as well.

Pop should meet him in Vegas, take the money he needs at the card table.

DMC
08-16-2012, 06:28 PM
I thought Jordan was ok in Space Jam. The script was kind of weak, but Jordan held his own, especially considering it was his first lead role.
:lmao

A wax figure of Jordan would have been better. Dude obviously didn't rehearse.

whitemamba
08-16-2012, 06:30 PM
:lmao

A wax figure of Jordan would have been better. Dude obviously didn't rehearse.

i loved that movie tbh

Trainwreck2100
08-16-2012, 06:48 PM
God tier theme song

J9FImc2LOr8

Trainwreck2100
08-16-2012, 06:52 PM
:cry just work that body work that body make sure you don't hurt nobody :cry

Amuseddaysleeper
08-16-2012, 06:57 PM
You could make a Citizen Kane-esque film about Jordan.

jag
08-16-2012, 08:06 PM
this story doesn't move me. jordan can't help everybody and pop isn't entitled to any of jordans hard earned money.

This

lefty
08-17-2012, 03:23 PM
what are they going to talk about? Pop has severe mental issues. there is nothing for them to talk about.

we don't know the history between MJ and this dude. for some reason his own family won't even deal with him. it should be their responsibility to help, not MJ's.

this old man needs some psychological help at this juncture more than anything and the state has plenty of resources if he so chooses to accept them.
The goods :tu