Easily the worst era in music

[Glenn Holland]

has to be the late 60's & early 70's.

nothing is as horrible as those long, crappy rock songs from that era.

tbh, that time frame is the worst in musical history.

[Proxy]

Try again

[SourCandy]

When it comes to music the worst is usually the most current.

[rascal]

You are crazy. The music today is the worst.

[Glenn Holland]

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6WJT_oMAIIM

this stuff is easily more tolerable and enjoyable than Creedence Clearwater Revival, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and The Who.

embrace the new era and please stop living in the past.

[SA210]

The music today is the worst.

By far

[DMC]

7YLy4j8EZIk


6WJT_oMAIIM

this stuff is easily more tolerable and enjoyable than Creedence Clearwater Revival, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and The Who.

embrace the new era and please stop living in the past.
Weren't you living in the past when you started this shitty troll attempt?

[Glenn Holland]

Not a troll attempt.

The music from the late 60's and 70's...the "rock" music is complete shit.

unbearable. just fucking strait up pure shit.

music has evolved and luckily we are getting to the point where the majority despises that type of shit music and hip hop and rap are mainstream and common and acceptable in all environments.

[Glenn Holland]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Creedence_Clearwater_Revival_1968.jpg/275px-Creedence_Clearwater_Revival_1968.jpgback then
vs.
http://hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1144559-ace-hood-bet-awards-2011-617-409.jpgnow


= no contest

todays music is far superior.

[Step 2 Texas]

Agreed. :toast

[CubanSucks]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/322/Yall_niggas_postin_in_a_troll_thread.png

[Spurminator]

D-

[TampaDude]

Music sucks now, for the most part.

Give me the 1980s, please.

[O.J. Simpson]

lol, OP is a butthurt old faggot.

[Bill_Brasky]

FUN. is a popular group right now. I'm pretty sure that says it all.

[DMC]

Not a troll attempt.

The music from the late 60's and 70's...the "rock" music is complete shit.

unbearable. just fucking strait up pure shit.

music has evolved and luckily we are getting to the point where the majority despises that type of shit music and hip hop and rap are mainstream and common and acceptable in all environments.

:wakeup you making it even more pathetic with the "not a troll" shtick.

[AussieFanKurt]

FUN. is a popular group right now. I'm pretty sure that says it all.

They are hardly the worst... think Minaj, Kesha etc etc

[Proxy]

To the old people who think today's music sucks:

Today's music only sucks if you don't listen to anything but the radio. Don't try and make an opinion on something that you haven't even ventured out to explore or understand.

Andrew Bird, Bonobo, Grizzly Bear, The Roots, Mike Patton... the variety is at an all time high.

tl;dr 60/70's didn't suck. Today's music doesn't suck.

[Proxy]

They are hardly the worst... think Minaj, Kesha etc etc

There was shit like that in every era. People tend to compare it to what they hear on the oldies station which only plays the cream of the crop from past eras.

[HarlemWelch37]

late 90's is by far the worst. We had nu-metal, boy bands, AND buttrock all at the same time.

[Proxy]

late 90's is by far the worst. We had nu-metal, boy bands, AND buttrock all at the same time.

Radiohead, Bjork, Sonic Youth, Elliott Smith, A Tribe Called Quest

[Bender]

I always considered the 80s the worst.... with all the new wave stuff. boy george, flock of seagulls, et al

not to mention the so-called metal groups... pretty boy hair metal

(and I know its a troll thread)

[HeatChamps]

lol Fucking hippies. The best music is now. FUCK YOU Beatles bullshit.

[redzero]

I'm guessing this is ALWAYSbetonBLACK, or whatever his name is, with another terribly unsubtle troll job.

[HeatChamps]

Glenn Holland is a great poster. Hip Hop is the shit. Late 60's is shit.

[Proxy]

Glenn Holland is a great poster. Hip Hop is the shit. Late 60's is shit.

Lay down some of your favorite hip hop artists

[HeatChamps]

I hate hip hop. I'm just a fag Heat troll with the stereotype.

[Oh, Gee!!]

mid to late 90's is by the far the worst

[Wild Cobra]

That's a no brainer.

The disco era.

I have this album:

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The album is of local Portland bands from the 1980 KGON album. KGON now plays classic rock from the 60'd to 80's. Luckiliy this is the only cut that made it from the group No Exit. Still, since I hate disco... I find the song a bit humorous.

[Avante]

I'd love to see anyone beat this...

Bob Dylan
CCR
Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Doors
The Animals
Janis Joplin with Big Brother and ther Holding Company
Them with Van Morrison
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
The Beatles
Dr.John
Joe Cocker
CSN&Y
ZZ Top
Steve Miller Band
Led Zeppelin
The Jefferson Airplance with Grace Slick
The Grateful Dead
Traffic
Savoy Brown
John Mayall

..it can't be done.

[Avante]

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[TE]

I'd love to see anyone beat this...

Bob Dylan
CCR
Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Doors
The Animals
Janis Joplin with Big Brother and ther Holding Company
Them with Van Morrison
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
The Beatles
Dr.John
Joe Cocker
CSN&Y
ZZ Top
Steve Miller Band
Led Zeppelin
The Jefferson Airplance with Grace Slick
The Grateful Dead
Traffic
Savoy Brown
John Mayall

..it can't be done.

:tu

[Wild Cobra]

I'd love to see anyone beat this...

Bob Dylan
CCR
Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Doors
The Animals
Janis Joplin with Big Brother and ther Holding Company
Them with Van Morrison
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
The Beatles
Dr.John
Joe Cocker
CSN&Y
ZZ Top
Steve Miller Band
Led Zeppelin
The Jefferson Airplance with Grace Slick
The Grateful Dead
Traffic
Savoy Brown
John Mayall

..it can't be done.
For good music?

You forgot a few like Bread, Janis Joplin, Styx, Eagles, the Who...

Ooops...

I see you got Janis...

Still playing...

Aerosmith...

[Avante]

For good music?

You forgot a few like Bread, Janis Joplin, Styx, Eagles, the Who...

Ooops...

I see you got Janis...

Still playing...

Aerosmith...

You take all those we mentioned above and mix their best stuff, you cannot improve upon it using any other era.

[Wild Cobra]

You take all those we mentioned above and mix their best stuff, you cannot improve upon it using any other era.
I agree.

[Avante]

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[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

80's pop owns all. Just synthesizers, cocaine, and endless catchy one-hit wonders.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Btw, Bob Dylan is impossible to listen to for more than 2 songs--just brutal. I've grown to hate Robert Plant's voice too--probably b/c of overplay on the radio.

[Proxy]

I'd love to see anyone beat this...

Bob Dylan
CCR
Jimi Hendrix
The Rolling Stones
The Doors
The Animals
Janis Joplin with Big Brother and ther Holding Company
Them with Van Morrison
Leon Russell
Johnny Winter
The Beatles
Dr.John
Joe Cocker
CSN&Y
ZZ Top
Steve Miller Band
Led Zeppelin
The Jefferson Airplance with Grace Slick
The Grateful Dead
Traffic
Savoy Brown
John Mayall

..it can't be done.

:lol left out Pink Floyd
:lol left out Marvin Gaye
:lol left out Eric Clapton
:lol left out Cat Stevens
:lol left out Stevie Wonder
:lol left out Elton John
:lol left out Santana
:lol left out Rush
:lol left out Frank Zappa
:lol left out The Zombies
:lol left out John Denver
:lol left out Aerosmith
:lol left out BB King
:lol left out Earth Wind and Fire
:lol left out James Taylor
:lol left out Aretha Franklin
:lol left out The Supremes
:lol left out Johnny Cash
:lol left out Lynyrd Skynyrd
:lol left out Simon & Garfunkel
:lol left out The Doobie Bros
:lol left out Fleetwood Mac
:lol left out Chicago
:lol left out Genesis
:lol left out Beach Boys

... I just arguably beat your list with the same 60/70s era musicians that you forgot... luckily you remembered one of the two of the beatles and zeppelin

and now I'll beat your list with the 90s/modern era musicians


Grizzly Bear
Bjork
Bonobo
Bon Iver
Andrew Bird
Mike Patton
Talib Kweli
The Shins
Gorillaz
Muse
Boards of Canada
Cat Power
Radiohead
Pearl Jam
Thievery Corporation
Neutral Milk Hotel
PJ Harvey
Peeping Tom
Fleet Foxes
Broken Social Scene
Bibio
The Roots
Adele
Blonde Redhead
Handsome Boy Modeling School
Lovage
Rage Against the Machine
Jay-Z
Bibio
Incubus
Wu-Tang
Dillinger Escape Plan
Arcade Fire
Usher
Portishead
Outkast
Broadcast
Flying Lotus
Tool
Animal Collective
Tycho
Nirvana
Atmosphere
Pavement
Coldplay
Prefuse 73
Belle and Sebastian
Fugazi
Rilo Kiley
Kings of Convenience
Iron and Wine
Mos Def
Postal Service
Tupac
Notorious B.I.G.
Elliott Smith
Feist
St Vincent
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rodrigo y Gabriella
MGMT
RATATAT
Pixies
A Tribe Called Quest
Aesop Rock
Vampire Weekend
Bright Eyes
Aphex Twin
Queens of the Stoneage
Sigur Ros
John Frusciante
The Black Keys
Justice
Deltron 3030
Sonic Youth

[redzero]

^ Where's Modest Mouse and Built to Spill? Fucking plebe.

And Faith No More. You mentioned Lovage and Mike Patton, but leave out Faith No More?

And Deerhunter, Wilco, Fugazi, Porcupine Tree, Kyuss, Alice In Chains, Ween, and The National?

[PublicOption]

Mid 70's would come in second. 1995-present would come in first.


Actually late 60's-early 70's wasn't too bad.

[Proxy]

^ where's modest mouse and built to spill? Fucking plebe.

fml

[redzero]

1997 had so many great albums.

[Proxy]

^ Where's Modest Mouse and Built to Spill? Fucking plebe.

And Faith No More. You mentioned Lovage and Mike Patton, but leave out Faith No More?

And Deerhunter, Wilco, Fugazi, Porcupine Tree, Kyuss, Alice In Chains, Ween, and The National?

Faith No More started in the 80s so I left that out purposefully and just put down Patton to cover his participation in all of his projects during the frame I gave myself... I mentioned Lovage and Handsome Boy Modeling School as more of an indicator to Dan the Automator's genius... why don't you point out how I left Tomahawk and Peeping Tom out as well? I could've mentioned Buckethead and Primus too. Amon Tobin I left out for some reason.

I did mention Fugazi. Deerhunter I haven't given an honest listen to yet but from what I do know, I should've listed them and Wilco. Alice in Chains is an embarrassing one to leave out... Ween too. Porcupine Tree and The National... perhaps... haven't heard either in awhile. Kyuss and all that fu manchu stoner rock I never explored much either. Dessert Sessions had some good shit though.

The list was getting long. Keep giving me more bands... the more music I have to explore, the better. 80s and 90s aren't my strong points.

[Avante]

:lol left out Pink Floyd
:lol left out Marvin Gaye
:lol left out Eric Clapton
:lol left out Cat Stevens
:lol left out Stevie Wonder
:lol left out Elton John
:lol left out Santana
:lol left out Rush
:lol left out Frank Zappa
:lol left out The Zombies
:lol left out John Denver
:lol left out Aerosmith
:lol left out BB King
:lol left out Earth Wind and Fire
:lol left out James Taylor
:lol left out Aretha Franklin
:lol left out The Supremes
:lol left out Johnny Cash
:lol left out Lynyrd Skynyrd
:lol left out Simon & Garfunkel
:lol left out The Doobie Bros
:lol left out Fleetwood Mac
:lol left out Chicago
:lol left out Genesis
:lol left out Beach Boys

... I just arguably beat your list with the same 60/70s era musicians that you forgot... luckily you remembered one of the two of the beatles and zeppelin

and now I'll beat your list with the 90s/modern era musicians


Grizzly Bear
Bjork
Bonobo
Bon Iver
Andrew Bird
Mike Patton
Talib Kweli
The Shins
Gorillaz
Muse
Boards of Canada
Cat Power
Radiohead
Pearl Jam
Thievery Corporation
Neutral Milk Hotel
PJ Harvey
Peeping Tom
Fleet Foxes
Broken Social Scene
Bibio
The Roots
Adele
Blonde Redhead
Handsome Boy Modeling School
Lovage
Rage Against the Machine
Jay-Z
Bibio
Incubus
Wu-Tang
Dillinger Escape Plan
Arcade Fire
Usher
Portishead
Outkast
Broadcast
Flying Lotus
Tool
Animal Collective
Tycho
Nirvana
Atmosphere
Pavement
Coldplay
Prefuse 73
Belle and Sebastian
Fugazi
Rilo Kiley
Kings of Convenience
Iron and Wine
Mos Def
Postal Service
Tupac
Notorious B.I.G.
Elliott Smith
Feist
St Vincent
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rodrigo y Gabriella
MGMT
RATATAT
Pixies
A Tribe Called Quest
Aesop Rock
Vampire Weekend
Bright Eyes
Aphex Twin
Queens of the Stoneage
Sigur Ros
John Frusciante
The Black Keys
Justice
Deltron 3030
Sonic Youth


Hopefully you didn't I thought my list said it all. Now when we talk quality it's not even close. You honestly think that 90's stuff compares?

Oh yeah wheres...

Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Ten Years After
Jeff Beck
Rod Stewart
Black Sabbath
Uriah Heep
Robin Trower
Climax Blues Band
John Lee Hooker
The Yardbirds
Iron Butterfly
Blind Faith
Buffalo Springfield
Otis Redding
Merle Haggard
Billy Idol
David Bowie
Deep Purple
Bob Seegar
Procol Harum
Mountain
King Crimson
Huey Lewis and the News
Elecric Flag
Grand Funk Rairoad
Cream
Joan Baez
Vanilla Fudge
The Box Tops
The Allman Brothers
Redbone
Steppenwolf
Temptations

[ColinB]

Man, Proxy's list is god awful.

Next time just link us to Pitchfork.

[TimDunkem]

Man, Proxy's list is god awful.

Next time just link us to Pitchfork.
Yeah - I'm not someone who generally places music from the 60's and 70's on a pedestal above everything else, but only a handful of the groups/artists he mentioned belong in the conversation with half of the groups/artists on Avante's list. The rest is just garbage.

How can one possibly say 'I'll beat your list with...' and start off with Grizzly Bear and Bjork? :lol

[redzero]

Björk is great and Grizzly Bear is very good.

:lol Avante listing bands he hasn't actually listened to like King Crimson.

[Avante]

Björk is great and Grizzly Bear is very good.

:lol Avante listing bands he hasn't actually listened to like King Crimson.

Go ahead name all those bands I listed I haven't listened to. I thought you'd have learned your lesson, guess not.

[dirk4mvp]

Man, Proxy's list is god awful.

Next time just link us to Pitchfork.

rofl

[Spurminator]

Steve Miller Band was the Nickleback of its time. IMO.

[Avante]

How do you beat...

House of the Rising Sun...The Animals
Hoochie Coochie Man...Muddy Waters
Riders On The Storm...The Doors
Bridge of Sighs...Robin Trower
Big Boss Man...Jimmy Reed
Voodoo Chile...Jimi Hendrix
Ball n' Chain...Janis Joplin
Help From My Friends...Joe Cocker
Right Place, Wrong Time...Dr.John
I'm in the Mood...John Lee Hooker
Truckin'...The Grateful Dead
Sympathy for the Devil...The Stones
Gloria..Them
The Pusher..Steppenwolf
Sunshine of Your Love...Cream
Nights in White Satin...Moody Blues
The Thrill is Gone...BB King
Levee Breaks...Led Zeppelin
A Day in the Life...The Beatles
Dear Mr.Fantasy..Traffic
Cold Blooded Woman...Savoy Brown
Crosscut Saw..Albert King
Le Grange..ZZTop
Mercury Blues..Steve Miller Band
Out in the Country...Canned Heat
Out in the Woods...Leon Russell
Little Red Rooster...Howlin' Wolf
Too Much Saconal...Johnny Winter
Desolation Row...Bob Dylan
Wooden Ships...CSN&Y
Susie Q...CCR
White Rabbit..The Jefferson Airplane
Inagaddadavida..Iron Buterfly
Evil Woman..John Mayall
Alices Restaurant...Arlo Guthrie
Ziggy Stardust...David Bowie
Can't Find My Way Home...Blind Faith
Lonesome Whistle..Freddie King
For What's It's Worth..Buffalo Springfield
Witchy Woman...The Eagles
Season of the Witch...Donovan
Heart Full of Soul...The Yardbirds
Border Lord...Kris Kristofferson

[Avante]

Back in the late 20's there was a blues cat out of Mississippi named Tommy Johnson (shown in O Brother Where Art Thou) he was the daddy of that sold my soul to the Devil at them crossroads story. One of his most famous songs was.."Canned Heat". That's where this band got that name. They were big time old blues fans.



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[redzero]

Go ahead name all those bands I listed I haven't listened to. I thought you'd have learned your lesson, guess not.


I probably own CDs/records/tapes of about three fourths of those I mentioned. I don't however own a King Crimson anything. A buddy of mine is into them, there is one tune I like I'm thinking Devils and Wizards??? Very Cool!

You were saying?

:lol can't even name a King Crimson song

[Avante]

You were saying?

:lol can't even name a King Crimson song

Do you think at all before posting? Do you honestly believe even I own CD's by everyone I've ever heard? Even on CD's I own some songs I don't know the name of. I've heard King Crimson and every one I mentioned.

I'd think you'd be thankful I didn't make a bigger deal out of how stupid you looked once I showed you how wrong you were about my music. I don't lie about music little one. Why would I?

Do I own more than a dozen books on music? Everything from jazz, rock, blues to country? Well?

[Wild Cobra]

Somebody picked John Denver...

Yuk...

[tlongII]

Call Me Maybe?

Seriously?

[redzero]

Do you think at all before posting? Do you honestly believe even I own CD's by everyone I've ever heard? Even on CD's I own some songs I don't know the name of. I've heard King Crimson and every one I mentioned.

I'd think you'd be thankful I didn't make a bigger deal out of how stupid you looked once I showed you how wrong you were about my music. I don't lie about music little one. Why would I?

Do I own more than a dozen books on music? Everything from jazz, rock, blues to country? Well?

I didn't ask you if you heard anything by King Crimson. My point is, why would you list King Crimson as a notable act from the 60's if you don't regularly listen to them? You can't even name a song by them, so what's the point of bringing up groups that you aren't even a fan of?

[IronMexican]

Radiohead, Bjork, Sonic Youth, Elliott Smith, A Tribe Called Quest

And Pinkerton, tbh. Late 90's/early 00's was prob my favorite.

[Avante]

I didn't ask you if you heard anything by King Crimson. My point is, why would you list King Crimson as a notable act from the 60's if you don't regularly listen to them? You can't even name a song by them, so what's the point of bringing up groups that you aren't even a fan of?

You really don't think before posting do you?

[redzero]

:lol nice non-response, dumbass. Tell me why you disagree with my point.

For an adult, you sure suck and critical thinking and reasoning. You also suck and getting your point across.

[Avante]

:lol nice non-response, dumbass. Tell me why you disagree with my point.

For an adult, you sure suck and critical thinking and reasoning. You also suck and getting your point across.

I'll go real real slow (you can do this moron)

I was listing some great groups of that period. Not CD's of mine. not favorites of mine. Yes I've heard all those bands and do have CD's by most of them but that was a moot point.

Dude, why you always looking to be a pest.

[Wild Cobra]

:lol nice non-response, dumbass. Tell me why you disagree with my point.

For an adult, you sure suck and critical thinking and reasoning. You also suck and getting your point across.


I'll go real real slow (you can do this moron)

I was listing some great groups of that period. Not CD's of mine. not favorites of mine. Yes I've heard all those bands and do have CD's by most of them but that was a moot point.

Dude, why you always looking to be a pest.
Ignore the child. By saying "for an adult" it seems obvious this is a grade schooler.

[redzero]

I'm not looking to be a pest. I am simply stating that one who can't even remember the name of any song by a band shouldn't use that band as an example of good music.

[Avante]

Ignore the child. By saying "for an adult" it seems obvious this is a grade schooler.

Not sure what it is, I just know it never does anything but ask stupid questions. It also has no common sense.

[redzero]

Ignore the child. By saying "for an adult" it seems obvious this is a grade schooler.

That went completely over your head, creepy racist. I put that in there because Avante always calls people on here immature, even though he acts immature himself.

Don't get involved when you don't know what you are talking about.

[Avante]

I'm not looking to be a pest. I am simply stating that one who can't even remember the name of any song by a band shouldn't use that band as an example of good music.

I've never heard anything by Bach. If asked about classical music I'm mentioning his name.

See how it works?

I never saw Red Grange play football, if asked about great footballers from the 20's I'm mentioning his name?

See how it works:rolleyes

I've never been to the Playboy Mansion if asked about......................

[Avante]

That went completely over your head, creepy racist. I put that in there because Avante always calls people on here immature, even though he acts immature himself.

Don't get involved when you don't know what you are talking about.

Do you see me entering threads to bitch and moan about the topic/poster....nope! Do you see me following anyone around just to bug them...nope! Do I start threads about spit or swallow, hoes, fucking, gross shit.....nope! Yes there are a lot of immature posters here.

[redzero]

It depends on the question. If somebody asks me what are some good 60's rock bands, I definitely am not going to recommend them a band I haven't listened to enough to be able to remember the names of any of their songs. That's stupid.

[Proxy]

Go ahead name all those bands I listed I haven't listened to. I thought you'd have learned your lesson, guess not.

How many of the bands that I listed have you even listened to?

[Proxy]

And Pinkerton, tbh. Late 90's/early 00's was prob my favorite.

I agree, but I usually just avoid mentioning them even if I specify their mentioning with only Blue Album and Pinkerton in mind.

[Avante]

How many of the bands that I listed have you even listened to?

Of the 60/70 gang all of them. Most on CD's. In that second gang about a dozen of them. The Black Keys!!!!

[Avante]

It depends on the question. If somebody asks me what are some good 60's rock bands, I definitely am not going to recommend them a band I haven't listened to enough to be able to remember the names of any of their songs. That's stupid.

You really are dense aren't you?

While I 've heard a lot of Bob Marley and have CD's/tapes I'm not very familiar with Peter Tosh. I can't name one of his tunes but if someone asked me about reggae I'd mention his name, yep....reputation!!!!!!

See how that works?

[redzero]

You really are this stupid, aren't you?

I'm not talking about reputation. Anybody can list bands that have good reputations. I am talking about music that YOU know and like. If that list of bands you posted is full of groups you aren't really familiar with (e.g., King Crimson), then the list is pointless.

[Proxy]

Yeah - I'm not someone who generally places music from the 60's and 70's on a pedestal above everything else, but only a handful of the groups/artists he mentioned belong in the conversation with half of the groups/artists on Avante's list. The rest is just garbage.

How can one possibly say 'I'll beat your list with...' and start off with Grizzly Bear and Bjork? :lol

you're acting like you know a lot about music yet don't understand why Bjork and Grizzly Bear would be on the list.

[Proxy]

Man, Proxy's list is god awful.

Next time just link us to Pitchfork.

Enlighten us, please.

[Avante]

You really are this stupid, aren't you?

I'm not talking about reputation. Anybody can list bands that have good reputations. I am talking about music that YOU know and like. If that list of bands you posted is full of groups you aren't really familiar with (e.g., King Crimson), then the list is pointless.

Not a fucking clue, incredible:rolleyes

I am familiar with King Crimson, I've heard them a few times. I mentioned that. All the others I'm very very familiar with. Own CD's by most of them. Dude you never ever seem to get it, it's like I'm talking to some little kid. You are so petty, so tiny.

I asked you a question somewhere up there. I have about 15 books on music, true or false?

[redzero]

Don't know and don't care about how many books you have.

You aren't familiar with King Crimson enough to remember any of their songs, so don't bring them up. Period.

[Avante]

Don't know and don't care about how many books you have.

You aren't familiar with King Crimson enough to remember any of their songs, so don't bring them up. Period.

Smart move amigo, no more..."no you don't"...coming from you. You did learn your lesson, cool~~~~

If I feel like talking about King Crimson, King Kong, Nat King Cole, King Oliver, King Hill, Hugh "The King" McElhenny, The Kingston Trio or Sky King I'll do it, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wild Cobra]

That went completely over your head, creepy racist. I put that in there because Avante always calls people on here immature, even though he acts immature himself.

Don't get involved when you don't know what you are talking about.
I'll agree that Avante is more talkative on more subjects than most, but that's noting like being a total ass like you are. You call people names out of your own ignorance. Wait... maybe it's not ignorance. maybe you're just an internet bully?

You remind me of grade school bullies.

[redzero]

Bad move by you trying to change the subject to some shitty books.

But you don't know anything about King Crimson, so what is there to talk about?

[redzero]

Bad move by you trying to change the subject to some shitty books.

But you don't know anything about King Crimson, so what is there to talk about?

[Avante]

Bad move by you trying to change the subject to some shitty books.

But you don't know anything about King Crimson, so what is there to talk about?

Just putting you in your new place of..."ain't messing with him anymore, I learned my lesson, he don't bullshit". Trust me slick if I tell you I own something I will prove it. Cool shuttiing that stupid.."no you don't"..up..hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Where did I say anything about writing a book on those bands? I just mentioned some high profile well thought of bands. I didn't say anything about the history of each band, their big hits, when they first recorded, where they got their start etc etc etc.

Dude, you are so lame it's weird.

[monosylab1k]

And Pinkerton, tbh. Late 90's/early 00's was prob my favorite.

The existence of Creed, Limp Bizkit, Korn, NSYNC, Puddle of Mudd, Slipknot, Backstreet Boys, etc negates anything good about late 90's music. Easily the worst era of music ever.

[Avante]

King Crimson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Crimson

[redzero]

^ Good. Maybe now you can memorize some of their song titles.

[Avante]

^ Good. Maybe now you can memorize some of their song titles.

I can't tell you all of Tom Waits song titles and I have have all his CD's except his latest. I have all the Beatles stuff, can't name all those song titles. Tons and tons of Bob Dylan can't tell you all those song titles.

You are an idiot!

[redzero]

:lol I like how you are trying to turn "you should know the title of at least ONE song by a band" to "you should know ALL the song titles of a band."

When all else fails, resort to strawmen.

[redzero]

dp

[Proxy]

The existence of Creed, Limp Bizkit, Korn, NSYNC, Puddle of Mudd, Slipknot, Backstreet Boys, etc negates anything good about late 90's music. Easily the worst era of music ever.

Why? The existence of the mainstream variations in every era shouldn't be detrimental to the real musicians just because they existed at the same time. There will always be shitty music because there will always be casual listeners and people with bad taste.

[BlackSwordsMan]

When tupac and layne staley died good music died too

[Avante]

:lol I like how you are trying to turn "you should know the title of at least ONE song by a band" to "you should know ALL the song titles of a band."

When all else fails, resort to strawmen.

Give it up stupid, just listing bands that were great in that period in time. If you weren't so fucking dense you'd know that. What a fucking idiot:rolleyes

[redzero]

How would you know that King Crimson was great, stupid? You can't even remember a song by them.

:lol trying to put words in my mouth

[BlackSwordsMan]

Why? The existence of the mainstream variations in every era shouldn't be detrimental to the real musicians just because they existed at the same time. There will always be shitty music because there will always be casual listeners and people with bad taste.

mono doesn't know there has been at least one justin beiber in every era of music

[BlackSwordsMan]

How would you know that King Crimson was great, stupid? You can't even remember a song by them.

:lol trying to put words in my mouth

How about YOU NAME ONE SONG??!?!?

I got this avante don't worry

[Avante]

How about YOU NAME ONE SONG??!?!?

I got this avante don't worry

Trust me bro, I'm not worried. I've already took the punk to school.

[BlackSwordsMan]

And the cost of books at avante college is through the fucking roof.

[Avante]

And the cost of books at avante college is through the fucking roof.

This redzero freak is one of those who does nothing but follow others around bitching. Now add he's stupid and it's no too cool.

[redzero]

Trust me bro, I'm not worried. I've already took the punk to school.

At least I'm not using strawmen like you.

[redzero]

This redzero freak is one of those who does nothing but follow others around bitching. Now add he's stupid and it's no too cool.

Another lie by you.

[Avante]

At least I'm not using strawmen like you.

You don't do nothing at all. Don't you ever have a thougt all your very own you'd like to share? To follow others around looking like a dumbass is fun?

I have at least 20 books on the black experience here in America, true or false?

[redzero]

I do share my opinion, dumbass.

How many times are you going to keep lying?

And :lol double negative.

[HeatChamps]

King Crimson? Sucks
Pink Floyd? Sucks
Led Zeppelin? Sucks
The real music is Eminem, Dr. Dre, Lil' Wayne... Will the real slim shady please stand up. Please stand up. Please. I wasn't clear before. Fuck the late 60's/early 70's bullshit. ;)

[HeatChamps]

King Crimson? Sucks
Pink Floyd? Sucks
Led Zeppelin? Sucks
The real music is Eminem, Dr. Dre, Lil' Wayne... Will the real slim shady please stand up. Please stand up. Please. I wasn't clear before. Fuck the late 60's/early 70's bullshit. ;)

[Avante]

I do share my opinion, dumbass.

How many times are you going to keep lying?

And :lol double negative.

You follow everyone else around dumbass. Do you start threads with something all your very own, nope! Why is that?

Remember what happened the last time you called me a liar....right?

So tell me little man how come you follow us around?

[redzero]

Stop trying to change your argument. You first claimed that I don't share my own opinions (false), and now you are claiming that I don't start threads (also false). Pick an argument and stick to it, stupid.

And I called you a liar because you lied several times in this thread. Stop lying and I will stop calling you a liar.

[monosylab1k]

Why? The existence of the mainstream variations in every era shouldn't be detrimental to the real musicians just because they existed at the same time. There will always be shitty music because there will always be casual listeners and people with bad taste.

Yeah your opinions in this thread fucking blow. "theres good and bad music in every era" - yeah, no fuckng shit. You miss the point completely with your overeager desire to share your hipster music cred to us all in hopes we'll e-handjob you for having such great taste in music. Your posts in this thread are even faggier than the Avante/redzero 69-session.

[monosylab1k]

King Crimson? Sucks
Pink Floyd? Sucks
Led Zeppelin? Sucks
The real music is Eminem, Dr. Dre, Lil' Wayne... Will the real slim shady please stand up. Please stand up. Please. I wasn't clear before. Fuck the late 60's/early 70's bullshit. ;)

Sup lakaluva

[redzero]

What Proxy posted was true though, regardless of how you feel about his taste in music.

Every era has shitty music. There were plenty of bad bands in 1969 compared to 1999. People forget about all the bad music because fads like Boy Bands and Nu Metal come and go, while other the great music is recognized for years to come.

[Proxy]

Yeah your opinions in this thread fucking blow. "theres good and bad music in every era" - yeah, no fuckng shit. You miss the point completely with your overeager desire to share your hipster music cred to us all in hopes we'll e-handjob you for having such great taste in music. Your posts in this thread are even faggier than the Avante/redzero 69-session.

:rolleyes

Don't get pissed just because your dumbass remark about music required an elementary level rebuttal.

[lakerhaterade]

Yeah your opinions in this thread fucking blow. "theres good and bad music in every era" - yeah, no fuckng shit. You miss the point completely with your overeager desire to share your hipster music cred to us all in hopes we'll e-handjob you for having such great taste in music. Your posts in this thread are even faggier than the Avante/redzero 69-session.

:lmao

[monosylab1k]

What Proxy posted was true though, regardless of how you feel about his taste in music.

Every era has shitty music. There were plenty of bad bands in 1969 compared to 1999. People forget about all the bad music because fads like Boy Bands and Nu Metal come and go, while other the great music is recognized for years to come.

The point is that yes, we all understand ever era of music has some good and some crap, that's why there's a debate. What's the point of the thread if some dickwipe is gonna just say "there's good and bad in ever era" anytime someone posts an opinion?

[monosylab1k]

:rolleyes

Don't get pissed just because your dumbass remark about music required an elementary level rebuttal.

Don't get pissed that you can't understand the point of an internet forum.

[Avante]

Stop trying to change your argument. You first claimed that I don't share my own opinions (false), and now you are claiming that I don't start threads (also false). Pick an argument and stick to it, stupid.

And I called you a liar because you lied several times in this thread. Stop lying and I will stop calling you a liar.

I thought you had enought common sense stupid to know I was talkng you not starting threads. OBVIOUSLY...OBVIOUSLY...you share your opinions just not new opinions in threads originated by you. I assumed that was understood, I shoud have known better, like Ive told you many times your comphrehension skills totally suck. Things have to be drawn out for you.

Where have you ever started a thread here?

[Avante]

King Crimson? Sucks
Pink Floyd? Sucks
Led Zeppelin? Sucks
The real music is Eminem, Dr. Dre, Lil' Wayne... Will the real slim shady please stand up. Please stand up. Please. I wasn't clear before. Fuck the late 60's/early 70's bullshit. ;)

Post some video by those you mentioned and I will destroy it will something 60's/70's.

[Landon Donofag]

Yeah your opinions in this thread fucking blow. "theres good and bad music in every era" - yeah, no fuckng shit. You miss the point completely with your overeager desire to share your hipster music cred to us all in hopes we'll e-handjob you for having such great taste in music. Your posts in this thread are even faggier than the Avante/redzero 69-session.

http://i.minus.com/ib27y2ZezBXvP3.gif

[Avante]

What Proxy posted was true though, regardless of how you feel about his taste in music.

Every era has shitty music. There were plenty of bad bands in 1969 compared to 1999. People forget about all the bad music because fads like Boy Bands and Nu Metal come and go, while other the great music is recognized for years to come.


So what bands rival..

The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Bob Dylan
Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd

[Jeff Leppard]

Just a sec . . . Lemme go log into one of my trolls so I can come back in here and deep throat my own cock and balls.

[Proxy]

The point is that yes, we all understand ever era of music has some good and some crap, that's why there's a debate. What's the point of the thread if some dickwipe is gonna just say "there's good and bad in ever era" anytime someone posts an opinion?

You aren't educated on the subject. It's easy to sit there with a thumb up your ass, ridiculing each era by pointing out shitty bands that play on the radio.

If we all understand every era of music has good and bad music, then what point were you trying to make? It's annoying when someone feels such a need to have their voice heard that they talk out of their ass. Maybe I come off as pretentious to you, but at least I know what I'm talking about.

[Avante]

You aren't educated on the subject. It's easy to sit there with a thumb up your ass, ridiculing each era by pointing out shitty bands that play on the radio.

If we all understand every era of music has good and bad music, then what point were you trying to make? It's annoying when someone feels such a need to have their voice heard that they talk out of their ass. Maybe I come off as pretentious to you, but at least I know what I'm talking about.

How old are you?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

you're acting like you know a lot about music yet don't understand why Bjork and Grizzly Bear would be on the list.
He knows enough that starting off a "greatest artists of my generation" list with an Icelandic whale is pretty fucking hilarious.

[Proxy]

So what bands rival..

The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Bob Dylan
Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd

Radiohead
Mike Patton
Bjork
The Roots
Sonic Youth
Boards of Canada

You could condense your list to The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd. Those three alone cover any argument you're trying to make... they are the three greatest in terms of influence in my mind.

The difference in these eras is their marketability. The bands I just listed... you only ever hear half of OK Computer from Radiohead and Teenage Riot for Sonic Youth on a blue moon. You hear the classic rock bands 24/7 even to this day. I think that makes a huge difference on the perception of music eras.

I had one goal when I decided to participate in this conversation and it was bring light to the fact that today's music doesn't 'suck.' You just have to look for it since the radio chooses the catchy song over the good song. That's the only point I was wanting to ever make. I really could give two shits about anyone's personal taste.

[Proxy]

He knows enough that starting off a "greatest artists of my generation" list with an Icelandic whale is pretty fucking hilarious.

Don't say that... she's a really nice person

but seriously... she is the greatest experimental musician

[Avante]

Radiohead
Mike Patton
Bjork
The Roots
Sonic Youth
Boards of Canada

You could condense your list to The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd. Those three alone cover any argument you're trying to make... they are the three greatest in terms of influence in my mind.

The difference in these eras is their marketability. The bands I just listed... you only ever hear half of OK Computer from Radiohead and Teenage Riot for Sonic Youth on a blue moon. You hear the classic rock bands 24/7 even to this day. I think that makes a huge difference on the perception of music eras.

I had one goal when I decided to participate in this conversation and it was bring light to the fact that today's music doesn't 'suck.' You just have to look for it since the radio chooses the catchy song over the good song. That's the only point I was wanting to ever make. I really could give two shits about anyone's personal taste.

I have prewar blues, classic oldies, rock & roll, R&B, soul, country & western and tons of it. Big up on Bob Marley, Tom Waits, The White Strips, The Black Keys. Been listening to everything since the late 50's. The stuff we hear today is not on the same level compared to what we heard once upon a time.

I'll ask again, how old are you?

[ohmwrecker]

Radiohead
Mike Patton
Bjork
The Roots
Sonic Youth
Boards of Canada

You could condense your list to The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd. Those three alone cover any argument you're trying to make... they are the three greatest in terms of influence in my mind.

With the possible exception of Sonic Youth, that list is :lol

And if it wasn't for Bob Dylan, The Beatles, and everyone else for that matter, would have been playing shit like I wanna hold your hand yeah, yeah, yeah the remainder of their incredibly short and unspectacular careers.

[Avante]

It's pushin' 2am in the morning it's just you a candle and some incense. You pour a beer into a frosty mug kick back and...

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Ain't no teeny booper bullshit going stack up.

[redzero]

like Ive told you many times your comphrehension skills totally suck. Things have to be drawn out for you.

Uh, no, my comprehension skills don't suck. 99.9% of people would take "you never post your opinions about things" as "you never post your opinions about things." My comprehension skills don't suck. YOU suck at getting your point across. You make stupid posts, then magically expect people to know what you are talking about. Post what you mean, moron.


Where have you ever started a thread here?

Use the search function, retard. I've started plenty of threads.


With the possible exception of Sonic Youth, that list is :lol

And if it wasn't for Bob Dylan, The Beatles, and everyone else for that matter, would have been playing shit like I wanna hold your hand yeah, yeah, yeah the remainder of their incredibly short and unspectacular careers.

The Beatles did more in 10 years than most bands could ever hope to do. How is their career unspectacular?

[Proxy]

I have prewar blues, classic oldies, rock & roll, R&B, soul, country & western and tons of it. Big up on Bob Marley, Tom Waits, The White Strips, The Black Keys. Been listening to everything since the late 50's. The stuff we hear today is not on the same level compared to what we heard once upon a time.

I'll ask again, how old are you?

I asked you earlier and you said you had only listened to a dozen of the bands I listed and now you're shitting out an opinion on them. That's laughable.

[HarlemWelch37]

I had one goal when I decided to participate in this conversation

Yeah that's obvious to all of us. To make an endless supply of lists showing off your musical tastes for everyone to admire. I'm not sure just how hard you came after so vigorously masturbating to your own music acumen, but I'd suggest buying a new keyboard regardless.

[Proxy]

With the possible exception of Sonic Youth, that list is :lol Give us your opinions on Sonic Youth, Radiohead, The Roots, Bjork, and Boards of Canada.


And if it wasn't for Bob Dylan, The Beatles, and everyone else for that matter, would have been playing shit like I wanna hold your hand yeah, yeah, yeah the remainder of their incredibly short and unspectacular careers.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Are you drunk? You start off by saying the Beatles are responsible for today's music... then you turn around and call their own song shit and that they all had short careers.

[Proxy]

Yeah that's obvious to all of us. To make an endless supply of lists showing off your musical tastes for everyone to admire. I'm not sure just how hard you came after so vigorously masturbating to your own music acumen, but I'd suggest buying a new keyboard regardless.

That's your opinion I guess.. I've only made lists in response to Avante's lists

[redzero]

He's saying that Bob Dylan was responsible for The Beatles being what they were.

[The Driver]

He's saying that Bob Dylan was responsible for The Beatles being what they were.

....................funny sig.

[ohmwrecker]

Give us your opinions on Sonic Youth, Radiohead, The Roots, Bjork, and Boards of Canada.

OK . . . , but it doesn't matter because music preferences are subjective.

I think Sonic Youth is the most influential of the bands mentioned. I also really digg the majority of their music. Radiohead has put out some truly great music, but also have a lot of over-indulgent, boring shit. The Roots are a great band, but I don't see them as influential, or even that original, tbh. Bjork and Boards of Canada bore the fuck out of me.

However, none of these bands are in the same ballpark, influentially speaking with The Beatles, Stones or Dylan. Shit not even Neil Young, Velvet Underground or the Stooges.


I have no idea what you're trying to say. Are you drunk? You start off by saying the Beatles are responsible for today's music... then you turn around and call their own song shit and that they all had short careers.

I think you have me confused with somebody else here. I never said any such thing about the Beatles. You said, the condensed list should be Beatles, Stones, Floyd . . . My point was, that you can't leave Dylan out because he influenced everyone and was a game changer as far as what the lyrical depth of a pop song could contain. He opened the door for all those bands to start writing songs with substance. And, no I'm not drunk.

[ohmwrecker]

He's saying that Bob Dylan was responsible for The Beatles being what they were.

Sort of. Not Exactly.


The Beatles did more in 10 years than most bands could ever hope to do. How is their career unspectacular?

What I mean is, without Dylan's influence, the Beatles songwriting, more than likely, would not have made the quantum leap that it did. They weren't exactly writing songs like Norwegian Wood from the get go. Of course, the Beatles and the Stones influenced Dylan to plug in and play rock, so it's works both ways. Like Brian Wilson and the Beatles trying to one up each other sonically and symphonically.

[Avante]

Uh, no, my comprehension skills don't suck. 99.9% of people would take "you never post your opinions about things" as "you never post your opinions about things." My comprehension skills don't suck. YOU suck at getting your point across. You make stupid posts, then magically expect people to know what you are talking about. Post what you mean, moron.



Use the search function, retard. I've started plenty of threads.



The Beatles did more in 10 years than most bands could ever hope to do. How is their career unspectacular?

You never pick up on the obvious little one. How many times have you gave me your opinion, well? So I'm going to say.....dude:rolleyes You really didn't pick up on what I was saying? You really are a moron. No comprehension skills at all.

When was the last time you did anything here but bitch?

[Avante]

So many great tunes from that 60-70 era.

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[Proxy]

I think Sonic Youth is the most influential of the bands mentioned. I also really digg the majority of their music. Radiohead has put out some truly great music, but also have a lot of over-indulgent, boring shit. The Roots are a great band, but I don't see them as influential, or even that original, tbh. Bjork and Boards of Canada bore the fuck out of me.

However, none of these bands are in the same ballpark, influentially speaking with The Beatles, Stones or Dylan. Shit not even Neil Young, Velvet Underground or the Stooges.

Yeah I agree... I don't think bands will ever reach the level of influence as any of the bands you mentioned in reality or in how they're perceived by the world. Influential artists were marketable back then and they aren't now. Like... I think Andrew Bird, Grizzly Bear, and Animal Collective are all taking steps to really push the boundaries like a lot of the bands in the 60s/70s we've listed were, but there's no way you'll hear their stuff on the radio.

Even Radiohead is already over the hump. Their recent albums have become stagnate in comparison to their good stuff... but I do enjoy their more ambient music.


The Root's recent album was interesting... I feel like they're more perfecting hip-hop than attempting to revolutionizing it... so yeah, I agree with your ciriticism. I want to say the best/my favorite hip-hop albums come from things Dan the Automator produces. Handsome Boy Modeling School and Deltron 3030 are just amazing in my eyes. Those collaboration hip-hop albums do it the most for me. Blockhead too.

I'll disagree with you on Boards of Canada. The entire IDM genre pretty much came about due to their existence. A lot of my favorite bands claim them as their inspiration.


I think you have me confused with somebody else here. I never said any such thing about the Beatles. You said, the condensed list should be Beatles, Stones, Floyd . . . My point was, that you can't leave Dylan out because he influenced everyone and was a game changer as far as what the lyrical depth of a pop song could contain. He opened the door for all those bands to start writing songs with substance. And, no I'm not drunk.

Sorry. I misunderstood. I see what you're saying. You're right. I never really thought about it that way... Beatles and Dylan bouncing off each other. Makes sense.

[leemajors]

I was under the assumption Aphex Twin and the Orb had a lot more to do with IDM's development than Boards of Canada.

[CuckingFunt]

My personal taste is better and more accurate than everyone else's personal tastes.

[symple19]

:lol

[da_suns_fan]

Im pretty sure "call me maybe" pretty much seals the current era as the worst in the history of time.

[HeatChamps]

Always a great song here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0

[HeatChamps]

Always a great song here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0

[Avante]

My personal taste is better and more accurate than everyone else's personal tastes.

Let's look at that.

You live on a ranch in Montana. The local radio played country and western and oldies, Drifters, Coasters, Olympics, Ricky Nelson etc. Mom and dad have some records...Andy Williams, Perry Como, Dione Warwick type stuff. You leave home for a college in San Frabcisco at 19.

You meet Cindy there.

Cindy was raised in Memphis Tennessee, she grew up listening to jazz from New Orleans, primitive blues from Mississippi/Alabama/Texas/Memphis. She listened to Zydeco music and reggae music from Jamaica, she heard a lot of stuff from Nashville. Mom and dad had a lot of old records, Charlie Feathers, Jellyroll Morton, Bessie Smith, Billie Holiday etc.

While you have your personel opinion concerning music, do you really have an educated mind, do you know enought about music to compare with what Cindy has experienced?

You read only westerns, while you might have your favorite western writer what do you know about literature?

[CuckingFunt]

Let's look at that.

You live on a ranch in Montana. The local radio played country and western and oldies, Drifters, Coasters, Olympics, Ricky Nelson etc. Mom and dad have some records...Andy Williams, Perry Como, Dione Warwick type stuff. You leave home for a college in San Frabcisco at 19.

You meet Cindy there.

Cindy was raised in Memphis Tennessee, she grew up listening to jazz from New Orleans, primitive blues from Mississippi/Alabama/Texas/Memphis. She listened to Zydeco music and reggae music from Jamaica, she heard a lot of stuff from Nashville. Mom and dad had a lot of old records, Charlie Feathers, Jellyroll Morton, Bessie Smith, Billie Holiday etc.

While you have your personel opinion concerning music, do you really have an educated mind, do you know enought about music to compare with what Cindy has experienced?

You read only westerns, while you might have your favorite western writer what do you know about literature?

"The worst era" implies judgment and hierarchical ranking. Not historical knowledge. You can never argue that someone is wrong about what they like, because they've already established for themselves that they like it.

Arguing otherwise means that either you don't understand the parameters of the thread, or that you think your knowledge and/or personal tastes supersedes that of others. Neither would surprise me, based on your posting history.

My personal feeling is that every era has included a ton of music that I've loved and found to be genuinely important, and a ton of music that is vapid and/or grating. If someone doesn't like the sound of music made before the digital age or they have a particular dislike for the sound of a large band, for example, then they may judge the 1930s to be the worst era of music, and no matter what you or I or anyone else says about Cab Calloway or the Boswell Sisters is going to make their opinion the wrong one because it is a judgment based entirely upon personal taste.

[Avante]

"The worst era" implies judgment and hierarchical ranking. Not historical knowledge. You can never argue that someone is wrong about what they like, because they've already established for themselves that they like it.

Arguing otherwise means that either you don't understand the parameters of the thread, or that you think your knowledge and/or personal tastes supersedes that of others. Neither would surprise me, based on your posting history.

My personal feeling is that every era has included a ton of music that I've loved and found to be genuinely important, and a ton of music that is vapid and/or grating. If someone doesn't like the sound of music made before the digital age or they have a particular dislike for the sound of a large band, for example, then they may judge the 1930s to be the worst era of music, and no matter what you or I or anyone else says about Cab Calloway or the Boswell Sisters is going to make their opinion the wrong one because it is a judgment based entirely upon personal taste.

You missed the point.

I'm talking about knowing music so you can have an educated opinion. If all you ever listen to is punk or soul or piano blues or female artists or blind artists etc etc you don't know enought to really have an opinion. You need to widen those horizons, so you can have an opinion based on a lot of music. You read three authors only, how you going to have a legit opinion concerning literature?

[tlongII]

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