Cuban says Kidd wont have jersey retired [Archive]

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 10:44 AM

Was listening to a great Cuban interview on 103.3 ESPN (Ben & Skin)Dallas some highlights:

1. Cuban: I'm angry with JKidd and right now he would not have his jersey placed in the rafters. Kidd had already told him the morning that he was coming back to Dallas. And that when he changed his mind he felt let down by Jason. He went as far as to say that Derek Harper will get his jersey first and he is 50/50 on Harper.

2. Says Tyson would of never been signed for Damp's expiring if his deal was not expiring the following year.

3. Says there was plenty of debate on DWilliams before they made him plan A in Free agency. Once they went forward they were dissapointed, but Cuban thinks that a Dirk/Dwill pairing would of been limited because they could not add another star with the salary Deron would of commanded. Cubes says he feels part of the reason he chose Brooklyn, was williams knew that too. Says though he was not able be at the sales pitch for Dwill he was texting the whole time. He also says that this team Dirk/OJ/DC could be better than they would be with Williams

4. Says he did confront Lamar, in front of the team before his realease ...but he (nor Lamar) never discussed salary. There was rumors floating around about the tone of that discussion

5. Says one of his regrets was firing his team psychatrist per Avery's request before the 67 win season. He feels they win the title that year.

6. Says that he had an agreement in principle (with Dr. Buss) to bring Kobe to Dallas that did NOT include Dirk. Says that Mitch convincing Kobe he would right the ship was the reason why the trade never was completed.

7. He says he is glad that Dirk finally got his "taste" in women in order. And that his reception was amazing. They rented out a warehouse in Fairpark.

A couple observations. He can be an ass, but I love Cuban as an owner. How many owners would be so open about so many subjects? I still think he made a mistake not defending his title, but what a salesman. At the very least if you are a Mavs fan that the franchise is in good hands. I know there arent that many Mav fans here anymore, but a great interview would recommend listening to the podcast for ANY NBA fan. Im sure some of it was spin and sales but very interesting and entertaining. after this and his smack of Skip Bayless Cuban has definitely moved up some notches.

djohn2oo8

08-21-2012, 11:00 AM

Buss might have literally been killed in the streets if he traded Kobe without getting Dirk.

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 11:13 AM

Nice thanks for posting.

I can't believe he had a trade in place to bring Kobe to Dallas :wow. That would have been nasty to have Kobe with Dirk. Mitch saves the day apparently (but you never know what they would have gotten back - but safe to assume they would have fallen on tough times).

Him being mad at JKidd is a joke. There is nothing set in stone and if anyone should be mad, it should be his players because he blew up a championship team for no reason.

This interview confirms a few things:

1) Triple D Dynasty was never a possibility. The Mavs never had the money to add two players like Dwill & Dwight. Anyone who said otherwise was wrong and for whatever reason chose to ignore that fact. Cubes saying they can be better off with Collison/OJ may be correct, but comes off as trying to sell a ketchup popsicle.

2) The main reason they traded for Tyson was because he was an expiring contract. This goes in line with what I thought - it was purely accidental that he fit so well and that they ended up keeping him. It was a smart move obviously because it extended their trade asset & he could come off the books if they couldn't move him. Plus, if he actually worked out basketball-wise...well we all saw how that ended.

Not surprising that he confronted Lamar - there were a lot of rumors about that so you knew something was going on (if him being sent home didn't tell you).

TheRealCB

08-21-2012, 11:47 AM

6. Says that he had an agreement in principle (with Dr. Buss) to bring Kobe to Dallas that did NOT include Dirk. Says that Mitch convincing Kobe he would right the ship was the reason why the trade never was completed.

A small part of me died right now.

cd98

08-21-2012, 12:00 PM

Jason Kidd was a shell of himself in Dallas. To retire his number would be to overstate his value to the Mavs championship.

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 12:00 PM

I cant believe how much we agree on certain things, here despite our battles from time to time ...I thnk we have some things in common.

1. I agree whole-heartedly on the sales job. Ben & Skin said they had been begging for weeks (they joked as though it was cuban begging) for Mark to explain why he did what he did and how he felt now that the 3D was dead. I give them credit even as Mavs homers they asked point blank if the Mavs plan and/or if the CBA failed to achieve it's objectives. Of course he said no they did not fail because they stuck to their plan of flexibilty and getting younger. Obviously the guy is VERY successful at making money and he is smart. I just think he outsmarted himself. Take guts to stick to a plan that will be unpopular ...but a title shot is so rare NO ONE not even a billionaire salesman will convince me they made the right choice.

2. Triple D I think was possible in theory only because they would of moved some more contracts and pitched taking a little less if BOTH guys would of agreed. Problem is (though I love Dallas) you take a little less for Miami, NY or L.A. no one (Mega star) has shown a willingness to do that for Dallas yet. So until they do ... tough to envision a triple D type scenario panning out. Dwill is from here (The Colony) and he did not come.

3. As far as Kidd of course he can be upset, just like the fans were at the break-up. He said he had gotten Kidd's verbal agreement that morning, took his kids to a museum. He said Kidd called to tell him (he assumes he let the call go to voicemail) he rescinded ...but he felt that Kidd was wrong. Cuban is a business man, plenty get upset when verbal agreements are broken, but you are right that does happen and Cuban knows it.

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 12:05 PM

Even if they moved contracts (because by that logic, Cuban could have moved those same contracts if he signed Dwill to what he commanded and added to Dirk/Dwill - Cuban clearly states it was not possible to give Dwill what he wanted and add to that), they still couldn't do Dwight/Deron.

Anything is "possible", but it was so far fetched due to the amount of work it would take to not only dump their contracts, but they would have had to sold Dwight/Deron on taking a lot less. Not just a little, a lot. So while it was "techincally possible" for them to do it, it's also technically possible for me to make the Spurs as the starting point guard. Just not likely at all :lol

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 12:24 PM

Richard Simmons

08-21-2012, 01:19 PM

Jason Kidd was a shell of himself in Dallas. To retire his number would be to overstate his value to the Mavs championship.

agreed, they would've lucked out on a championship that last year with him or devin harris at the reigns. i don't believe he made a world of difference and i still stand and say that the kidd/harris trade was an idiotic move

monosylab1k

08-21-2012, 01:25 PM

I know there arent that many Mav fans here anymore

ROFL as opposed to all those loyal Lakers fans that jumped ship here after the past 2 seasons?

HeatChamps

08-21-2012, 01:32 PM

Cuban is a rich fucking asshole. Nothing new here.

baseline bum

08-21-2012, 01:35 PM

WTF was Kupchack about to trade Bryant for? Devin Harris and Josh Howard? That would have been comedy, but Kobe would have been a great sidekick for Dirk.

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 01:36 PM

ROFL as opposed to all those loyal Lakers fans that jumped ship here after the past 2 seasons?

Easy, there Mono ...that was NOT a knock :lol. And I never left so why use that in response to me? I give your crews credit, you guys left when you were on top. Cully and I did not get it ... you guys hardly stayed around to gloat much after the win tbh ... pretty classy if you ask me. It was a Mavs focused interview I was just trying to share it because I think non Mavs fans could enjoy it, I did ...

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 01:39 PM

WTF was Kupchack about to trade Bryant for? Devin Harris and Josh Howard? That would have been comedy, but Kobe would have been a great sidekick for Dirk.

He never gave details on players except that Dirk was not involved, because they asked. When I was in L.A. rumors were it was a 3 team deal. I forget the rumored deal but Bulls were also trying to put one togther as well and maybe I have it mixed up.

But Im so glad Mitch is our GM, owners even great ones like Buss can make some dumb decisions ...

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 01:40 PM

Kobe side-kick to dirk ...:lmao

dirk4mvp

08-21-2012, 02:27 PM

Kobe coming to Dallas with Dirk still remaining isn't anything new actually.

Venti Quattro

08-21-2012, 02:30 PM

In other news, Jason Terry thinks his Mavs jersey should be retired (http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/mavs/2012/08/terry-hopes-his-mavs-jersey-will-be-retired.html).

djohn2oo8

08-21-2012, 02:34 PM

Kobe side-kick to dirk ...:lmao

I do think Dirk would have deferred to Kobe, but let's not act as if Kobe has never been a side kick to a big.

baseline bum

08-21-2012, 02:38 PM

In other news, Jason Terry thinks his Mavs jersey should be retired (http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/mavs/2012/08/terry-hopes-his-mavs-jersey-will-be-retired.html).

It probably should, as he was an enormous part of them winning the west in 06 and the title in 11. Outside of Nowitzki, he's the person you think most of when talking about the Dallas Mavericks: even more than Mark Aguirre, Rolando Blackman, Derek Harper, etc.

Venti Quattro

08-21-2012, 02:44 PM

I do think Dirk would have deferred to Kobe, but let's not act as if Kobe has never been a side kick to a big.
:lmao Kobe being a side-kick to a big man

Bitch please

djohn2oo8

08-21-2012, 02:48 PM

:lmao Kobe being a side-kick to a big man

Bitch please

Numbers dont lie dawg.

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 02:54 PM

Kobe coming to Dallas with Dirk still remaining isn't anything new actually.

Never said it was new. I heard PLENTY of rumors, never heard that a deal was struck. In fact, the La media was playing it as though a deal with the Bulls for Deng was the direction we we were leaning. In fact, part of what was being reported (remember Kobe had trade veto) was that Bryant would agree to go to the Bulls but did not think Chicago minus Deng was much better than the first-round fodder team he was leaving.

so for me, hearing Cuban and Buss had agreed to terms was enlightening. If i listened to the Dallas media Lebron, Dwight and Dwill would of all been Lakers at one point or another and you would of pulled off all those deals holding on to Dirk.

baseline bum

08-21-2012, 02:55 PM

I think venti was just referring to the time Kobe tried to take over against Detroit instead of feeding Shaq. It was more like Kobe's attitude of 'fuk my bigman, clown'.

Venti Quattro

08-21-2012, 02:58 PM

Kobe was like "why do I need to feed Shaq more, he's already fat"

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 03:12 PM

Kobe's play in the 2004 Finals was pretty ridiculous. I dont pretend to know why he did what he did, he had A lot going on with the trial, Karl Malone hitting on his wife, the Shaq feud and the media shit storm. What I saw as Lakers fan who has seen at LEAST 75% of his games is he took the Tayshaun is a "Kobe stopper" way too personal. He was defended by a dude with a 7 foot wing span but still hoisting fall-away 20 footers. I dont deny being a kobe fan (but my team comes first) But when he takes things like that personal, he loses sight of how much he hates to lose and what is best for his team. The guy is an amazing player top 5 of guys I HAVE seen ...but he makes things too hard on himself.

Shaq did have a great series, but was a shitty leader from the first day of camp. PJ also deserves blame for letting their feud spiral out of control. 2003 and 2004 were some of the most talented but are two of the Laker teams I hate the most. Kobe, shaq and to a lessor degree Phil ruined that season.

Side note: Phil did a horrible job of encompassing GP to the team. He did not adjust the triangle enough and stayed loyal to Fisher undermining Payton as a leader. No one mentions that.

Reck

08-21-2012, 03:18 PM

Shouldn't the Nets be the one retiring Kidd's Jersey? He did plenty for that team and was with them the longest.

TheRealCB

08-21-2012, 03:27 PM

mavs>spurs

08-21-2012, 03:37 PM

Kidd has lived off of his reputation longer than anyone i've ever seen. He was pretty much useless on offense outside of a spot up shooter during his time in dallas. I'm not denying that he played a key role during the championship run with his 3 point shooting and defense, but so did everyone that year. Everything had to fall just right in order for us to win. Now I disagree with Cuban, I think he should be retired but half in part because of his first run in Dallas when he was a star player, and only partially because of these last few.

And terry should be retired because without him we don't have a ring, nor do we make it to the finals in 2006. Terry's game 6 against miami in 11 got us the ring, if you remember Dirk played horribly that game. We lose that, and I don't like our chances in a game 7 in Miami with Miami having momentum.

Killakobe81

08-21-2012, 03:46 PM

I think JET has a very strong case. Wouldnt say he is a shoo-in. Kidd may or not be deserving but Cuban has the right to leave him out if he wishes, and it wouldnt be a travesty. Nets should DEFINITELY put him in though ...

TheRealCB

08-21-2012, 04:12 PM

FkLA

08-21-2012, 04:26 PM

Jet is definitely a lock. I hate the little fucker but no way he doesnt get his number retired.

dirk4mvp

08-21-2012, 05:00 PM

:lol JET is a stone cold lock for jersey retirement, especially if some franchises award such a prestigious honor to lesser players like Avery Johnson.

Venti Quattro

08-21-2012, 05:05 PM

:lol JET is a stone cold lock for jersey retirement, especially if some franchises award such a prestigious honor to lesser players like Avery Johnson.
:lmao Bruce Bowen

HarlemWelch37

08-21-2012, 05:08 PM

tbh I don't think he did enough wearing 5 to warrant jersey retirement, nor what he did wearing 2. Let the Nets retire his jersey.

#41 Shoot Em Up

08-21-2012, 05:50 PM

Cubes very adamant about a Deron Williams signing hurting the Mavs for the next couple years. Going to war with all the money tied up in Deron/Dirk/Marion def. wouldn't of put the Mavs in the best position going forward.

mavs>spurs

08-21-2012, 05:57 PM

Can't wait for marion's and dirk's contracts to expire, then bring back dirk on that home team discount and a revamped roster.

#41 Shoot Em Up

08-21-2012, 05:59 PM

Can't wait for marion's and dirk's contracts to expire, then bring back dirk on that home team discount and a revamped roster.

True. Hopefully Collison and Mayo show they have what it takes to be the backcourt of the future here. Cuban was really endorsing that idea

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 06:49 PM

If they show anything good, they are either going to get paid by the Mavs (eats that cap space up) or they will be let go and paid by someone else (a la Tyson Chandler).

FkLA

08-21-2012, 06:59 PM

Whatever happened to that one guy on the Mavs that had Nashs shot, Parkers speed, and Roses athleticism and finishing ability ?

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 07:02 PM

What I don't get is this flexibility talk. Dirk is not playing forever - you have to put together a team sooner than later because once Dirk goes, it could be tough times ahead obviously.

monosylab1k

08-21-2012, 07:14 PM

Whatever happened to that one guy on the Mavs that had Nashs shot, Parkers speed, and Roses athleticism and finishing ability ?

He went as limp as your dick sans shemale porn.

Trainwreck2100

08-21-2012, 07:19 PM

:lmao Bruce Bowen

3 rings faggot

Latarian Milton

08-21-2012, 07:40 PM

there're plenty of room beneath the ACC's roof so why not retire their jerseys? its not like they have won multiple championships (like 4) tbh

DMC

08-21-2012, 07:42 PM

Cuban's had the "in the works" excuse for years. The list of "in the works" players over the years would be a fucking All Star team.

No one wants to play in Texas. Texas is a football state.

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 07:44 PM

But but but who wouldn't want to play for a butthurt owner who cries if you leave and one that blows up a championship team for no reason!?

DMC

08-21-2012, 08:02 PM

But but but who wouldn't want to play for a butthurt owner who cries if you leave and one that blows up a championship team for no reason!?
No competition related reason. He got his fix at a hefty price and now he's in rehab. It doesn't matter how Mav fan tries to spin it, that team could have made it back to the Finals. He wasn't willing to do what LA is doing.

DMC

08-21-2012, 08:05 PM

I wouldn't retire anyone who decided on their own to leave.

Clipper Nation

08-21-2012, 08:12 PM

Ridiculous that he's that pissed at Kidd for leaving after Cuban blew up a championship team for no reason....

#41 Shoot Em Up

08-21-2012, 08:29 PM

Cuban's had the "in the works" excuse for years. The list of "in the works" players over the years would be a fucking All Star team.

No one wants to play in Texas. Texas is a football state.

Are you really still posting??

#41 Shoot Em Up

08-21-2012, 08:30 PM

He went as limp as your dick sans shemale porn.

:lol

mavs>spurs

08-21-2012, 08:48 PM

Damn cuban is stupid, Kidd leaving saved him from making a mistake. Why would you want to sign a 39 year old to a 3 year deal?

#41 Shoot Em Up

08-21-2012, 09:11 PM

No doubt that 3/$9 million deal was a mistake that Kidd saved Cuban from. It could of hampered our chances for Kaman or Mayo

08-21-2012, 09:21 PM

No doubt that 3/$9 million deal was a mistake that Kidd saved Cuban from. It could of hampered our chances for Kaman or Mayo

crofl posting pretty much exactly what m>s said

tbh it's surprising you can sit down long enough to post that with his man sauce always leaking out of your colon imho

#41 Shoot Em Up

08-21-2012, 11:18 PM

crofl posting pretty much exactly what m>s said

tbh it's surprising you can sit down long enough to post that with his man sauce always leaking out of your colon imho

:wakeup

Jacob1983

08-21-2012, 11:45 PM

Cuban's being a huge asshole about this shit. Move the fuck on. It's your own fault for gutting the championship in the hopes of getting overrated Howard and DWill.

Jason Kidd, JET, Dirk, Nash, Finley, and all of the players on the 2011 championship team deserve to have their jerseys retired at the AAC.

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 11:51 PM

The wierdest thing of all is that Cuban admitted that getting both was not a possibility and that they had "serious" reservations about pairing Dwill with Dirk (he was their target). So with that in mind, why the hell would you blow up a championship team? If you could never get both & had reservations about the one you wanted, why on Earth do you make that decision - makes very little sense.

mavs>spurs

08-21-2012, 11:53 PM

Well obviously they didn't feel too hot about their chances at a repeat and felt that tying up all that money in kidd/jet/tyson to keep everyone happy would have crippled us financially for years to come. It's not that hard to figure out why they did it, whether or not you agree with it is a different issue.

DPG21920

08-21-2012, 11:57 PM

mavs>spurs

08-22-2012, 12:27 AM

It is hard to figure out why they did it - what good is not being crippled financially for a few years if you can't do anything with it? Dirk is aging. You have limited time as a legit contender. You had a team that just won, were going into a lockout/short season where chemistry puts you ahead of the curve and you aren't confident about pairing the guy you want the most with your current star.

Just having one year contracts all the time and the promises that flexibility brings means nothing at this point due to the above. It's no wonder he was able to sell Mav fans on Triple D Dynasty even though he just admitted there was zero chance of that happening.

Had they resigned all those guys they still wouldn't have a legitimate shot at a championship by this point. 1 year deals wouldn't work because Kidd and Terry both wanted multiyear deals. Tyson scoffed us and felt insulted because we didn't want to include him in our long term plans. He was due for his last big payday. Even Barea got paid. You couldn't have kept that team together with just 1 year deals.

TheRealCB

08-22-2012, 01:02 AM

Had they resigned all those guys they still wouldn't have a legitimate shot at a championship by this point. 1 year deals wouldn't work because Kidd and Terry both wanted multiyear deals. Tyson scoffed us and felt insulted because we didn't want to include him in our long term plans. He was due for his last big payday. Even Barea got paid. You couldn't have kept that team together with just 1 year deals.

Read DPG's post again.

Juggity

08-22-2012, 01:30 AM

and his smack of Skip Bayless Cuban has definitely moved up some notches.

I dunno, I think Skip definitely had the upper hand in that argument. Cuban came off as too confrontational (precisely what he was trying to pin on Skip) and seemed to have trouble expressing his points. If there's one thing Skip is good at, regardless of the actual nature of his viewpoints, it is his ability to say in no uncertain terms exactly what he means to say.

To be fair, Cuban is not a television commentator by trade. Bayless was bound to outclass him in that respect.

mavs>spurs

08-22-2012, 01:52 AM

Read DPG's post again.

I see, I tend to skim his posts sometimes.

Yeah 1 year deals isn't the solution but it does buy time to find a real one. There obviously isn't anything they can do right now to contend for a championship, Dirk aging or not. All they can do is wait for the right opportunity, personally I think resigning all those guys would have been a mistake because in all likelihood we'd still be right here with only 1 ring. Except we'd have money tied up in guys you can't really build around.

jjktkk

08-22-2012, 02:22 AM

I see, I tend to skim his posts sometimes.

Yeah 1 year deals isn't the solution but it does buy time to find a real one. There obviously isn't anything they can do right now to contend for a championship, Dirk aging or not. All they can do is wait for the right opportunity, personally I think resigning all those guys would have been a mistake because in all likelihood we'd still be right here with only 1 ring. Except we'd have money tied up in guys you can't really build around.

Your probably right, but its a slap in the face to the team and its fans, that Cuban did not give Dirk a legit chance to defend the ship.

FkLA

08-22-2012, 03:29 AM

You still give it a shot tbh, even if the championship was fluky and the chances of repeating were low. Especially since Cuban had a history of giving big, long-term deals to scrubs like Erica and Brenda. Chandler shouldve been re-signed, even if it didnt work out he wouldnt have been unmovable like the other two scrubs...there wouldnt have been a shortage of teams interested in trading for him. Cuban fucked up plain and simple.

TDMVPDPOY

08-22-2012, 05:21 AM

cuban made the right choice, fck them sour grapes...

Koolaid_Man

08-22-2012, 06:41 AM

cuban made the right choice, fck them sour grapes...

Cubes is smoking det Kiesha again if he beleives Kobe would ever play for him.....Buss would have a never traded him to a conference rival plain and simple...as Buss said before if he traded Kobe it would have to almost be for someone's whole team...Kobe earns our organization about 75 million a year according to Buss...

this all I have to say to Cubes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgxlPfSr-0&feature=related

TheRealCB

08-22-2012, 08:46 AM

I dunno, I think Skip definitely had the upper hand in that argument. Cuban came off as too confrontational (precisely what he was trying to pin on Skip) and seemed to have trouble expressing his points. If there's one thing Skip is good at, regardless of the actual nature of his viewpoints, it is his ability to say in no uncertain terms exactly what he means to say.

To be fair, Cuban is not a television commentator by trade. Bayless was bound to outclass him in that respect.
:lolCubes destroyed Bayless and sent him to the tree of woe

DPG21920

08-22-2012, 08:47 AM

Well the good news for Mav fans is that Cuban didn't do what most owners do which is panic. He made his decision & at least stuck with it (worst case scenario would have been to say you're going the flexibility route, then overpay mediocre FA's when you whiffed on DWill). He managed to put together a pretty damn good team (*potentially) on all short term deals. He may have lucked into a PG too that could be very effective and not cost as much as a DWill so he can spend the majority of his money elsewhere.

So they are not in a terrible spot going forward, just one that they shouldn't have been in. That Bynum trade and Dwight trade really hurt Dallas though IMO.

There is still potentially a great FA class next season, but things change fast.

Killakobe81

08-22-2012, 09:16 AM

Good points, DPG. Worst thing to do is to spend just because you have cap space. Or overpay your own guys PRIMARILY based on loyalty (Cough Luke Walton Cough).
I think they have a solid playoff team with a top 4/5 (West) ceiling. Still doubt a top tier FA signs here in big"D" but we shall see. It's a good city with decent cost of living and very affordable housing (relative) especially in the market (Highland Park, Prosper, Frisco) where the affluent live. Those places are expensive but reasonable especially compared to Manhattan, South Beach, New Port Beach and Bel Aire etc. Plus, no state income taxes. The summers here suck ...and as someone pointed out it's still Cowboys country even though the Rangers and Mavs have had more plyoff success the past 5 years than my Boys have in the last 15.

Killakobe81

08-22-2012, 09:24 AM

TheRealCB

08-22-2012, 09:34 AM

None of what I said or DPG did before me mitigates the mistake Cuban made. I do think considering he won 2 years ago should buy him some leeway. My only issue is that titles are so rare and the chemistry it takes to get one (he also mentioned how important it was to the 2011 squad and that no one knows how the Nets or Lakers will mesh) ...he HAD it. Season was short... he should of rolled the dice on at LEAST Tyson. He could of moved the surrounding pieces. I think Dirk NEEDED Tyson's intensity ...Dirk seemed to lose some fire ...and it makes sense they pretty much swapped Tyson for Lamar. I ent love Odom but consistent intensity is not his specialty.
Well,he executed his plan the best way you could.After he let Tyson go,what he did was the best possible for the team.

BUT,that doesn't make his decision right.I still thing that with Tyson and Barea back (the others could be replaced by similar players) meant repeat.Seriously,people seem to forget how we destroyed the Lakers and the 4-1 against the Thunder.Yes,the Heat series could go either way(esp games 2-3-4),but the finals were a near lock.

The real question is,if you don't repeat in 11-12,what happens in 13 when the Lakers do what they did?? We wouldn't even have a MLE to work with or anything to improve.

Koolaid_Man

08-22-2012, 09:44 AM

Well,he executed his plan the best way you could.After he let Tyson go,what he did was the best possible for the team.

BUT,that doesn't make his decision right.I still thing that with Tyson and Barea back (the others could be replaced by similar players) meant repeat.Seriously,people seem to forget how we destroyed the Lakers and the 4-1 against the Thunder.Yes,the Heat series could go either way(esp games 2-3-4),but the finals were a near lock.

The real question is,if you don't repeat in 11-12,what happens in 13 when the Lakers do what they did?? We wouldn't even have a MLE to work with or anything to improve.

Why why why are u clowns even talking bout the Mavs they're irrlevant...more Laker talk please...Mavs are now bottom feeders...cease and desist.