AGon, Beckett, Crawford, Punto to the Dodgers

[TheMACHINE]

wowza...thats a lot of money if it happens

[monosylab1k]

I wonder if the Dodgers will follow their crosstown brethren and fall right off a cliff after making a supposed blockbuster deal :lol

[Reck]

Gonzales is the only one doing something for the Red Sox.

They should have traded Becket a year ago.

Who are the Red Sox getting if this happens?

[TheMACHINE]

I wonder if the Dodgers will follow their crosstown brethren and fall right off a cliff after making a supposed blockbuster deal :lol

that or follow thier fellow NL champs, the Giants and the Cardinals, and win it all.

[Reck]

Red Sox would get Rubby De La Rosa and James Looney and 3 unnamed prospects.

:lol

The Red Sox organization simply does not know how to make transactions. Its like they dont have a sense for the future. lol

[crc21209]

Gonzales is the only one doing something for the Red Sox.

They should have traded Becket a year ago.

Who are the Red Sox getting if this happens?

Crap pretty much...

"Pitcher Rubby De La Rosa will be headed back to Boston as the centerpiece of the deal, sources say. De La Rosa made his first major league appearance of the season Wednesday, having had Tommy John surgery about 13 months ago. Also included are first baseman James Loney and prospects Ivan De Jesus (infielder) and Jerry Sands (outfielder), according to sources, plus another top prospect that is still unknown."

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8300112/adrian-gonzalez-carl-crawford-josh-beckett-nearing-boston-red-sox-exit-sources-say

That other top prospect better be Zach Lee or Webster from the Dodgers, or else this trade completely sucks. Getting De La Rosa who is just coming off Tommy John surgery as the main piece of a trade isnt exactly smart. I'm fine with the Sox getting rid of Beckett, Crawford, and Punto, but not A-Gon. Who's going to play 1st base? Mauro fucking Gomez? James crap Loney? No thanks. As far as I'm concerned the Dodgers can take anyone off the Sox roster except Pedroia and Gonzalez....

[Wild Cobra Kai]

It's a clubhouse lawyer clearout, tbh. Valentine's biggest problems are Gonzales and Beckett. If they get a "top prospect" as rumored and don't have to send any, or at least not too much money to pay Crawford, it's a win.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Crap pretty much...

"Pitcher Rubby De La Rosa will be headed back to Boston as the centerpiece of the deal, sources say. De La Rosa made his first major league appearance of the season Wednesday, having had Tommy John surgery about 13 months ago. Also included are first baseman James Loney and prospects Ivan De Jesus (infielder) and Jerry Sands (outfielder), according to sources, plus another top prospect that is still unknown."

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8300112/adrian-gonzalez-carl-crawford-josh-beckett-nearing-boston-red-sox-exit-sources-say

That other top prospect better be Zach Lee or Webster from the Dodgers, or else this trade completely sucks. Getting De La Rosa who is just coming off Tommy John surgery as the main piece of a trade isnt exactly smart. I'm fine with the Sox getting rid of Beckett, Crawford, and Punto, but not A-Gon. Who's going to play 1st base? Mauro fucking Gomez? James crap Loney? No thanks. As far as I'm concerned the Dodgers can take anyone off the Sox roster except Pedroia and Gonzalez....

Webster is the reported PTBNL. He didn't clear waivers (and wouldn't) so he'll go whenever non-waiver trades are opened again.

[symple19]

that or follow thier fellow NL champs, the Giants and the Cardinals, and win it all.

Can't speak for the Cards, but the Giants did it in a mostly organic way

even with a prime Becket (not even close to a sure thing), SF pitching > Dodgers pitching

And the Giants will have big $$$ to spend themselves this winter...and even more once Zito's shitty contract is up after next year

:lol trying to buy their way past the Giants

:lol swept

[Lincoln]

Hoping zach Lee makes it in the big leagues. He went to the HS across town and would always kill us in football in the crosstown showdowns. He was a pretty good QB.

[ginobili's bald spot]

De La Rosa is a beast and future #1 starter fyi.

[ducks]

so the dodgers are trying to buy their championship just like the lakers and getting way up their on their payroll
and the new cba tells small market teams can not give draft picks bonuses so they will sign with you
a joke

[Clipper Nation]

If the Dodgers were really trying to buy a championship, why on Earth would they squander their money on Beckett and Crawford?

[ducks]

they have to take beckett in order to get gonzo

[ducks]

this move to me tells me their manager for boston will be back next year and then when hsi contract is up he he gone

[symple19]

If the Dodgers were really trying to buy a championship, why on Earth would they squander their money on Beckett and Crawford?

ask their front office

The Giants repeatedly turned big time trade offers down when people wanted Matt Cain, Lincecum, Bumgarner

That's how they won a championship

All are guys who came up through their system

Gonzo is a pimp, but the rest of those guys have probably already seen their best days. LA woulda been better off keeping those prospects, imo

[symple19]

this move to me tells me their manager for boston will be back next year

mos def

A clear statement by the BoSox front office that they support their manager. Even if the trade doesn't go through.

hell, they may have never even meant to trade anyone, and instead just used the rumors to send a message to the whiners in the clubhouse

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Red Sox would get Rubby De La Rosa and James Looney and 3 unnamed prospects.

:lol

The Red Sox organization simply does not know how to make transactions. Its like they dont have a sense for the future. lol
If the proposed trade goes down, idk why you think it's such a bad deal. They dump their 3 highest paid players when 2 of them were completely useless and get a host of prospects back. They're a rebuilding team and this is the type of trade a rebuilding team makes.

[Reck]

If the proposed trade goes down, idk why you think it's such a bad deal. They dump their 3 highest paid players when 2 of them were completely useless and get a host of prospects back. They're a rebuilding team and this is the type of trade a rebuilding team makes.

I'm more pissed with Gonzales getting shipped.

It honestly cant get any worse for the Red Sox so we'll just have to wait and see.

This deal, however doesn't exactly make them top seriously contenders at the moment.

Next year will be interesting to see what they do with all that freed up money.

[TheMACHINE]

Hooray! 5.23 era/5 wins-11 loses and a guy with one working elbow....woot!! Haha

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm surprised Beckett didn't veto it. He's already been a huge cancer for Boston the last 2 years, vetoing it woulda really cemented everything he's done to get the Red Sox where they are.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

This deal, however doesn't exactly make them top seriously contenders at the moment.
They weren't close to serious contenders before this deal. They're a rebuilding team whether they wanna acknowledge it or not.

[symple19]

Boston just raped you LA...how does it feel?

:lmao

[JMarkJohns]

Not sure what to make of this trade. Beckett is shit, but Crawford can be a plus OF/leadoff hitter and Gonzalez can rake, but they are completely going all in with this deal. They have given up two of their better young players in de la Rosa and Webster and still have shit for pitching. Kemp, Ethier, Gonzalez, Ramirez is a solid 3-6, but they need pitching now to keep up with the Giants and pitching later to keep up with the Diamondbacks. This robs them of this need.

They lose nothing but paid money immediately, but short-term says they are around their CAP limit, and long term they have invested in an older team with several of its blue-chip prospects now elsewhere.

[LnGrrrR]

Good trade... Boston hitting the reset button. Hopefully they'll be smarter when they hand out contacts to the next big thing.

[Reck]

I'm surprised Beckett didn't veto it. He's already been a huge cancer for Boston the last 2 years, vetoing it woulda really cemented everything he's done to get the Red Sox where they are.

Is the least that faggot can do for Boston after giving them absolutely nothing but headaches.

Now Valentine needs to hit the road also.

A manager that changes the lineup every day doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

[LnGrrrR]

I certainly would be happy to see V go, but I'm pretty sure he'll get one more year to prove himself. They sent out the headaches/headcases, so he's got no excuse next year.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Is the least that faggot can do for Boston after giving them absolutely nothing but headaches.


I was surprised he didn't take the opportunity to give Boston another headache :lol

This is a great deal imo. Lets say the Red Sox were a fire sale team and looking to trade A-Gon, A-Gon for De La Rosa and Webster straight up would have been the type of deal you'd expect, but they managed to throw Crawford and Beckett in too. Dice-Chink's contract comes off the books too once the season is over.

They shouldn't be in any hurry to spend money. There isn't gonna be a quick fix to rebuild. If Ortiz wants a trade to a contender he should get it.

[Reck]

There isn't gonna be a quick fix to rebuild. If Ortiz wants a trade to a contender he should get it.


Yeah I dont think Ortiz even wants to be back in Boston at this point.

They just dont seem to want to give him more than 1 year deal. He deserves more.

Sadly this is a business. Wherever he's going I hope he ends up on a stack team.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

I'm surprised Beckett didn't veto it. He's already been a huge cancer for Boston the last 2 years, vetoing it woulda really cemented everything he's done to get the Red Sox where they are.

I think I heard that LA claimed both Beckett and Gonzales off waivers, leading to the negotiation of this deal. If he made it collapse, Boston may have just let the waiver claim go through, and maybe he knew that.

[ginobili's bald spot]

3 run HR in his first at bat for Gonzalez. We staaaacked

[ducks]

Colorado 10, LA Dodgers 0 nice piching becket

[Reck]

Colorado 10, LA Dodgers 0 nice piching becket

How many innnings did it take for him to give 3+ runs and how long did this piece of shit last?

[ducks]

first batter he gave a homerun

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Of all people Dice-Chink actually pitched well for Boston today :lol

[BUMP]

THAT sushibreath imho

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:cry great fuckin tsunami :cry

[Reck]

first batter he gave a homerun

:lol Beckett Ritual. :lol

[TheMACHINE]

Red sox looking like the winners more and more.

[symple19]

lol getting owned by zito

[JMarkJohns]

You can't just buy and buy... They need to focus on pitching with every cent they spend going forward. I hope they overpay and steal away some overrated pitchers out of desperation, losing early rounds picks as compensation to further cement their short-term sacrifice failures.

[symple19]

You can't just buy and buy... They need to focus on pitching with every cent they spend going forward. I hope they overpay and steal away some overrated pitchers out of desperation, losing early rounds picks as compensation to further cement their short-term sacrifice failures.

Indeed. If the Orioles/Rays can somehow take the East then there could be a lot of big spending teams staying home.

phillies/dodgers/Angels/RedSox/Tigers/Mets

That's pretty much a list of the teams with the highest payrolls

[ducks]

kersaw needs hip surgery
chad needs tommy john surgery
how much are they going to through on starting fa pitchers?